Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #1 by Topsnot GPF Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:20:13 PM | |
| Great, now they want us to pay for demo's lol |
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Forum Posts: 55 | Comment #2 by Gonzo345 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:20:24 PM | |
| DLC = Disc Locked Crap |
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Forum Posts: 62 | Comment #3 by MJAussie360 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:20:30 PM | |
| Seriously, wtf... |
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Forum Posts: 378 | Comment #4 by Wicelow Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:21:11 PM | |
UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE !!
We'll be paying for demos now...
What's next ? A 50msp charge everytime I start my 360 ??
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Forum Posts: 477 | Comment #5 by rickyfeeney Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:21:30 PM | |
dont listen to this pachter bloke. whenever i hear about him saying something its usually a lot of lies.
but any way if this happens it will be good to have a very long demo as its put to try a game you might really want and cant wait for etc. |
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Forum Posts: 84 | Comment #6 by ViNyLek Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:21:34 PM | |
| I think that if I paid for that PDLC then whatever it is I paid for it should be deducted form the full game, was I to buy it when it comes out! |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #7 by xXN1GH7M4R3Xx Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:22:21 PM | |
Yeah great. As soon as they start doing this say goodbye to demo's.
No free demo = No feel for the game = No buying games i'm unsure of. |
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Forum Posts: 2029 | Comment #8 by Agent Aero Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:22:39 PM | |
Not to keen on this idea. Agree with #1.
Paying for demos it was this seems like to me. |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #9 by DJSambob Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:23:59 PM | |
| I will only buy if we get achievements and the rest of the game is not full retail price - seeing as we would have just paid them to play a demo. Seriously now, do EA think this is a good idea? |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #10 by MOYFplox Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:24:50 PM | |
| This could well be the worst idea in the history of gaming. Do they really think people who are unsure about a game, are going to buy a demo? Fucking poor decision. |
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Forum Posts: 18 | Comment #11 by BerserkMidget08 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:26:57 PM | |
I would rather have a free, shorter demo to get a feel for the game.
It would be ridiculous paying to go a little bit further on a demo and then having to buy the full game!! WHa?? |
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Forum Posts: 417 | Comment #12 by onemorechanc Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:28:48 PM | |
| So they want me to *pay* for a demo? It probably will not be long before they shut down the demo servers ... kiss that purchase goodbye ... |
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Forum Posts: 32 | Comment #13 by Chanens417 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:29:52 PM | |
| The only way I would like this, is if when the full game comes out, I have additional things. Like traditional DLC. If it is just an extended Demo, what is the point of paying for the full game at full price?? |
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Forum Posts: 125 | Comment #14 by Dark Splank Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:30:23 PM | |
| EA haven't heard of try before you buy. They must be the most ignorant dumb fucks ever. |
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Forum Posts: 2083 | Comment #15 by litepink Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:30:24 PM | |
| From the Publishers of Battlefield everyone. |
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Forum Posts: 223 | Comment #16 by Copyright Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:30:57 PM | |
....I'm speechless....
Only EA would think that people will pay for a demo. To top it off, they think we'll pay for a demo and then pay FULL price for the retail.
Unbelievable. |
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Forum Posts: 703 | Comment #17 by lostmotiv Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:31:15 PM | |
| what a load of crap, like screw that if your gonna charge me for a demo that means im more than likely not gonna try your game ahead of time, and thus be more unsure if it's worth my money and thus NOT BUY IT. dumbest idea ever |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #18 by Galaxy Silver Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:31:42 PM | |
| A-hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! EA has has its MIND!!! |
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Forum Posts: 297 | Comment #19 by gingerCHRIS123 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:32:35 PM | |
Anyone like to explain how BF:1943 was a demo of some sort? I'm sure it was a successor to BF:1942 or something?
Oh yeah, and this idea blows. |
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Forum Posts: 1280 | Comment #20 by daninthemix Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:32:37 PM | |
| Why do you say "successfully implemented"? |
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Forum Posts: 459 | Comment #21 by pauly_27 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:33:17 PM | |
"The paid DLC would act as a sort of extended demo that would enable EA to gauge consumer reaction and the market potential of prospective games."
We already have these - they are called free demos. Paying for a demo is only likely to put off a customer. Seriously, if they think this is a good idea, I suggest they change their PR and think tank teams. |
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Forum Posts: 104 | Comment #22 by Gilganomics Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:33:55 PM | |
| I know everything changes with time, but i'll admit I didn't see this coming. I've been getting demos (regardless of their length) for free since....forever. |
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Forum Posts: 23 | Comment #23 by Rogue Gamer 23 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:35:47 PM | |
| now thats EA at it Finest best stuff i have ever seen. next stop EA shutdown this pay demo thing forever after of 1 day of it becoming available to the public. amazing. |
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Forum Posts: 153 | Comment #24 by Mike Pitch Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:36:36 PM | |
Just when I was starting to give EA some credit for doing the $10 initiative... They go and do something completely moronic like this.
Enjoy the lost customers you server-shutdown jerks :( |
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Forum Posts: 110 | Comment #25 by spearian Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:38:41 PM | |
| "The initiative is part of an overall strategy to save EA money" i dont know how they've come to this conclusion. They aren't loosing anything by releasing demo's. If they did somehow manage to get the go ahead with this, i wonder how many people would actually pay for a demo. The board of EA are on another planet! |
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Forum Posts: 55 | Comment #26 by ThingWitch Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:39:32 PM | |
| I wonder... would they have... achievements? |
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Forum Posts: 43 | Comment #27 by hiden Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:43:11 PM | |
| $10-$15 for an 'extended demo'. Funny because about 1 month later you get the full thing for $60. |
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Forum Posts: 931 | Comment #28 by tripleb2k Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:43:31 PM | |
what the...
I prefer the demos where you can explore what you want with a time limit like Just Cause 2 or the original GTA. it doesn't work with every game but it's a good method.
having to pay for 1/5 of the game than pay for the full thing? FAIL |
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Forum Posts: 318 | Comment #29 by Dowgle Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:43:57 PM | |
EA= Idiots.
Why do they think this will be successful? |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #30 by ElviiNKiinG Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:44:06 PM | |
| probably not #26 |
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Forum Posts: 731 | Comment #31 by l.maciver Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:45:09 PM | |
arnt demos surpose to be free, kinda like a trail? cause people would walk up to you offering you a peice of cheese then ask to buyonce you had eatin it...
