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|Comment #1 by Diamond IV |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 05:36:54 AM
|I need something while I wait for mass effect 3 |
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|Comment #2 by Fang Foom |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 05:51:43 AM
After playing the epic Dragon Age Origins and all the DLC in one go, after getting DA2, I yearned for lots of DLC!
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|Comment #3 by KNIGHTOFSERA |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:01:24 AM
|By that I hope they mean "were sorry for only making 5 dungeon designs and pAssing them off as 50 different areas" because I better not see one repeated dungeon in this dlc |
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|Comment #4 by Nihilus6 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:04:36 AM
|it was innovative? |
did i play the wrong game?
how is playing the same fucking location over and over innovative?
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|Comment #5 by bloodswan |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:15:46 AM
|I would have liked to have held onto this game but having done 3 full playthroughs and not unlocking the 2 playthrough achievement I gave up on 1080. |
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|Comment #6 by Pooly93 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:16:55 AM
|Now lets just wait for their next costume pack or whatever other shit they can pass off as 'quality DLC'. |
I really enjoyed DA2, but after that first playthrough I got barely into a second one and lost interest, its just not as interesting to me as DA:O, here's hoping the new DLC is something decent to get me back into it for a while.
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|Comment #7 by daviduk2000 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:21:13 AM
| "Maybe they were looking for more of the same, and it was different and innovative in ways they weren't expecting." |
LOL just LOL. they didnt Innovate. they Rushed the game. the ONLY improvements were. combat, the dialogue system and graphics.
it was a lousy dissapointment of a game. made even more dissapointing by the fact it was the sequel to one of the Greatest games iv ever played.
But saying that if this DLC can truly appease to the fan comments then im going to give it a try.
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|Comment #8 by Phenoviral |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:47:54 AM
|God. I was planning to get a Gold membership this summer, but.. |
I've got DLC to get for Dragon Age 1, got to finish Dragon Age 1, got to buy and finish Drago Age 2, got DLC to pick up for Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, got Dead Space 2 DLC, and that Dragon Age armour for Mass Effect 2, considering I wasn't able to log on to live and use my code that I got with Dragon Age Origins.
Here's to hoping it rains a lot in Ireland this summer.
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|Comment #9 by HammersMark |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 06:57:40 AM
|My copy of DA2 needs dusting off, bring on the DLC. Hopefully some new plot twists and characters and darkspawn, lots of darkspawn. |
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|Comment #10 by II griever II |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 07:25:29 AM
|About time! |
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|Comment #11 by PickVanCleef |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 07:39:38 AM
|@4 completely agree....so linear it's ridiculous...but according to the developers night counts as more areas...no it doesn't....it's the same bloody area at night! :/ |
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|Comment #12 by ronburgundyIIII |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 07:57:19 AM
|dragon age is dead to me. ill forgive EA if battlefield destroys COD. |
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|Comment #13 by MakoBallistic |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 07:58:55 AM
|The first bored me to death, despite my high expectations, which is why i never bothered with the 2nd one. By the looks of peoples comments on here i made the right choice. |
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|Comment #14 by soadkenjos |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:01:48 AM
|@8 Plenty of rain in Ireland, don't worry, tis pissing outta the heavens there now !!! |
Looking forward to this DLC, having Dragon Age withdrawals :-)
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|Comment #15 by gerowniko |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:07:53 AM
|I'm pretty much done with BioWare. All they care about is money. I know I am going to get thumbed down for this but I feel this has to be said, yes the Mass Effect series is great and yes they've made some of the greatest RPG's. However, since they joined EA they've never been quite the same, every time they are interviewed they are lying about their core fans still being pleased and how they are trying to appeal to a wider audience (for more money obviously), they somehow think or let us think that it's possible to appeal and please both newcomers as die-hard fans. It might be possible, but not the way do it, they removed most of the things that made Dragon Age: Origins so great and then replaced them with linear, boring, action-packed gameplay, serving who? Yes it may have been a commercial succes but this statement: "Critically it's been successful with a lot of new fans, and many of the old fans" is a blatant lie. If you look at the die-hard fans, the old fans, for example on the BioWare forums you'll see how much they hate the fact they turned Dragon Age 2 into trash. |
Mass Effect 2 was a lot less RPG than Mass Effect 1 was, but it still was a great game. I'm fearing they are continuing the trend of Dragon Age 2 with Mass Effect 3. Why? Because they no longer seem to care about their products, or their fans! They only care for commercial success. Just look at the setting for Mass Effect 3, Earth. Will there still be time for interesting, emotional and intelligent dialog? Will you still be able to explore other planets and do lots of side quests? I fear not. From what they've shown so far, it seems like it's going to be full-on action with sporadically elements of dialog. I see lots of people here excited about Mass Effect 3, and that is your right, but please don't just follow BioWare like sheep and believe everything they say. I used to be a hardcore fan of them, but not anymore, I'm totally done with them. They have become a total sell-out.
