Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #1 by LiamWadey Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:02:15 AM | |
| So it's now EA's turn to countersue? This is getting silly ... |
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Forum Posts: 455 | Comment #2 by Sean 94 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:07:16 AM | |
| Fuck Activision. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #3 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:07:36 AM | |
| Good! I hope EA goes bankrupt. They opt to host their own servers, only to shut them down all the time. That makes multiplayer achievements unobtainable, which is supposedly against MS policy. I think we gamers should start a class-action against EA for false advertising/Fraud. Every game they make should have to have parentheses next to online, saying the servers will be forever closed on our whim, probably less than a year after release. We Hate Our Customers! |
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Forum Posts: 84 | Comment #4 by Hobo Sniper Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:09:23 AM | |
| They all need to chill down with a few buds by the looks of it.. |
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Forum Posts: 372 | Comment #5 by iJon72 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:13:31 AM | |
| ea only shut servers down when no one goes on them. if you wait years for the multiplayer achievements then it is kinda your fault. but they are a business and servers cost money, they is no point keeping them open just to lose money |
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Forum Posts: 30 | Comment #6 by Brockxz Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:14:06 AM | |
#3 you most likely have never read Terms of Use etc things that come with games :)
Next time read what you are agreeing to when you launch the game :) |
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Forum Posts: 498 | Comment #7 by Kirbster117 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:17:26 AM | |
| Think I'd miss EA more than Activision to be honest. Go on EA fuck em up! |
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Forum Posts: 8905 | Comment #8 by himalaybarad Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:18:54 AM | |
| EA FTW! |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #9 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:22:05 AM | |
| You're god-damn right I don't read that shit. Does it say by booting the game you forfeit all rights afforded to customers of any other product? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #10 by BenIsJammin138 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:23:22 AM | |
| I hope EA, West and Zampella win in this whole argument. There really hasn't been statements to suggest that Activision are in the right here, they're just coming off as a bully. I mean if it's true Infinity Ward employees haven't been paid royalties then that's just plain bullshit, I'd be pissed if I weren't paid for my work that made them billions of dollars. |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #11 by DaveDuncan Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:26:39 AM | |
| @9 not our fault your late to the party dude! i've never had problems with ea servers being shutdown. you must play some proper old school games. |
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Forum Posts: 5246 | Comment #12 by Deadly Moves Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:26:48 AM | |
OMG! Activision are getting way too big for there boots. They have to be the biggest money grabbing games company EVER!
Activision can take a long walk of a short pier IMO |
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Forum Posts: 495 | Comment #13 by Chaos MAN Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:27:07 AM | |
| Even though I hate EA I hope they kick Activision's a$$ in this lawsuit. |
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Forum Posts: 39 | Comment #14 by matt3082 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:31:25 AM | |
So now everyone loves EA now that it is being sued by the big bad Kotick?
I gotta admit - i am sick of people hating Activision because everyone else is doing it and it is "cool". While i don't like some of Activisions moves (such as effectively shutting down Massive Entertainment when the Vivendi merger happened and the destruction of the Music Game genre with complete over-saturation of the market), i applaud there move to make some of the more better games this year (Transformers: War for Cybertron and Starcraft 2).
I like EA a lot more then activision though (and always have since they took some real gambles on Mirror's Edge and Dead Space back in 08 - which took balls to get those out in the year of the sequels). |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #15 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:31:27 AM | |
| There are plenty of old games I would play, if they were actually doable. But a lot of old sports games have one or two online achievements which are impossible to get because EA shut down servers. I have Madden 95 still for Genesis, and all the content that was available at release is still available. Not so for any and every EA game for the 360. They choose to host their own servers, seemingly only so they can shut them down when they want to manipulate their customers into buying the year's new game, which hasn't even improved upon the previous. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #16 by Jubilantswine Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:37:15 AM | |
They're both as bad as each other.
EA imo are worse as they keep making stupid codes to get the 1000G, and if you try to sell on games without the code they're almost worthless. So the only time im buying those kind of games from now on is when they're like £10 new.
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Forum Posts: 30 | Comment #17 by Brockxz Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:37:29 AM | |
| #14 Blizzard still have some freedom from Kotick so don't add Starcraft to Activision success :) Read some articles about this if you don't know how Activision Blizzard merge works. |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #18 by Desmondo2000 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:40:29 AM | |
| the unstoppable force vs the immovable object who will win! |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #19 by ShirleyPeanut Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:41:13 AM | |
@15
You seem to forget that they are a company and need to make money.
If nobody was playing those games then they should be able to close their servers down should they not? kind of a waste. I don't see where you feel this sense of entitlement tbh.
