Xbox360Achievements.org - RUMOR: Complete Grand Theft Auto 4 Achievement List

	Comment #1 by Motzarele Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:14:12 PM they all look pretty upfront.

	Comment #2 by Eighteen88 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:14:33 PM I hope they're real.

	Comment #3 by Punchline Kid Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:15:32 PM cant wait for the 29th

	Comment #4 by Tussell Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:17:19 PM Wow, these look lame.

	Comment #5 by Pyroman31 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:17:59 PM That last one might be a bitch to get if it isn't viral...

	Comment #6 by vI Starlight Iv Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:18:17 PM damn 100% acheivement... and y the timed one what if people want to enjoy the game

	Comment #7 by mksystem74 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:18:24 PM woooo Im not getting this game =) These achievements look boring. Makes me not regretting not pre-ordering it

	Comment #8 by Gunslinger Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:20:03 PM Hate the Rockstar one and the timed one, if they're real. The way they call everything "Special Ability" and the wording on some makes me wonder if they are, though.

	Comment #9 by StolenKyle/ Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:21:14 PM Beat the game in 30 hours hmmm,,, pretty hard. really good list though I hope this is correct.

	Comment #10 by afexracerx Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:21:29 PM My expectations definitely weren't met with these achievements, oh well. Yeah, I don't like the timed story one either, it's gonna make people rush the story mode.

	Comment #11 by SlySi1976 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:23:13 PM thx for this.. just need the 29th now

	Comment #12 by Jashole86 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:26:24 PM List looks pretty gd 2 me

	Comment #13 by Denny Crane Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:30:23 PM looks like an obese mans ass whilst he is shitting... and the shit is half way out and wont go farther, it only wiggles a little. im switching this pre-order and renting it first. i hated gta b4 i have a feeling this will suck 2.

	Comment #14 by Josef_999 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:32:34 PM Some of them could be better, but they seem simple. The timed one and killing a Rockstar developer aren't good at all.

	Comment #15 by ArmyOfPie Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:35:36 PM Looks like a good list to me.

	Comment #16 by Ecks UK Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:36:06 PM Lol Assassin's Greed, good to see the Rockstar low brow satire is still intact.

	Comment #17 by glasstiger50 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:37:02 PM Wow, what a huge disappoitment. I was expecting something epic, these are just average. They remind me of Assassin's Creed achievements, excluding the multiplayer ones.

	Comment #18 by Lukee666 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:39:08 PM good list apart from the online ones

	Comment #19 by Uncl Ad Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:40:04 PM Not a bad list but the timed one..This is the kind of game you put time into and dont want to feel rushed. Again i have mixed thoughts about this one but knowing my weekness for games im sure ill buy it.

	Comment #20 by fresh fish 101 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:44:34 PM the list is fine (if its real). get the 30 hr one ur second play through if you wanna enjoy the game. and im sure there'll be times when the developers are all online and it should be advertised via "inside xbox". calm down, everything will be fine.

	Comment #21 by l.maciver Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:48:33 PM im intrest in this lest. makes the game much more worth buying. infact, if it didnt have achievements, would people still buy it? ofcourse yes. this just makes the experiance much more...

	Comment #22 by Tricka21 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:48:53 PM Hhhhmm looks preety legit but I aint believing anything until That title RUMOUR changes to OFFICIAL or whatever the hell they write. Peace

	Comment #23 by piez Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:52:08 PM Warm Coffee! That cracked me up.

	Comment #24 by z Stolen z Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:54:24 PM After looking at the list twice. This is just like saints row :/

	Comment #25 by razzleson Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:54:45 PM Personally I think these are awesome. Don't understand why people are complaining. What did you want? And since when was GTA EVER going to be about achievements? GTA is a fucking awesome game no matter what. I'd be buying it without a doubt even if the achievements were worse that Final Fantasy's.

	Comment #26 by xX0neAndOnlyXx Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:56:27 PM I think this "Achievement List" is pretty good - not bad but not great either. Just because its GTA4 people are expecting a GREAT Achievement List but who cares if the game owns and you have fun playing it, the achievements will eventually come to you anyways. Only thing I would change would be the 30 hours time achievement, let us fully take in the environment and breathe the fresh air, but you can easily get the achievement on a second play-through so thats now much of a problem even though I like to take my time on quality games and so do a lot of other people.

	Comment #27 by Feel My Rage Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 10:56:29 PM Wow....you people obviously expected the list to be, im guessing, about 3/4 times what the Orange Box's list is?Um guys.....its ROCKSTAR.Their games are ment to be PLAYED, not to be used for Achievement/Gamerscore Whores. Also, Denny Crane, if you don't like GTA....WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU PRE-ORDER IT!?And that was also a vivid description.....do you watch yourself take dumps?Or have you just been literally shit on by a fat man?

	Comment #28 by viper565 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:01:27 PM Bomb da Base 2?!?! THANK YOU ROCKSTAR!

	Comment #29 by Exiled enigma13 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:05:13 PM GTA=Gay

	Comment #30 by Crenshaw Magee Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:08:47 PM As much as I am interested in the achievements for this game and I would be lying if there were a few I would play to unlock, I don't think this is going to be a game I play to unlock achievements as much as achievements will unlock as I play without trying.

	Comment #31 by LegitLostLegend Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:16:19 PM They look pretty easy

	Comment #32 by Mcklein Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:26:36 PM Im ok with this list...it will be interesting to see how fast people get the key to the city...

	Comment #33 by Orbitron Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:27:39 PM This list is good. I don't know why people are complaining.

	Comment #34 by Jackel2556 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:31:28 PM Wheres the kill, 10 million civilians achievement!? or the Kill 1,000 civilians with insert weapon here achievement, come on rock star I thought better of you guys! but who cares I'm getting this game for PS3 I played all the gtas on the Play stations so why not this one

	Comment #35 by Marco tulio Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:31:50 PM hope they are real

	Comment #36 by Atarii Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:32:20 PM lol @ "warm coffee". I love it!

	Comment #37 by graf1k Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:35:38 PM Most of the list is about what you'd expect based on the missions and stuff of previous GTA games which is a bit underwhelming. The one I don't like though is Liberty City Minute as I don't like the idea of having to possibly skip side missions or just rush myself period in a game like this. Half the fun of sandbox games is being able to do side missions whenever you want and this achievement would ruin that some.

	Comment #38 by Vampire Khaos Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:36:56 PM who cares about achievements i just play the games for fun

	Comment #39 by hispanicplaya Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:37:05 PM YO..SOME OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS ARE KINDA DUMB...ROCKSTAR CLEAN IT UP WITH SOME MUCH MORE FUN ONES PLEASE...I REALLLLLLY DONT CARE BOUT BLAYING DARTS OR CUBED BUT W.E....IT'S LIKE 1/2 SUCK AND HALF ARE GOOD...LETS NOT GO ALL GH 3 THO HERE AIIGHT FELLAS ;]

	Comment #40 by Ruthless Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:40:55 PM They look great, i love them, looks like it will be a hard 1k, still prefer bully's list but this is still good.

