Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #1 by ClairvoyantFury Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:54:47 AM | |
| Wow.. just sold the game after getting all the achievements. Thanks 2k. |
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Forum Posts: 224 | Comment #2 by JonnyNumber1 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:54:51 AM | |
| Nice might get this as I loved bioshock |
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Forum Posts: 2094 | Comment #3 by Filter x360a Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:55:11 AM | |
| Very cool, hopefully no "rank 50" achievement though. |
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Forum Posts: 341 | Comment #4 by Celestial Being Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:55:19 AM | |
| I might get this. Isn't there supposed to be DLC. For the single-player as well though? Or am I wrong? |
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Forum Posts: 73 | Comment #5 by Metalteeth9 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:55:27 AM | |
| Isn't the multiplayer rank already 50? And really, new achievements? Ugh, I really wish there were no new achievements. The multiplayer, while fun, is too buggy to not bother fixing. |
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Forum Posts: 261 | Comment #6 by Mr Blonde 324 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:55:41 AM | |
| its your own fault for selling it. dont blame them. |
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Forum Posts: 541 | Comment #7 by SuperGaz Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:56:13 AM | |
| Too little, too late, I'm afraid. |
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Forum Posts: 211 | Comment #8 by Andy D32 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:56:18 AM | |
| Any sign of a fix for the multiplayer turbo-crashing? Aside from that - awesome! |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #9 by snake2895 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:58:13 AM | |
| Includes a ton of stuff thats already on the disc plus the fact that this should be free anyways for only 800 disneybucks! |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #10 by xwryx9 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:58:33 AM | |
| Is this one already on the disk too? |
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Forum Posts: 4371 | Comment #11 by ApochWeiss Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:01:10 PM | |
| Figures this is 800 points. I hate that shit. Oh well, at least this multiplayer is casual fun. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #12 by Worzol Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:02:35 PM | |
I don't think this one will be on the disk, and whilst it was a shitty stunt to pull, you have to appreciate the diplomatic side-step of what they said in their article.
To paraphrase; If it wasn't on the disk, people who didn't buy it wouldn't be able to play online with people who did.
So you can sort of see their point. But I would like to see what they do for this one if that was indeed the case. |
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Forum Posts: 427 | Comment #13 by Mr Snipey Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:03:08 PM | |
| So they weren't put off by only selling 4 copies of Sinclair Solutions? |
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Forum Posts: 95 | Comment #14 by Donkey Lips Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:05:39 PM | |
| So does that mean that people who buy it won't be able to play with the people who don't, you know, given their shitty explanation to charging us for the first DLC. |
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Forum Posts: 32 | Comment #15 by towns Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:05:39 PM | |
| getting this. i need a return to rapture |
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Forum Posts: 2493 | Comment #16 by Mister Buds Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:07:50 PM | |
i want more single player!
still going to get this though because i love bioshock. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #17 by blackout529 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:18:24 PM | |
| Multiplayer is fun but not fun enough for me to try to reach rank 50. I want single player DLC!!! |
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Forum Posts: 167 | Comment #18 by Major Bones Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:18:25 PM | |
| Hell yeah, the melee mode should be pretty fun! |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #19 by Ix D E A N 0 xI Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:19:49 PM | |
| YAY finally dlc they had it on the dlc bit for ages and please please more story or maybe big sister suits :D |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #20 by strawberry Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:20:29 PM | |
| 2k games = gay... |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #21 by green death35 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:21:28 PM | |
| Sweet. I want single player more than I want multiplayer though. I'll buy it, if only just for the achievements though. And because I love Bioshock and it would kill me knnowing that there is a DLC for it I do not have. |
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Forum Posts: 1433 | Comment #22 by Dustinator Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:22:25 PM | |
| It's probably on disc DLC anyway. cough*RIPOFF*cough.....I'll pass |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #23 by blackholes Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:27:23 PM | |
Level caps already 50, hope that isn't a typo for 60, not that I really mind lol. Woot for more DLC and achievements love Bioshock so need another fix.