EA, take THQ for example, there a good company how about you tryin to be a good company? |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #32 by IICyberIXNinja4 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:45:22 PM | |
Oh for goodness sake EA who in there right mind is going to pay for a demo. I remember when EA and Activision were small time now they have ego's as big as the sun.
@ 15 fanboy/girl alert! MW2 and BFBC2 are both good games. |
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Forum Posts: 537 | Comment #33 by StephenJ360 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:45:23 PM | |
| Well, I hate the gaming industry. |
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Forum Posts: 104 | Comment #34 by Gilganomics Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:46:40 PM | |
| I don't need to play a game for 2hrs. to figure out if I like it, especially if all that time I put in isn't carried over to my retail copy. And please avoid using the "dont like it, don't buy" rhetoric this time, what they're proposing could infringe on something I'm enjoying (if this goes through, even meager success at the start could kill off potential free demos), so I feel entitled to have a little "whine" with this stinky-ass cheese. |
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Forum Posts: 532 | Comment #35 by dreamweaver1984 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:46:46 PM | |
| did ea get dropped on the head alot as a kid? |
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Forum Posts: 119 | Comment #36 by smacd Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:47:42 PM | |
| EA can suck it. |
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Forum Posts: 98 | Comment #37 by Iceman9482 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:48:09 PM | |
| Wow, who really wants to spend $10-15 on a demo? And then pay full price for the game? |
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Forum Posts: 96 | Comment #38 by kitch Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:48:14 PM | |
| ea are DOGS KNO8S |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #39 by NaughtyNinja74 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:49:39 PM | |
| HAHA wtf are they thinking...extended game demos? No thanks I'd rather just wait until after the game comes out to see if its any good |
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Forum Posts: 276 | Comment #40 by khamelion Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:49:50 PM | |
it's bad that they think they would take off but from the article, you are essentially paying for more of a demo.
if this doesn't fail miserably due to people not giving them money, we can't complain if this is emulated by other companies. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #41 by Fyzban Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:50:02 PM | |
| Fail |
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Forum Posts: 146 | Comment #42 by Marnit Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:51:49 PM | |
i have 1 word (Abbreviation) for this: WTF
seriously??
valve once did research about pricing
having 75% off the price, increased income (not sales) by almost 15 times
so i dont think this is the way to go, having people pay for dlc, and game dont think a lot of people will do so... |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #43 by Barrowland Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:53:46 PM | |
| Maybe it would include dlc thatu wldnt get with the game such as extra maps or wateva and wld come out a month down the line anyway.if that's the case then I wld consider it for a big game like a must buy or if u got the VIP maps for BC2 on the demo or watever and I can't amagine they wld get rid of free demos.that's just stupid .... Oh wait it's EA. |
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Forum Posts: 124 | Comment #44 by Scable Logo Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:54:21 PM | |
| Well if we're to pay for a demo then the full price of games certainly needs to be lowered by the same amount. There's just no way people will pay for a glorified demo then pay full price for the full game. Maybe the day pigs can fly and hell freezes over. ;) |
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Forum Posts: 731 | Comment #45 by l.maciver Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:55:06 PM | |
| #42, bang on. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #46 by SuffocatingLite Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:56:24 PM | |
Maybe if for some odd reason there were achievements and avatar gear...... and the demo would hold missions not involved in the full game.
If it has these then I would pay. But odds are highly or pretty much impossible that that would ever happen. |
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Forum Posts: 110 | Comment #47 by spearian Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:56:36 PM | |
people shouldn't even be questioning if it includes achievements. Your telling me you'd pay for a demo if there were achievements?!?!?!
Give it a few years when the new xbox is out and these achievements wont be jack shit....would you still be happy that you paid for demo to get some "achievements"
EA get your head out your arse the next time you think of something |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #48 by kfitz9 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:59:01 PM | |
absolutely horrible plan. somebody isnt going to pay 10-15 of their currency to SEE if they want a game to cost 60!
You can buy good games for 10-15 pounds second hand!!! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #49 by pounder60 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 12:59:17 PM | |
| someone needs to get fired for this |
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Forum Posts: 240 | Comment #50 by TheEighthSage Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:00:03 PM | |
| I think y'all are reading this wrong, honestly. You're seeing the words "extended demo" and taking it out of context. What they're meaning is that they're going to make games that are full games on their own, but will still demo the boxed product. Think like...Mass Effect Galaxies, which serves as a compliment to Mass Effect 2, but is a game on its own. Or as they said, Battlefield 1943. That's a game in itself, but it serves as a demo for people new to the Battlefield series. Calm down people.^^; |
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Forum Posts: 490 | Comment #51 by spunyun Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:00:08 PM | |
| I'm not sure if MS & Sony would even allow this. It seems as though it could encourage PC gaming if this became a norm. A lot of people would pay for these though, being able to play "half" the game 2-6 months before it comes out. Can't wait for 2011 when I can say remember when Premium DLC used to be called a beta? |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #52 by SupremeFunk Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:00:13 PM | |
| Maybe I'm too thrifty but this is bull$&%t. I hate money grubbing dlc (dragon age), overpriced xbla games (anything 1200 points), paying for the same game twice (game room) and now this. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #53 by SuffocatingLite Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:00:42 PM | |
| Hey, I said that if they had achievements, avatar gear, and missions not involved in the full game. If it has all of those then I'll buy, but if it's just achievements then EA can kiss my ass. |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #54 by SatansBunny99 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:02:22 PM | |
I think this could be a really good idea, but only if the PDLC is released as a prologue to the full game, with achievements and extra content just like any other DLC.
However, as just about every comment so far has mentioned, this could be abused and descend into a trend of charging for demos :(
Fingers crossed they do the right thing... |
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Forum Posts: 261 | Comment #55 by Brambledamble Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:03:40 PM | |
| Keep digging that hole EA, someday it might be big enough for you dumbfucks to fit in. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #56 by AreUPokey Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:06:02 PM | |
Hey guys, slow down a bit...
I don't think you've digested what the article is saying. These demos would not be like we have now, where a demo comes a month or so before a full release.
These paid demos would act as a test to see if it is worth making a full version of the game at all.
You may not realize it but this was the exact model that Portal followed. It was essentially a demo. And look how that turned out. Don't be so quick to judge EA on this... |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #57 by SatansBunny99 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:06:23 PM | |
Also, I agree with #50.