	Comment #41 by JBong6 Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:53:21 PM GTA4 is going to rule all, achievements or not! Ever since GTA3 the franchise has just gotten better and better.I'm a total achievement/completion-est(90%) whore, but this game is a must for anyone who like the GTA series, regardless of the list!

	Comment #42 by Bloodwolf Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:54:02 PM I think these are fake. :(

	Comment #43 by braddelo Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 11:57:04 PM Yeah they look pretty lame to be legit. I hope they are fake at least. Why can't they be mission based? For a game that is all missions there should be more than what, 3? Ehhhhhhhhh

	Comment #44 by Krazie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:00:07 AM @ Solid - That's why we classified them as a rumor, cause we're not 100% positive. But, they seem real, and thats why we shared them with you guys Take it with a grain of salt for now, but hopefully we'll get official word real soon for you guys.

	Comment #45 by Kotaro-Fuma Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:03:12 AM Assassins Greed... Very origional... These achievements look pretty... Average... I personally think this game shoulden't have multiplayer, it just seems wrong for this game... These could have been cooked up, like those Halo 3 ones, but I think these are legit.

	Comment #46 by McBride96 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:14:20 AM Look crap!

	Comment #47 by Bondfan626 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:18:16 AM they don't look real

	Comment #48 by xitwenty20ix Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:27:17 AM The type of achievement: "Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie" should not be in any game! And the achievement: "Warm Coffee", is just amazing. I think the achievements could be better, but they are not bad. If you don't like the achievement: "Liberty City Minute" as it will make you feel the need to rush, remember - Use a bit more memory and create another file after you have completed the story in your own time. Could this mean the main story's nearing the 30hour mark? That is longer than Oblivion's story, and I have had over 100hours on that game.

	Comment #49 by McBride96 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:27:32 AM Unlock the special ability of buying guns from a friend. GHEY and probs not real!!

	Comment #50 by Darc Apocalypse Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:31:06 AM no problems with the achievements here and completing the story in under 30 hours should be pretty simple if you just work at it

	Comment #51 by Bishop24 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:37:38 AM who cares about the achievments and what they are....i just want to play the game....i don't care what the achievments are...if i get the achievments, i get them, if i don't, i don't...but i'm buying the game for the gameplay, not for some achievments....

	Comment #52 by Krazie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:37:50 AM According to another story, the storyline could take upwards of 50 hours+. I'm guessing thats including people doing side quests and what not and not just going through the main storyline. Could be tough to do, and will definitely have to be on a second playthrough for me..

	Comment #53 by blaz2122 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:42:12 AM I'm not spoiling this for myself. Looks legit and really good. Tired of waiting.

	Comment #54 by Chud 360 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:45:08 AM these look good to me. just 1 issue. i hope the developer killing is a viral thing otherwise you need to be lucky to even play against them.

	Comment #55 by el_rezzo Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:46:04 AM I hate developer achievements. Otherwise these look pretty good.

	Comment #56 by muters Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:50:13 AM Hmmn, the list doesn't exactly blow me away, but I'm not going to be playing GTA4 for the achievements anyhow. Really hoping the multiplayer turns out to be good, it'd be a shame if they just tack it on because it's the done thing these days. Completing the story in 30 hours can't be hard, unless there's 30+ hours worth of content outside of side-missions and the like. That'd be pretty spectacular if there was. :0)

	Comment #57 by SynysterChris Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:01:02 AM looks pretty cool, and ya the developer achievements are kinda gay, but im sure its going to be a viral thing. and warm coffie lol

	Comment #58 by CrazyBowie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:02:01 AM yeah looks ace and u people above me are gay if you dont think they are good. part from timed 1

	Comment #59 by SkeetSkeet Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:03:32 AM I really hope that Warm Coffee is in there. I lol'd the first time I saw that which was yesterday. I'm surprised to see that there aren't any in the game for doing vigilantes if this is the real list.

	Comment #60 by Phool Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:09:41 AM I will fakkin hate this list if it's real. It is very similar to Bullys Achievements. Fakkin Carnival shiet. Stupid bottles. One of the most annoying achievements that I hated doing. All I'm saying is that I wish that this is not the real list. Otherwise, Bullys Achievements where okay. Not great, but okay.

	Comment #61 by mjc0961 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:14:55 AM Hahahaha, Warm Coffee. That's great. However, why the multiplayer achievements? I hate that so much. Well, except the "Kill a Rockstar dev" one. That one is pretty unique. And for everyone whining about doing the story mode in 30 hours or less, you do know that you can play the story mode as man times as you want, right? You don't have to rush on your first playthrough.

	Comment #62 by Bmorph Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:15:26 AM IDK if this could possibly be true. Warm Coffee just makes it seem like a fake list.

	Comment #63 by Reaper XBL Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:18:15 AM GTA IV is going to be great cant wait for it HURRY APR.29th

	Comment #64 by prowlerdante Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:19:50 AM About 90% of these comments are crying about these achievements. Suck it up, it's called a RUMOR for a reason. Besides, the list is doable. Stop crying.

	Comment #65 by CrazyBowie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:29:51 AM OH you guys wondering about the special ability all it is is 1 guy get 90% relation shio he will give you free guns your cousin romane get a good relation ship and he will give you free taxi rides and theres more cant be botherd writing them though have fun :)

	Comment #66 by Hammer 5O2 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:43:24 AM meh i dont like that time achievement

	Comment #67 by Zef Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:44:14 AM It's not a fake list, my hamster works for Rockstar and he told me it is real. SO there.

	Comment #68 by Kung Fu Jams Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:48:39 AM I dont think that time achievement will be that bad because i think it might mean story alone, but if it means total game time then i am fucked because i always piss about between missions doin crazy stuff involving satchel charges and superbikes XD

	Comment #69 by Dude Rain Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:57:16 AM Timed completion? Ew. I kinda hope these are fake.

	Comment #70 by James03 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 03:09:32 AM Complete the story in 30 hours? How does that sound hard? =l

	Comment #71 by JBong6 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 03:20:27 AM I don't see any comparison to the Assassins Creed achievements, those were all find the stupid flags in all the areas, beat all areas, and kill a bunch of people in different ways. These(if real) are pretty good and most definitely attainable.

	Comment #72 by DJKim0701 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 03:25:59 AM Liberty City Minute 30G Complete the story missions in less than 30 hours. I hate this one. sigh. This is a fake achievement.

	Comment #73 by dethcomesforye Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 03:33:51 AM please don't be real..

	Comment #74 by x41KNIGHT14x Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 03:58:01 AM you all have to calm the fuck down and stop complaining.