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|Comment #16 by Earth Djinn |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:11:58 AM
|I hope DA3 is way closer to DAO in terms of content and gameplay. |
Although, I loved the combat animations of DA2 but I cant see them getting rid of those so I'm all good.
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|Comment #17 by maniac2k5 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:42:04 AM
|I think making Dragon Age 'appeal to a wider audience' was how they ended up making this mess of a game in the first place. That and completely rushing it, of course. |
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|Comment #18 by maniac2k5 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:45:00 AM
|@15 - Couldn't agree more with you. And the fact that all the action on Earth they've talked about and shown off is in this super-modern Vancouver city place just seems even more like Kirkwall to me. I want to be excited for ME3, but they aren't remotely close to the devs they once were. |
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|Comment #19 by ea86 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 08:56:00 AM
|"[...]it was different and innovative in ways they weren't expecting." |
Wow... I want some of the kool-aid these guys have been drinking. Dragon Age 2 was a rushed mess, I'm not expecting the quality of the DLC to be any better.
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|Comment #20 by wxJimG |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:00:48 AM
|It could have been way more immersive if only the locations hadn't been recycled so damn much! I'm ok with the changes in some of the gameplay, and I can understand a dev/pub wanting to appeal to a wider audience, but an RPG should be immersive, and we I've walked into the same damn dungeon, mansion, or house for the 50th time and I'm not even halfway through the game, then the immersion is blown all to hell. |
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|Comment #21 by gerowniko |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:03:07 AM
|@#17 & #18 Totally agree. Such a shame. :( |
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|Comment #22 by Nei Debrusc |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:11:04 AM
|Wow, what a condescending ass. Old fans didn't like it because it was "innovative?" Really? Don't you mean, they didn't like that you made Dragon Effect I instead of Dragon Age II? A complete reboot is the only way I'm ever going to play another Dragon Age game. |
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|Comment #23 by THE TERMIN8TOR |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:31:25 AM
|How is "different and innovative" using the same locations over and over and over again. bioware + DA2 = EPIC FAIL! |
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|Comment #24 by The Elite Elite |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:36:39 AM
|I have to ask all those who complain about fighting in the same half dozen areas throughout the game a question. (And I am not being sarcastic or being an ass in any way with this question, so please do not take it that way) What did you expect? We were told the whole game would be taking place in and around one single location, Kirkwall. There are going to be only so many different areas in one single location, so I was not surprised by raiding through the same house or cave three different times per playthrough. Again, I am not trying to be an ass or anything like that, I am genuinely curious as to why so many of you seemed to think there were going to have been a bunch of unique areas for each and every quest. |
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|Comment #25 by Spanish Assault |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:36:42 AM
|My ears are perked...I'll be interested in this DLC... |
Honestly, if you guys dislike the game why are you posting on here? Go be grumpy somewhere else.
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|Comment #26 by alklein35 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:39:56 AM
|@13 If you didnt like the first you should try the second. They're very different, and 2 isnt a full RPG, hence why lots of people complained about. It didn't seem rushed to me - copied areas doesn't mean rushed - but in this series they're different enough that an opinion on is often different than your opinion on the other |
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|Comment #27 by strawberry |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:50:36 AM
|I swear, dragon age 3 better make up for the garbage that they released with this game, because origins is too good of a game to be followed up by this. |
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|Comment #28 by Nei Debrusc |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 09:54:58 AM
|@25 Personally, I'm posting because I love the Dragon Age franchise with the exception DA2. So love it or hate it, gotta represent, yo. (bad gangsta accept) Fo' shizzle, dawg. |
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|Comment #29 by Ihazcandy4you |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 10:00:04 AM
|maybe people will stop crying now... |
Checked the responses, HAH! silly me.