If the "and would essentially be a very long game demo" part of the statement was never mentioned, I think the comments here would be different. |
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Forum Posts: 835 | Comment #58 by dirge Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:08:14 PM | |
If thats what the guy said can I tell him to F right off?!
Don't like this pdlc idea one bit. |
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Forum Posts: 118 | Comment #59 by BlackRob182 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:08:40 PM | |
At #47 I'm sure achievements will carry over with your GT with new systems that come out.
So EA says "hmm we're losing money so how can we fix this? Oh I got an idea how bout we make demos longer and make people pay for them? GREAT IDEA!"
How about this:
Fix your achievement problems = keeping people interested in your games
Fix your glitches = same thing
Don't shut down servers or just use xbox servers = same thing
Lastly change your attitude = all the above lol
I find myself more and more not playing EA games, not solely on the purpose that I hate EA but the fact that the games are sucking more. Also ruining achievements for games doesn't help either.
It would be nice if they added achievements to the paid demos (which I'm sure they won't) but that wouldn't really make m |
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Forum Posts: 889 | Comment #60 by H0p3sfalL Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:09:35 PM | |
| i dont get it.... i thought the gameing industry was one of the few industries out there that were making so much bank on just about anything. For EA too do something like this is major BS !, i see them taking a real huge hit in the balls for this move. This guy needs to get fired. |
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Forum Posts: 147 | Comment #61 by silentbob0 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:10:29 PM | |
| Sound like a stupid idea to me. Just when I thought E.A were starting to get there act together. Why would anyone want to pay for an extended demo version of a game? Wait a month or so and you can just buy the full game. Then again, people will still throw there money to E.A on this crap. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #62 by Dr Bob Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:11:55 PM | |
Silly people, somehow thinking that the article is about demos.
As #56 has pointed out, it's just an alpha/beta version of the game to see whether people like it or not. If you paid for access, you must obviously be interested in the final product.
I also agree about the Portal statement. Valve have confirmed that Portal was just a test, safely packaged inside The Orange Box in case it failed - which it didn't. |
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Forum Posts: 483 | Comment #63 by MEA7HOOK Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:17:45 PM | |
| Any word on whether or not this "PDLC" content will replace the free demos on every title published by EA in the future? I definitely hope not. It would suck if more publishers started following this precedent so gamers essentially have to pay $15 to "try out" a game and then dish out the full $60 for the retail copy, not to mention the hordes of DLC packs that are sure to follow post-release. Didn't think it was possible for me to lose any more faith in EA. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #64 by a20s Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:17:57 PM | |
| haha disc locked crap too true |
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Forum Posts: 75 | Comment #65 by gabwe Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:19:09 PM | |
EA can burn in hell.
Bunch of thiefs... |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #66 by HitmanofGod Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:25:27 PM | |
| I don't think people really have read this right, what they are saying is they will make a Pilot game like Battlefield 1942. and if it dose well, people like it. they will actually go ahead and make a full game. not a demo but a test game. company's already do this in small scale. and there is already an example of this out there called Gran Turisomo prolog. |
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Forum Posts: 517 | Comment #67 by MachineZed Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:25:30 PM | |
| How long will an "Extended Demo" be? I would also hope buying the Premium Demo gives us a discount on the final product. |
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Forum Posts: 1139 | Comment #68 by Vigor Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:31:48 PM | |
| Never! EA is deeply avoided in my book =) |
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Forum Posts: 3865 | Comment #69 by Nevander Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:34:55 PM | |
| Let's make the games worth the money EA, not charge us more for some of the same crap. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #70 by psychoduck Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:38:41 PM | |
See, this wouldn't be too bad if it was done like this:
With a game like GTA4 as an example, you pay for your $10 game. In that game, you get to control Niko as he flees from the middle east. Your levels take places in a small Eastern Europe village thats next to a dock. You do a few missions, that enable you to eventually talk to a mob leader who will help you stowaway to America in return for you doing him a favour which acts as your last mission. Have some side missions too, to earn money.
Basically something that enables you to get a feel for the game, without actually featuring anything that's in the full game. So you feel like you've had an extra. Attach a couple of achievements to the demo (unlocked in the demo, but not removing from the 1000 of the full game)
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #71 by r0undy 11 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:38:51 PM | |
Why would people do this, this is complete bulls**t EA.
When the game is out u can rent it for a week for £7 from blockbuster and probably complete it, no one in there right mind is gonna pay that to try a game. |
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Forum Posts: 510 | Comment #72 by spilner100 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:38:54 PM | |
| The day the free demo dies, great |
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Forum Posts: 189 | Comment #73 by tsydrown Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:38:58 PM | |
Seems like you're all taking this "Extended Demo" phrase a bit too literally. I'm not for paying for Demo's, and as much as the Games Industry is in a weird place right now, what I gathered from that is not that it'll be an "Extended Demo" as such, more of a prequel to the Retail game.
It'll be interesting to see what they actually do, as we can all take our own opinions from this statement, but until it's implemented (let's face it, we, the consumers, don't have naff all say in it) all we're doing is guessing.
If it is indeed an "Extended Demo" that costs, then I can see a huge backlash, but if it's more of a "Prequel" then fair enough, I can understand.
But let's be honest, SC: Conviction, short Demo, inmpressed me tonnes, was gonna buy anyway but the Demo confirmed it, Ubisoft |
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Forum Posts: 1139 | Comment #74 by Vigor Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:39:37 PM | |
| @66 they should pay us to test their crap, not the other way around. |
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Forum Posts: 189 | Comment #75 by tsydrown Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:39:38 PM | |
*cont*
has earned £40 off me straight up! That's how it should be done, short, sweet, to the point and very impressive.