	Comment #75 by X Dboi X Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:04:29 AM Me call fake although 2 or 3 might be realistic...

	Comment #76 by white3er Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:09:34 AM looks good

	Comment #77 by GuCCi512 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:26:17 AM thats why im getting this for the ps3...because i just dont want achievements for this game. every other game cool. but this is GTA and im used to no achievements for this type of game! Play Beyond 4-29-2008 here we come gamers

	Comment #78 by Whyaken Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:00:03 AM I think the timed completion is an achievement to bother about after you completed it the first time. In some way I expected more of the achievements, but it's not a bad list (except for the MP achievements, I hardly play online)

	Comment #79 by Twilight Star Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:03:57 AM there not that great and there not that bad, like ruthless said i prefer the bully list.

	Comment #80 by KingBroly Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:29:56 AM search the gamertag posted in the pic. You'll find it, but you'll find that this tag does not have the game listed as played. But since the tag exists at all leads me to believe it's true.

	Comment #81 by RobbieW91 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:47:33 AM this game looks really fun, can't wait! also achievements look fun.

	Comment #82 by trixareforchumps Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:53:37 AM I wonder if I'm the only one who understood the reference in the "Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie" achievement..

	Comment #83 by narcolepticshee Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 05:56:42 AM I was hoping for like 1000 achievements worth 1g each kinda thing. There don't seem to be enough for the possibilities available in GTA:IV Peace

	Comment #84 by Darkjay7991 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 06:28:43 AM Okay that is stupid not to buy this awsome game becuase of achivements? I love achievements to but when people played all the other GTA's we didn't have achivements. The game can be just as fun. Although yes the timed one will be hard. But the last one is always Viral. Most of the time when they make a achievement like that it's viral.

	Comment #85 by Dude Rain Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 06:59:29 AM This is an achievement site. This is exactly where people who don't like the achievements are supposed to speak their mind. I'll be buying the game for sure, but I really thought that Rockstar was going to get a little more creative with the achievements for their flagship title.

	Comment #86 by TheKretinousQ Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 07:52:00 AM Looks pretty legit to me. Don't like all of the ranked online stuff as it just turns the whole online community to boosting, so make that a player match thing so it can be done with friends I say. Apart from that the achievements sound pretty decent. As long as 100% doesn't become a hideous task like Bully was...

	Comment #87 by TristanValendro Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 07:56:56 AM Who really cares about boosting gamerscore for a game like GTA? A title like this is going to be owned or played by everyone and remember why people play it in the first place,..it's fun. Just enjoy the game and unlock achievements by accident on the first playthrough.

	Comment #88 by Janca5 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 08:08:34 AM i think if there would have been no achievements at all, everyone who complained would be psyched about the new gta. hands down this will be one of the most badass games in a while, hell with the achievements, i'll be too busy shootin random people in the game in the head and when the cops chase after me, i'll say bring it on

	Comment #89 by v_thorne Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 08:39:52 AM I'm surprised there is no "Kill "x" amount of people" achievement.

	Comment #90 by loudjake Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 08:46:06 AM i seriously doubt this list i sreal as i remember reading an article in OXm last year and they had an interview with rockstar's president and he siad they were not going to be any hidden packages or unique stunt jumps in this GTA

	Comment #91 by RFT 123 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:12:44 AM These actually sound kinda real, these could be passed off as the real achieves. They definetly must be fake.

	Comment #92 by ThePatAttack Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:29:10 AM I'm in between on the achievements. I just expected some originality and humor. They could have done something like complete 3 consecutive insane jumps while drunk driving.

	Comment #93 by Warbo Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:31:42 AM Who cares about whether or not the achievments are good?... this is GTA... I feel sorry for anyone who actually reconsiders buying this game just because of an achievment list...

	Comment #94 by shaun t 07 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:49:21 AM why are u all moaning about the thirty hour achievement, if u dont like u aint got to do it. easy as. I agree with Janca5. to hell with the achievements, just enjoy playing the game at your own pace.

	Comment #95 by olge Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:09:02 AM I don't care even if this is an ach. site, but people saying "i'm not getting this because of bad achievements" makes my blood boil. IT'S FRIGGIN' GTA!

	Comment #96 by conor bp Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:28:58 AM if u ask me that looks like a good achievement list and besides gta rocks so stop whining and saying your not gona buy it because the achievement list looks bad even though its pretty good and just think how fun it'll be to throw an old granny out of a car and take it =D so stop whining and place it on pre-order or something

	Comment #97 by Mikeyt086 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:38:46 AM Looks good, im going to dedicate my summer to getting 1000 on this.

	Comment #98 by X monkfish69 X Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:40:54 AM I'm not entirely convinced that this list is even real. Rockstar have been very secretive about the whole game all the way through and have been releasing info as and when they wanted to. Why would this have been leaked out now ?

	Comment #99 by Godge Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:43:29 AM That looks like quite a good achievement list, I don't know why people are complaining.

	Comment #100 by LukeP91 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:18:12 AM yeah im quite happy with these achievments.

	Comment #101 by Crazyreyn Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:18:29 AM I like it. The only one I don't like is Liberty City Minute, but I can imagine completing the game in under 30 hours (which when you think about it, is a long time).

	Comment #102 by \|oneyedNewb\| Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:19:17 AM beat all liberty city missions in 30 hours, could be done.

	Comment #103 by Matty07 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:26:02 AM most of these sound legit, but i remember hearing somewhere that all the islands would be open to explore right from the start but:- Full Exploration 20G Unlock all the islands. im not 100% sure but i've pre-ordered it any way, its GTA for crying out loud! Warm Coffee! lol

	Comment #104 by Cold Rival Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:39:47 AM To be honest, I thought this list looks pretty good. Sure, the 30 hours and Rockstar one are a little annoying, and the 100% is generic, but this won't mean that the game will be crap. In fact, I think quite the opposite. This game will undoubtedbly be the best of 2008, and I for one am real hyped for it. I preordered this last night (not that I need to, here in the UK, we've a pretty good track record for having enough big games in stock in store, but still...). Anyhoo, for anyone that's debating whether or not to pre-order, there's no bigger incentive now, as "Game" are offering 500 free MS points and codes for downloadable content (gamerpics, I think), for all pre-orders. I lol'd at Warm Coffee! Don't suppose that mini-game will re-appear, will it? (*Flashbacks to Hot Coffee mini-

	Comment #105 by SickSiD0 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:08:24 PM I'm really looking forward to this game. Can't wait to get it! I think the list is rather good

	Comment #106 by Nick1227 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:15:09 PM hmm i don't know about this game because i always liked playing gta but after the story mode you want to just free roam and stuff but i always used codes and stuff just to make it more funny but i guess because of the achievements there won't be any codes for this gta :(

	Comment #107 by CrazyBowie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 12:27:07 PM Gunna try get 1000 of this game within 1 mounth coz iv got the guide woop lol

	Comment #108 by RFT 123 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:11:15 PM How can you have a guide for a game that isn't out yet?