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|Comment #30 by Swegabe |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 10:36:51 AM
|There is nothing innovative with recycling the same areas over and over again and use copy/paste for dungeons. |
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|Comment #31 by Arenazombie |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 10:39:25 AM
|appealing to a wider audience = more simple, less content and in a lot of cases tagged on multiplayer. Reading this whole "appealing to a wider audience" phrase makes me want to puke. |
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|Comment #32 by Lord Montymort |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 10:51:39 AM
|So is the next add-on going to fix the game so that I can actually continue my playthough with my female Hawke who has Merill as her love interest. Because as it is, Merill's quest-line is that broken that there is no point in her even been in the game, which is a same because she is one of the few characters in DAII that I actually liked. |
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|Comment #33 by Opiate42 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 11:05:28 AM
|Nice, was waiting for this! |
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|Comment #34 by BlindGuardian21 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 11:49:47 AM
|I'm shocked with how much DLC Origins pushed out that there isn't even one for DA2 yet. No the weapons packs don't count as real DLC IMHO. The load of crap this guy is trying to push on us could crush and elephant. |
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|Comment #35 by Xynical |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 11:53:48 AM
|Waaah waaah waaah Dragon Age II didn't live up to my expectations and now I'm going to whine about it like an entitled bitch. |
Seriously, I loved DA2 more than DAO, which just felt like a slog at times. The combat, quest lines, story, all felt better (and more personal in the case of the story). Yeah the dungeons were copypasted but you know what? That shouldn't matter. I'm willing to forgive that if it means improvement in other areas. Why can't you all? Oh, right, entitlement, I forgot.
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|Comment #36 by hotdogenigma |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 12:11:30 PM
|@3 wow what a bold comment, you've got me shaking in my boots! Please lord I hope I never cross you in a dark alley! |
@15 really you need to comment on how a business is in it for the money. Here's an idea, how about you start a business, any kind, but for shits and giggles make it a video game devloping company. Hire a bunch of creative and talented people, create some sweet games and absorb all of the costs yourself. Then pass it along to the consumers for a modest profit. See how long that will tie you over. You'll inevitably feel the need to spend more and then sell more to make more. It's called economics, I certainly wouldn't expect you to understand. Businesses also try to do somethings different, do you honestly want the same game in DA2 than the first? I love ME. I loved ME2 even more because it did something different.
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|Comment #37 by Dragon Nexus |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 12:22:28 PM
|Dragon Age Origins was a nice call back to Bioware's traditional RPGs. It was somewhat complex, strategic, and very role play heavy. |
Dragon Age 2 felt like trying to pander to the EA crowd. Blood, gore, violence, sex and no complicated plot to worry about getting in the way of the hacky slashy action.
And I'm sorry but, "Maybe they were looking for more of the same, and it was different and innovative in ways they weren't expecting." or maybe you stripped out the feeling of adventure and grandeur from Dragon Age 1, stuffed us in repeating dungeons, gave us fewer choices and a story that as a whole felt completely inconsiquential.
AND you ruined Anders.
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|Comment #38 by Spanish Assault |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 12:22:43 PM
|@36 You sir should win an award for breaking down such a simple concept...we all complain about DLC (wheather it be price or that the game just came out and now it has DLC) but trying to get people to understand that BIOWARE is a BUSINESS and business' try and MAKE MONEY!!! |
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|Comment #39 by gerowniko |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 01:03:29 PM
|@#36 First of all, there is no need for this downgrading tone. |
Of course I understand BioWare is a business. But I also think video games are a form of art, in fact, they even said that themselves. Now when it comes to art, there is this difference between underground and main stream. BioWare started up in what we could consider underground, meaning they focused on the love of the game, trying to create a new franchise, getting new fans. Of course, they worked hard on it and it had to pay off eventually so a profit should be made and obviously was made. All fine, as a consumer I gladly bought both the game and the DLC. Then part 2 is made, still a great game, trying to reach for a broader audience with the result of becoming more main stream, meaning an even bigger commercial success, but I'm fine with it, since it still was a great game. However, what Dragon Age 2 shows and basically every recent interview with BioWare, they now only care about the money and no longer about their die-hard fans, all at the cost of quality. Less content for more sales, less quality for more fans, less RPG for more action. This is the very thing that is wrong with most things in the entertainment industry today. Art should not be reviewed as just a business, like a company for drinks for example. Art shouldn't be made for mass production, for the widest audience possible and that's the very thing BioWare is trying to do right now. If I were to be an artist, my goal would not be to make as much money as possible, my goal would be to please my fans, something BioWare clearly is no longer aiming for, or at least not the kind of fans that made them big in the first place. They will make profits anyhow, so why not stay true to the original fans and keep their games stand out from other games that could hardly be considered as art?