And #13 I'm guessing with the sheer amount of people who are above level 40 then more than "4" people bought the Sinclair Solutions pack, cheaper than a McDonalds for more stuff for multiplayer, yes please! |
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Forum Posts: 185 | Comment #24 by ZombieJediMastr Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:28:16 PM | |
| I thought Sinclair Solutions already raised the cap to 50? |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #25 by TNT LotLP Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:32:32 PM | |
| Bugh, multiplayer? Please. Bioshock is a singleplayer game. Period. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #26 by I <3 Achievements Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:33:39 PM | |
Bioshocks strengths was single player, so they ditch that idea and try to make a multiplier game that tops everyting else, when that fails they release pointless DLC.
Why not release co-op survival or something, 2K just ditch the multiplayer it dosent work.. |
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Forum Posts: 2271 | Comment #27 by ponypo2001 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:36:03 PM | |
| So 2 DLC packs of shite now and still no fix to the MP freezes. This DLC can kiss my scrotum. Very poor show from 2k. |
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Forum Posts: 848 | Comment #28 by Flibbity Floid Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:38:16 PM | |
The SP wasn't nearly as epic as the first. Didn't like the idea of multiple Big Sisters. Just my opinion tho. It was great, not epic. The MP however was a wild surprise. Was skeptical due to the "MW2 Ripoff" but they did it alright (mainly b/c not everyone is f'ng noob-tubing everyone). It could use some patch work but I think it's kick@ss for now. Picked up the first DLC but will wait on the second for at least another couple weeks.
Damn bills :( |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #29 by CheesyToast111 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:43:12 PM | |
| Really dislike the multiplayer, the campaign was great but definately will not be getting this. |
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Forum Posts: 96 | Comment #30 by Numbthumb Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:49:29 PM | |
This doesn't make sense. The rank is already 50 for anyone that got the first DLC mode.
Shouldn't it be 60? |
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Forum Posts: 467 | Comment #31 by NawtyCawty Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:52:49 PM | |
| Does anyone really care about multiplayer DLC and a few shitty maps? The multiplayer is crap. |
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Forum Posts: 1204 | Comment #32 by tripleb2k Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:53:51 PM | |
| aw too bad I sold mine cause it's broken and they still haven't fixed it. |
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Forum Posts: 609 | Comment #33 by TheFalcon Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 12:58:37 PM | |
| LOL at completely invalidating the sinclair solutions DLC by having this raise the level cap to 50 anyway. It's 800 points but atleast it has some CONTENT. 6 maps, a new melee mode, a new rebirth feature (whatever that is), raises level cap to 50, and 3 new achievements. I really enjoyed this game's MP so I'll be picking this up because it seems like a good value. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #34 by FPS Fazz Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:00:26 PM | |
| Might purchase it, still to buy the 1st DLC too, and MW2 Stimulus, then the L4D2 stuff later in week, and Mass Effects Kasumi dlc, my oh my, the list goes on =) |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #35 by Hayden267 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:04:30 PM | |
| Where's the single player DLC? I think I might sell this game since they all they want to support is the lame Multiplayer. |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #36 by Brandybooboo19 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:10:50 PM | |
| for the love of god don't let one of the achievements be to reach level 50! I already grinded to 40 and I'm sort of tired of the MP, it was fun but too much grinding! |
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Forum Posts: 147 | Comment #37 by silentbob0 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:15:30 PM | |
| 800MSP for maps on a game that nobody is playing online anymore and is still broken? No thanks 2K. |
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Forum Posts: 102 | Comment #38 by H_Blake_H Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:17:30 PM | |
| The cap is already 50... but now that i see new cheeves ill have to buy this :( |
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Forum Posts: 1149 | Comment #39 by ExtremeRugburn Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:22:03 PM | |
| I wasted Microsoft points on the first BS DLC, only because I thought their would be achievements since it increased the level limit and prior to that every ten levels earned a cheevo. I got hosed. Now they introduce another DLC this time with cheevos. I really dont want to play this games MP anymore, but I guess if I want that 100% I have to, oh the pain. |
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Forum Posts: 257 | Comment #40 by xavieramo Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:23:58 PM | |
Is the cap of 50 for everybody or just for the people who bought the sinclair pack?
Maybe that's why they include it as a feature, because not everybody can get to 50, I believe. |
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Forum Posts: 512 | Comment #41 by Arenazombie Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:25:25 PM | |
@35
Off course they are doing. That was clear from the beginning.