	Comment #109 by xX\|Triple K\|Xx B100dh0uNd Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:12:51 PM If you dont wanna play for the achievements then just play - its GTA! Im gonna play for fun before even touching the achievements. And after all, they aren't all that bad - killing a Rockstar guy? That isn't hard or long or boring so what's the problem? If you don't like them that much, make your own list and post them on the forums. Don't diss Rockstar for making a good game with average achievements. They probably aren't too concerned about them and you shouldn't be either. Unless your a GS whore in which case you shouldn't care if they're bad.

	Comment #110 by CiViL Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:24:40 PM Do 5 car rolls in a row from one crash. does it mean my car has to roll over 5 times ??

	Comment #111 by RFT 123 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:30:23 PM ........yes. I thought that was pretty obvious.

	Comment #112 by dunderdolt Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:42:13 PM Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie 10G Kill a Rockstar developer in a ranked multiplayer match. I may never play against a developer. I don't like this one.

	Comment #113 by Bloody Sky Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:55:37 PM Silly GS whores QQing is funny stuff. I will probably get GTAIV for 360 and PS3. I only want it for the 360 for the online play, cause my friends are too cheap to buy a PS3. Who cares about achievements? If you get them, you do, if not, who cares? But I still can not wait to see if this list is legit or not.

	Comment #114 by Slice0226 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 01:56:44 PM There is Deathmatch.mmm I wonder How that will go online

	Comment #115 by GreyFoxJ Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:15:36 PM People stop whining! GTA is a massive game, it's sales prove it. Just play the game and forget the achievements!

	Comment #116 by Germaniax Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:30:46 PM I hate Multiplayer Achivements!

	Comment #117 by Kenodona Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:31:17 PM I think this is what we could have expected from the achievevemnts of this game. Hope this is the real think, sounds great to me. Fun with some multiplaer too.

	Comment #118 by gt_x7xInFaMoUsx7x Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:41:21 PM this game makes me super horny

	Comment #119 by alehein Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 02:56:28 PM I really hope this list is fake, beacause I know the guys from Rockstar can make a much better one...

	Comment #120 by Boondock47 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:01:44 PM Wow, these achievements sound pretty horrible. They really aren't remotely close to what I expected. I hate the fact that there is a timed one, so many multiplayer ones, and some of them sound straight from Crackdown. I figured they would all be mission-based and kill-based. This sucks, I really hope it is fake.

	Comment #121 by machII Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:02:44 PM I believe you zef :p Yeah GreyfoxJ (y) .. This is the game of the year so people shouldnt complain about the achievements, either get it on PS3 instead or play it on a different account so you dont have "Oh noes, i cant complete this game, my perfect gamertag is ruined!"

	Comment #122 by Adram Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:03:31 PM Really bad list if true. Rockstar is such a good developer and they have proven they care about making genuinely entertaining and fun achievement lists with Bully. This list seems cobbled together and does nothing to reflect all of the possibilities of a sandbox game world like GTA. They should have went with a highly creative Orange Box style list.

	Comment #123 by BackerMan Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:08:42 PM if those achievement list are real then the bully's list are better. I don't like the multiplayer achievement. I think those list are fake but we'll see.

	Comment #124 by ssj27 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:13:14 PM they look pretty legit, but i expect a few to be slightly different

	Comment #125 by Crazy Cabbie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:15:45 PM I hate the fact that they added multi-player. as for the 30 hrs. i don't think it will be hard to do. All gta games only have about 10 hrs. of main story missions, so you have 20 more to explore.

	Comment #126 by Joe Boy 1986 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:22:51 PM i've got to be honest. i was expecting a lot more and a lot more interesting achievemnets, i do hope that whoever got this news has got it wrong.

	Comment #127 by Pheonix_Assassin Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:32:47 PM Ermm well wont al those be easy like the 500k Balance easy with Cheats like in San Andreas!

	Comment #128 by WARNING DemoMan Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:36:58 PM I Will Remain In A State Of "EUPHORIA" Well After I Get My Hands On GTA 4

	Comment #129 by hahamu Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:37:18 PM i don't like that "liberty city minute" achievement either, and i hope it's fake. But this list sounds to detailed to have been made up, but i don't know, lets see.

	Comment #130 by toolshuggah Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:45:40 PM "complete story mission in under 30 hours" Wow..

	Comment #131 by toolshuggah Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:46:38 PM assassins creed achievements are original? Lol if you complete the game you have more than 80% of them. And if you think finding 300 needless hidden items is good then man something's wrong with you

	Comment #132 by quidyg Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:54:47 PM i'm not too sure wether these are real or not. theres some good ideas for achievements its just some of the wording isnt really professional.

	Comment #133 by Richafir Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 04:59:20 PM Not bad

	Comment #134 by RareCoincidence Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 07:42:16 PM i still getting this game what ever the achievements are,but im a bit miffed that there are ranked ones

	Comment #135 by S1xthNY Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:12:51 PM not happy with this list..i hate having to do stupid multiplayer achievements in order to get a full 1000G in any game unless its multiplayer based when created. i expected gta4 to not fall into the same slump other games have..it doesnt add replay value to a game of this calibur as it will already have a ton of it to begin with..i hope this is fake

	Comment #136 by JC Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:17:54 PM These look great, but some will be very hard. Doubt I will get the full 1000G even if I play the game for the rest of the year, which I will!

	Comment #137 by Thorpe Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:24:53 PM Probably BS.

	Comment #138 by EL1TExWARRIOR Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:32:15 PM Can't Wait.

	Comment #139 by Blue Thunder28 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:40:10 PM "Fly underneath the main bridges in the game that cross water with a helicopter." The wording in that sounds fake.. I hope this list is fake... they could be a lot more fun.

	Comment #140 by NeoAurora712 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:40:54 PM Everyone's complaining about these but what did you expect the achievements to look like for GTAIV? They have the wanted level, the mini-games, warm coffee, and story missions along with the added multi-player. Just hope that developer one is viral.

	Comment #141 by Randomnutta Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:45:28 PM cant wait :D

	Comment #142 by matthewmcg360 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:47:41 PM awesome achievements! looking forward to this.

	Comment #143 by SengIV Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:52:48 PM Bully showed that Rockstar had achievement talent. This is straight up BS. Rockstar would not make Bully have pimpin acheivements and leave its almighty power GTA in the achievement dump.

	Comment #144 by bradin1024 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:56:11 PM be interesting to see how accurate these are

	Comment #145 by Krazie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 09:57:13 PM @Seng - Bully was developed by Rockstar Vancouver, and GTA IV is developed by Rockstar North. Different studios mean different teams, so the people that made the Bully achievements aren't the ones that made the GTA achievements.

