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Mass Effect 3 Co-Op Hands-On Preview – For the Good of the Galaxy?
Written Thursday, October 27, 2011 By Dan Webb
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The controversy and negativity that surrounded the announcement of Mass Effect 3’s co-operative multiplayer still hums and echoes in the darkest corners of the internet. “It’s not needed!” “Why do developers have to ruin great single-player games!?” “What are EA and BioWare smoking?” All valid questions and statements for anyone who’s been misinformed or who hasn’t really read up on why and how Mass Effect’s 3 co-op has been put in and what BioWare hopes to achieve with it. In truth, the ‘Galaxy at War’ aspect of Mass Effect 3 sounds like a mouth-watering prospect on paper, but then again so did the Max Payne movie. In order to put fears to rest and give you the skinny on whether it it’ll live up to its billing, we went hands-on with it recently to put the mode through its paces.

For those not up to date on Mass Effect 3’s co-op, in a nutshell, it'll have you and three mates battling it out against 11 waves of varying foes in key strongholds across the galaxy to assist Shepard in his war against the Reapers. Firstly, it’s entirely optional and not necessary if you want to achieve the “optimal” ending; and secondly, it’s been made by an entirely new studio (BioWare Montreal) with only guidance from the Mass Effect team, meaning your single-player game shouldn’t suffer as a result. Now that that’s out the way, let’s get into the nitty gritty.

Players can choose characters from one of six races: human, Krogan, Asari, Drell, Salarian and Turian (what, no Quarian?! What the hell BioWare?!) each of which have their own special abilities to separate them from the others and have certain classes to choose from. For instance, the Asari come in two forms: Adept and Vanguard, because of their biotic strengths. Unfortunately for us and our timing, we were stuck with a female human character – which incidentally is the only species with a male and female to pick from – who specialised as a Sentinel. Unlike the single-player game, because you have no squad members to choose from, the special abilities are mapped to the directional-pad to use – we had three: push, warp and tech armour.

Setting up on a map called “White” – which we’re pretty sure isn’t the final name of said map and if it is, creativity’s obviously dead at BioWare – we took the battle to an icy-landing pad of sorts with various warehouse style interiors – you know, your traditional Mass Effect combat setting where crates are as common as stupidity is in this day and age – to fight 11 waves of indoctrinated Cerberus soldiers. With alleyways surrounding a jet-fighter of sorts that acted as good cover on the landing pad, the four of us huddled round and proceeded to fortify ourselves in a protectable position.

The objective of the game is simple: kill any enemy combatant that crosses your path, earn money and complete all 11 waves that get progressively harder. In short: it’s ‘Horde’ but in the Mass Effect universe. It’s not just about straight up killing though and it’s not always as simple as that, as BioWare throws mandatory objectives into various waves (such as hack a computer, which acts much in the way as a territory or king of the hill game mode would play out) and they even throw much bigger beasties your way, for example, in wave 5 or 6 we faced off against a huge Atlas mech, which requires teamwork to takedown. It’s a matter of making use of your powers and weaponry then, topping up ammo at the red crates dotted around the map should you run out.

It wasn’t long before that initial notion of teamwork went out the window though, as the landing pad seemed rather quiet and our bloodthirsty team went looking for blood. That in itself was a mistake, as splitting up from the rest of the team means you’re vulnerable should you find yourself in a spot of bother and get downed. Unfortunately for me, my teammates went too far away at around wave 7 or 8, as they were inundated with Cerberus troops and I subsequently was the last man standing. It’s a matter of fighting through to the end of the wave so they respawn or lying down and admitting defeat and starting the wave again. That wasn’t about to happen! Using the walkways around the side of the landing pad, the 10+ playthroughs of Mass Effect 1 & 2 to date started to really come in handy. Using cover and a combination of some carefully swerved biotic powers and shotgun shells I was able to pick off the remaining 10 or so troops one-by-one and then it was time to rinse and repeat.

And therein lies Mass Effect 3’s co-op’s problem… the combat in Mass Effect to-date, although much stronger in Mass Effect 2, has always taken a back seat to the story, the squad management and interaction, and the dialogue; none of that which is present here. It’s all rather soulless and repetitive, and if I’m being perfectly frank, it’s rather boring as well.

