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Rock Band 3 Hands-On Preview - Man Up Son, It's Time To Go Pro
Written Sunday, September 26, 2010 By Dan Webb
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Believe it or not, I used to be a dab hand at the piano back in my youth. They called me the “white Stevie Wonder”... okay, so maybe that's a slight exaggeration, but I did used to play piano, quite well in fact.

That was about 15 years ago though - yes, I am that old - and I've always wanted to get back into it, but I felt like a prostitute that's had her legs closed for a decade: rusty and full of cobwebs. When Harmonix announced that Rock Band 3 would be getting its very own keyboard peripheral, well, I suddenly had an excuse to pick up the mantle once again, especially with the pitch accurate ‘Pro’ keys.

When we were at EA's Guildford offices this week, we not only managed to get our filthy mits on the elusive keyboard, but even the Mad Catz pro-guitar. In short, we both sucked and rocked in equal measures. After being given the option of which instrument we wanted to step up on to the oche with, naturally we gravitated towards the keyboard with it being new and me squirming inside like a young school girl.

Although the new peripheral does have a Rock Band style mode to rock out with using just 5 keys and the traditional colour notations, for us, pro-keys was the way forward. Covering two octaves, we found that the Mad Catz created peripheral is probably best played on the adjustable stand (RRP £24.99, sold separately).

Playing pitch accurate notes in all the ‘Pro’ modes, the difference between difficulties is simple. The lower the difficulty, the less notes; the higher the difficulty, the more chords and sharps you'll be hitting until you ramp up to expert which is said to be an exact representation of the music you’re playing along to.
 

Being suitably rusty, we jumped in on easy with a relatively laid-back track: T. Rex and 20th Century Boy. The most notable issue that stuck out like a sore thumb for me was that with the heavy-on-the-guitar tracks, it was pretty difficult to pick out the ivory tones out of everything that was going on.

First track down and things were relatively simple from our perspective. On to the next track, we upped the ante choosing a harder track, and even opting for medium. This time around we had left our comfort zone and we were using both the ebony and ivory keys. Coming from someone who played the piano many moons ago, there are two challenges that you must overcome:
  1. You’ll need to retrain your brain to read a different kind of music. If you've grown up reading sheet music, this is a different kettle of fish. Associating colours and positions on-screen with the keys at your fingers is definitely a new experience and one that will take a little getting used to.
  2. Secondly, with it being two octaves on the keyboard and with only one of those on screen at once, it essentially means that every so often the pitch will shift and with it, the note chart shifts. Getting used to that is one of the mode's biggest hurdles. Truth be told, it's pretty damn disorientating, and keeping a track of where your hands should be and which notes you should be playing is the key to mastering this mode.
That being said, this is pro-keys and no-one said this was going to be an easy ride. After all, you're effectively playing proper music, which is the lure of the whole mode. Despite the growing pains and disorientating start, after 3 or so songs I started to find my groove and the peripheral and mode really starts to come into its own. Yes, there may be a steep learning curve, even for studious pianists, but it's simply some of the most engaging and fun times I've ever had in a music game ever.
 

While we were eased into the keyboard peripheral with a fairly easy track, unfortunately our time with the pro-guitar was not as forgiving. Straight up, straight onto Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody - 5 devilish stars of difficulty for the pro-guitar if you're interested.

Now maybe it wasn't the wisest idea to start ‘Pro’ mode on this song with the 102 button Mad Catz peripheral, but hey, it's a good song and we like to go with the flow. Even on easy, for the most novice guitarists like myself - I can play a few chords and White Stripes' ‘Seven Nation Army’ - it was a massive challenge. Seeing someone nail this mode though is as mesmerising as watching a real guitarist.

So, how it works is simple: each string is represented on-screen and each fret has a number. So if the first string shows a note with a 7 on, you hit the 7th fret on first string as the note passes. For me, that was more complex to grasp than the theory of relativity, and after fumbling through the track – on easy, mind – I end with a dismal 22%.