	Comment #146 by YogiB Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:23:53 PM I hope some are real and some are don`t but as many say, GTA is fun even if they had drop achivments people had buy it and play it offline or online just for the freedom and fun you can have if you are tried too try too complete a game or get an ahivement and want to have some fun then just turn on GTA and drive around,maybye use some cheat and do whatever you want:D (unless you haven`t complete it yet)

	Comment #147 by RyanMcD4444 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 10:33:44 PM I like these.

	Comment #148 by CrazyBowie Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:13:53 PM there good stop compaling

	Comment #149 by spydaX3 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:22:57 PM i just pick up rvs6,condmened2 and bully but am going to be playing this one more!

	Comment #150 by BootlegWarrior6 Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:33:18 PM i dont know, they sound real, but in game informer, rockstar said that ehere would not be online play, but possible offline co-op. so this is fishy...

	Comment #151 by NightTimeScene Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 11:41:24 PM There going to be a bitch.. i always hated the fucking racing shit!!!

	Comment #152 by she haunts me Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:01:42 AM I don't like the looks of these. I hope this isn't the final list.

	Comment #153 by Xythar Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:07:01 AM Too many people complain about multiplayer achievements.

	Comment #154 by Blackjaw x Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:10:49 AM Looks like this game may go on my secondary profile. That's where I play the games I don't want to ruin because of achievements (GH3, Rock Band)

	Comment #155 by Fonkey Monkey Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:11:43 AM really good list. but the wording on some of them doesnt sound very official. but tbh i wont be playing this game for achievements at all. fuck you achievement system, you arent going to take the fun out of this game.

	Comment #156 by lid Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:27:55 AM no matter what the achievements are there's always gonna be a handful of people complaining. This achievement list is alright I guess but playing this for fun is my first priority.

	Comment #157 by Parkerktm Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:28:34 AM Overall they look great @ fonkey, i agree, this is one game that I defiently will not pay attention to the achievement list.

	Comment #158 by majold Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:47:02 AM Maybe the 30 hour one means complete all the story missions, and the time taken just for those cannot exceed 30 hours? Not do the game in less then 30 hours. Either way, can't wait till the 29th.

	Comment #159 by dakisbac Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:47:29 AM Assuming this is real, the only one that has the potential to piss me off is the last one (and coming from someone who FINALLY got the EA Moderator achievement on NFS Carbon the other day). Most of the other ones look like you'd get them going for the 100% achievement anyways, which is something I'd be doing regardless of achievements (I got 100% on SA with no reward, except the tank) So, overall, I don't think this list is bad

	Comment #160 by tbc_hitman Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:55:09 AM love this game

	Comment #161 by ASTROBL4ACK Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 01:26:19 AM This will be the game to break my GYA virinity!

	Comment #162 by ROA5T BeeF Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 02:52:09 AM Everything was going well till I read the Liberty City Minute achievement. All the others ones look fun, but that one will just piss me off, almost like BioWare expects us to complete the "majority of the game" like 3 times in order to get 1000 points in Mass Effect. Please remove that Achievement, Rockstar.

	Comment #163 by TqureX Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 03:06:27 AM list looks ok but complete the story in 30 hrs looks hard lol

	Comment #164 by Stuckey From 3 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 04:08:46 AM This list is fake its been confirmed on the GTA forums

	Comment #165 by artvandel4y Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 04:10:03 AM Yeah guys, this is probably fake. Did you notice it was entirely made from stuff you'd seen in trailers and in interviews? I wouldn't be surprised either way, and if it's a fake, someone did their homework. Considering how for nearly everything else in this game, Rockstar has kept their cards close to the chest, I'm dubious. Where's the drunk driving achievement?

	Comment #166 by A PoopSandwich Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 04:17:21 AM This game looks like it might be fun...NOT!

	Comment #167 by MYRM1D0N Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 05:41:46 AM oh man, i truly cant wait for this game, but i hate when achievements for games are like that... that require luck

	Comment #168 by punker Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 06:23:44 AM I don't get why everyone is so worked up about these right now. First off all, it's just a rumored list. And second, a lot of these achievement descriptions have horrible grammar mistakes in them. No way were they written by Rockstar that way. I'm calling fake.

	Comment #169 by Asholay Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 07:49:14 AM I would guess only some are real - i.e. looks like someone has seen a partial list, but has made up some to create a complete list. Also, looks too much like half of them have just been based on previous GTA games & the trailers - I mean is this game really going to be that similar to previous GTAs? The achievements say yes, trailers and screeners say no...?

	Comment #170 by Gh05t El1te Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:10:00 AM Some of the wording following the achievemnt title is a little suspicious. I'm not sure this is real at all.

	Comment #171 by Killplz Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:34:03 AM GTA is not about achievements. People are obsessed about Achievments, The last time you played GTA were you getting achievments?.... NO Were you having fun?... Hell ya ! So just get the game and play it. Injoy the online, and the achievments that u get when you do play. You can play GTA or Viva Pinyata, u pick! i choose GTAIV !!!!!!!!!!!!

	Comment #172 by rockhopper Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:47:29 AM Not very impressed with the list of achievements. Was expecting some real fun ones. However I don't mind it because I'm a HUGE fan of GTA. I've played every one on the PS2 and completed them about 100% and never got any achievements due to there not being any. The fact that I'll get achievements for this one while enjoying it are just a side bonus for this game. It's gonna be great! For people to say they're not going to even play this game now because of the achievements is ridiculous. Stop the gamerscore whoring and enjoy a great game for what it is for once.

	Comment #173 by ALLoY20 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:54:35 AM Not so crazy about the multiplayer ones. The MP modes of games that arent really MP games normally suck.

	Comment #174 by dadema Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 09:33:10 AM let's wait for the game

	Comment #175 by l3th4l hitm4n Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 09:45:22 AM i just read on oxm.co.uk that they can confirm these are real because they reviewed the game and have seen the achievements unlock

	Comment #176 by The Aimless 1DR Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 11:01:13 AM the list looks all right.the timed achievement eeeeehhhhh..... not a gr8 idea but,as long as its fun(which I'm sure it will be)thats all that matters.guess you could always play it twice and get your moneys worth right? rockstar has'ent let us down yet,so I don't see them starting now! PEACE!!!