Look, now we totally understand why BioWare has shoehorned co-op into Mass Effect 3, but that doesn’t mean we have to like it. Unfair to say shoehorned? Not at all, because that’s how it plays. While the combat itself isn’t that bad, it only goes to highlight the weaknesses when the game relies on its third-person shooter mechanics. It feels like they’ve taken out what makes Mass Effect what it is today just as an excuse to promote longevity. Of course, we’ll reserve final judgement until next March, but unless things drastically changes in the meantime, we suspect that the finished article will be as soulless and shallow as we experienced with our hands-on recently. Thank goodness that Mass Effect 3 is all about the single-player then, because otherwise we’d be up shit creek without a paddle.

Mass Effect 3 is scheduled for a March 6th and March 9th release in North America and Europe respectively.




 
 

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Comment #1 by iFeared
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:02:28 AM
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Hope it's good


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Comment #2 by strawberry
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:05:43 AM
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I don't expect the co op portion to be anywhere near as good as the single player portion, but as long as the single player portion is epic (which it better be), I don't mind the addition of something like this where I can fool around with my friends.


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Comment #3 by skaghead
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:05:46 AM
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I wonder if this will be playable with CPU team mates,not many on my friends list play RPGs?


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Comment #4 by Tifa007
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:05:48 AM
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Wow, that's brutally honest. But sadly, it's probably how I'll feel too.


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Comment #5 by gambit444
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:06:01 AM
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We need campaign Coop not some minigame with lame "resource" rewards for the main campaign.


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Comment #6 by PickVanCleef
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:06:12 AM
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Co-op isn't anywhere near the main attraction for me...but I'm still hoping it will be a good experience. I for one think the combat is great, and whilst I can see merely relying on it for multiple waves may grate a bit, I still think the premise has potential in the series.


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Comment #7 by bookeworm
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:06:50 AM
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As I completionist, I think I will go for the full Single Player experience. I just hope there aren't achievements for this.


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Comment #8 by Sgt Furby 777
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:07:41 AM
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I think this will be excellent. @7, Im down for co-op achievements, it gives me that extra challenge


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Comment #9 by DDDLOTS
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:07:46 AM
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I feel vindicated hearing this is shallow and boring. I for one will not be going anywhere near this mode. Save this crap for where ever the series goes next and let ME3 focus on Shepard.


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Comment #10 by Runny
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:08:37 AM
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Well hopefully with the remaining time they have they can spice it up and make it more fun and interesting. Still looking forward to it, but by no means will it replace horde mode for us :p


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Comment #11 by collin232
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:08:45 AM
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I hope there are no coop achievements so it stays truly optional.


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Comment #12 by Opiate42
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:09:53 AM
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Not too concerned. I like Horde, Zombies, Escalation, whatever they want to call it, AI wave defense modes are always fun. My only concern is all my other friends aren't getting ME3, they'll be eyeball deep in BF3 or MW3 instead. So fingers crossed there will be some form of public matchmaking or else I won't be able to play this part anyhow.


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Comment #13 by Oultranator0731
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:12:49 AM
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Wow, for Webb to not like something on Mass Effect is very worrying.
Let's hope they add some character to it and anything else that they can to make it better.

I'm not too bothered by this though, it'd be a nice addition but as long as it doesn't affect the single player(and it won't) then I'm happy.


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Comment #14 by chaos1086
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:14:35 AM
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it sucks that im gonna have to play crap to get some achievements unless they dont do achievements for it like they didnt with dead space 2's multiplayer


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Comment #15 by Elyk Nosam
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:21:23 AM
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As long as the game is just as long (or longer) than ME2, and that what you do in that time isn't boring and really repetitive, I'll be happy.

:)


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Comment #16 by Dragon Nexus
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:22:22 AM
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You'd have thought after Mass Effect 1's DLC with the "Fight in special areanas for prizes!" crap that was utterly dull and entirely missed the point of the game they'd understand we don't buy Mass Effect for a co-operative, shooting experience. We buy it for an engaging story, role playing and questing. You know, like an RPG. The shooting is just a means to an end. Are they going to make a co-op horde mode for Dragon Age 3 as well? Would Baldurs Gate 2 have been so much better if they threw in a competitive one on one mode?