On topic. I have no hatred for either Activision or EA I don't get why people do. But all this sueing is just generating even more hatred for both company's I feel. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #20 by elmo416 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:44:30 AM | |
| maybe we should file a class action suit for the firing of west and zampella because of the lower quality COD games we will be submitted to. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #21 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:44:47 AM | |
| Because they choose to host their games on their own servers. Every other company has Xbox host their games. I can still play COD2 online if I choose. AND AS I BOUGHT IT, I GET TO CHOOSE. UNDERSTAND? THEY SELL GAMES ADVERTISING THINGS THAT THEY DON'T INCLUDE. MORONS. |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #22 by JamesJevans Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:50:35 AM | |
I don't think activition will ever stop! Next, they will be sueing any console owner who doesn't buy any of there games!
I do hope EA puts them in there place, EA brought us SSX, activition can't ruin that! NEVER!... |
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Forum Posts: 179 | Comment #23 by BearsAirz Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:51:04 AM | |
| Activision is just so damn money hungry. This is complete garbage and I cannot wait til March when Activision loses this lawesuit. |
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Forum Posts: 390 | Comment #24 by cbssi Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:53:57 AM | |
Pretty soon Michael Jackson is going to sue Activision for royalties from the grave.
If THAT happened, this would be TRULY classic video game drama! |
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Forum Posts: 179 | Comment #25 by BearsAirz Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:54:10 AM | |
| @14 Blizzard made Starcraft 2 with little to no assistance from Activision. Blizzard is more like a sister company to Activision than a company say Treyarch (which is an infant suckin on its mother's teet) |
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Forum Posts: 59 | Comment #26 by DonkeyBong71 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:58:24 AM | |
| and the legal teams on both sides say: "KE'CHING!" |
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Forum Posts: 374 | Comment #27 by braddelo Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:02:38 AM | |
@3
Oh no! What will do now that we can't obtain a few achievements?! I think I may just end it all now... Seriously? A lawsuit for some fucking points on your gamercard? I don't give a fuck what kind of website you say this is. There's a fine line between fanaticism and idiocy. |
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Forum Posts: 212 | Comment #28 by zippy100012 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:08:35 AM | |
| do it activision, sue their asses and use the money to buy dildos and shove them all up your ass. pricks. |
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Forum Posts: 2594 | Comment #29 by Itsbrown4606 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:09:05 AM | |
| Oh look, Activision is waving it's dick around again... what a shocker. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #30 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:10:08 AM | |
You are missing the point. The achievements are part of the game. If you bought a car without an engine wouldn't you be upset? You can go to the store and buy an EA game right now, full-price, not used, and much of the content won't be usable in any way. But if you don't mind getting bent over and raped by EA again and again with yearly releases with nothing but updated rosters, go right ahead. Just don't complain when you find out the game you bought isn't complete, but requires several micro-transactions for content that should've been included to begin with, and won't be usable less than a year after release.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." |
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Forum Posts: 290 | Comment #31 by YogiB Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:12:47 AM | |
I qoute Marcus in GoW2 on Activision suing EA & Respawn: "They can eat shit and die for all I care".
I hope EA & Respawn wins the lawsuit. I did like Activison before they begin too milk CoD & Guitar Hero.
But now I like EA better even that I hate they are giving out new Fifa & sports game every year,and that you need online code too become VIP or play online. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #32 by MojoDex Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:18:54 AM | |
| why all the negtive rep for #3? he is 100% right! |
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Forum Posts: 197 | Comment #33 by Tobes v1 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:20:59 AM | |
| One day chriscutis is gonna grow up and earn the big bucks. Or probably not |
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Forum Posts: 30 | Comment #34 by Brockxz Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:22:24 AM | |
| #30 fail attempt to compare buying car and game. First of all, you actually don 't buy the game but you buy the rights to use it. As i said already previously, maybe next time read at least one time ToU and other legal issues they write and you agree by starting gaming. You don't own the game, you just own to use it as long as publsiher/developer or whoever has the rights to that ip allows you to do that. |
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Forum Posts: 448 | Comment #35 by sak7395 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:29:03 AM | |
| Lets stop playing cod k |
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Forum Posts: 164 | Comment #36 by Canadian Gamerling Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:30:39 AM | |
hahaha wow... NERD RAGE!