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|Comment #40 by Loveless |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 01:25:45 PM
|Having a business myself I have to agree in part with the argument of trying to make $ but at the same time if you look @ the incredible amount of fans of the first game that venomously dislike DA2 you have to realize it wasn't a good move. How many of us are no longer going to support bioware now because of this game? I know I will NOT buy another game from them, I might gamefly ME3 but after the changes to 2 and now the cluster $*@/$ that is DA2 I won't be a return customer of theirs and the is no way I can justify recommending one of their games unless it is an old one. Smart business says you have to keep your old customers while bringing in new ones. By cutting corners in the game (it shouldn't be the exact same dungeon when I enter the mountain or when I enter a "cave" under the city) and literally dumbing down the aspects of the game that the majority (check the messageboards across the net before you comment) of the fans of the first one liked for the sake of appeasing to a select margin of new casual gamers they made a bad business decision. I have been a gamer for a loooonnnngggg time (I still have my original plug in pong and my comidor 64 if that helps) and am really disappointed to see company's and gamers focus more on flash in the pan graphics and mind numbing dumbed down gameplay and stories as a success than actually praise something that is a quality product. Focus on the story, real character development (just because you can have a same sex relationship doesn't mean it is good character development, flush out the character and make me want to care about them) and solid game mechanics. I want rpg elects on my rpg, da2 was just the brave fencer musashi of the current gen. If I want to play a hack and slash I will pick up something like Dante's Inferno not something that was billed as a successor to one of the few good modern rpgs. Regardless here is to hoping they actually listen to the fans and put out something quality and not the "bubblegum POP" of the videogame world. Sorry for the long post :) |
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|Comment #41 by Magicman10893 |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 01:51:56 PM
We're not mad that we have to revisit locations, we're mad that ALL the areas are the same, despite supposedly being different locations. The brothel and Bartrand's mansion have the same layout, wallpaper, floor tiles, carpet, bedroom layouts, etc. The cave in the side of the mountain and the two or three caves on the beach have the exact same layout, with the exact same enemy encounters in the same exact spots with the same exact mine cart in the exact same place with the exact same chests and crates in the exact same structures. By the third playthrough I had gone through the same cave layout for the 53rd time.
The enemies are all exactly the same, and the encounters all play out the exact same way. Group of mercenaries/Darkspawn/Skeletons/Qunari are in front of you. You kill half the group and then twice as many phase into existence behind you. You kill them, second wave of reinforcements drop from the god damn sky in the middle of the chaos. It would've been different if they would actually jump down from a window, or come from a room that you haven't been to yet or something instead of FALLING FROM THE MOTHERFUCKING SKY!!!!
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|Comment #42 by gerowniko |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 01:53:55 PM
|@#40 Well said, agreed. I'm hoping they have learned their lesson from the Dragon Age 2 fan reception, but judging by these kind of interviews, I doubt it. :( |
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|Comment #43 by Floodclaw |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 02:18:21 PM
|I like Dragon Age II. |
I also liked Dragon Age: Origins.
I enjoy Mass Effect and its sequel.
I look forward to this DLC.
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|Comment #44 by Erunion |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 02:21:09 PM
|Spin, spin, spin that disappointment! |
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|Comment #45 by hotdogenigma |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 02:21:52 PM
|@38 haha thanks! Honestly I can understand the consumer's complaint about the cost of games/DLC but it's a fact of life. Inflation is a fact of life, the price of games will not go down, just like gasoline...it will not go down to say the prices in the 90's. It sucks, get over it. |
@39 my apologies, I can understand your point, but at the same time I disagree. Video games as art, ok I'll give you that one. But don't you think artists try different things? A prime example are musicians. You fall in love with an album, they do well. Their next one however, well they try something different and people do not like the album. I understand, we've all been there. However, as an artist they try to branch out, get creative rather than putting out the same old stuff album after album (which we've seen with many pop groups). I commend Bioware for trying something different. Here's the kicker, I've never played DA:O or 2. I would love to as I have mad love for ME. I've heard a lot of complaints about ME2's gameplay (mineral scanning comes to mind), or lack of RPG modding. Yes they tried something different, and I enjoyed it. I think Bioware tried something different for their current fans, but also to garner more fan support. Why not? Even an artist (of paintings) may want to try something to appeal to a wider range of art lovers.