MP-Maps are always quicker to create and take less effeort than SP-Content.
MP-Maps=More money than SP-Levels.
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Forum Posts: 4151 | Comment #42 by VladimirK Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:25:52 PM | |
Just what I wanted, more multiplayer DLC...
Multiplayer is bearable until around level 15 then it's boring.
Just want more SP DLC rather than this.
(Especially if there's more bloody MP achievements).
Also, like others have said, I thought the previous DLC raised the level cap for you.
Haha, if one of the achievements is for getting to a certain level, I can already see that backfiring on them with folk that are already above/at that level. Sure, it might work, but it does seem like one of these things that could easily cause a mess up with the achievements. |
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Forum Posts: 155 | Comment #43 by T-Hybrid Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:32:32 PM | |
| Yay...paid DLC. And I was just 4 achievements away from finishing this game. |
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Forum Posts: 372 | Comment #44 by Ninja Kaspyr 83 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:32:39 PM | |
| honestly with the bullshit they pulled with the sinclair upgrade pack i wouldnt be surprised if this map pack was also on the disc....fuck that...this shit should be free...and i will not be buying it...cause i probably already own it... |
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Forum Posts: 5873 | Comment #45 by Opiate42 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:39:05 PM | |
| No more MP mode achievements please...ugh. |
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Forum Posts: 199 | Comment #46 by ViNyLek Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:40:45 PM | |
| Awesome so now I won;t have to get that first DLC and still lvl up to 50^^ |
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Forum Posts: 115 | Comment #47 by RIVE Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:40:46 PM | |
THREE NEW ACHIEVEMENTS? SON OF A BITCH!
Now I need to re-burrow this game.
They'll be multi-player too. With the exception of the achievement that required me to become the Big Daddy which was in the standard Death Match mode, all I played was Capture the Sister. This DLC is going to make me play something I don't wanna! |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #48 by Paprikeh Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:54:59 PM | |
| I thought the rank was already capped at 50 with the previous dlc? sooo maybe 60 now? |
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Forum Posts: 147 | Comment #49 by silentbob0 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 01:59:52 PM | |
@47. Then don't buy it, I like to get 100% completion on games also. But if you are not going to enjoy it, there is no point.
The multiplayer in this game gets boring fast, by the time I got to level 20, I decided enough was enough - it just isn't worth the hassle and pointless level grinding to max out your gamerscore. |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #51 by VRattleHead Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 02:17:53 PM | |
| Wow. Now all they have to do is fix the goddamn multiplayer so we can actually play it without it freezing every 10 minutes. An absolute slap in the face that they would even consider releasing DLC for the multiplayer and not fix the major problems with it - especially after the game has been out for over 2 and a half months. What a joke. |
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Forum Posts: 848 | Comment #52 by Flibbity Floid Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 02:30:43 PM | |
Seriously think it's got to do with some of your connections. I've only been "booted" from one game b/c of lag and Host Quitting. THAT'S what's killing it. It just needs a patch. I find it much more tolerable than Modern LagGlitch 2 where EVERYONE runs nothing but akimbo shotguns and noob tubes.
I play with about 5 other people and we always get right into matches and usually finish them. |
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Forum Posts: 185 | Comment #53 by Corpse87 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 02:36:54 PM | |
| @4 yes there is sp dlc coming just not sure when! |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #54 by Hanger Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 03:02:22 PM | |
@people wondering why the level cap is the same as the last dlc
I think it basically means you can reach lvl 50 without having to buy the sinclair solutions dlc. |
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Forum Posts: 706 | Comment #55 by lostmotiv Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 03:02:26 PM | |
| ugh so sick of this damn game.. i'm happy with my 1k and doubt i'll pay any attention to any additional multiplayer. Additional single player in the future may be interesting though. |
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Forum Posts: 248 | Comment #56 by Xxtrue2dagamexX Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 03:41:22 PM | |
| 800 points for 50 achievement point you gotta be out your fucking mind |
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Forum Posts: 248 | Comment #57 by Xxtrue2dagamexX Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 03:42:13 PM | |
| i mean rank 50 and 3 new achievements. |
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Forum Posts: 585 | Comment #58 by Blah 2k Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 03:52:16 PM | |
| Multi-player is trash. Single player story wasn't up to snuff of the first BioShock, and too short. I'll pass on the shitty DLC. |
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Forum Posts: 510 | Comment #59 by Battosai343 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 04:12:37 PM | |
| Would you kindly make some single player DLC? I'd buy that; not this multiplayer crap. |
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Forum Posts: 1135 | Comment #60 by H0p3sfalL Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 04:31:02 PM | |
pass.