OT i think EA does get away with some things that SHOULD be looked at but its not to say activision would do the same! honestly i think both companies have issues but not worth getting in a riot about.
one thing i WILL add is that if EA begins shutting down servers that I HAD TO PAY to play (i.e sims3, hot pursuit) then im gonna see that as a HUGE issue! |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #37 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:31:19 AM | |
| Its still false advertising. And even if it wasn't illegal, it's a dick move. And I don't support dicks, thats why I don't vote Republican. |
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Forum Posts: 133 | Comment #38 by OMGmyFACE Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:31:39 AM | |
| ITT, law students trolling. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #39 by bennoth Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:33:09 AM | |
| Oh fuck off Activision, the gaming world will be a much better place without you. |
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Forum Posts: 259 | Comment #40 by XBL Unreal Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:33:44 AM | |
| #34 That only applies to online servers. You are paying for the right to use them and EA can shut them down whenever they deem its not financially feasible to keep them up. You own the game once you drop your $59.99 or whatever you paid for it at the store. |
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Forum Posts: 84 | Comment #41 by ViNyLek Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:36:52 AM | |
| I like both EA and Activision and don't give a fuck who wins. Politics are for ppl that have nothing better to do. Better pay more attention to making great new games and less to coming up with some petty claims. |
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Forum Posts: 3643 | Comment #42 by Opiate42 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:37:33 AM | |
| LOL @ 26!!! you are too right. |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #43 by NerfTurbo Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:54:49 AM | |
This thumbs up thumbs down shit is getting as gay as Facebook. It was put in to reward great comments and punish trolls.. but it seems everyone is a troll now-a-days. This site has been much weaker since its arrival.
For instance, comment 3 does not deserve 13 thumbs down. His statement regarded unattainable achievements, which I guarantee the 13 that disliked his statement would be echoing had they gone through a similar experience. Please, xbox360achievements.org get rid of this horrible comment rating system. And categorize any thread involving Infinity Ward and lawsuits as hopeless. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #44 by Sean1234 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:55:52 AM | |
| Personally, if I had to choose between EA and Activision, I would go with EA. I love their games (online servers or not) and Activision is getting old. But honestly, I don't give a fuck who wins. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #45 by Caesar XI Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 08:59:56 AM | |
| Both Company's have there faults, but this is just petty, activision dont you have enough money |
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Forum Posts: 200 | Comment #46 by Kisushima Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:00:44 AM | |
| I love to hate on EA. But if anyone says to you "EA Sports.." They reply with "It's in the game" in that manly accent. I would miss EA FAR more than Activision. But the real losers are West, Zampella and the 40 other employees who haven't gained their royalties. I should think this law suit would be over quick (in comparison to the time of general law suits) in favour of West, Zampella, the 40 employees and EA. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #47 by Sean1234 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:01:54 AM | |
| #43 I completely agree |
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Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #48 by Richmyster6907 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:03:10 AM | |
| @30 are you retarded honestly you refer to the loss of a few points as rape? LOOOOOOL and as for games they have shut down you should do it before the shut down the servers then and stop moaning like a little girl. K! |
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Forum Posts: 121 | Comment #49 by nateredish Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:04:43 AM | |
| @40 actually you dont own the game like #34 said. it's just like movies and music, you dont own them. thats why its illegal to make copies, if you actually own something you are free to do whatever you want with it |
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Forum Posts: 121 | Comment #51 by nateredish Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:09:43 AM | |
| @50 dude you need to chill out, you are talking about a company that publishes VIDEO GAMES and you are getting this bent out of shape. just dont support them anymore if you dont like them and quit talking to everyone else like theyre idiots just cause they dont share your same views |
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Forum Posts: 197 | Comment #52 by Tobes v1 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:12:45 AM | |
@50
QQ |
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Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #53 by Richmyster6907 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:13:56 AM | |
| @50 enjoy not buying there games because some of them are quite awesome oh and a terminal disease? the fuck man your already a douche before I even meet you damn. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #54 by poheroe Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:18:17 AM | |
| I wonder if carmine will die... |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #55 by virgil must die Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:19:06 AM | |
| Activision had to say EA were up to something cause, as it was, activisions reason for gettin rid of west and co was insanely thin. When capcom got rid of clover and SEGA waited 5 mins to sign em up (now platinum for those who dont know) it was just good business sense, activision were stupid to think that they would go without work for too long! |
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Forum Posts: 1139 | Comment #56 by Vigor Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:19:32 AM | |
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING FROM OUR MONEY???
Awesome!! |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #57 by thejester1888 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:26:07 AM | |
| @37. you really need to bring politics into it. grow up. seriously. first half of the comment is fine but you are just saying that to start something for no reason |
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Forum Posts: 112 | Comment #58 by Earth Djinn Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:40:20 AM | |
Activision are such assholes. I always feel a little guilty when I buy Activision games.
Not to mention how disappointed I was when it was Activision who Bungie chose to be their publisher. |
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Forum Posts: 320 | Comment #59 by arasma Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:43:50 AM | |
@50: Speaking of the box, have you also read the section that says 'EA May retire online features after 30 days notice posted www.ea.com'?
You get exactly what you are promised, online as long as they decide to support it, maybe it isn't as long as you would hope for, but it's a sports game, they will always have annual instalments, and they aren't going to pay to keep servers open so every once in a while someone can get an achievement. |
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Forum Posts: 250 | Comment #60 by macd Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:53:41 AM | |
Activision... really? Tbh, this story keeps getting funnier and funnier. It is now bordering on soap opera-tastic.