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Comment #17 by Spandex Stiffy
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:23:57 AM
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I'll bet you $1 that this mode is tied to an online pass. Seriously, though, I hope they succeed at this. Sounds pretty glum, though. There's a weird trend right now of people thinking that they're forced to play something because there's achievements attached. Don't add more to the game! Don't add DLC! Don't add new modes! This trend needs to stop. If I don't like the co-op, I won't play it. They aren't on a tight budget. The inclusion of this mode won't take all of the resources away from the single player. The world won't end. Okay, maybe in the game it will...


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Comment #18 by JuanPabloSmoker
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:25:32 AM
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It's great that x360a can be (brutally) honest in their reviews.

When I first heard about the co-op, I thought it wouldn't be too great as mass effect is all about the characters with the shooty bits a nice bonus. We have gears of war, halo, COD etc for tight shooter experiences which is where most people will play their horde/firefight/zombies.

I'm glad to hear it's been handled by another studio and I just pray that this won't detract from the single player. But from this review it sounds like the space on the disc may already have been wasted


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Comment #19 by ViNyLek
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:25:49 AM
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Hah, like I could even consider Dan's opinion on anything ME. Someone else should be writing this, because I don't believe every single one of you think the same. Having said that, it does sound boring and I agree it's not really needed, but as you mentioned it's supposed to be horde mode. I don't recall any other horde mode relying heavy on briliant story telling and amazing set pieces....


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Comment #20 by Oultranator0731
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:26:00 AM
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Here's a question, If the Single player is as good as ME2 but the Multiplayer sucks when it's released, would the game get the same Review scores oe would the 'bonus' multiplayer negatively affect the reviews?


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Comment #21 by mjc0961
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:26:24 AM
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So basically it's the Arrival DLC but with some friends around. Seriously, I hated the Arrival DLC for the same reason: It was pretty much all combat with no meaningful squad interaction and only a few very small scraps of story.


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Comment #22 by Illicit
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:28:11 AM
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Not a fan of these Horde modes at all, very boring...will probably ignore it (or at the very least try it once or twice and then ignore it like I do with most horde modes).

Still looking forward to the game. Loved the first 2.


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Comment #23 by hotdogenigma
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:32:20 AM
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You know I wanted to give co-op a chance and maybe have Bioware redeem itself for "shoehorning" (love that analogy by the way) this crap into the game. But I'm no longer convinced. This game could have come out earlier and the co-op shit could be fused into further ME titles. Again, Bioware was most likely railroaded into adding this component as EA likes to force MP into games unnecessarily. All I want is a wicked ending to a great story (and no achievements associated with co-op).


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Comment #24 by mjc0961
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:32:34 AM
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@17: I agree. I am sick of people acting like they are entitled to the achievements in games and hate when they act like they've been majorly wronged because of a hard achievement or an achievement for a mode they don't want to play. The next time I hear someone whine about all the boosting/bot matches that they "have" to do to get Seriously 3.0 in Gears 3, for example, I'm going to slap them silly. They don't have to do anything, they choose to because they're achievement whores. They could choose to just forget it instead and be happy with 900/1,000, but instead they act like Epic screwed them over by including that achievement.

I like achievements too, but I think some people need to stop for a minute and remember why they used to play games before achievements and maybe realize what spoiled little fucknuggets they're acting like.


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Comment #25 by Vindicator51
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:33:08 AM
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Looks like this is indeed going to be a shameful addition to the Mass Effect 3 game.

I'm not surprised anyways.


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Comment #26 by TomatoJr.
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:41:01 AM
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@17 I HATE dlc with a passion. Barely any single player only is actually any good, let alone value for money. So please.. NO DLC.

Any form of multiplayer in ME was always gonna be shit. Been against since it was first rumoured, will not go near it even if i was given a million dolars. Fuck you EA. because you know its their fault. online pass. YAY!!!



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Comment #27 by Jesuit007
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:46:04 AM
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It can't be shoehorned by definition if it's done externally by a secondary team in addition to the single player game developed by Bioware.