EA, take note . . . |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #76 by Adkrazy Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:41:06 PM | |
| I ca only see people buying them if you get achievements on them but i seriously doubt they would do that tbh |
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Forum Posts: 198 | Comment #77 by samjustsam Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:43:22 PM | |
| worst idea ever in the history of gaming! leave it to EA to try to make as much money as they can. greedy a-holes. |
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Forum Posts: 13 | Comment #78 by ghdht369 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:46:19 PM | |
| If its a game i really want and has achievements i might buy it |
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Forum Posts: 67 | Comment #79 by PluralAces Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:49:16 PM | |
WOW...if they gave you a coupon to buy the full game for $15 off then I say its a good idea...
if not then this idea blows |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #80 by BenAlexQ Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:49:48 PM | |
| EA must be on crack. |
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Forum Posts: 338 | Comment #81 by GILLHUHN Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:50:26 PM | |
| Sounds like EA is trying to take the money and run once again why cant game companies focus on games anymore what happened to the days when devs cared about making us happy and not the contents of our wallet |
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Forum Posts: 333 | Comment #82 by angryassasin857 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:50:55 PM | |
| Ha , bwua ha ha ha ha ha. EA , ha ha ha, when I picture the CEO of EA I picture a monkey in a tuxedo, smoking a cigar pushing buttons that make all the desicions for that company. and there are little circus midgets in the backround doing backflips to the ringling bros theme song. meanwhile a fully grown elephant is riding a unicycle around trying frantically to get away from the little mouse that is chasing it. omg thanks EA !! I needed a good laugh when I got up this morning |
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Forum Posts: 437 | Comment #83 by vgfanatic1 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:51:34 PM | |
This is a joke, right?
...right? |
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Forum Posts: 133 | Comment #84 by Typeonegativ71 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 01:57:51 PM | |
I can see both pros and cons to this. If this is released in conjunction with a free demo, it would allow players who enjoyed the free demo to play something longer in the period between the game announcement and the game release (giving us a fix to tide us over I suppose). I would have liked this for a title I had been eagerly anticipating such as Wolfenstein. The long demo would also be a bonus if it included the additional 250 achievement pts usually tied to DLC.
On the other hand, it would suck if:
1) there was no discount on the full version of the game if you bought the long demo
2) More unique games that you have been looking forward get killed because of low "market demand"
3) It spoils the full version experience because of revealing too much/causing EA to release signifi |
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Forum Posts: 75 | Comment #85 by Stressneivo Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:03:52 PM | |
| This is the most retarded piece of crap news I ever heard! This DLC to make loads of money has to stop |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #86 by Balverine Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:04:00 PM | |
| Why are they even saying "extended demo"? You can't play the god damn DLC without the fucking game. Useless.. |
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Forum Posts: 64 | Comment #87 by x JPeeper x Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:04:38 PM | |
| Just when I think EA is starting to get on track they are going to implement this garbage. EA is truly a joke. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #88 by frankumms Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:07:10 PM | |
what idiot would pay for a demo, especially if you are intending on buying the full thing,
it would make sense if it was more like a prologue, and those levels in the dlc arent included, but they cant take away from the game |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #89 by Pink Devil Fish Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:17:12 PM | |
| Bad bad idea. Who wants to pay for a demos that they have been playing for free for years anyways? |
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Forum Posts: 77 | Comment #90 by EnkiduV3 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:17:25 PM | |
| @19: 1943 was a demo of sorts for Bad Company 2. Anyone who has played the first level of Bad Company 2 would know that it was basically 1943 all polished up. The same character models, jeep design, gun design, and general landscape appearance. Granted 1943 didn't have the Demolition 2.0 in it, and I was left wondering why 1943 didn't look as good as that first level also... |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #91 by yannyman Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:18:42 PM | |
As @50 says, some games might benefit from this. As a different example I'm looknig forward to the Dead Rising "bridging chapter" DLC.
If EA use the "demo" as a way to get feedback & improve games while getting you excited with a DLC preview- potential win
If EA use this as a way to release a crappy beta & have people PAY THEM for the right to play it only to have it cancelled because of lack of interest - epic fail |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #92 by MCFC Blue Nose Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:19:24 PM | |
| am thinking that it would be extra content rather than a normal demo |
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Forum Posts: 101 | Comment #93 by sho91 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:19:26 PM | |
| EA= always trying a new way to milk the public, and they wonder why people leech games for free, and why would you buy dlc for a game that you haven't played the full version, some demo's can be deceiving... |
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Forum Posts: 1450 | Comment #94 by Schism Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:21:38 PM | |
| lol this will just drop there sales....as after playing the really long demo people will realized the game is shit...hhaha |
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Forum Posts: 1219 | Comment #95 by ClutchPapi34 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:21:48 PM | |
| why would you pay for a demo and then pay for the game..?that doesn't make sense. |
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Forum Posts: 188 | Comment #96 by EA Shenron Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:23:52 PM | |
| They don't know how to make a valuable DLC (see Chapter of Deceit for Army of TWO : TFD) and they now want to sell "extended" demo ... No comment |
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Forum Posts: 510 | Comment #97 by Battosai343 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:23:57 PM | |
| I'm with #83. This better be a joke... |
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Forum Posts: 1663 | Comment #98 by newbsicle Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:28:24 PM | |
| pffft! I don't even play demos now. What's the point in wasting my time when I can rent the game for $5.00 and have it completed the next day? |
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Forum Posts: 660 | Comment #99 by The Bum-Mobile Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:29:39 PM | |
I knew this whole digital distribution idea would be the end of us, KNEW IT!
*searches through piles of CDs and DVDs* |
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Forum Posts: 804 | Comment #100 by its delicious Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:30:39 PM | |
| The only way this could work is to give the buyer of the "demo" an immediate discount or rebate on the purchase of the full game. Otherwise, they're flies scaling a mountain of shit. |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #101 by G SERIOUS Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:31:18 PM | |
| Seems like EA think were all cows ready for milking |
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Forum Posts: 552 | Comment #102 by MakoBallistic Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:32:44 PM | |
| sounds like a whole lot of fail to me. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #103 by Jtpearl Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:35:28 PM | |
| Could be a good idea if anything you unlock carrys over to the full game as will as starting in the full game where ever you end at in the demo. |
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Forum Posts: 3643 | Comment #104 by Opiate42 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:37:31 PM | |
I have no interest in paying to be EA or any other publishers quality assurance tester. That's what they pay their own staff for.
