FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l521/ndemars18/Silent_Hill_Downpour_Cover-1.jpg :::THE WRITTEN PORTION IS NOW DONE AND READY TO USE ON RELEASE DAY::: Its going to be some what difficult to write this guide in order, seeing as a lot of the puzzles and things you need to find are tied in with one another, but for the most part each section lists the items and quests in the order youll find them in the game. I might make a couple separate threads for the side quests and endings so alls you have to do is switch between tabs instead of searching for it all on one page. I probably wont be writing the achievement guide, so whoever decides to make it is more than welcome to use any of my guides Collectables The only one Im going to be listing in this section is the Mysteries collectable, since most are not associated with any side quests and are found consistently. This also includes the 3 Poem Fragments for that achievement. Collectables needed for a side quest can be found in the side quest section. **Note that the maps that you pick up does not count towards this achievement, unless its under the Mysteries tab in your book. So dont sweat it if you miss them. It doesnt happen too often but if you pick up a collectable and die before the game saves, you have to go and re pick up that item. Shouldnt be too hard to figure out since you can just look in your journal Mysteries Mystery name - area - location Devils Pit Flyer - Devils Pitstop - In the diners service area on a table near the kitchen door Voyeurs Notes - Devils Pitstop - In the diners basement, on a coffee table Newspaper Article (Accident) - Devils Pit - In the deep mines, posted on the storage room door Poem - Devils Pit - In the train station, posted on a hanging body Police Report - Hillside - In the police station, on the floor east of the entrance Crime Survey - Hillside - In the police station, on the floor past the barricade door Crime Scene Photo (2) - Hillside - In the southeast corner of the police station yard Missing Poster - Hillside - Outside of the basement, on the ground near the sandbox Crime Scene Photo (1) -Hillside - On the balcony leading to pearl creek, attached to a barrel Threatening Letter - Pearl Creek - In the apartment building, posted on a third floor door Mothers Note - Pearl Creek - At the northwest corner of Lansdale Ave and Brite St (requires the "Ribbons" side quest) Newspaper Article (Riot) - Pearl Creek - Near the east end of Brite St, on the southern sidewalk Addressed Envelope - Pearl Creek - Near the outside of the storage unit, at the north edge of Laymond Ave Gallery Letter (1) - Pearl Creek - In the art gallery, on the office sofa Gallery Owners Note - Pearl Creek - In the art gallery, on the office desk Gallery Letter (2) - Pearl Creek - In the art gallery, on the counter in the exhibit room Memorandum - Centennial Building - In the Centennial Buildings garage entrance, posted on the door Internal Memorandum - Centennial Building - In the Centennial Buildings garage, in the police cars passenger seat Incident Report - Centennial Building - In the library, on a desk hidden between the first floor stacks Envelope Sketch - Centennial Building - Awarded for properly arranging the envelopes in room 105 Psychologists Flyer - Centennial Building - In room 204, on the desk near the transition room to room 305 Psychologists Report - Centennial Building - In room 200, in a drawer near the north wall Employee Review - Centennial Building - In the vault, hidden in the pages of one the books Film Splicing Guidlines - Chastain Heights - In the movie theater, posted on the projector rooms wall Newspaper Article (Abductions) - Chastain Heights - In the small park west of the movie theater, just north of a dig spot Newspaper Article (Napier) - Chastain Heights - In the monasterys yard, on the ground near the fountain Mothers Confession - Chastain Heights - In the locked apartment on Lamon St. (at the end of the "Ribbons" sidequest) Poem Fragment 1- St. Marias Monastery - In the monastery chapel, on the altar Letter Home - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage, on the teachers desk in the first floor classroom Technicians Notes - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage, on a small desk in the theaters control room Poem Fragment 2 - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage theater, in the trunk within the cottage Fathers Day Card - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage second floor, on an end table in the dormitory Psychologists Evaluation (1) - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage, on a library table west of the second floor classroom Psychologists Evalutation (2) - St. Marias Monastery - In the orphanage, in the drawers in the office just north of the playroom Condolence Letter - St. Marias Monastery - In the hospice, on a table in the recreational area Internal Memo - St. Marias Monastery - In the hospice, on a small table just inside the x-ray room Psychologists Evaluation (3) - St. Marias Monastery - In the hospice, inside the drawers in the small office near the x-ray room Poem Fragment 3 - St. Marias Monastery - In the hospice, inside one of the x-ray room Screamers Newspaper Article (Corruption) - Pleasant River - Along the north edge of Rice st, on a wooden porch near the parked van Inscribed Snapshot - Pleasant River - In the house north of Rice st, on a table in the first floor room Funeral Announcement - Pleasant River - In the house north of Rice st, on the bed in the mater bedroom Psychiatric Evaluation - Port District - In the house west of the drawbridge, on the floor near the broken mirror (after completing the "Mirror Mirror" side quest) Handwritten Note - Overlook Penitentiary - Appears on level A4, near