Anyways, we can just agree to disagree. I think you have a point and that's what these forums are for. But business is still business. You said your goal wouldn't be to make as much money as you can, but rather please your fans. I think that's a grand idea. But realistically do you think that will happen? I say, play the games you enjoy, don't play the ones you don't enjoy. All developers have something we like and hate, experimentation is how we get great games on the market.
Damn my fingers hurt :)
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|Comment #46 by wariowarrior |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 03:10:09 PM
|I didn't like Origins but loved DA2. Really looking forward to the DLC and hope it is substantial. I got annoyed with the repeating locales and some mindless side quests but on the whole found the game extremely enjoyable. |
In terms of Bioware has a company I think they have brought deep well thought out universes, a dialogue system that even Final Fantasy is taking on board - in some decree and support the games post release better than anybody with DLC. Maybe Gearbox challenges them a bit with Borderlands. They also listen to feedback from the most important people. Us.
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|Comment #47 by WhatLiesUnder |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 03:25:15 PM
|The worst part of the whole situation with DA: 2 is that today a lot of what makes up video games sales is the "Casual Gamer" Bioware is trying to "Branch out" to. Notice that some of the most popular music albums of today are people like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears who release close to the same thing over and over again with repetitive lyrics and beats. For me, and most fans of DA: O, the best parts of the game were the thick skill trees. the "Clunky and Confusing" menus, the complexion and variety of areas and just how deep the tactical and real Role-Playing Elements were. Unfortunately, in our society today, the people that actually want a complex and true RPG are most likely going to lose out more and more because of all the "Casual Gamers." Although there still are some companies, like Bethesda, that don't spend all their time dumbing down their games because they know there true fan base will support them even more then the causal gamers would. With DA: 2, Bioware rushed the level design and RPG elements, and spent much too much time on things like Dialogue and "Story Elements", which although both were great advancements, they didn't need to take out so much of the RPG aspects and recycle the same dungeon 53 times. I mean look at the success of Mass Effect 1 and DA: O. Was it really necessary to take what made those games so special away? They couldn't have just kept most of that in and added all the dialogue and better story on top of it? |
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|Comment #48 by gerowniko |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 03:28:06 PM
|@#45 I'm all for innovating gameplay and keep experimenting. And Mass Effect 2 is a perfect example of a game pleasing both the more die-hard fans as well as newcomers, they still delivered a quality product even though their goals changed significantly. |
But innovation is not always done right. Dragon Age 2 is the perfect example of this, in fact, as other people pointed out, it should not be called innovation, because it isn't innovating things, just changing things, dumbing everything down. I've played and absolutely loved Dragon Age: Origins, really one of the best games this century. I can't say the same about Dragon Age 2 though, that game is nowhere near the quality of Dragon Age: Origins. If I didn't play DA2, I would probably still have lots of faith in BioWare, despite all these somewhat controversial remarks in these interviews, simply because they haven't disappointed me before (except for certain DLC :p)
But DA2 definitely was an eye-opener. Sure, if they would acknowledge they made the game totally wrong, messed with the wrong elements, then I would have much more faith in BioWare. But they don't, they pretend it was a great game with minor flaws. The entire game was flawed when compared to the first one.
So the big question is, how will Mass Effect 3 end up? From what I've seen so far, they've added some great new things (extended RPG elements), but at the same time I also fear this will be the worst in the series because everything suggests the focus will mainly lay on the action, which is most definitely not the reason I play Mass Effect. I'm waiting for more details/videos about the game before I'm placing my pre-order. If they never released Dragon Age 2 I would have pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 in a heartbeat, but now I'm doubting everything BioWare says, not just because they have disappointed me, but they lied and keep lying as well. BioWare used to be my favorite game company, not anymore.