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #61 by Midget Mafia Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 09:55:10 AM | |
| I don't know who is worse, EA or Activision. |
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Forum Posts: 208 | Comment #62 by muzykalscorpio Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:03:21 AM | |
| Please do not attribute Blizzard's successes to Activision. |
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Forum Posts: 14798 | Comment #63 by Webb [STAFF] Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:06:57 AM | |
@#43 - No, #3 is not a good comment. It's a ridiculous comment and one that even I down thumbed. Let me pick it apart as why:
"Good! I hope EA goes bankrupt." - Really? You hope one of the biggest publishers in the industry goes bankrupt? A publisher that provides many great games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, FIFA, Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, Battlefield etc. Get real.
"They opt to host their own servers, only to shut them down all the time." - All the time? And by that you mean years after the game came out. It's called business and if you're still playing a game that's three years old, that has since been replaced by 3 other iterations, whose fault is that? EA can't afford to account for the odd person here and there who still plays them. It's just not profitable.
"That makes multiplayer achievements unobtainable, which is supposedly against MS policy." - I'm fairly sure that Microsoft don't expect publishers to keep servers up for games that are years old. Leave it two years to go for achievements on an online game and you still blame EA?
"I think we gamers should start a class-action against EA for false advertising/Fraud." - Ha... Ha ha ha.
"Every game they make should have to have parentheses next to online, saying the servers will be forever closed on our whim, probably less than a year after release." - It's business and an obvious business move. The crap about less than a year is hyperbole bullshit too. That's never happened to the best of my knowledge and never will.
"We Hate Our Customers!" - Obviously the comments of a bitter person.
Comment #5 on the other hand is a good comment, thus the up thumbs.
In short... the comment system works. Finally the idiotic few are getting slammed for their stupid comments and they don't like it. The best way is to say something useful. |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #64 by SUTCLIFF 286 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:10:01 AM | |
haha some funny shit in this thread!!
#50 go and have a spliff or summat!! (unless being flamed turns you on??)
OT: Just think if all that money and cost of lawsuits was spent on game development???
Politics really aren't wanted in the game industry (like religion in schools) |
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Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #65 by dylanmannen Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:13:26 AM | |
| haha xD I agree with 3. hate ea's online achievements. |
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Forum Posts: 131 | Comment #66 by Sonoki Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:16:46 AM | |
| awwww and i though of buying Battlefield 2. Ubisoft 4 evaaa!! |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #67 by SUTCLIFF 286 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:21:22 AM | |
#50 Just realised you actually want people to die horribly because you can't get online cheevs!! hahahahahaha.........MY GOD
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #68 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:26:25 AM | |
| Yes it's all my fault. I am totally unreasonable. Nothing I've ever said has any merit. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #69 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:33:42 AM | |
| Lord of the Rings Conquest. Servers shut down 14 months after release. Some poor soul out there might go to their local game shop and think, "Hey, I like Lord of the Rings, this could be fun! Oh, hey, there's online? That sounds awesome, that fact seals the deal." Then the inevitable disappointment when they discover there is no online. Can they get their money back? I hope so, but they should have to recall all the copies in circulation or have some kind of warning placard. Maybe a whole section of every gaming store should be dedicated to broken games. |
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Forum Posts: 66 | Comment #70 by TheBarry Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:36:57 AM | |
| wow too many EA fanboys in here... EA is a publishing behemoth compared to Activision, they will cheat, lie and steal to make more money. I believe 100% that EA had secret meetings with the makers of CoD. FUCK EA! |
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Forum Posts: 1257 | Comment #71 by WhIpLaSh 014 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:39:28 AM | |
I've seen stupid lawsuits, but this is rediculous...
Again, this goes to show that Bobby "Kockdick" is 110% corrupted in every way. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #72 by chriscutis Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 10:40:13 AM | |
| And the point isn't that they shut down the servers, it does make business sense, there's no disputing that. It's the fact that Microsoft would host the servers indefinitely if EA didn't choose to use their own. Add in the fact that they do shut down servers, it seems they only do so to artificially boost their sales. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #73 by ArcadeNightmare Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:06:05 AM | |
Although I don't know much about the whole lawsuit shinanigins (I like to play games and ignore the politics going on in the background). I will say I happen to enjoy games EA publish. I have been playing games since the late 80's and have seen EA at their money grabbing worst and I genuinely think EA have really made a push over recent years to make games for people to enjoy...Not just retail games, but also games on XBLA.
As for the servers being shut down that is at EA's own discretion, it is why when signing up to their servers they include a Terms of Service notice which clearly indicates they can close the servers within a certain time frame (I think it's a 30 day notice period).