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Forum Posts: 394 | Comment #61 by yakuzzaa Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 04:32:10 PM | |
| pass at this crappy multiplayer !!! |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #62 by Sa666ath Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 04:40:30 PM | |
| No one cares about the crappy multiplayer! |
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Forum Posts: 121 | Comment #63 by Incognito Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 04:44:02 PM | |
| The multiplayer in this game was crap crap crap. I'll pass until they release some actual "playable" DLC |
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Forum Posts: 467 | Comment #64 by iNf3Rn0 Lan Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:13:10 PM | |
| Absolutely disgusting, more MP achievements. |
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Forum Posts: 117 | Comment #65 by JedEgan Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:17:28 PM | |
| Boring, add single player stuff if you're going to add anything. |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #66 by jin0869 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:24:52 PM | |
| The rankings goin up to 50 so i think that means youll only fight 50s...or atleast i think thats what it means. |
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Forum Posts: 220 | Comment #67 by Tarvu Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:28:54 PM | |
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
Please not reach rank 50.
There's going to be a rank fifty achievement isn't there?
-_-
See y'all in the boosting lobby. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #68 by frankumms Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:34:44 PM | |
| been playing bioshock 1 alllllllllllllll day, cant wait to get this game, idk about the mp tho |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #69 by Black Hearted V Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:46:03 PM | |
@#25 I completely agree
I just hate when game developers do that, adding new achievements when you have already achieved 1000G in the game... nevertheless I am looking forward to this, I do enjoy the multiplayer and everything, but... it is originally a single player game |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #70 by mrlordi1988 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 05:56:42 PM | |
| 2k u cheap twats the mp sucks hard and 3 new achievements thats rubbish will they every learn |
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Forum Posts: 45 | Comment #71 by pinkfluff1 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 06:16:09 PM | |
| as long as we buy it theyl make it whether you like it or not, you dont have to buy it. |
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Forum Posts: 155 | Comment #72 by T-Hybrid Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 06:31:19 PM | |
| I wouldn't be so pissed about DLC achievements if MS didn't link them to your game if you didn't buy it. Right now I've got a pointless 90 or so tagged on to Brutal Legend that I'll never get...and now likely these three as well... |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #73 by rancid for skin Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 07:21:04 PM | |
| yay |
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Forum Posts: 520 | Comment #74 by spunyun Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 07:24:55 PM | |
| 6 maps for $10 isn't too bad, even if they are rehashes or pre-existing environments. |
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Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #75 by dementedlullaby Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 07:57:21 PM | |
| That's awesome if you ask me. Compared to 3 new maps and 2 recycled ones with NOTHING else (cough). New mode, new masks new feature and 6 maps. Schwing. |
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Forum Posts: 203 | Comment #76 by samjustsam Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 08:39:43 PM | |
| that last content should have been free. and this seems like 400 pts too much. dont know if i will get this seeing that im not to much into the multiplayer. |
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Forum Posts: 178 | Comment #77 by PuttyGod Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 08:40:50 PM | |
| Ugh I fucking hate MP achievements, especially when you need to buy them. Why not just add more single player content or a cliche defend the sister horde mode or something? You know, something that doesn't suck as bad as the MP. I might actually buy something like that. |
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Forum Posts: 76 | Comment #78 by ARKeDGE Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 08:46:02 PM | |
| Please GOD fix the freezing issue! That's the only thing stopping me from playing multiplayer again. I'm level 32 and I want to get to 40 before the new maps come out! |
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Forum Posts: 561 | Comment #79 by Jordbrett Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:27:56 PM | |
| Wow sucks for anyone who paid for the first dlc. Now they have to buy this one just for the achievements. They should half price it for anyone who bought the other joke of a dlc. |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #80 by ebrooch7 Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:33:02 PM | |
Nice, psyched to hear this. Loved the multiplayer. Glad that terrible SP isn't getting supported.