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|Comment #49 by Spanish Assault |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 03:28:50 PM
|@45 Honestly Prices have remained the same for a while now...I remember pay $50 for Double Dragon for the NES and that was over 20 years ago. |
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|Comment #50 by Peeblo |
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 03:35:39 PM
|Well... I'm just gonna wait for another "Ultimate Edition." :) |
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|Comment #51 by Xynical |
Saturday, June 18, 2011 @ 01:58:50 AM
|Allow me to clarify my earlier statements. |
I was someone who just couldn't wrap my head around Origins's complicated skill trees, inventory management, crafting (which I largely didn't touch at all) and that's just off the top of my head. Perhaps this makes me one of those so-called "casual gamers" you all seem to have such a distaste for.
When DA2 came around, the redesigned skill trees and menus made something click for me. I actually had a handle on my abilities this time around and felt like I could do something more with my abilities than just have them sitting there taking up space (I think Pinning Shot and Arrow of Slaying were the only two abilities my rogue archer ever got any use out of in Origins, and I largely let the party members do their own thing) Hell, I even got a handle on the tactical menu in 2, something I didn't dare touch in Origins.
Yes, I played Origins on the easiest setting, and bumped it up to Normal on 2. If that makes me a "casual gamer" so be it. Call me a heathen. Call me a pleb. But I enjoyed DA2 and got a great experience out of it, whereas you lot spent anywhere from 20 to 50 hours ostensibly hating every second if your comments are to be believed. Who won out in the end? :)
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|Comment #52 by Devil Sora |
Saturday, June 18, 2011 @ 02:08:32 AM
|Finally support for this game, my coworkers have all traded it in because of the lack of support. . . come on Bioware I know you have an ace in the hole! |
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|Comment #53 by vaughny_69 |
Saturday, June 18, 2011 @ 02:34:18 AM
|@15, haha i totally just logged in to thumbs up your comment :P |
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|Comment #54 by Pieville |
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 12:24:18 AM
|I've been waiting for DLC for this for ages. |
Dragon Age 2 is such a great game.
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|Comment #55 by The_Prodigy |
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 12:32:52 PM
|@15 & 18 mass effect 3 is getting the da2 treatment they already said its gonna combine the best of both games this there second playthroughs will be worth while the leveling systems gonna be a more advanced version from me1 but the gameplay will still be as good me2 or better. there taking the best and making it better.. now as for dao da2.. personally i played dao and its story was good but the gameplay couldn't catch me and the leveling system i didnt really care for either (it might just because its made for pc and i don't normally play pc games unless its civ 5 or perfect world. da2 gameplay and leveling i liked but story lacked and the level design as well.. and i hate that theres no playthrough.. now idk who told the person that wrote this article that game is liked but bioware even said on an interview i believe that was either on g4 or on machinama that they know people are disappointed and they also realize this was not good as the first. |
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|Comment #56 by JimmyHood |
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 01:00:20 PM
|Dragon Age:Origins was epic. |
"Before us stands the might of the darkspawn horde! Gaze upon them now! But fear them not! For Ferelden! For the Grey Warden!"
Dragon Age 2 is "Oh yeah i'm going to resolve Kirkwall problems." Uao...
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|Comment #57 by Wicelow |
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 10:55:25 AM
|5 new achievements, 120 points added. |
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|Comment #58 by randallm33 |
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 02:07:47 PM
|@57 - Just noticed my Xbox profile is updated to reflect that total. |
The achievements are:
Conductor 30gs - Defeat an ancient evil in the Vimmark Mountains.
Deep Roads Safari 15gs - Kill a genlock, genlock alpha, hurlock alpha, bronto, and deepstalker in the Vimmark Mountains.
Family Legacy 30 gs - Apply three effects to Hawke's Key.
Family Outing 15 gs - Complete the main quest in the Vimmark Mountains with Bethany or Carver in the party.
Tower Sweeper 30 gs - Complete every side quest in the Vimmark Mountains prison tower.
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|Comment #59 by texasgoldrush |
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:24:28 PM
|Wow....fans are just dumb. |
Dragon Age Origins is a highly OVERRATED game. Not only was the story extremely generic as well as unfocused, the characters were all one dimensional KOTOR or Jade Empire clones, except for Leliana and Wynne. Not only were they shallow, there backstories play no real role in the story. All DAO was is kill the orcs, just LOTR with gore. Then the gameplay is broken and unbalanced. Far to easy to break the game and suck the challange out of it.