Anyways going back onto subject (well I will try anyways) I think this is just getting more and more ridiculous as it goes on...Surely Activision know this is hurting the gaming industry more than helping it. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #74 by FoxViper1 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:07:14 AM | |
i believe that IW had a chance against Activition but now EA too, Good Luck!
@70- I have know idea but i woulda though Activition was bigger because of Tony Hawks/GH/and COD I know EA is massive to there just hard to compare.
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #75 by Ironhand Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:16:31 AM | |
| #30 I love the fail car analogy. So the achievements to the game are like the engine of the car? Guess I didnt realize how big of part they played in the games success. Well Id hate to think what the graphics, controls, and overall storyline fit in. OT this is just a big dick measuring contest now. If Activision knew a couple years ago whys this shit just now coming to light? |
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Forum Posts: 459 | Comment #76 by pauly_27 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:22:47 AM | |
@#69
Wouldn't that "poor soul" who likes Lord of the Rings bought it much earlier? or at the very least done the slightest bit of research on it before hand?
It's a joke that they still sell the map pack for it though, thats for sure. |
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Forum Posts: 47 | Comment #77 by bio187 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:24:46 AM | |
@63 you gotta love it when a staff member comes in to point out that kid is a retard.
Thats when you now shit be serious.
@70 yeah i can see your stuck in the past where EA was the douche. but its activision now prime example would be probably the three franchises that 74 listed that they just made sequel after sequel and ran them into the ground beating them senseless, just so they can fill their wallets.
whereas now a days EA is making more games of DIFFERENT IP'S THAT TAKE 1-2 YEARS TOPS TO RELEASE A NEW ONE.
if any one company is hurting the industry the most its defiantly activision. end of discussion. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #78 by neoghio Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:30:56 AM | |
Amazing how times have changed. Not that long ago EA was hated by every single person, but since attempting new IP's and releasing several decent games and giving FIFA the attention it deserved I have much more respect for them.
The success of the Guitar Hero franchise (at least at the beginning) and the success of C.O.D franchise have turned activision into monsters. |
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Forum Posts: 192 | Comment #79 by the ferenczy Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:39:01 AM | |
| always fun, hearing about 2 billion dollar companies arguing over less than half a billion. guess activision realized they won't have a cod game for next xmas and have to make up the difference somewhere. |
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Forum Posts: 121 | Comment #80 by RobotHacker Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:43:09 AM | |
@49 I'm pretty sure if you've bought a cd or DVD you can copy it for backup purposes and it isn't illegal. Selling or distributing copies is illegal however.
On topic - I neither like or dislike EA or Activision. I don't look at developers/publishers when choosing a game to buy. Both have made great games and will continue to do so.
As a business it would be silly not to churn out sequels to games if they were popular |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #81 by Caesar XI Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:46:28 AM | |
I better stop buying Per-owned Copys of there games, or they might sue me for not paying full price.
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Forum Posts: 732 | Comment #82 by i got squeezed Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:50:41 AM | |
| @ 21 Are you still posting? Man go somewhere else and say your bullshit comments, nobody wants to hear your pathetic response |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #83 by Saosin3679 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:54:26 AM | |
Wow, I had no idea server shut down was a big deal. IMO, you should get over it. If you are that obsessed with gamerscore, you need help.
With the state of the economy, we can't afford to lose any big names right now. Despite what your personal opinion is of each publisher, they both generate large amounts of business for the industry from CoD, Madden, GoW, GH, etc. I'm just hoping this lawsuit gets dropped.
Then again I've been hoping Kotick gets fired for years... |
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Forum Posts: 732 | Comment #84 by i got squeezed Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 12:13:10 PM | |
| I feel sorry for West and Zampella, and IW. Their company just went down hill after lame ass Activision fired half the population at IW, it's stated that MW3 is bein released next year by IW. I don't see how, and now EA is in the middle of all this, sounds like Activision needs a hug from me |
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Forum Posts: 931 | Comment #85 by IXISHADOW Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 12:40:07 PM | |
| At the end of the day the money they save could potentially go towards another game such as Dead Space 2 or ME3. Think about it. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #86 by Quantum47 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 12:53:22 PM | |
| These replies give me a pain in my shesss... |
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Forum Posts: 3553 | Comment #87 by jtr1gg3r Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 12:59:57 PM | |
| What!? Stupidity a its best lol |
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Forum Posts: 39 | Comment #88 by Tim 13 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 01:40:17 PM | |
| 14: I hate Activision for slaying Infinity Ward, handing the Call of Duty franchise entirely to the toddlers at Treyarch, and raping the Guitar Hero franchise beyond recognition... all for the money. I certainly have disapproved of EA's business practices in the past, and I still do have my issues with them, but any corporation is evil. All we're looking at here is the lesser of two evils. Activision fucked these two dudes out of a paycheck to make their own wallets a little heavier, and now EA wants to pick these guys up and help them. Between that and how happy I am with Rock Band 3, it's time for Activision to go the way of Old Yeller. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #89 by asilent boom Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 01:48:33 PM | |
| Damn lawyers are the only people getting rich here, especially Activisions. |
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Forum Posts: 3643 | Comment #90 by Opiate42 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 03:15:19 PM | |
-45 is pretty impressive there #3.