There is one noticeable hang up though that hasn't really been publicised, and that’s namely that while you may hold down a string not part of a chord on a proper guitar, you know, because it's further up the neck and is superseded by holding down a string on a fret towards the base of the neck. With the Mad Catz pro-guitar though, the peripheral recognises that button press and ultimately says you're wrong, which isn’t going to be ideal for existing guitarists who are already set in their ways. As a tool to learn the guitar though, what more could you ask for?

In a genre that has been long stagnating and lacking innovation, trust it to be Harmonix to give it the kick up the ass the genre needs. After only a short hands-on, it's clear that not only is Rock Band 3 becoming a revelation in the games industry, but with offering a supremely interactive learning system for a variety of instruments – drums as well – the pitch accurate ‘Pro’ modes may take the music industry by storm as well.

Plus, it has Echo & the Bunnymen on the soundtrack, what more could you want?

Rock Band 3 is scheduled for an October 26th and October 29th release in North America and Europe respectively.



 
 

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Comment #1 by Wicelow
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:17:37 PM
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Don't know if I'll pick the keyboard.

Still having HUGE troubles with the drums, so...


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Comment #2 by sleepynow
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:20:53 PM
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Can't wait to try this!


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Comment #3 by Hand of Blood52
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:24:46 PM
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I want pro drums!! :F


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Comment #4 by GaminFanatic
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:24:46 PM
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Already pre-ordered the keyboard bundle, i'll wait a while for pro-guitar.


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Comment #5 by scotland
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:39:33 PM
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Pro-guitar could be amazing, as long a the price isn't ridiculous.


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Comment #6 by Htimsdrof
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 06:48:08 PM
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I'll get the game asap, but I'll have to wait until xmas to get the pro instruments.


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Comment #7 by Star081
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 07:06:07 PM
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@5 the pro guitar with the buttons and plastic string strum bar is 150, and the real one will be 200-300 dollar range and it doesn't come out to later after the game


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Comment #8 by NoThru22
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 07:32:01 PM
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Wow, you guys act like the drums (and pro drums) don't even exist. Jolly good show.


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Comment #9 by Doominatorx6
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 07:47:45 PM
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The keyboard is interesting and may get picked up by me later on. The "Pro" crap however, is overpriced and better off buying a real instument instead... says a real drummer.

I doubt the keyboard will dissapoint, as the pro instruments won't either, but those things are pretty much what will determine if this game beats Warriors of Rock or not... which is PHE-EFFING-NOMINAL by the way.


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Comment #10 by xbox360freak222
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 07:57:49 PM
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can u still play this with a normal guitar hero controler like other games


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Comment #11 by Destromas
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 08:32:06 PM
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Surprised people don't use their own keyboard and buy a midi adapter... I play everything BUT keyboards and even I own one.


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Comment #12 by caboose69ing
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 08:34:32 PM
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I say to hell with guitar and keyboard....straight to pro drums, One issue I have yet to see answered (maybe I'm not looking hard enough) I'm aware that all dlc and previous tracks are in the game but did they update them for harmonies and pro modes. If not then it's a no go...I want my metal etc...to be playable on pro modes.


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Comment #13 by Sabeythang
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 08:44:12 PM
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@12: May as well stay away from the game, then. It would take WAY too long for each and every piece of DLC to be improved with Pro charts, harmonies, and keyboard implementation. Harmonix is, instead, going to be taking votes on which songs should be given those benefits.


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Comment #14 by ShadowKaster
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 09:29:50 PM
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Well I'll be waiting for the actual guitar, hopefully there will be some kind of bundle, but what I think is great is that the dlc will work with this...and I like the dlc's that I have. may even want to buy more after i see what it's all about (hands on) :)


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Comment #15 by SpankyLongsocks
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:08:28 PM
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looks awesome, not gonna have enough money to buy the pro guitar but keys and drums should be fun.