Bioware isn't shoving it in the single player game, they just outsourced some other dudes to put in some co-op levels.



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Comment #28 by Stoko
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:05:24 PM
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@27 That's possibly the very reason it feels shoehorned in. I.e. feeling like it's out of place, feeling like something seperate and different that's out of place, which has been shoved (or wedged, or "shoehorned") into a game where it doesn't really fit.

Perhaps if it was made by the same studio it'd "fit" better. Of course then people would moan about the main studio "wasting time" on it, so I think overall they made the right choice on that one.


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Comment #29 by Saracin
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:09:54 PM
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I will play the coop, probably gonna have achievements linked to it, so it's gonna happen. But I'm betting this was made so they could include an Online Pass that needs to be redeemed to access the coop. I don't take issue with that, since I'll be buying the game, but more than likely that's one of the main reasons for it's creation.


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Comment #30 by Gentleman
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:10:00 PM
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Thank God I have friends to play this with!

Otherwise I would be complaining!


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Comment #31 by kulaid
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:28:52 PM
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so this is why my mass effect 3 got delayed....fuckin horde???


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Comment #32 by Ihazcandy4you
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:32:58 PM
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As much as people bitch about this, it's made ME3 go from 'pick up when I finish Zelda, batman, dark souls, reckoning and final fantasy 13' to 'pick up day one and delay getting a few of the others'...


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Comment #33 by Akatsuki Sw1tch
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:34:34 PM
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Another SINGLE PLAYER game that needs no mulitplayer whatsoever!

I wonder what other games get tainted by the MP virus next.


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Comment #34 by tazaf
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:36:31 PM
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Pretty disappointing... I was hoping for, at least, some story in this co-op. If it's all about arena and ennemys waves like the mega-ultra-boring Mad Moxxi's Underdome, i'm going to pass it. Well... I'll try it, but if it's really like that, I'm not going to force myself finishing it, that's for sure.


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Comment #35 by Opayk
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:42:56 PM
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Exactly, I'm glad someone said it. The gameplay in Mass Effect has always been a poor 3rd person shooter tacked on to a grandiose story. The sooner this trilogy is over the better, so that Bioware can move onto something different.


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Comment #36 by Space Cadet
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:56:48 PM
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Yet another variation of horde mode. It's like developers feel absolutely obliged to include that shit in every single game these days. Why no, it's not getting old and annoying at all, keep it up!


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Comment #37 by Katarn
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:06:25 PM
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i dis agree with this review. the combat is awesome


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Comment #38 by rrushn
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:07:50 PM
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Of all the co-op stuff, they HAD to pick the worst and most repetitive option: Horde

co-op achievements imminent... thanks alot Bioware.


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Comment #39 by AKirk93
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:08:28 PM
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Soulless,repetitive and boring, unfortunately these were the exact words I was expecting. Sad thing is, Bioware actually seemed kind of excited at the idea of co-op.


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Comment #40 by Infomouse
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:16:36 PM
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BioWare will soon realize why so many of us are attracted to their games, and why so many of us will hate them for this.


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Comment #41 by BBowles
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:41:04 PM
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Mass Effect 3 will still be primed for Game of the Year, with or without co-op. This will not detract from the game in any way, and as a fan of the combat in mass effect, this is a welcome add on. I AM KROGAN!


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Comment #42 by duvey42
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:59:04 PM
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So, does EA really think getting every gaming news site to write that Mass Effect's combat isn't as fun as Gears of War will convince more people to buy this game?

I hope they're right - if they can trick more people into experiencing ME's brilliant single player, that'd be great. I guess EA knows more about marketing than I do, but I don't see why this would convince anyone to buy this game.

(By the way, I enjoy ME's combat more than Gears, but the way I play doesn't translate to multiplayer - I spend way too much time with the power wheel open picking out my next target.)


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Comment #43 by Kerethos
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 02:01:32 PM
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Might be an amusing addition but, without story, I doubt it'll be something I'll be coming back for.


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Comment #44 by Rivercurse
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 02:04:05 PM
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#37 So where did you go hands on with this MP that was only announced 2 weeks ago?