	Comment #177 by vgcollateral Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 11:10:23 AM Killplz says it all really

	Comment #178 by o7-ross-o8 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 12:30:55 PM big let down

	Comment #179 by CrazyBowie Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 01:22:16 PM Where the hell is the achevement 4 killing 10k of cervilians or the one for escaping an areest 50 times or the for killing the police officer that arested u while ur in ur cell or even the 1 4 calling the cops on a cervilian 20 times 4 a distraction or even 4 knoking out a hobo putin him in ur boot diving to a building taking him to top hanging him of till he gives u all his spare change then droping m on another hobo and its called two in 1 See i am the best achevment maker

	Comment #180 by gloggie Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 01:35:54 PM Seems like good achievements that most will come automaticly throughout the course of the game

	Comment #181 by WARNING DemoMan Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 02:00:47 PM in previous games like S.A. you got rewards for finishing tasks like the firefighter missions (becoming fire proof), the pimp missions(prostitutes pay you for their time) i cant see rockstar forgetting things like that. DEFINATLY FAKE!

	Comment #182 by Avenger Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 02:16:05 PM Looks like they will be fun. Not sure about the 30 hour one, and hope the kill a rockstar employee is viral, but otherwise most look easily achievable

	Comment #183 by Prince Carnage Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 04:41:09 PM According to OXM UK, they have played the game and reviewed it and they say that the achievements are legit.

	Comment #184 by Wanted407 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 05:01:48 PM they look too easy...

	Comment #185 by Lord of Fate Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 06:35:36 PM If these are real, they look normal to me except I swear to God these 2 better not be what I think they are: Wanted (get the highest personal rank in MP) Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie (kill a R* developer in a ranked MP match). It better not be telling us to get the highest Trueskill rank possible (like Saints Row) and to do a one-time thing killing a developer (kinda like community race days in NFS).

	Comment #186 by Twilight Star Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 07:25:08 PM they are real oxm confirmed it unless R* told them to lie. i would post a link but im on my wii.

	Comment #187 by AcA Black Fist Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:19:09 PM they look real but the seem to easy but even still can not wait for GTA4

	Comment #188 by Constantean21 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:40:27 PM i hope there is co-op, like you could walk around the city with at least one other player

	Comment #189 by dethcomesforye Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 08:43:32 PM i dont know about others, but i think that the achievements really are not important when it comes to a great game like GTA 4.. i mean id love an achievement list that just had crazy achievements that i could go for after i was done with the story line

	Comment #190 by Lostheroes5686 Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 10:18:36 PM yeah i have to admit this is one of the games where the achievements don't matter to be honest even the storyline doesn't have to be that great as long as the open world environment is nice and you can climb some stuff and maybe even swim then I'm a happy customer

	Comment #191 by DrZGnKsTaPa Tuesday, April 01, 2008 @ 12:36:24 AM Looks pretty solid.. allthough some i see are easy nd others pretty hard... but then again thats how every game is !!

	Comment #192 by Matty07 Tuesday, April 01, 2008 @ 12:31:09 PM can someone post a link to the owm review? i cant find it :s

	Comment #193 by lilgoodie07 Wednesday, April 02, 2008 @ 03:31:09 PM cant wait till this game finally drops, as an achievement whore myself, i will have all of the achievements within 5 months

	Comment #194 by Hunkelberry Wednesday, April 02, 2008 @ 06:35:10 PM ok First off stop whining THEY DONT HAVE TO MAKE ACHIEVEMENTS, they are only doing bc microsoft wants to be better then sony. Personally i Think they look really good... i preordered my gta for ps3 (Bluray) someone way up there said something about it 30 hours being a long time, i tottally agree with him, Bioshock is what 15 hours of story, it cant possible be that much bigger.

	Comment #195 by sskingginyu Wednesday, April 02, 2008 @ 11:36:53 PM This achievement list is great. It's better than what I expected. But even if the achievements sucked, I'd still be buying GTA because it is just that awesome.

	Comment #196 by Intenthawk2587 Saturday, April 05, 2008 @ 01:19:20 AM Well lets see these achievements look bogus. I do not think rockstar would be stupid enough to allow the achievements to their most popular game series of all time to be leaked out before launch. The reason for that is exactly what you guys are doing. Saying that these achievements look boring and that you dont think your going to buy the game. Disregard what ever you have seen hear on April 29th we will see exactly what Rockstar and GTA IV has to offer.

	Comment #197 by T360GEAR Monday, April 07, 2008 @ 09:22:16 AM If you order from Hmv You Get 1000 microsoft points and 130.00 Voucher Booklet and Gta IV for 39.99 Which is better than Game Is only 500 points I got it For 35.99 [If you have a student card or know any1 use] Game instore will probaly be 44.99 so Check out Hmv.com

	Comment #198 by ArmoredCookie Monday, April 07, 2008 @ 02:30:30 PM First off guys I'm sure that the people who noted these achievements down were not paying attention to grammar. Even Beta releases have mistakes in spelling. Second, most of the people who complained about the achievements like beating all the story missions in under 30 hours have never completed a game fully. You didn't care then and why should u care now? And lastly achievements aside, this game is going to be amazing. pick up a copy of the latest OXM magazine and read the review. 16 Player online Free Roam, online Multiplayer, and Co-op. It doesn't get much better than that, and stop complaining about achievements, they are there to get if you want to, so don't get them if you don't.

	Comment #199 by Joshymitsu Monday, April 07, 2008 @ 07:13:38 PM Lol can't believe your all bitching about achievements, if it's a good game then it's a good game. You can't judge a game on achievements.

	Comment #200 by dylandmk Wednesday, April 09, 2008 @ 03:22:03 AM yeah i cant wait till this game comes out specially the online but do with out the 30 hours achivments and kill a rockstar person iwant to try and 1000 gscore on this game so please i beg you dont have those two achivements please and to the guy who whos said about bitching well they put these up to see what you think dumb@#$ so dont be like assains creed and have to beat the whole game again but thx making these games hope you make more

	Comment #201 by gu4p0p00p Wednesday, April 09, 2008 @ 11:16:23 PM Looks aight it aint Saints!!

	Comment #202 by RvB Xx Donut xX Thursday, April 10, 2008 @ 02:33:24 PM I think the achievements are a bit dull I was hoping for stuff like steal x amount of cars and kill x amount of people and complete all the police, fireman and medic missions because at least those are more closely related to the game rather than go and flip a vehicle. However, I do agree with alot of people here I pre-ordered the game well before this list came out because it is GTA and even if the game had no achievements I'd Still buy it!! P.S KSI go fuck yourself

	Comment #203 by justinpf Saturday, April 12, 2008 @ 09:37:47 AM Ok list, but it could be and should be better

	Comment #204 by TGAM BILLY Saturday, April 12, 2008 @ 01:35:39 PM @ comment 201, i think you're on the wrong website m8. Ranked achievements suk balls, i wanna play with my friends, u can have more fun boosting on player matches sometimes. (if u are the boosting type) ppl who care about someone else's gamerscore can tell if u boost, Avatar anyone. each to their own. as for the list, half seem quite fun to get, half seem quite dull. if its the real list that is.