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Comment #16 by xtkbilly
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:17:29 PM
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Anyone know how much this game is going to cost? (with the keyboard)


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Comment #17 by rockhopper
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:38:18 PM
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@16 - The keyboard bundle with the game will cost $129.99.


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Comment #18 by Tim 13
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 11:39:46 PM
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I've not even begun my recovery on a broken finger yet. Hopefully it'll help me get back my strength once I'm ready!

13, that's interesting. Will the owners of the selected songs need to purchase a new pro version, or will they be given the pro-mode benefits by updating their existing track, if you know?


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Comment #19 by EcT Felix
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 11:48:57 PM
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i'll rather buy kinect, this is a ridicoulos price.... Kinect is worth it.


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Comment #20 by GuitarGuruXXX
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 12:13:20 AM
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@12 the pro drums have been charted in the songs since rb1 but that option has not come to fruition until rb3. In short, yes, your dlc that you dl'ed will have the pro drums charted when you put in the rb3 disc. Your metal is safe!


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Comment #21 by GuitarGuruXXX
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 12:18:46 AM
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@18. That has not been announced as of yet. I imagine that future dlc will increase in price with the inclusion of the pro charting. I'm curious if they will offer 2 different dlc, one with and one without pro charting. Hmx is so tight lipped on everything.


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Comment #22 by Beechbone
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 12:44:52 AM
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Pro-guitar is tempting but the price kills me, and I'm too hot on Kinect this holiday season. Gotta choose.


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Comment #23 by Rastaman20
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 01:42:50 AM
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i want a bundle that has everything lol


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Comment #24 by Le3THal
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 02:21:10 AM
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The price is a little fearful for the keyboard + game but i'm glad that there is an option to use the midi pad thingy for other midi compatible keyboards, providing the compatibilitie has a large lange this should be a descent alternative for the cheapskates among us :0D


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Comment #25 by WilliamT8
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 06:37:35 AM
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Cant wait until the fender squire guitar comes out!
I guess ill have to stick to pro drums until it does.


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Comment #26 by MattPayne
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 07:14:33 AM
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I hope all this isn't too costly, I am excited ^^


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Comment #27 by jC Fr34X
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 08:54:51 AM
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Anyone heard of anything about a real pro bass??? As a bassist myself, it'd be sweet to try that out and learn some of these sweet songs... not that I couldn't do it myself, just saying Harmonix will probably be more accurate than my ears are.


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Comment #28 by Smurfquake
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 09:27:39 AM
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So does pro drums have a whole new drumset or just put cymbals onto the old Rock Band 2 one?
I'd def be interested in that. I think I'll pick up the keyboard bundle to start when it comes out then ask for the pro drums/guitar for Christmas. It kind of feels like learning a real instrument, or at least it hopefully will feel like that on both modes.


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Comment #29 by JakMon777
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 10:35:54 AM
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@28 I'm fairly certain you can add the cymbals onto your old kit (RB2 that is, not RB1).

I personally can't wait for the keyboard, I'll buy that over Kinect any day of the week.


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Comment #30 by Webb [STAFF]
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 11:11:24 AM
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@#27 - Oh yeah, there is pro-bass and pro-lead under the whole guitar heading.


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Comment #31 by jC Fr34X
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 11:55:45 AM
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I know that there is a "pro-bass" mode, but is Fender or Gibson or any guitar company making an actual bass guitar like they are making an actual electric guitar. Cuz, honestly, I don't want to play pro-bass on a Fender Squire electric guitar. Finger picking a guitar is not at all the same as finger picking a bass.