Dude, seriously just stop posting, sit down and think about things for a while. |
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Forum Posts: 16 | Comment #91 by caboose69ing Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 03:46:29 PM | |
| Who the fuck cares anymore...at night when you lay in bed does any of this affect you adversely, No I think not..It's not your ass on the line, or rather any of our business, as gamers we are here to buy and play the fucking games not get into every company that has a problem's ass.Activision is greedy, and EA are for lack of a better word retarded. both company's have problems, both have good games, along with bad ones. Get over it and stop hate waring, or being a fan boy and starting shit, Seriously go the fuck outside, we have bigger issues to deal with than a video game lawsuit. And I dare that one moron to tell me well if you don't like it why are you posting...Because someone needs to throw common sense down onto the playing field. |
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Forum Posts: 948 | Comment #92 by Dr Popodopolus Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 04:47:17 PM | |
| If Activision fuck up what's left of IW and their development on MW3 then I will never forgive them and NEVER buy a single one of their products ever again! |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #93 by DrunkMonkey 247 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 06:04:23 PM | |
| nice read |
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Forum Posts: 477 | Comment #94 by francisrossi Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 06:04:23 PM | |
| If the Infinity Ward guys were breaching the terms of their contracts by negotiating with EA behind Activision's backs, then that's their own stupid fault, and they deserve to be sued. On the other hand, they could well have been legally free to do so, in which case Activision won't have a case against them. Either way, we know fuck all about the intricacies, so uneducated bile-spewing about two corporate giants that really only care about profits is a bit silly. |
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Forum Posts: 2594 | Comment #95 by Itsbrown4606 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 06:29:33 PM | |
#43 - "Oh no, some one downed thumbed me (or in this case, the other guy) ON THE INTERNET! Please allow me to proceed to cry my eyes out!"
Get the hell over it. It's a USER-BASED rating system, one that is completely susceptible to any and all forms of padding and whatnot that entire it entirely useless.
I knew from day damn one when this was implemented that this kind of shit was going to happen... people WHINING about their comment ratings from people who matter FUCK ALL in the discussion. Like I said before, do you want thumbs up? Then say Justin Bieber is the greatest singer ever and Halo: Reach is game off the year. Anything NOT popular opinion gets thumbed down NO MATTER HOW RIGHT YOU THINK YOU ARE. |
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Forum Posts: 807 | Comment #96 by DaChiefOfOwnage Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 06:53:45 PM | |
I'm pretty sure people are just thumbs downing #3 just to see how many thumbs down he can obtain.
Surely he has the right to his opinion... Yes he has exaggerated but I understand his point of view... It seems most people here don't.
Whatever happened to Christmas cheer? It's like a goddamn episode of [dramatic sitcom]! |
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Forum Posts: 807 | Comment #97 by DaChiefOfOwnage Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 06:56:58 PM | |
| Oh yeah and one more thing, EA and Activision don't DEVELOP games, they are publishers, so they CAN and WILL release the same series of games every year. |
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Forum Posts: 104 | Comment #98 by Daluca 47 Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 07:52:46 PM | |
| @95 I would rewrite the popular statement from "Justin Bieber is the greatest singer" to one of the worst out there as his target market is not most gamers and is generally unfavorable to this market. So the more popular statement on a site like this would be "Justin Bieber Suck" in short. "Halo: Reach is game of the year" that statement works :) |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #99 by The_Prodigy Wednesday, December 22, 2010 @ 11:17:02 PM | |
| @14 yeah some people maybe on the bandwagon but majority probable do hate them i hate activision but not the companies they own i loved transformers, but i like EA a lil' better but not by much they really made me mad when they decided to suck up to sony with sony only dlc for there games and for tarnishing mass effect by putting the second and not the first on ps3 among other things; i just think its stupid. but i do agree on the fact of they have balls to take big risks i still think to this day Mirror's Edge was the best game of '08 after that was prototype and gears 2- well was until the updates screwed it over. |
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Forum Posts: 240 | Comment #100 by TheEighthSage Thursday, December 23, 2010 @ 12:37:41 AM | |
@91 Since when does supporting your favorite developer/publisher on a video game based website make you a "moron?" If you really gave a damn about those other issues that you accuse us of neglecting in favor of a flame war, you certainly wouldn't have any time to stop and post something here. Something, that as you put it, doesn't affect you in any shape or form. In short, if it doesn't matter in the long run, why bitch about it here?