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Comment #45 by Oultranator0731
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 02:16:01 PM
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#37 is purely on about Combat from ME2, he clearly hasn't played the MP on ME3 yet.

I don't understand why they just didn't do co-op in the 'Single player' - It would be great to play with a buddy or two in the main campaign.


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Comment #46 by AbOuT27nInJaS
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 02:47:39 PM
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I'll probably try it after the campaign... but I know it's going to be truly hated...


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Comment #47 by blacknight
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 03:01:35 PM
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The wife and I loved the first two and always wanted to play with each other. Hope this is a good addition to the game but either way neither will be playing this until we are finished with the campaign that should be awesome!


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Comment #48 by MakoBallistic
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 03:05:27 PM
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Sounds like i will be just as bored by this as i am by Horde mode in Gears 3.


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Comment #49 by THC BLUNTED
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 03:19:35 PM
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If this would of been in the first ME everyone probably would of loved it but the idea now is kinda burned out so I dont blame everyone for hating on it. It doesn't sound like the greatest addition to the franchise but more content is always welcome.

Personally if they added multiplayer it should be MMORPG style and that I would love.


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Comment #50 by EltonCat
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 03:22:27 PM
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I appreciate the honesty of the author, he calls the multiplayer "soulless" - exactly the same way I feel about Bioware Montreal's first effort, the Arrival-DLC.
Taking away what makes Mass Effect so great - story, characters, decisions, squadmates, etc. - is a very poor decision by Bioware and creates a pointless tacked-on mode.
Please don't include co-op achievements and I'll be happy that I won't be forced to play a mode I couldn't care less about.


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Comment #51 by MustaPastori
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 03:26:59 PM
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What? Tacked-on multiplayer mode is shallow and soulless? Who would've guessed?


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Comment #52 by LickableLemons7
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 04:36:52 PM
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So far, it seems...alright...


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Comment #53 by The Ju1ce
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 04:38:21 PM
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Just because an "entirely different studio" is being devoted to a co-op or multiplayer portion of a game doesn't mean they aren't taking away resources from the single player experience. That new studio could've been used to help improve the main campaign. In fact, that group of people may have even been part of the original team and then were selectively branched out to form a new multiplayer-only team. I just don't think the whole 'separate studio/team' argument is a good excuse for tacking on multiplayer to a traditionally single-player experience.


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Comment #54 by duvey42
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 04:53:16 PM
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@53 or that team could be making Jade Empire 2...

IMO, any Bioware employees put to work on a Horde mode could be doing something better. Of course, not all gamers avoid multiplayer like I do.


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Comment #55 by ThePumpkinKing
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 04:57:44 PM
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Is anyone really surprised that this is garbage? The Arrival was complete shit. And if this and that are any indication of what to expect from the game itself, well. So much for the afterglow. At this point, it could go either way. Which is too bad. Because the quality of the final installment shouldn't at all be in question here.


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Comment #56 by hotdogenigma
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 05:15:06 PM
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@32 I'm not sure what "this" your talking about? The way I read your statement says that "this" meaning the co-op, is making the game a day 1 purchase over other games. Co-op was and never will be the thing that makes people drop other games to purchase ME3 day 1. The games story line, in my opinion, will be the reason this is a day 1 buy. People bitch because this mode is a completely unnecessary addition to the series finale. Every fan wants to see a kick ass conclusion to the story, period! This is an RPG (well supposed to be) and not a shooter in which MP has become the norm.


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Comment #57 by YouWantMoore
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 05:43:13 PM
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I'll admit that Horde, Firefight, Nazi Zombies, etc., and any other holdout modes are fun with friends, or as long as you don't overplay them, but I would have thought that BioWare would have been able to deliver a more relevant co-op experience.


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Comment #58 by Vindicator51
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 06:19:00 PM
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Bioware seriously needs a wake up call, because they thought this was exciting news for ME3.

I sure hope more people have lost respect for them, because i know i can't speak for all the Bioware fans.


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Comment #59 by an7man
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 06:38:23 PM
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Thanks for the article Webb I needed to hear this from a fan's perspective. Though it would be hard to add what makes ME great into the multiplayer version.

Unless they added story based co-op missions that lead to the "horde" mode, that would be great. Nonetheless I'll be looking forward to this only for the customization but you didn't have time to get into that.