the Northwest stairwell Psychological Evaluation (Overlook) - Overlook Penitentiary - In the A2 level of the guard tower, on the desk near the safe Prisoners Letter (1) - Overlook Penitentiary - In a cell along the east edge of level A2, behind a shelf unit Angry Letter - Overlook Penitentiary - Through a cell along the west edge of level A2, at the end of the leveled corridor BOLO Alert - Overlook Penitentiary - On level A3, in a drawer in the security room Magazine Article - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, in a checkout room locker Prisoners Letter (2) - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, in a cell on the south side of the main hall Prisoners Letter (3) - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, in a small room north of the workshops Work Release Program Application - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, on the drill press in the northern workshop Newspaper Headline - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, at the edge of a table in the day rooms upper level Whistleblowers Letter - Overlook Penitentiary - In block B, near the lockers in the day rooms upper level Side Quests A complete guide to all the side quests in the game can be found here Pre-Order Codes NOTE: Once you enter a code, you will be stuck with those items, even when you start any new games. 911977 - Gives you rifle and golf club 353479 - Gives you a Pistol 45 and a baseball bat. 171678 - Gives you nail gun and a special axe. They can be used at: Entrance of Silent Hill after the Devil's Pit (room where you crawl through the hole to get to Hillside) House with Basement on Campbell St. Pearl Creek Subway (off Laymond Ave.) Edited April 2, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Puzzle Solutions I will be doing this by area and see how it goes with that format. If your stuck on main story progression or have any questions, post here All videos and pictures are made and uploaded by me and CrispyVictim Devils Pitstop Diner Safe (Contents: Loaded Colt handgun) While your chosen puzzle difficulty affects the behavior of the safes dials, all difficulties share the same code (26381) and starting dial position (42416) Easy: Turn dial 2 left one click Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 2 left three clicks. Dials 2 and 4 are now in position Turn dial 1 right two clicks Turn dial 3 right one click Turn dial 5 left three clicks Normal: Turn dial 2 right one click Turn dial 3 left two clicks Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 2 right three clicks. All trick dials are now in position Turn dial 1 right two clicks Turn dial 5 left three clicks Hard: Turn dial 2 right two clicks Turn dial 3 left three clicks Turn dial 2 right three clicks. Dials 2 and 3 are now in position Turn dial 4 right one click Turn dial 5 right five clicks. Dials 4 and 5 are now in position Turn dial 1 left three clicks Ticket Machine (Prize: Free ticket, which is needed for main story progression) To beat the Jail Break game, you must place three colored balls into the corresponding holes at the top of the machine. Each time you release a ball, the chamber fills with water. As it does, steer the floating ball around the obstacles and into the machine hole. If the ball falls into a trap, it returns to its starting position. Simply release the ball to make another attempt. The number of traps varies from between puzzle difficulties, but the objective is always the same **the audio on my videos always becomes unsnycd when I upload them to youtube so just turn the volume off** [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvVq0L4kuM]Silent Hill Downpour Jail Break game - YouTube[/ame] Devils Pit Water Wheels (Upper Caverns) (Allows you to access previously flooded cavern to find first aid + pistol ammo) (Allows elevator to be used for main story progression) Easy -Use the valve on the left to move the first trough forward (turn the valve left three times) -Use the valve in the center to lower the second trough into position (turn the valve left two times) -Use the valve on the right to move the third trough just far enough to catch the water (turn the valve once to the left) While the pumps are active, retrieve the first aid kit and pistol bullets from the flooded cave Return to the water wheels. Use the valve on the right to divert the water onto the wheel directly in front of you (turn the valve once more to the left). The lift is now active Normal The normal solution is pretty much the same as the easy solution, except that when you shift the water away from the first wheel, a large door slams behind you, blocking your way back downstairs. So to save you trouble: -BEFORE TOUCHING THE VALVES, on your way to the valves, at the top of the stairs youll see a wooden crate. Slide that crate in between the large wooden doorway. This will prevent the door from completely closing shut when you adjust the valves Hard - Move to the top of the stairs, before getting to the valves, and drag the crate into position under the wooden door - Use the valve in the center center to lower the second trough into position (turn the valve left two times) - Use the valve on the left to move the first trough forward (turn the valve left three times) - Use the valve on the right to move the third trough just far enough to catch the water (turn the valve once to the left) - While the pumped are active, retrieve the first aid kid and bullets from the flooded cave - Return to the valves. Use the valve on the right to divert the water to the wheel directly in front of you (turn the left valve once more to the left). The lift is now active **the audio on my videos always becomes unsnycd when I upload them to youtube so just turn the volume