Also, you're right in saying that common sense is much needed in these comments. It's just not coming from you, sorry to say.
On topic, the outcome of the lawsuit DOES affect us, as it affects what games we'll be buying in the present and future. That being said, I really hope that EA wins this one. West and Zampella definitely deserve an end to all this madness. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #101 by Mart E McFly Thursday, December 23, 2010 @ 06:56:07 AM | |
| If EA did get involved with aiding and abetting then Activision has every right to sue, just b/c theyre huge doesnt mean that they should let things slide. Every company wants to destroy its competitor, this is how its been and always will be. If I was Activision I would hold those checks until the court forces me to pay(and they will).Its funny how ppl hate Activision and yet they still sell huge numbers.I think it would have been smart for EA to just stay out of the way or else you might have 400 million less in the bank. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #102 by chriscutis Thursday, December 23, 2010 @ 12:27:56 PM | |
http://www.hbsslaw.com/cases-and-investigations/maddennfl
Oh my, someone already filed a class action against EA. Hows bouts thats? |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #103 by NerfTurbo Thursday, December 23, 2010 @ 04:46:43 PM | |
| @Webb I agree with what you said. 2 years is plenty of time for achievements and yes why waste money.. gamers are nasty people sometimes. |
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Forum Posts: 2273 | Comment #104 by Capn Doug Thursday, December 23, 2010 @ 11:33:52 PM | |
This is a fairly hilarious lawsuit. Activision is suing essentially because no one wants to work with them and it is somehow EA's fault. Couldn't have anything to do with not paying the employees. My boss misses one shift and I raise hell. Imagine what I would do if it was $36 million in back pay. Harmonix stopped working With Activision and went to work with EA. Infinity Ward (or at least all its employees) stopped working withActivision and started working with EA. Maybe the problem lies with Ativision...
And @chriscutis, that law suit you mentioned in 102 is an absolute joke. It is lawyers trying to make a fast dollar. It is a nuisance lawsuit at best. EA will win that suit no question. They can't be forced to continually sell a game at a loss because they no longer have a competitor that is blowing out games at a massive discount in order to gain more market share. They went from selling a game at a discount rate to selling a game at the industry standard rate. Not illegal or immoral.
As for your other comments, you need to adjust your medication, since it is clearly not having the desired effect. They close servers when people stop using them, not on a whim, so I blame the closures on you, chriscutis. If you played the game regularly, they wouldn't need to close the server. My guess is also that if you are getting a game so close to the server shutdown (with the possible exception of FIFA, which has a wierd clause in the license only allowing them to support one game at a time), you bought the game for less than $10. If you bought it that cheap, the developer saw none of that money and you still expect them to support you as a customer? PA said it best, if you buy used, you are not an EA customer, you are a GameStop customer. That applies to cheap games as well as used, since it is just the retailer reducing their stock.
Engage brain before speaking, chriscutis. |
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Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #105 by kingofthstrays Saturday, January 01, 2011 @ 11:28:50 AM | |
This sound like a daytime soap opera to say the least what next we going to have shirt like Twilight movies "oh team EA versus team Actvision" with gamer money at stake
if up to me they are both guilty
EA for doing that stupid online axcess crap for more money....if you didn't buy it new
Actvision for b shitting those guys if you would pay the damn royalties but no you got greedy
one word sum it up ........Money its all about getting more benjamians! |
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Forum Posts: 268 | Comment #106 by gamerscorhunta Saturday, January 01, 2011 @ 06:07:23 PM | |
Activision never loses. Bobby Kotick will never lay down in his bed, sleeping with defeat. We all must realize that Electronic Arts is as credible as Activision is in this entire argument, considering EA has been touting IW with a host of taunts I dare to call mudslinging. Look on the back of the case to Battlefield: Bad Company 2's THE ULTIMATE EDITION, as I quote;
"Bad Company 2 is a better game than Modern Warfare 2"
Instead of promoting how good the game is, they marketed how the game "dominates" one specific game that has received better scores for. Honestly, I hope Electronic Arts loses this battle, along with all of their money, and Activision reigns supreme in this entire situation. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #107 by LukasKhan Sunday, January 02, 2011 @ 03:02:45 PM | |
To all the people like 31 who complain about EA making you buy a VIP code to play online. It's only an issue if you buy the game preowned.
They're supporting their own industry by making people who buy the game second hand - where the money doesn't go back to the developer - put money back into that process. If everyone waited for the game to hit preowned and only a few people bought it new, you'd see the quality drop a lot quicker then a few employees leaving a company.