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Comment #60 by Kroesis
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 07:10:30 PM
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Well I hope they manage to address the issues highlighted and make the mode worth playing. It could be fun with some like minded friends but BioWare Montreal will have to make it engaging at the very least. Even though the single player only mode is the primary mode, this co-op is still Mass Effect, so I expect a certain amount of quality, despite it being made by a new studio.


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Comment #61 by cameronlemon97
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 07:12:49 PM
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looking forward to being able to play this. it's gonna be fun playing as a non-human race for once and anything that helps with single-player will be awesome


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Comment #62 by CoffeeAddict5
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 07:38:33 PM
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Does anyone know if doing the co-op gain any advantages in the single player campaign? Can the money earned be used in single player? I'd like some incentive to play it the same way mining all those planets gave back something. That shit would have been usless if it couldn't be used for upgrades.


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Comment #63 by Dark Knight1990
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 09:38:27 PM
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You'd think that EA would have taken a hint from how poorly Dead Space 2's MP did. Sure it has a cult following that plays it semi-regularly, but lets be honest... it failed. A game like Mass Effect would need a serious overhaul to truly capture its essence in a multiplayer experience. I'll reserve my final judgement until release, but needless to say I'm not expecting much.


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Comment #64 by PBALL
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 10:25:41 PM
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As long as there's no multiplayer achievements, I'll be happy. I hate those damn things.


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Comment #65 by Blue Thunder28
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 10:44:27 PM
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Was coping they'd be more like flashpoints from SW:TOR but Horde still sounds good to me. I just want to play this already!


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Comment #66 by MoshFish
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 11:59:02 PM
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As other have said, as long as their aren't balls-up crazy achievement for the multiplayer (I'm looking at you, AC: brotherhood), then I don't see a big problem. Who knows, maybe playing with some good team mates, as a team, will make things fun.


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Comment #67 by aosiding
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 12:37:28 AM
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Since the fate of the universe is at stake, maybe they will let the main character engage in threesomes this time around? One can dream lol


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Comment #68 by TheUglyCasanova
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 12:46:54 AM
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Yeha figured the co-op and MP would suck. No big surprise there.

Glad I can rent it to finish out the story and never touch the stupid tacked on modes.


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Comment #69 by XSoldat13
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 01:00:11 AM
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It's funny that when someone offends ones dislikes or preferences, i.e. the reviewer, saying they'll like co-op, or just saying that it is overrated, they bring out the dislike hammer. So what if they say those things it's an opinion. If it is only a few people it won't affect your special series.

I for one think that the system or engine does not support co-op or multiplayer. I do like that they are trying though. I always wanted to see something like this but I didn't expect it to be in ME3 I was hoping it would be a separate installation so they could adapt the system or engine.

I just hope they don't botch the storyline. I want to see what keeping the reaper base would have helped or hindered Cerberus. There are also so many different possibilities. Three discs for Xbox? Four?


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Comment #70 by SzilardUK
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 02:09:08 AM
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ME multiplayer was always gonna be crap and unnecessary (something like Kinect control for Forza 4). Now it seems it will be an epic fail.


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Comment #71 by OutOfClues
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 02:25:43 AM
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I wasn't expecting this hands-on to turn out this bad... at first, it almost seemed to me like he was enjoying it. But I can see the problem here, I think everything boils down to "why would I want to play this Horde rip-off when I could enjoy the amazing single player campaign?".


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Comment #72 by PhoenixTemplar
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 02:37:05 AM
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Is it strange that I am kind of happy its not that good at this point? I feel like I shouldn't be, but at the same time, I feel validated in my intial scepticism that this mode was both unnecessary and (for most fans) completely unwanted.


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Comment #73 by Katarn84
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 05:26:22 AM
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Ah, guess what? ME Multiplayer is poor... WHO WOULD HAVE EVER GUESSED IT?


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Comment #74 by Damniel
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 08:14:03 AM
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This is exactly what I feared.

It sounds absolutely pointless, NO ONE plays Mass Effect for the combat. You play it for everything but, so why bother? I bet that EA have pushed for this because "all the biggest games have multiplayer and we have to be able to compete with the COD's of the world" well guess what? That's fucking bullshit.