Agree with 98 - I play the demo once, then delete, hardly worth the money. |
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Forum Posts: 139 | Comment #105 by dangerbakili Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:38:02 PM | |
| hm.....unless you get achievements in the demo... not worth it... |
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Forum Posts: 175 | Comment #106 by Dredgon Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:48:26 PM | |
| @70 - That sounds awesome, like prequel DLC! I don't mind paying for DLC for great RPGs like Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2, but I'd only pay for stuff before the actual game if it was as #70 says! |
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Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #107 by TheKillerTheme Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:53:24 PM | |
| EA = BASTARDS! |
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Forum Posts: 673 | Comment #108 by GreaseMonkeyGB Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:56:05 PM | |
@4 don't give them ideas, you never know whos watching *shify eyes* lol
like #106 said, no cheevos = no sale |
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Forum Posts: 1254 | Comment #109 by Chuppernicus Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:59:12 PM | |
| Paid episodic content would be great. I think "demo" is the wrong word to use here. These paid episodic demos should be the first part of a game and have achievements and the cost of the demo should come off the full version. Many ways this can work out. Would love to try games and earn achievements to see how I like it, then if I do buy the rest of the game. Don't see this model replacing demos now, imagine playing 3 hours of a game and getting achievements, could work. |
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Forum Posts: 1782 | Comment #110 by ponypo2001 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 02:59:22 PM | |
| Anyone else surprised that this is coming from EA? didn't think so. I'd maybe let it slip if they didn't release buggy crap and shut servers a week after launch. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #111 by Porta1980 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:00:00 PM | |
@90 battlefield1943 used the bad company 1 game engine not the new one.
I must have misunderstood what a demo is for. I thought itwas for their benefit to get people interested who might not be even thinking of getting said game. I didn't pay any attention to bioshock till I played the awesome demo! And I loved the game however, if I had to pay like £8 for that demo I wouldn't have bothered and so wouldn't have bought the game. This is dumbest idea ever, and I hope they loose lots of cash from this! |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #112 by ArmeniusLOD Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:04:56 PM | |
Sure this would be a good idea, so long as they sell the retail product at a reduced price and my progress in the "demo" carries over. If the demo is $10-$15, then I want the full game for $45-$50. Status-quo works both ways; you can't just change it to the advantage of one side.
This is just a horrible idea. If they are going to gauge the market reaction to a title from sales of a demo, then we are not going to see many games in the future because the hardcore gamers are not going to buy this crap. |
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Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #113 by slykatayama69 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:10:12 PM | |
| Geezus, first mandatory Healthcare now paying money for demos? At least leave video games alone... |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #114 by marccookie13 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:11:01 PM | |
| this is actually a good idea IMO if they are things like the splintercell conviction prologe. I mean if you pay the same ammount as say BF 1943 and its some stuff that isnt in the game then i dont mind. However if it does mean paid demo's then EA can shove it! |
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Forum Posts: 59 | Comment #115 by Darth Kris Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:12:55 PM | |
| Its cool to move some more jobs over seas and rip us off in the process? |
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Forum Posts: 229 | Comment #116 by THC BLUNTED Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:13:55 PM | |
I agree with #112.
IMO this sounds like something the government would do if they ran the video game industry(I wouldnt doubt it happening someday, look at GM and healthcare). I can truely say I will NEVER buy a game demo EVER. |
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Forum Posts: 59 | Comment #117 by Darth Kris Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:16:12 PM | |
| Why cant they just finish a game anymore? Every good game on the market is around 75.00 when your done downloading all the extra's. I think EA is owned by a gas company. |
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Forum Posts: 83 | Comment #118 by zr122 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:17:07 PM | |
| This is absolute bullshit. There is no way in hell I'm paying for a demo. If I want a game, I'll buy it. That's it. I refuse to pay $10 to $15 for a demo, and then another $60 for the full game itself. EA can suck it. |
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Forum Posts: 1715 | Comment #119 by Achiever TM Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:17:21 PM | |
nice! keep with the great work but i won't give you any cent for demos.
"This time, we think that EA is on the right path," concluded Pachter.
this path will not be walked with my money ^^ |
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Forum Posts: 497 | Comment #120 by oRedBull Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:18:57 PM | |
I am understanding the reasoning behind this move, but how they're going about it is just wrong. The whole point of a demo is to offer a free sample so that people can be persuaded to buy/put off a game. Making someone pay for a demo defies the point of bringing in uninformed consumers. MW2, everyone was aware of MW1 and anticipated a good game, thus removing the need for a demo. This system will work a lot better with two (1 if the 1st suggestion is already happening) changes:
1) Release a free demo/beta alongside the premium
2) Have a voucher/code that reduces the price of the full retail game. Of course it's not as easy as that, but it will give the purchasers re-assurance of their pre-release purchase. |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #121 by timm the zombie Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:21:41 PM | |
I don't see a problem if it's exclusive "prequel" content that isn't available in game. Or if they offer a discount to those who purchase both. Or even exclusive in-game content like outfits, weapons or even maps.
My problem would be paying $15, then $60, then $16 for post Launch DLC.
I think that Fable's Pub Games was cool, it gave an idea of what to expect in game and allowed you to build some money so you get a boost once the game came out. It also was free with a pre-order. |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #122 by ArmeniusLOD Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:23:02 PM | |
| I just wanted to add that if it was a prologue of some sort to the final game and was 400-800 MSP ($5-$10), not a demo of the final game costing twice the price, then I would consider buying it. It had damn well better be worth my time and money, though. People are supposed to get paid for testing a game, not the other way around. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #123 by Prof Wernstrom Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:23:24 PM | |
| TBS Nuka Cola for president! I agree 100%. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #124 by Smokey6700 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:24:12 PM | |
As stated many times before but lots of the whiners forgot to read is that if you bought battlefield 1943 you have already bought PDLC.
(The PDLC would be sold for $10 or $15 through Xbox Live and PlayStation Network, and would essentially be a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009’s Battlefield 1943)
Its not "Extended demos" its just arcade titles released before the full game to harvest all the likes and dont likes from people.
#74 I laughed for a long time after reading this that is just the one of the most stupid comment i have ever read.
Lets say you are a salesman would you pay people to get what you are selling for free ?