off** [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifxUAGHmhY]Silent Hill Downpour Water Wheels puzzle solution - YouTube[/ame] Devils Pit Train Station Controls (Allows the train to be used; needed for main story progression) Press the buttons in the corresponding order: Easy Press the red button (marked E) Press the blue button (marked A) Press the orange button (marked C) Normal Press the blue button ( marked A) Press the green button (marked B) Press the gray button (marked D) Press the orange button (marked C) Hard Press the gray button (marked D) Press the red button (marked E) Press the green button (marked B) Press the blue button (marked A) [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A_hTIIFzF8]Silent Hill Downpour Devils Pit train station controls - YouTube[/ame] Hillside Dispatchers Radio (Hillside Police Station) (Part of side quest "All Points Bulletin") In order for this side quest to appear in your journal, youll need to walk around the streets until a patrol car "runs" into you. After that, approach the police station from the north (from McCammon St) and squeeze through the hole in the wall. Proceed to cross the beam and go into the dispatchers office. Activate the dispatch radio and input the following: D375 C466 B557 A648 Pearl Creek Stolen Goods (Pearls Creek apartments) (Associated with "Stolen Goods" side quest) Solution the same for all difficulties: The Locket and Gold watch both belong on the third floor, across the hall from the apartment with the stolen goods. Find the table near the kitchen appliances and place the Locket in the case. Find the desk in the bedroom and place the Gold watch on the display hand The Money Box belongs on the second floor, in the apartment across the hall from the Hillside transition. Place the box in the childs bedroom next to the scattered coins on the nightstand The War Medal goes in the ground floor apartment, in the case on the bedroom nightstand. Once youve placed the last item, the quest is complete. If you choose to, return to the original apartment with the goods to find some new clothes. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GYF6kroBlA]Silent Hill Downpour Stolen Goods guide - YouTube[/ame] The Bank (Pearl Creek Bank) (Associated with "The Bank" side quest) Not so much a puzzle as it is surviving waves of enemies. Each time you clear out a group of enemies, one the of the banks deposit boxes will open. When this happens, you only have a short amount of time to claim your reward and then return to the ground floor before the next wave arrives. Waves: (same for all difficulties) Defeat one screamer to open a safety deposit box containing a first aide Defeat two screamers to open a safety deposit box containing pistol bullets Defeat one screamer and one brawler to open a safety box containing a Colt hand gun Defeat two brawlers to open a safety deposit box containing pistol bullets Defeat one screamer, one stabber, and one brawler to open a deposit box containing three first aide kits. After the last one, the alarm stops and the quest is complete. Make your way back to the safety deposit boxes to get the rest of the items Edited March 16, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Storage Unit Keypad (Narrow alley north of the Pearl Creek underground entrance) The code is 827 Inside you will find various items including a painting to pick up (discussed further in side quest section) Centennial Building Office Envelopes (Room 105; must have ID card from room 104 to enter) You must arrange the six envelopes on the desk to reveal a number. Easy : Three of the envelopes are already in place Normal : One of the envelopes are already in place Hard : None of the envelopes are in place The final code will always be 851136 Use this code to unlock the door blocking the second floor offices Vault Door (2nd floor in the beginning area) In order to unlock the vault door, you need to collect the projector slides from the mayors desk, in room 200. Then you must play them on the projector in the video archive room on the 2nd floor and figure out the combination to the vault. The combination for all difficulties is IX-VI-I Chastain Heights Projection Room Keypad (Theater room; needed to access the last film reel) (Associated with "Cinema Virte" side quest) After you locate the three film reels, you need to figure out the code. The code is 9241 St. Marias Monastery Cue Lights (Theater) Your chosen puzzle difficulty affects the number of legible tags and the content of the technicians notes. The action indicated by the cue light, however, is the same for all three puzzles: Flip the switch near the ladder to turn off the house lights Turn the gramophones crank to play the opening music Activate the spotlight and aim the beam at the center of the stage Activate the winch left of the spotlight to drop the first set into place Activate the winch right of the spotlight to drop the second set into place Spin the wooden cylinder to produce a rain effect Strike the hanging sheet metal to produce a thunder effect X-Ray Machine (Hospice) To determine which of the screamers has the items you need, use the x-ray machine to scan each of the bodies. Roll a gurney into position, then activate the control panel to begin the scan. If the monitor indicate a clean x-ray, move the next screamer into the machine and repeat. When the monitor display a foreign object, when that screamer out and inspect it. Follow the on screen instructions to search the chest cavity. The closer you are to the objects, the more agitated the screamer becomes. Once youve located the item, grab it to trigger a cut scene. If youve succeeded, you automatically receive a key and poem fragment 3 (if youve collected the other two poem fragments, an achievement should unlock) Pleasant River Pleasant