DA2 on the other hand has its share of flaws, like the recycled dungeons and the lack of polish, however, the game is simply not just better written than the first game, but the plot is far more complex and thought provoking and the characters are far more multidimensional and complex. The friendship/rivalry system is much better as well where you can harden almost anyone. Not only that the skill leveling system was far smarter as well. The only dumbed down aspect is really the crafting system.
@37 ...no complicated plot? Wow. Its actually the most complicated plot Bioware has written since Baldur's Gate II. It actually requires you to pay attention, unlike the shallow DAO.
@15 Lets base your opinions on untrue speculation now. It is confirmed that Shepard will visit EVERY HOMEWORLD FOR ALL THE MAJOR SPECIES. Not only that, they have less squadmates SO THEY CAN HAVE DEEPER STORYLINES FOR THEM. Try speculating from facts now.
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|Comment #60 by Kerethos |
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 04:54:11 PM
|Origins – a game I've played through far too many times by now – has many flaws, some of which were addressed in DA2. However, the high level of REPLAYABILITY – that made Origins great – was lost when they decided to do a more focused story. |
I think DA2 has a good story, on a subject that's more interesting than just killing darkspawn before they kill everyone. But since Origins let us finish each Mainquest and a few sidequests in different ways, a lot of people, myself included, feel that DA2 didn't live up to the standard set by DA:O.
Crudely put: Choice became limited to how you fight, and who you kill – but didn't really affect the story. That said, DA2 still did a lot of things right.
The combat is fun and responsive, cross class combos make teamwork essential (at least on higher difficulties), and companions exclusive talent trees adds more value to each of them. Even the concept of waves was good, but the implementation was often poor (read: “Why is it raining bandits?”) and every enemy mage teleports, even though the lore in the game say’s it’s impossible.
The area recycling was used in Origins as well, but they took it too far in DA2, since they only had 2 caves and used them in almost every sidequest.
And the companion characters are good, and no longer look just like enemies in a fight – though you don’t get to spend as much time getting to know them as you did in Origins – so they don’t reach the same level.
It’s also a shame that they chose to make use of ME2’s least liked change; to not let players equip companions with armor, given that there are many ways to let them maintain a unique look and still let the players chose what armor they wear.
Just to mention a few things – I’ve got quite the list :P
But, as I said, DA2 got the most important thing wrong – because it barley let us shape the story and instead let us shape Hawke. And that choice to limit story altering choices to about 2 (bring your sibling to the deep roads or not, and who to side with in the end) is, what I felt, made DA2 a disappointment in comparison to DA:O.
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|Comment #61 by EternalFreya |
Monday, June 27, 2011 @ 05:15:00 PM
|@ 53, i did the same too with #15. |
I love playing DAO, even DAA (DragonAge Awakening and DA2.
I just wish they kept, (in DA2), the romance parts the same as it was in DAO and not just one part here, the other bit there if u get things right and then if that character stays with you till the end you get the last part there which is what? just a kiss...
I look forward to the DLC, just as long as it has meaning to DA2 and not just some random thing they just threw together in hopes that it will make some sense because they think that everyone who played DA2 has played DAO.
(Still think they should do a DLC about Fenris, like his story up until he meets Hawke).
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|Comment #62 by Redwnf |
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 12:19:22 PM
|LOL, love the chatter in this thread so much, I skipped most of it. |
I loved the hell out of DA:O. Was really only disappointed by the length of DA2. I guess because I still haven't gotten around to playing the Mass Effect games, I can't compare DA2 to ME, so I can't whine and bitch that DA2 is like it, and can enjoy the game for what it is; DA2.
I've completed the game 4 times, and am still playing again; and not just because I don't have all the achievements yet. I take breaks now and then to play LA Noire, Bioshock, and some others, but usually find my way back to DA2 within a couple of days. I like the land, I like the stories, I like the characters, and I'm one of those weird ones that enjoyed seeing Alistair again.