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Comment #32 by smacd
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 12:19:06 PM
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There is pro-bass. they have said that they don't intend to make a new bass controller (yet) because the bass part will be string-accurate. That is, if the bassist actually played a 5 or 6 string, there will be that many strings on the bass chart. Which would mean that a pro-bass would also have to be a 6 stringer (and why bother when they already have the guitar... yeah, Harmonix pretty much hates bass players). Although I did hear they will now have bass solos

That said, my real question lies in- what about songs with alternative tunings? will you have to re-tune the guitar for those? (at least, for the squire, not the mustang)


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Comment #33 by jC Fr34X
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 12:55:22 PM
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@32 - That's probably what they'll do for pro-bass, but it really doesn't make sense using the Fender for pro-bass, especially for songs that require a 5 or 6 string bass, since the note configuration for a 6-string bass is BEADGC and not EADGBE like the guitar.


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Comment #34 by smacd
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 01:35:22 PM
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@33

I know, I agree that the optimal solution would be a pro-bass instrument of its own. I'm just relaying what I've read from interviews with Harmonix peoples. But I'm just not going to hold my breath for it. We didn't get the p-bass controller till around when RB2 came out, and even then it still had some design flaws (although, still was one of the better controllers out there).


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Comment #35 by frankumms
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 01:46:47 PM
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my rb3 checklist

keyboard CHECK
new guitar =/
new drumset =/
new mic CHECK
old guitar(for a bassist) CHECK

gosh i gotta find myself an old rb2 guitar/drumset for dirt cheap =/


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Comment #36 by Woodie
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 04:05:19 PM
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This looks awesome can't wait to get it


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Comment #37 by Webb [STAFF]
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 08:02:00 PM
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@#32 - If I recall correctly, the tuning of the guitar isn't necessary for any songs - I'm fairly sure they said that it'd get too complicated if they started judging that and didn't want to punish a player because their guitar wasn't tuned properly.


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Comment #38 by Tim 13
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 @ 12:30:40 PM
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21, if I remember correctly, they had said that they would release pro and non-pro versions of the tracks, since, as you said, the price of the pro tracks will be higher than we've been getting.


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Comment #39 by bearmod
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 @ 05:30:20 PM
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Kind of glad there aren't pro drums, its probably just because a pro drum peripheral would be way to expensive, as for the pro guitar, im gonna wait to get that until the one thats actually strung comes out


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Comment #40 by Xiong Gou
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 @ 05:57:53 PM
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You know to be honesty this game just doesn't entice me at all! I'm a real musician I play the guitar, they've taken the casual video game experience out of it! Cool you can play pro fine, I'll go jam out with my friends and maybe write my and play my own music. Point being if I wanted pro I'd just go out and play a real instrument, if I just want to have fun with my friends I'll go play a video game! It just seems kind of pointless to imitate playing a guitar when you really could go play a REAL guitar!


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Comment #41 by Xiong Gou
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 @ 06:01:36 PM
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Oops... I meant "honest"


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Comment #42 by JamMastrHibbert
Wednesday, September 29, 2010 @ 04:46:31 PM
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Maybe I missed it but does anyone know if the keyboards will be compatible with the beatles rock band?


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Comment #43 by ViNyLek
Wednesday, September 29, 2010 @ 05:20:09 PM
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Not too interested in Pop Band 3. But after readin this I have a headache. I think you made it soudn more complicated than it really is^^


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Comment #44 by hardcore shake
Monday, October 04, 2010 @ 05:39:27 PM
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pro drums


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Comment #45 by TLG160
Wednesday, October 06, 2010 @ 03:02:27 AM
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I can't wait for the PRO drums. Defently buying them. I think the keyboard is a bit overpriced


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Comment #46 by EvieStedo
Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 02:30:57 PM
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I suppose the drums and mic where always the most realistic out of the instruments, so i'm really looking forward to the guitar becoming a "pro" hopefully it will give me a boost to actually pick up the guitar. Playing rock band and using the drums always made me want to learn the drums as it felt that realistic. So hopefully this pro guitar gives me the same feeling.


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Developer:
Harmonix

Publisher:
MTV Games

Genre
Music and Rhythm

Release:

US: October 26, 2010
Europe: October 29, 2010

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