Its kinda funny how people forget to read the article and just scroll down as fast as they can to whine about everything they dont understand. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #125 by Badlandz Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:35:54 PM | |
| EA Cash, Its in the bank. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #126 by samurai_yak Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:36:00 PM | |
| dont know if any1 said this already but ps3 had a game called gran turismo 4 prologue which cost $$$ and was a large demo. you still had to pay for gran turismo 4 when it came out after |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #127 by Neomalysys Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:44:16 PM | |
| Seems like a bad idea. They want to release a paid demo then see how well it sells before releasing the full game at full price. So anybody without broad band is out of the decision and you have to pay to play a demo of the game. This won't work because even Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 wouldn't get released with this plan. Think about it there saying pay to test our game to see if its good then will release it then you can pay $60+ u.s. to buy the game. Profiteering never works. |
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Forum Posts: 948 | Comment #128 by Dr Popodopolus Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:49:54 PM | |
| #124 Exactly. I bet most people don't even read this properly they just see the words "EA" and "pay for demos" then think, "Right now I'm gonna go down in the comments section, jump on the bandwagon and moan like all the other people that haven't got a clue what they're on about because it makes me look cool" |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #129 by Shark Pedrera Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 03:51:40 PM | |
I finally figured out what EA means... Extremely Absurd
how can they think that paying for a demo is a good idea ?
only thing worse are the idiots who will be paying it... |
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Forum Posts: 1263 | Comment #130 by Mightymango Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:00:03 PM | |
| I wonder how many of those games achivements will be glitched or not possible once the demos are taken down or integrated incorrectly. |
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Forum Posts: 41 | Comment #131 by slapp77 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:00:04 PM | |
| first Obama, now this |
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Forum Posts: 389 | Comment #132 by conel33 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:10:19 PM | |
| No one in their right mind will pay $15 for a demo |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #133 by Darkblade93 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:15:40 PM | |
WOW @131 really?
Anyway, wtf? Where's Activision? Can't imagine that they want to be left on this scam... |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #134 by Damodar Thade Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:19:44 PM | |
| Pay to play an "extended" demo then pay full price for the full game... gtfo isn't just asking you to pay twice for one game?!?!?! |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #135 by Zeekman LaRude Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:29:26 PM | |
| Demos for PAY?!? I can't even see an E3 demo for a far-off highly anticipated game getting away with charging $1. "Low cost marketing" because the expense is passed on to YOU! Paying for the right to see an advertisement is an orgasmic future! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #136 by Staydown046 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:38:32 PM | |
This is a good idea:)
Making more money, so they can release new DLC for BFBC2 and make more games...
I like this idea...:) |
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Forum Posts: 135 | Comment #137 by FOXHOUND MGS4 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:41:18 PM | |
| EA = Extortionist Arseholes! |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #138 by AlexandyrZho Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:42:45 PM | |
| If this doesn't turn out to be just a huge misunderstanding by some corporate ass who knows absolute jack about gaming, and this goes into effect and actually kills several potentially good games, I will officially quit gaming. Cold turkey. I actually agreed with the $10 initive thing they were doing, because it makes sense to battle the used game buisiness. But this just seems like someone wanted to sound awesome and announced this in a press release without knowing what the hell they were talking about. "IF" your saved progress carried over, it would be a little more feasable, but still, paying money for a demo that may or may not be in the completed game... no thanks. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #139 by AlexandyrZho Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:45:20 PM | |
| Oh yeah, and let's all move our offices to China, cause it's cheaper there! Go to hell, EA, go to hell. |
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Forum Posts: 442 | Comment #140 by Mtld Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:46:40 PM | |
| Bad idea! |
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Forum Posts: 326 | Comment #141 by Aki2403 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:57:50 PM | |
So, If I'm reading this right, EA want us to pay to be Alpha/Beta Testers :S
something I used to get to do whilst I was at uni, wait for it, for FREE. >.<
It's all well and good if it's a stand-alone game, but if, for example, it was to be like a Fable II Episode (where you play part of the game). Heck maybe you might even be able to start working towards that 1K. But if you can't transfer your save across, invariably have to start from scratch again, then it's a MASSIVE waste of time, money, resources, and inevitably, the quickest way to diminish a games fan-base. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #142 by Erwo the Elder Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:58:37 PM | |
| I agree with what most people said. Paying before the game is ridiculous and gouging! Good way to kill a player base. |
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Forum Posts: 142 | Comment #143 by Steel Stealth Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:59:12 PM | |
| What's next? Unlocking achievements in those PDLC demo's? |
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Forum Posts: 329 | Comment #144 by MrMario2011 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 04:59:34 PM | |
| FUCK EA!!!! I'm not paying for a fucking DEMO!!! Fuck you EA! FUCK YOU!!!! |
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Forum Posts: 346 | Comment #145 by yakuzzaa Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:07:23 PM | |
....maybe a joke ?????
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #146 by boond0ck 83 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:08:04 PM | |
| Gotta love EA, they don't even pretend to give a shit about the gamer. They just come right out there and stick it to us, no hiding at all. I guess we appreciate your honesty EA, but you won't be getting my money for a demo. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #147 by CRAZYHERETIC Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:11:02 PM | |
| We are doomed. |
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Forum Posts: 1257 | Comment #148 by Darth Cuda Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:14:24 PM | |
| What the fuck? How damn money hungry are these bastards anyway? I can't belive this shit...Mabye and its only a Maybe I would be justified IF the $10 or $15 went toward purchase price of the finished product but this crap...It's like Sony charging people for GT5 prologue (Basically a demo for those unaware). |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #149 by chemicaledge Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:20:14 PM | |
| cool, EA found another way to get money from the stupid 12 year olds that use mommy's credit card. |
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Forum Posts: 389 | Comment #150 by Pooly93 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:23:03 PM | |
No surprise EA would pull something like this, if enough people don't buy the stuff they put out then maybe they'll give up on it.
The free DLC with new games is alright, the fact you have to pay £10 if you get it pre-owned is a bit silly though, them doing this is just ridiculous though :/ |
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Forum Posts: 155 | Comment #151 by lonewolf0913 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:25:53 PM | |
If you purchased a retail price game, and it wasn't everything you hoped it to be would you still pay $10 to $15 for the DLC?
If I don't know if I like the game, why would I pay $10 or $15 for the "prequel" or "demo" or whatever you want to call it.
To find out that it's not what I was hoping for.
Or worse to spend the money to realize you really like the game only to find out that EA decided not to complete the full game?
If it is really a prequel to the game and a demo is available to see if it is worth picking up in the first place...
Then it would be the same as picking up a DLC after release, and I'd consider it.
If the prequel is the demo and they want me to pay $10 - $15 in order to test a game to see if I'm willing to pay retail price for it...