River Safe (Two story house near the docks) (Contains a Colt handgun) While your chosen puzzle difficulty affects the behavior of the safes dials, all difficulties share the same code (16814) and starting dial position (42416) Easy: Turn dial 1 right three clicks Turn dial 2 left four clicks Turn dial 3 left four clicks Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 5 right two clicks Normal: Turn dial 1 right three clicks Turn dial 2 left four clicks. This also spins dial 3 into position Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 5 right two clicks Hard: Turn dial 2 left four clicks Turn dial 5 right two clicks Turn dial 3 right one click Turn dial 1 right one click Overlook Penitentiary Guard Tower Safe While your chosen puzzle difficulty affects the behavior of the safes dials, all difficulties share the same code (11725) and starting dial position (42416) Easy: Turn dial 1 right three clicks Turn dial 2 right one clicks Turn dial 3 left three clicks Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 5 left four clicks Normal: Turn dial 3 right two clicks Turn dial 2 right one clicks. Dials 2 and 3 are in position. Turn dial 4 left two clicks Turn dial 5 left four clicks Turn dial 1 right three clicks Hard: Turn dial 3 right twoclicks Turn dial 2 right one clicks Turn dial 4 right one click Turn dial 5 right right clicks Turn dial 1 left one click Workshop Keypad Easy: 2345 Normal/Hard: 22345 Edited April 2, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Endings As you play through the story, some of your actions and choices affect a secret score. Although you cant see the score, choosing the appropriate actions will ensure that you receive the desired result. You start of with a score of 0. The choices you make during combat and special cut scenes will raise or lower this number: - Sparing incapacitated enemies raises your score - Killing incapacitated enemies lowers your score - Attempting to save Cunningham at the ravine raises your score - Leaving Cunningham at the ravine lowers your score - Attempting to console JP Sater in Devils Pit raises your score - Taunting JP will lower your score Once you complete the finale, your total score determines which ending you get. There are a total of six endings, five for achievements; four regular and one special. The regular ones are: "Forgiveness" To get this ending, spare Cunningham with a total score above 0 (make all good choices) "Truth and Justice" To get this ending, spare Cunningham with a total score below 0 (make all bad choices) "Full Circle" To get this ending, kill Cunningham with a total score above 0 (make all good choices) "Execution" To get this ending, kill Cunningham with a total score below 0 (make all bad choices) The two special ones are: "Reversal" (not for an achievement) To get this ending, you must die during the final fight "Surprise!" To get this ending, you will have to have already beaten the game once. On your second playthrough, finish the side quest "Digging up the Past" and then beat the game If you kill a couple incapacitated enemies on your good play through doesn't necessarily mean your going to get the bad ending (you wont get the good behvior achievement though), because dialog choices you make weigh heavier than killing enemies. But dont kill every bad guy you see. And remember, you can still hit them with melee weapons, just dont hit them when there on the ground because theres a good chance theyll die after several hits. After you beat the game once, you can reload last checkpoint and get the opposite ending. So to get all the different endings, 3 full playthroughs is needed (the third is for the ending you get for completing the digging up the past side quest) Edited March 13, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderkin Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Good stuff man. Will most likely use this on my second run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Apophis Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Great work man... this guide will help me a lot, I'm playing it on "Hard" first, after that I will change to "Normal" to get all the possible endings and collectibles, as fast as possible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoborg Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanks for the early start. I will likely put this off until I can finish ME3. I hope by that time the guide will be complete. I hope you will write the achievement guide as well. Looks great so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 thanks guys. Ill do my best to get as many videos and pics up as I can. But ill def. have the written portion done by release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6soldier Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 did anybody run into alocker? there is a keypad and i dont know the code..i looked at the guide but didn't see it there...i'm in the area after i used the train ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 did anybody run into alocker? there is a keypad and i dont know the code..i looked at the guide but didn't see it there...i'm in the area after i used the train ride 171678. this was the gamestop preorder code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6soldier Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 171678. this was the gamestop preorder code thank you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken10der Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 i made the "good" choices for saving at the ravine and consoling JP then killed every single monster i ever came across in the game and still apparently had a score above 0 because i got ending C for killing cunningham, so the choices matter way more than the enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 i made the "good" choices for saving at the ravine and consoling JP then killed every single monster i ever came across in the game and still apparently had a score above 0 because i got ending C for killing cunningham, so the choices matter way more than the enemies yea the choices def weigh a lot heavier than killing. I think the only time the killing matters is if you make a good dialog choice and a bad one. then the deciding factor would be the amount of baddies you killed/knocked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComatoseCracker23 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 awesome guide, really beast to have this on release date. can't wait to dive into the game this weekend. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbx Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've got another code for your guide. The first number locked safe back in the penitentiary is 11752. It's Murphy's prisoner number which is on the back of his prison clothes. You'll get a key which unlocks a weapons drawer with a shotgun nearby, might come in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've got another code for your guide. The first number locked safe back in the penitentiary is 11752. It's Murphy's prisoner number which is on the back of his prison clothes. You'll get a key which unlocks a weapons drawer with a shotgun nearby, might come in handy. thanks man Ill try it out on my next run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoyd Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Having problem with the "Cue Lights" puzzle on St. Maria's. I'm doing what you say... first I turn off the lights... then I turn the gramaphone's crank to start the music (well.. it doesn't play any music at all, just a weird noise). Then I activate the spotlights and put them to the center of the theater... and boom, all lights are up again and I have to start all over. Also, when I try to use the right crank (set [2]) it asks me to use an item that I don't have and you don't mention, so.. what am I doing wrong?. Am I missing something?. Thanks in advance for your response. Edit, excuse my stupidism.. didn't notice there was a door nearby.. what an asshole I am. Puzzle solved. Edited March 14, 2012 by Paranoyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Having problem with the "Cue Lights" puzzle on St. Maria's. I'm doing what you say... first I turn off the lights... then I turn the gramaphone's crank to start the music (well.. it doesn't play any music at all, just a weird noise). Then I activate the spotlights and put them to the center of the theater... and boom, all lights are up again and I have to start all over. Also, when I try to use the right crank (set [2]) it asks me to use an item that I don't have and you don't mention, so.. what am I doing wrong?. Am I missing something?. Thanks in advance for your response. Whats the item it asks you for? When you perform an action correctly, the next cue light switches on. If you do it wrong, it starts over. Edited March 14, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoyd Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I was missing the vinyl record that was nearby and a lever.. that I don't have, but just gonna have to look where it is. Can't be too far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 I was missing the vinyl record that was nearby and a lever.. that I don't have, but just gonna have to look where it is. Can't be too far away. if your playing on easy or normal, the lever is on the theaters second floor. If your playing on hard, its on the first floor near the stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken10der Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 i was able to use some money from the devil's stop cash register to buy a candy bar in an alleyway vending machine - does that do anything at all? i never found a use for it in my first playthrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 i was able to use some money from the devil's stop cash register to buy a candy bar in an alleyway vending machine - does that do anything at all? i never found a use for it in my first playthrough Its for the Homeless side quest. I have it all detailed in the side quest section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken10der Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 and can i ask what happens in the "surprise!" ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaques9843 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Great guide, I've been using it to get the collectibles but I seem to have run into a problem. I'm in the vault in the centennial building and there's no collectible. I've searched every wall about 6 times now at very speeds and there is nothing. Any ideas? Can I come back here later in case it just isn't loading right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPADELPHIIA Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Great guide, I've been using it to get the collectibles but I seem to have run into a problem. I'm in the vault in the centennial building and there's no collectible. I've searched every wall about 6 times now at very speeds and there is nothing. Any ideas? Can I come back here later in case it just isn't loading right? yes you can go back to any area up until you get on the boat EDIT: fyi going back to the cent can be glitchy for some people because of that mystery note thats on the door. Some people claim they can never open in back up, they only can see the note. So my advise would be do everything while your there, just in case Edited March 15, 2012 by FLIPADELPHIIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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