	Comment #205 by Joseph 4499 Saturday, April 12, 2008 @ 07:51:20 PM These can't be right.

	Comment #206 by JiveT Monday, April 14, 2008 @ 04:19:08 AM Wow. I guess I better hop online right away and stay there until I get the online acheevos. Otherwise it will probably be impossible. It already seems highly improbable.

	Comment #207 by StealthMaster86 Monday, April 14, 2008 @ 06:21:30 AM The only thing I don't like is the Mulitplayer achievements. In fact I never liked Mulitplayer Achievements.

	Comment #208 by Elitedead Monday, April 14, 2008 @ 05:40:19 PM Its real, In the review they said that there's and achievement called Assasins greed and its there.

	Comment #209 by Draco 125 Monday, April 14, 2008 @ 07:05:47 PM i want a old lady to throw a molotov at me already

	Comment #210 by Mythicx13 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 @ 01:34:02 AM awesome

	Comment #211 by BCK360 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 @ 09:55:00 PM if your good then youll get achievements legitly if your not then you wont oblivion was masive and plenty did it in 30- hours so how can gta be any more masive its a shooting run and gun type game you run and gun through objectives and boom you got it in les than 30 hours and the rockstar achievement cant be hard they want to play their game as much as we do so theyll be all over achievements were made to be possible so just shut up and do them or not play gta is not ment to be bought get achievements and sell its ment to play for a countless amount of time and have fun

	Comment #212 by Link909 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 @ 10:56:38 PM Is that last one viral?? Cause finding and killing a Rockstar developer could be really difficult. It involves too much randomness to be considered an achievement unless it was viral

	Comment #213 by VampireViking Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 12:10:11 AM the "compleate story missions in 30 hours" i dont think that means compleate the game in 30 hours..just the missions..so i think between that .ie running round killing things :) doesnt count as time on this i hope

	Comment #214 by XxBlueSpade2xX Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 01:44:22 AM warm coffee.... haha

	Comment #215 by Keizer Godzilla Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 04:14:25 AM I think they do count the running around and stuff because it shouldn't take any game even now to beat in under 30 hours, but I will definitely not try this at first...just get acquainted with some of the new features in Liberty City first and then go through again and try it....at least that's what i'm gonna do, unless it's only a one-time playthrough

	Comment #216 by jrhartly Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 06:00:40 AM I cant wait for the end of April ....man its going to rock..

	Comment #217 by Asholay Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 08:40:26 AM Now what would have been cool is 1 achievement worth 1000 points for getting 100% of the game... That way people would just play it any way they wanted, and those who want the points can rinse as much as they want to score it..! I want this game more than I want anything in the world right now - and I love the fact that a game can do that to me.

	Comment #218 by XxCARPENTERxX Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 08:51:02 AM ok... number 1: most people here are just achievement whores who play games like king kong and LOST via domus just so they can have pointless points(no pun intended), i mean wht the hell is so special about gamerscore?? get a life you nerds... number 2: the amount of grammatical errors in this acheivement list is staggering, no way would rockstar make people want to rush throught the game in 30 hours... they spent 3 years working on it why the hell would they want you to finish it in 30 hours?????????????????

	Comment #219 by RareCoincidence Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 09:33:14 AM i hope the kill a rockstar developer is a viral achievement like blacksite and halo.how would you know there online

	Comment #220 by metz08lm Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 11:21:20 AM 13 days to gooooooooooo

	Comment #221 by timaart Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 12:12:22 PM cool list

	Comment #222 by seven43861 Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 01:57:04 PM They look pretty simple enough.

	Comment #223 by PIGW0RTH Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 03:27:36 PM Damn, If you play through this game you might need two playthroughs one for 100% and one for 30hours because you might skip side missions for 30hours but it will be worth it if it's as good as San Andreas

	Comment #224 by JakK93 Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 03:28:20 PM i did post a list a few days ago that is virtually the same as this ;)

	Comment #225 by hippymanjas Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 06:21:54 PM The 30 hour achievement one...yikes! And only for a suggested 30-points I think hats off to all that 1000 point this one!

	Comment #226 by Callum x360a Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 08:12:16 PM XxCARPENTERxX, I see you created an account here just to slag off the guys who come to this site. You call us nerds, explain how we are nerds for what we do, as I don't see anything nerdy about it. Achievements are great, they add more to a game,convince you to play to 100% completion. So don't go slagging us off, maybe your jealous cos you can't win a race on Cars, or can't do the first level on King Kong and are stuck with 600gs. So, welcome to x360a, now would you kindly f**k right back off again.

	Comment #227 by XxCARPENTERxX Wednesday, April 16, 2008 @ 10:06:45 PM Ah Jimmy yes indeed i did create an account just to give you all my point of view, and i have to disagree with you man, achievements suck bollocks, they ruin games by making you rush through them and bend over backwards at every checkpoint to collect something new or take a photo of this or shoot at that then make u go online and do them...WHY cant they make online achievements into challenges like COD4 and let offline gamers unlcok everything without having to pay 1.000000000 microdick points or whatever... oh and thankyou Jimmy for your sarcastic king kong joke LOL that made me laugh for ages!!

	Comment #228 by geneon101 Thursday, April 17, 2008 @ 08:48:05 AM i cant wait to play this game. i hope these achievements are the real deal. just read them to my buddy. but i do agree that gamerscore turned alot of the games in to competing for who has the top gamerscore. they could have at least given us like 10 microsoft points for every 1 gamerscore.

	Comment #229 by Callum x360a Thursday, April 17, 2008 @ 10:34:19 AM I agree completely with what you are saying about online achievements, I hate them, and also about the collecting and shit. But just because you dont't like them at all, that doesn't give you the right to come on here and call everyone nerds and other shit just because they do. I know your entitled to your opinion, but calling everyone is just childish really. "Go ond get a life, nerds". They have a life, can't you see that? It's you who needs one, now you can call me all the names under the sun, but I'm done, I ain't going any further down to your level, I have achievements to unlock!

	Comment #230 by crA1zy crA1g Thursday, April 17, 2008 @ 09:13:20 PM The achievement list looks a little dull, the game i hope will be a hit and meet my expectations but whats with the racing online achievements. I hope it has shoot em up online play if it doesnt i will be very disappointed because what do you do after you've completed the game if theirs no decent online? You throw it on ur shelf and neva play it again. If i wanted to race online id be buying Need For Speed not GTA. I hope they havnt screwed it up.

	Comment #231 by g-wistuba1 Sunday, April 20, 2008 @ 07:30:09 PM they all look kinda crappy

	Comment #232 by XxCARPENTERxX Monday, April 21, 2008 @ 07:07:39 AM ahahaaha Jimmy my Achievement Nemisis... All this time i have been infiltrating this crappy GayBOX 360 website, hahahahahhahahhaha PS3 all the way!!!