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #152 by Komrade Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:28:36 PM | |
| Battlefield 1943 felt like a lot more than a long demo. That game was great. If they're looking to release more BF1943s then great. If they just want money for a demo, I have no interest in buying it. |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #153 by ZoopSoul Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:30:10 PM | |
| Right when I think Activision is the most evil game company, EA comes out of the shadows. Checkmate. Your move, Activision. "If you don't buy our games for $79.99, we'll break this puppy's snout!" |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #154 by Stabby Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:31:13 PM | |
Friggin ridiculous. "Please fork over $10 to try this game before you pay $60 for the real one..."
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU............... |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #155 by Balverine Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:31:17 PM | |
Stupid idea is stupid.
1) Need the game to play the DLC.
2) Nobody will pay for a demo..
3) Nobody will pay for DLC if they haven't tried the game yet.
EA, you the dumbest fucking company I know.. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #156 by Balverine Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:31:44 PM | |
Your*
TOO BAD |
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Forum Posts: 1046 | Comment #157 by ExtremeRugburn Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:32:31 PM | |
| Let us hope that by Premium Downloadable Conbtent(PDLC)they mean it is additional content to the game and not an actual demo. I definately wont be paying $10-$15 for a demo and them another $60 on the same game. Maybe if they subtracted the initial amount paid for the demo from the retail price then it might be worth it, otherwise no way. |
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Forum Posts: 76 | Comment #158 by Esoteric Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:34:30 PM | |
| EA suck my dick , atleast that's free you money grabbing shit bag. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #159 by MoldyPond Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:36:29 PM | |
| JESUS CHRIST!!! Why isn't EA out of business yet? The world really would function perfectly fine without them. |
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Forum Posts: 41 | Comment #160 by Bruce14 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:41:28 PM | |
| you people are absolutely retarded. It would be a paid for demo of the game that you could play IF YOU WANT. You can buy the retail and shut up if you don't want to |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #161 by Echo 41011 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:45:55 PM | |
I'm going to have to wait and see on this. If it's paying for demos, then it's one of the most boneheaded move I've ever seen. If it's along the lines of Portal -> Portal 2, then I say it's a good move, fewer useless full games out there.
As for the $10 initiative. I bet I am in the minority but it was a brilliant move on the part of EA. Hopefully, this works as well as that did. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #162 by Wardy_14 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:48:24 PM | |
| seriously why are so many people hating this?? Nowhere does it say that these PDLC things will replace demos, just that they will offer a better overview/background/prequel to the game. It sounds like they will be used for new concepts like Mirrors Edge etc to help EA gauge how popular the concepts would be. Id hope that some cool concepts that might never be made into full games my be tested like this much in the same way Portal was. I myself am looking forward to this!! |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #163 by NickBeam21 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 05:56:58 PM | |
| @91 exactly, what happens when you pay $10-15 for an 'extended demo', only for it to get shelved anyways. waste of money, and we all know we'll never see that money again. |
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Forum Posts: 90 | Comment #164 by perryboy26 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:00:50 PM | |
| EA is the new Activision which was the old EA. Oh no I've gone cross-eyed :p |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #165 by Fata1Stryke Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:07:17 PM | |
| Sounds dumb. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #166 by paquinplus1 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:15:50 PM | |
| Is it April 1st already? If not, this just reeks of epic fail. |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #167 by DrZMvP554 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:16:59 PM | |
| EA+Activision= Bastards |
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Forum Posts: 108 | Comment #168 by MFCH 37 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:19:24 PM | |
So instead of charging us to unlock parts of the disk after we pay full price for the game, they want us to pay to unlock disk content BEFORE we buy the full price version.
On the plus side, I would have paid $15 for just BFBC2: RUSH or CONQUEST (with achievements) instead of a shitty campaign and more online modes. |
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Forum Posts: 975 | Comment #169 by Devil Sora Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:26:41 PM | |
| innitially thats what I was thinking #50. . . make a prequel to the game that would play the exact same as the released game given this is a great idea for new IP's BUT for games like its existing franchises such as BF, ME, DA:O so on and so forth you already have a fan base. . . so you know they will buy the full game. . .still I'm hessitant on the whole idea. . . if they do indeed sell new IP demos thats a risky business. . . how many people will buy? Its a gamble and I personally get where they are coming from when it comes to it finacially but I doubt the payoff is worth it. . . probablly not. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #170 by Frypot Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:27:39 PM | |
| Fucking awful idea X( |
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Forum Posts: 413 | Comment #171 by Tidus755 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:39:12 PM | |
Game developpers = great
Game publishers = incarnation of Santa on earth
Ok, time to be more serious, I think if they release stuff like BF1943 it could be a decent idea. However, paying for a demo or for DLC (called game **ADD-ONS**) before its release is just NOT logical. |
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Forum Posts: 66 | Comment #172 by Dark Knight1990 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 06:55:18 PM | |
| The sad thing is a bunch you you idiots will buy it anyway... |
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Forum Posts: 817 | Comment #173 by Snoop QC Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:04:33 PM | |
| Well, imagine paying for the demo of an unreleased game that would probably have an awful MP with laggy servers! This is why I don't buy too much EA games anyway! |
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Forum Posts: 1858 | Comment #174 by tehapoc Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:06:36 PM | |
| OnLive is looking pretty tempting right now. |
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Forum Posts: 109 | Comment #175 by Purant Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:15:09 PM | |
| Who actually buys this crap seriously |
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Forum Posts: 357 | Comment #176 by BLOMBOMB Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:23:48 PM | |
| Jeez.. wish I could get paid to have such GREAT ideas as this!! /sarcasm |
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Forum Posts: 160 | Comment #177 by The Globalizer Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:35:17 PM | |
| Depends on what this actually means. If it's separate content, I think this works. If it's paying for demos, well, good luck with that, EA. |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #178 by Allan Caesar Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:40:24 PM | |
Thank god Mass Effect 2 was made by Bioware and not EA, same with Dragon Age.
What happen to you EA? You guys use to make such great games... and now your the most greedy bastards in the world.
And yeah, lets move MORE jobs to China. FUCKING IDIOTS NEED TO BE SHOT. |
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Forum Posts: 355 | Comment #179 by darquesyde Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 07:55:14 PM | |
| EA...sheesh, it just keeps getting worse and worse. Closed servers, pay-for-play "demos". Going to be pretty hard to get consumer reaction if no one participates. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #180 by Duken13 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 08:09:48 PM | |
Being from Montreal, I feel offended...