Maybe there's something I'm missing. But, I pre-ordered DA2. I bought the multi-item pack on day one. I will buy all DLC on day one until they quit putting it out. Then I will continue the trend and buy DA3 if/when it comes out. I'm captured by the story being played out, and the land(s) it is being played in. As long as the game(s) stay playable, and they don't completely fuck up the characters and the story; I'm on board for the long run.
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|Comment #63 by Dracconius |
Wednesday, June 29, 2011 @ 07:05:39 AM
|I played through DA2 5 times and didn't get the achievement for completing it twice so something is very buggy. Played using my saved game from DAO as well and still nothing. I enjoy both games very much but it needs a new story and new dungeons. I have all the DLC for both games and I am still working all all the DAO achievements, it takes forever to get some of these damn things. |
I have played many Bioware games over the years and have a vast collection for multiple platforms. Personally I hate EA and always have but since it has its fingers in almost everything nowadays there is not much I can do about it.
I am new to the xbox 360 and getting all these different achievements but I love the system and I am trying to get as many achievements as I can and as I a gamerscore as I can. I have 17 games and some of the things you have to do are just nuts. I am a decent player but some of them require pro gamers to do them I swear.
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|Comment #64 by scott.m |
Friday, July 01, 2011 @ 01:05:43 AM
|im sorry to all u haters but i really need 2 say this. |
so bioware changed the core of the combat, shortened the game time, used virtually the same locations, but is as a previous guy said the fact of the story was based around & in kirkwall. they changed it so that it wouldnt b the same BS over & over again. but if thats wat u all want then just sit tight & wait for the next final fantasy game, that shits all the same anywayz, or u can wait for the new totally same games : Final Fantasy- Mass Effect & Final Fantasy- Dragon Age. thatll keep u all entertained with the same shit. NOTHING changed AT ALL..........
there u go, thats my rant. PEACE OUT!!!!
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|Comment #65 by Dite |
Friday, July 01, 2011 @ 06:49:00 PM
| Honestly, I also really enjoyed the Mass Effects, and both Dragon Ages. |
I think the love/hate interest in DA2 is based on what's more important to most people. I REALLY noticed that a big thing people keep mentioning are the layouts. I did notice that, and it kind of bugged me, but I could get over it. I think they did a really nice mix in adding the good aspects of the Mass Effect series into the game, but not turning it into ME. I found combat to be a bit more fun, the interfaces felt somewhat easier, and I loved how they added, yet changed, paragon/renegade in as more in-depth personalities.
My only real problem about it being 'rushed' is when something (like Merrill's quest) breaks. And, I feel a bit lucky that way, because I feel that they spent a lot of time on the things I loved, and less on the things I cared less about. I feel like they spent a lot of time on the personality system (I've noticed how some of the character's automatic dialogue starts to follow their personalities--the Hawke voice actors deserve a lot of praise in my opinion), and integrating your choices in DA2 (sidequests that should and should not show up, comments people make, etc.). Then, rushed in the locations and some mechanics. I love RPGs in general because of their personalization of the storyline, and while the main storyline itself isn't great, the personalized parts are wonderful. And, of course the companion dialogue.
And the length didn't really bother me. Honestly, I hope the next one will be a good median--I wanted to do a lot more playthroughs of the first one, but after the first times, I just wanted to skip from one cutscene/dialogue to the next for the Grey Warden Treaties. Skip most of the deep roads, and forest.
I'm really looking forward to the DLC. I just hope it comes out and I can finish it before Skyrim comes out...And, I have to finish Skyrim before ME3 comes out...
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|Comment #66 by Xeres |
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 09:59:32 PM
|I love Dragon Age 2. I never understood why people hated on it. More DLC is good regardless |
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|Comment #67 by Mellow Tha Pro |
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 @ 01:55:15 PM
|Fuck DLC |
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|Comment #68 by My Own Alarum |
Saturday, December 01, 2012 @ 07:44:23 PM
|I am completely befuddled by how many fans are upset with DA2. I liked Origins a decent amount, but the fact that I can now choose a personality for my character and see it reflected in the writing is awesome. |
For me, the game isn't about the dungeon maps and monsters, though I understand why the people who want games that are focused on such things would be disappointed. I'm just trying to get through that stuff so I can get to the story and make choices that give me different perspectives and information.
If people want their games to be a full comprehensive hack-n-slash, they should stick to games that don't try to be anything else, like Oblivion.