Every game company and every company in general milk every good product they can to make a few extra quid. I don't understand why its an issue if there's a COD game every year or a new sports game every year. There's nothing new there at all.
And if its a problem spending an extra few bob on top of what you've spent already on a preowned game just so you can access the online features, then so what. You made the choice by not buying it new. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #108 by LukasKhan Sunday, January 02, 2011 @ 03:10:42 PM | |
Also forgot to add a part about online multiplayer achievements and online being shut down.
There are many new games out there that no one really plays online at all. That have online achievements. I remember getting EndWar and not being able to find a game, how am i meant to get the online achievements?
I don't, i just get on with life and play something different. If your life has to revolve around getting the odd achievement here and there then there really is something seriously wrong. |
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Forum Posts: 281 | Comment #109 by Boots Orion Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 03:28:28 PM | |
@3 This EA shutting the servers crap is getting old. Obviously all of us like getting as many achievements as we can or we would never be registered users of a site like this, but c'mon dude!
If you are that concerned with getting every achievement (online and offline) in a game then you should only buy games when they are first released and when dlc first comes out (Army of Two: 40th Day DLC aside).
If you are buying used games out of a bargain bin for less than $10 then you have no right to knock any profit seeking company (like EA) for closing servers they pay money to keep running. Likewise, I can't complain that I can't get the GOTW achievement in NBA LIVE 09, when I bought the game used two years after it came out for $3. We shouldn't expect any company to keep a year specific achievement running in perpetuity.
If you don't like EA because you think their games stink...that's another story. |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #110 by tim_speights Tuesday, January 04, 2011 @ 11:23:00 PM | |
| @5 actually its called price fixing and there is currently a class action lawsuit against EA for just that. They support their own servers and close them on a whim to keep people buying the new games. This doesn't only affect achievement whores. If microsoft were to use their servers to host they would never get shut down. If old servers never get shut down people have less incentive to spend $60 on roster updates. While servers might cost money, the way that they are running it currently is netting more than if they would allow MS to host. |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #111 by Mister MacGyver Wednesday, January 05, 2011 @ 01:01:10 AM | |
| i hope EA kick Activisions arse in this war, speaking of war there was once a stage in my life i loved playing call of duty, but iam loosing my will to live playing the games now the multiplayer is filled with hackers and modders (cheating Scumbags) campaign still interests me for the moment but that is slowly dying aswell and most of the other games iam playing that are keeping me on xbox are EA games. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #112 by WadeMcG Wednesday, January 05, 2011 @ 08:45:16 PM | |
Wasn't Activision originally founded by people who left Atari en masse due to a lack of royalties on Atari's part? This makes the behaviour of present day Activision more offensive. Honestly, half the money that Activision spent on COD: Black Ops advertising probably could've settled the Infinity Ward class action. I can only guess how much Activision spent on the all expenses paid 3 day vacation bribe ... oops, I mean review event that was held at the Ojai Valley Inn and Spa (see Arstechnica article on Call of Duty: Black Ops review event for more details).
I put this in the same catagory as the EASpouse unpaid overtime scandal occurring around the same time that EA had secured the exclusive NFL rights for so many millions of dollars. |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #113 by Rastaman20 Wednesday, January 05, 2011 @ 11:02:47 PM | |
| its all a fucking money game a bunch of bullshit just to get more and more money |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #114 by eli sk8er2 Wednesday, January 12, 2011 @ 02:40:13 PM | |
| @ #37 are you really bringing politics into a discussion about a lawsuit over video game companies |
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Forum Posts: 196 | Comment #115 by the action frampton Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 07:29:44 AM | |
I don't understand half the posts here... Everyone says they hate Activision, yet year after year after year CoD release is top of all the charts!! Doesn't make sense, if you hate them so much don't hand them your cash for their games.
And on the subject of money graphing, EA are by far the worst offendors - £10 quid for an online pass for every game they release is disgusting. Basically means you have to buy a new copy instead of a pre-owned one. I mean come on, I already fork out for a gold membership yet EA want me to pay again for playing their games online!!
I still buy some EA games, but they really take the piss. Especially the crap servers and glitchy achievements they don't give a damn about - AoT: tFD, CoD DLC !! |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #116 by Literaryman Monday, May 16, 2011 @ 11:20:41 PM | |
| I'm bringing sexy back! |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #117 by Literaryman Monday, May 16, 2011 @ 11:37:44 PM | |
| And btw, EA does develop games as well as publish, but they do the latter infinitly more. And I totally believe Infinity Ward delayed a Modern Warfare 2 map pack for Bad Company 2 release. But who cares, Battlefield is so much better anyway. Did any of you even what you were arguing for? EA is the Russians in this scenario, and you can’t really blame them for buying the secrets, allegorically speaking... |
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