The only thing that would make this better is if they raised the level to 60 if you bought both DLC's. |
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Forum Posts: 560 | Comment #81 by MakoBallistic Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:40:26 PM | |
| until they stop this games shitheap of a multiplayer from crashing constantly then whats the point of bringing out dlc. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #82 by roberthabest Tuesday, April 20, 2010 @ 11:59:29 PM | |
| God damn it 2k stop with the shitty multiplayer and come out with single player dlc cuz thats the only good thing about this game |
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Forum Posts: 650 | Comment #83 by xtye Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 01:36:40 AM | |
| Any takers on betting this is also hidden on the disc? |
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Forum Posts: 245 | Comment #84 by IRA GUNNER AFC Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 02:31:03 AM | |
| pls god no lvl 50 :( |
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Forum Posts: 1115 | Comment #85 by KIDDRAGON67 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 03:12:47 AM | |
| Not getting, the only DLC i'm getting for bioshock is SP. |
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Forum Posts: 445 | Comment #86 by MoldyClay87 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 03:29:51 AM | |
It's actually been confirmed that there are 6 missing maps listed on the disc. I don't know if they are full maps or if, in this case, they are just placeholders, but part of them are definitely on the disc.
I actually enjoy multiplayer, lol. I am actually interested in some of the potential maps. If this was real, and not more rip-off shit, it would actually be worth the $10 in comparison to other DLCs for similar things.
And normally, I agree with the rage of "BAW ACHIEVEMENTS FOR MULTIPLAYER", but I liked the MP achievements for BS2. They are so piss easy to unlock. |
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Forum Posts: 249 | Comment #87 by Xavygravy Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 03:35:06 AM | |
| if thats a typo for level 60, i will kill someone |
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Forum Posts: 597 | Comment #88 by Jimbo76 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 04:30:38 AM | |
| Everyone can moan but it will still sell by the bucket load. extra trophies/achievements=$$$$ |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #89 by a dying animal Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 11:01:07 AM | |
| @87 i think it is because a previous DLC raised it to 50. I want to know what the achievments are for this but im gueesing they have one for reaching the new highest level. |
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Forum Posts: 1181 | Comment #90 by xI C0uch P0tat0 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 09:16:16 PM | |
| I loved the story in Bioshock 2. But the multiplayer wasn't good enough to keep me around. I'll guess I'll buy this to get the achievements and complete it a second time. |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #91 by kream jeanz Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 09:58:59 PM | |
| Why waste time on multiplayer DLC? Most of us hate playing the multiplayer anyway. |
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Forum Posts: 185 | Comment #92 by Corpse87 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 @ 10:08:45 PM | |
| mp rocks if you dont agree fine stfu about it already! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #93 by Most Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 06:27:10 PM | |
| Wouldnt it be crazy if they made a coop survival mode where everybody is a big daddy and is killing big sisters. Or if htey added Big sister to MP |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #94 by Most Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 06:30:05 PM | |
| It would be retarted if they added an achievement finish all trials. If they did only 36 more to go. I also agree MP on this game is amazing. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #95 by xKevinnn17x Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 01:47:54 PM | |
| great multiplayer so im getting this map pack and it comes with a new gametype and 3 achievements and 6 maps so good deal ive already got my lvl 50 took me about a week to get so i dont have to worry about getting to lvl 50 so i hope one of the 3 achivements is getting lvl 50 so i would get it out of the way |
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Forum Posts: 203 | Comment #96 by samjustsam Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 02:50:57 AM | |
| i noticed the sinclair solutions tester pack isnt on the marketplace anymore. i searched for it and all i found was avatar items. could it be that it will be included in this dlc? it still depends on my lvl of interest in the multiplayer on wether i will get this or not. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #97 by kenny d Saturday, May 01, 2010 @ 08:38:21 PM | |
idk if I'll get this, but it's not because the multiplayer is crap.
the reason why you whiners are complaining is because:
- you suck
- have a bad connection
hell, if I can find this game's MP more enjoyable at times than MW2, then it's pretty good I say.
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