I love the Mass Effect games so much and it seems like it somehow diminishes its prestige by having another tacked on multiplayer mode.I don't know why and it's pretty ridiculous but I feel almost offended that they've gone this route - it's not necessary, it's not wanted and it's not cool!


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Comment #75 by francisrossi
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 11:00:51 AM
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@45 - Putting co-op into the campaign would have broken the game. The power/weapon wheel would have to go if nothing else.

And yeah, I was expecting this to blow. BioWare's publicity has basically been an apology for putting MP into the game, and that we don't have to play it. Strange way of convincing us it's worth bothering with. Casey Hudson's opinion needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt too, as he's the guy in charge of the MP development team.


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Comment #76 by marchsilverfox
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 02:29:08 PM
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Mass Effect3 , cannot wait..... Multiplayer clearly not needed. Hope it does'nt spoil the game.


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Comment #77 by Darth Spectre
Saturday, October 29, 2011 @ 12:36:52 AM
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I never really liked the idea of a multiplayer mode. Mass Effect's greatest feature is the RPG elements, not the combat.


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Comment #78 by Kamonichan
Saturday, October 29, 2011 @ 04:22:58 AM
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It still irritates me that Bioware has already admitted that this mode affects the game in no way. It isn't needed to complete the story. It isn't needed to enjoy the campaign. It isn't needed to play the game, period. I'll have to wait until any and all DLC has come out, hoping against hope that they don't have any multiplayer achievements attached. Forcing myself to play through a mode I loathe will only taint the game experience as a whole.


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Comment #79 by xSavage Henry
Saturday, October 29, 2011 @ 04:07:17 PM
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This will be nothing more than a fail. Its just going to be full of glitches and now they have to reasons to come out with over priced dlc. Oh yeah new co-op map. $20. Alright new single player mission. $20. F*ck this sh*t. They aren't getting a dime from me. I will buy this game used for $20 if even at all.


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Comment #80 by L4D II JoK3r
Sunday, October 30, 2011 @ 05:36:33 PM
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I love mass effect, i think that the story should have 3 player co-op, main player (shepard) and your two friends bringing in their shepard in a sort of fable co-op way. Would make the game great fun, but as many people have already said, its an RPG... so it wont happen D:


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Comment #81 by Reckkful
Monday, October 31, 2011 @ 04:19:07 AM
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I never planned on going anywhere near this mode, even if it is good. Mass Effect has always been an amazing single player experience for me and I intend on keeping it that way.


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Comment #82 by Hunterking
Monday, October 31, 2011 @ 07:32:56 AM
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I agree with Comment 81 by Reckkful. This is such an epic story all made by you... You control the fate off all living creatures in the ME universe. Just thinking about playing the 3rd installment of this game gives me goosebumps :D... I think that this game(series) is my fav besides Final Fantasy 8...

No matter what unachievable achievemnts they put in here... I will conclude this epic story!


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Comment #83 by TrojanThighs
Monday, October 31, 2011 @ 05:43:25 PM
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Yep @81 I totally agree - got so emotionally involved at the end of 2 that there is no way I won't be obsessed with this on release. This is possibly the only game series where I might consider the bells and whistles version on the day of release - best make sure I have another go on the first two to whet my appetite in the month leading up!


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Comment #84 by Reckkful
Monday, October 31, 2011 @ 08:03:28 PM
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@83

I got emotional at the end of the first and second. Words cannot describe the love I have for the Mass Effect series. I've been playing video games for 14 years and no game even comes close to the perfection that is Mass Effect 2. Just talking about it makes me want to go play it all over again. I've lost count how many times I've beaten both games and fully intend on making a perfect play through in February 2012.


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Comment #85 by Priestyboy
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 08:46:33 AM
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this game like all bioware games will be awsome keep em coming fellers!!!


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Comment #86 by Yummipoptarts
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 08:52:09 AM
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Best of both worlds IMHO ....