	Comment #233 by bigbounce14 Monday, April 21, 2008 @ 05:55:58 PM the achievements are hard kinda borin but oh well lol

	Comment #234 by bigrod91 Tuesday, April 22, 2008 @ 07:33:42 PM since when has achievements been fun???? people buy games just to play them and to have fun... unless ur an ACHIEVEMENT WHORE!!!!!!

	Comment #235 by seahn Wednesday, April 23, 2008 @ 10:40:39 PM i like the you won! that seems prety rewarding, just the "you won!" i dont know but i cant wait, this is going to be a long game, for all the achievements oh yeah and shame on you achievement whores who wont play this game just because it wont boost your score

	Comment #236 by seahn Wednesday, April 23, 2008 @ 10:47:04 PM come to think of it, it took me a little over 30 hours to beat the story of SA (not including side missions, just the main story) i think it was 32 to be exact i hope this game has a little more content than the last

	Comment #237 by XxDisturbed85xX Wednesday, April 23, 2008 @ 10:48:20 PM most of them suck and kinda seem a little hard. i really wish there were some morw story ones too. but never the less the game is gonna be bad ass.

	Comment #238 by seahn Wednesday, April 23, 2008 @ 10:51:04 PM in response to comment #90 wasnt it also said by rockstar games that they wouldnt make another grand theft auto???

	Comment #239 by MeWantHoneycomb Thursday, April 24, 2008 @ 05:21:17 PM These achievements actually suck...too bad I don't care about achievements anyway! This game is going to rock my socks! Oh fiddlesticks, I just pooped a little.

	Comment #240 by nickamso Thursday, April 24, 2008 @ 07:14:34 PM looks pretty awesome... complete in under 30 hours might be difficult. but since when are games like these about achievements.. there just so good.

	Comment #241 by abileneeagle68 Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 04:05:30 AM hey they look great hope theyre real

	Comment #242 by XxCARPENTERxX Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 05:45:19 AM this isnt the real list x360 noobs, PS3 is better

	Comment #243 by jam1066 Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 01:10:59 PM I can confirm these achievements are real. I'm looking at them right now.

	Comment #244 by Callum x360a Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 06:13:02 PM XxCARPENTERxX, you pathetic excuse for a human being, how wrong you are, the list is legit and PS3 is shit. I've seen the list, and I've played PS3, so I can honestly say you're wrong. Anyway why are you still commenting if you hate Xbox, shouldn't you be off playing with your PS3 mates? Do you like constantly being a noob or are you just menatally retarded?

	Comment #245 by HughJazz Saturday, April 26, 2008 @ 01:05:52 AM I think that last achievement is crap and makes me believe the rest must be as well. Beat a developer? Like they'll be there playing all the time? I would be highly pissed if I couldn't get that cause none of them were playing.

	Comment #246 by LSmith92 Saturday, April 26, 2008 @ 09:32:39 AM They should make the developer achievement like the one in THP8 where you can beat a developer or someone that alreay has.

	Comment #247 by LOUISSNAFU Saturday, April 26, 2008 @ 09:38:16 AM I hope that the achievements aren't ruining the gameplay!Cause i have played all the GTA Games and liked them all!

	Comment #248 by Faird Saturday, April 26, 2008 @ 05:27:40 PM Sorry "XxCARPENTERxX" I too am playing the game right now and they are real. Why would I want this game for PS3 I would rather have the downloads that 360 will have!

	Comment #249 by X Dboi X Saturday, April 26, 2008 @ 08:05:59 PM THIS IS THE REAL LIST.. My freind just got the game from work and it shows all these achvs and all, Sick.. How did you get these before anybody else knew?

	Comment #250 by X CrAzYMonkee X Sunday, April 27, 2008 @ 11:39:54 AM well as someone posted these are the achivments that makes me a little dissapointed.. none look to fun.. I wanted things like, kill 10,000 people, blow up 1000 cars, kill 5000 cops and stuff like that. instead of a chain reaction of 10 why not 50.. that would be more fun oh well..

	Comment #251 by iloy0182 Sunday, April 27, 2008 @ 02:16:13 PM it looks pretty hard to mee

	Comment #252 by GuitaristAnime Monday, April 28, 2008 @ 10:25:22 AM These look like a breeze, not many long time achievements for playing 300 hours or w/e, shame but they still look fun. But hey the DLC for this game should be awesome so they may bring new achievements in years to come!

	Comment #253 by jamez629 Saturday, May 03, 2008 @ 08:03:22 AM Looks a lot harder than Call of Duty 4. LOL

	Comment #254 by DraZiC11 Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 08:05:27 AM mksystem74 who plays games for achievements? play them for fun not to make your gs bigger

	Comment #255 by SeanMcBrooks Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 06:34:02 PM I got most of these theyre pretty hard alright but fun

	Comment #256 by pwnagenuss Thursday, May 15, 2008 @ 06:58:24 PM erm, ive completed the game and romans died, how do i get the "It'll Cost Ya" achevment?

	Comment #257 by jasongarcia Monday, May 26, 2008 @ 07:54:09 PM I DONT LIKE THAT ACHIEVEMENT... THAT MAKES YOU PASS THE GAME IN LESS THEN 30 HOURS BECUASE I WANT TO TAKE MY TIME WITH IT...!

	Comment #258 by crispychips07 Tuesday, June 10, 2008 @ 10:26:17 AM hey i have gta iv 4 whateva and today i killed a rockstar developer and killed a zombie and now am one so yeah gta iv rocks 360 rules and yeah cyas

	Comment #259 by N_D_L_87 Sunday, November 16, 2008 @ 12:57:37 PM I have the game and find it pretty dumb with the achievements,when you do a cheat it blocks an achievement.

	Comment #260 by MediumMelanin Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 05:53:15 PM well, turns it out it was a real list.

	Comment #261 by Rusty0010 Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 08:12:30 AM well, turns it out it was a real list. Amen

	Comment #262 by KennyPowers1989 Wednesday, April 08, 2009 @ 04:18:13 PM It is 100% legit. and i'm happy that i snagged the "Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie" achievement!

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Developed By: Rockstar North Published By: Rockstar Games Genre: Action Release Date: US: April 29, 2008 Europe: April 29, 2008 Japan: October 30, 2008
Resolution: 720p
Sound: Dolby 5.1 Surround
Players: 1
Online Players: 16
ESRB: M
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Downloadable content - achievements or no achievements - will you buy it with or without them?
	If the content is good, or for a game I love, I'll buy it regardless of whether chievos are included
	I'll still buy and play the downloadable content, but achievements would be nice.
	Who the hell cares!?
	No achievements, no sale ... and that goes for any game ... whether you're GTA or Halo!
	Just stop with the DLC achievements full stop ... you're ruining my completion percentage dammit!
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