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Comment #87 by daroou
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 01:53:43 PM
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i wonder how it still won't impact single player experience.
main dev team will still have to integrate this part during development phase, it will take disk space which could have been available for the single player campaign and i forget many other reasons


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Comment #88 by Tai_MT
Wednesday, November 02, 2011 @ 12:47:02 PM
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A cooperative feature for the final installment of a singleplayer franchise? It sucks? REALLY? /end sarcasm

Whomever didn't see this coming is a complete idiot. We all knew it was going to suck, we all know it will suck on release date. Unless it's a reliable way to stockpile cash for Mass Effect 3 (like the second game was missing... and desperately needs, because there's lots of stuff you have to SKIP if you want any kind of upgrades for your guns at all), there's no point to playing it.


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Comment #89 by Subliminal52
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 05:41:06 PM
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ftr ME doesn't need online co-op to have an online pass. Remember the cerebrus network? the 1200 point "pack" that simply gave you access to the DLC. Hmmm...maybe they just want to make an immersive single player with an added bonus of being able to play the game with your friends. And ROFL @ it taking up space on the disc. cause games totally have a problem with releasing multiple disc games, oh wait, Dead Space 2 - 2 discs, Battelfield 3 - 2 discs. ME2- 2 discs. FF13 - 3 discs. the list goes on and on. Quit crying about EXTRA shit in games that doesn't effect the single player at all. DLC is pro, its one of the many reasons that I SWEAR by XBOX360 rather than PS3. fanboys have to understand that regardless of anything, gaming companies are out to make money in any way whatsoever. And all I'm sayin is hate on EA if you want, but they wouldn't be a massive giant in gaming if it wasn't for the GOOD games they release, and aside from their sports servers, they have the best online multiplayer experience of any gaming company.


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Comment #90 by Warrdean
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 11:18:49 AM
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i dont really care about the co-op portion of this game, frankly, i wont be happy if it has achievements attached to doing it. but as for this games in general and the single player ... i can not wait!


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Comment #91 by Banedain
Tuesday, November 08, 2011 @ 07:48:57 AM
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Maybe if we are lucky the characters we create in this multiplayer will be the new characters in Mass Effect 4 they say this is the last of Shepards story (so now you can die at the end and say, Yeah saw that coming) ...
PS no offense but some off you are really dense they have like six articles before this one saying the multiplayer is being made by a DIFFERENT GROUP as in NOT BIOWARE as in IT WILL NOT DELAY THE GAME or TAKE AWAY FROM THE SINGLEPLAYER WHATSOEVER unless you play it then you get goodies in the singlplayer IT CANNOT NEGATIVLey affect the singlplayer


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Comment #92 by TurMoiL911
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 01:21:44 AM
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"For those not up to date on Mass Effect 3’s co-op, in a nutshell, it'll have you and three mates battling it out against 11 waves of varying foes in key strongholds across the galaxy to assist Shepard in his war against the Reapers."

So it's just like the other Horde/Firefight/Zombie Mode getting tacked on every game these days?


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Comment #93 by OhSoRandomJoe
Sunday, November 13, 2011 @ 10:17:05 AM
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I was on a super Mass Effect high, all excited for this gripping series where what I did in the last game affected my next game. To bad that was all a load of hogwash. My choices affect the game barely, if at all even. The only big effects I can think of is who is alive and who dies. Yeah, that's not enough. I was seriously expecting the world to really shape around me from all those little quests I did, whether it meant some half-beat gang would come back to help me out or seek revenge, or whether some scientist that I saved (or didn't) would help me locate a weakness in the Reapers (or maybe he couldn't, because he died). Then, i was just disappointed in Mass Effect 2's skill system, I loved ME1's so much better! Either way, adding unnecessary co-op to a game that really, REALLY didn't need it, was insult to injury, and I gave up on the ME series.


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Comment #94 by Ethereal235
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 09:02:07 AM
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I was hoping/planning to ignore it, but I have all achievements in the first two ME games, and I'm planning to 100% this one too, so I'm just hoping they don't force me to play a shitload of annoying co-op for any achievements. Dead Space 2 didn't have any co-op achievements, so maybe there's hope...


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Comment #95 by MERCENARIO PT
Sunday, February 12, 2012 @ 03:52:52 PM
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A cooperative feature for the final installment of a HUGE franchise COOL


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