Also, our game developers are not that good... |
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Forum Posts: 2316 | Comment #181 by elephantd Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 08:22:57 PM | |
| i would pay if it had a achievements lmao. |
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Forum Posts: 331 | Comment #182 by Cyler12 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 08:24:00 PM | |
| EA=GAY |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #183 by HolidayBrick Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 08:28:38 PM | |
I haven't bought an EA game new EVER. Mass Effect was a gift, Mirror's Edge was free, Rock Band 1 and 2 were used, BFBC was used, and any others I'm forgetting were used.
Activision may release sequel after unending sequel, and screw up internal business, but they aren't doing nearly as much as EA to drive away their customers. |
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Forum Posts: 997 | Comment #184 by yamayamayaamaa Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 08:54:52 PM | |
| EA drones will pay. |
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Forum Posts: 255 | Comment #185 by blindreper Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:06:04 PM | |
| i hate companies and their strong strong love for money. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #186 by 357 magnum Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:11:32 PM | |
junk
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Forum Posts: 69 | Comment #187 by Deadly Noob92 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:12:35 PM | |
| lol this is crap, paying for demos? |
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Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #188 by Tortoises- Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:13:14 PM | |
| are we talkin achievements? |
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Forum Posts: 401 | Comment #189 by _DaNnY_ Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:19:09 PM | |
| Yeah... they're forgetting a little thing named RENTALS. |
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Forum Posts: 866 | Comment #190 by Lord Montymort Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 09:53:29 PM | |
| If it's stuff like Battlefield 1943 thats fine because that was a great game, but if there expecting me to buy the demo level of a game that is bad, very bad, the next thing you know EA will make all there online games pay to play. |
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Forum Posts: 2958 | Comment #191 by Gorilla Stomper Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:07:11 PM | |
| Sigh. Just another way to try and fuck us out of our money. |
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Forum Posts: 489 | Comment #192 by nfgmusicPaul Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:21:31 PM | |
A good idea would be if u paid for the PDLC early enough that u would get a discount on the full retail disc...
What do you all think? |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #193 by XJeffryX Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:34:55 PM | |
| EA's just gone downhill especially recently with the abomination that was Army of Two:The 40th Day, and the server issues with Bad Company 2 and the Dr Pepper DLC still not being out. This is what happens when you let old business men run game companies. Gamers make good games and know what gamers want and what's appealing to them and not completely bass ackwards. EA needs a clean up like the did to Infinity Ward but on a much larger scale. |
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Forum Posts: 23 | Comment #194 by Holydozer 2 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:40:49 PM | |
| haha this isnt gonna save them money its gonna make them a boat load of it. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #195 by cheeta prime Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:41:53 PM | |
| if they want to gauge how well the game will sell why not do what activision did with blur and release a beta and have you repley directly to them |
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Forum Posts: 232 | Comment #196 by THE130173 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:06:51 PM | |
Empty my
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #197 by xKTAx Ultimo Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:39:01 PM | |
| Wow....so you'll basically pay 70-75 dollars per game(demo and game) and to top that off they are moving to China? Wow what the fuck EA? You guys really are pieces of shit. |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #198 by Rastaman20 Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:55:54 PM | |
1. moveing there studios to china or sumwhere else for cheaper ccosts? WTF idk where there studio is but if its in the USA you are takeing jobs away from hardworking citizens you dumbshit and u wonder why the US econemy is shit right now
2. i will never/ wont ever pay for a demo to jack shit stupid marketing move if u ask me because b4 long there gunna charge 2msp everytime u hit a button on the 360 controller in wich i will gladly sell my 360 along with every game and get a FREE NON PAYING PS3 ( thats if xbox goes full JEW) |
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Forum Posts: 154 | Comment #199 by ANIM4L Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:56:15 PM | |
| F**K EA! If there was ever a company that should be bombed off the face of the planet it should be them. EA is the worst when it comes to DLC for its games, and don't get me started on their retail games, server closings, etc.. If EA didn't publish games for other game houses they wouldn't get a dime from me. I thought it was clever to send one of these to EA's offices http://www.8776shipit.com/ |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #200 by Allan Caesar Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:50:57 AM | |
| EA Sports, Its a broken game. |
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Forum Posts: 232 | Comment #201 by SuperWoody64 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 01:02:11 AM | |
This is the dumbest idea I've heard in quite some time (save for making a green day only rock band).
ME2 and BadCompany2 DLC situations are only good because the games are good. You can have all the DLC, FreeLC or PDLCD you want but if the game is carp then the plan for it all will be too. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #202 by xAtomicHero Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 01:15:18 AM | |
| Does any of this DLC controversy ever happen on the wii? |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #203 by AzureHaseo Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 01:48:01 AM | |
| Wow paid demos? Wtf is happening to gaming these days? I kinda hate that gaming went mainstream, we never used to get screwed as bad as we are now a days. Just like the sony degrating demos. Its becoming all about the money for every company anymore not about making the best game possible. I find this extremely unsettling as to where this is going in the future. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #204 by LovableCrazee Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:07:37 AM | |
does anyone else remember when game companies used to want to ship demo discs to your house for free? this is quite the change...
the best way to protest this? don't buy them. Yes, it really is that easy.
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Forum Posts: 316 | Comment #205 by Its Fooga Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:11:15 AM | |
| @204 But unfortunately...people will. It WOULD be EA that would think up something this stupid. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #206 by DerickYEAHH Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:31:51 AM | |
| LIKE a demo, not a demo guys. think of it as buying an arcade game that is similar to the actual game. try to have an open mind people. |
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Forum Posts: 110 | Comment #207 by PIKERB10 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:39:23 AM | |
| rather it being a demo or lik a demo im still not going to pay for it i dnt even play demos now because their stupid and they dont give you the good parts they pretty much give you the part where they teach you controls or the worst part of the game. THE WORST DEMO EVER---SPLINTER CELL: CONVICTION. Thought about buying it until i played the DEMO |
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Forum Posts: 173 | Comment #208 by mugginyouoff Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:46:57 AM | |
What a joke. I hope they read the feedback on these kind of sites.
Who the hell wants to pay for a demo? |
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Forum Posts: 2083 | Comment #209 by litepink Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:50:19 AM | |
#32- I have respect for BFBC, it just gets annoying that every thread or article about MW2 map packs turns into "What a ripoff, BFBC2 had FREE DLC". Just pointing out that Activision isn't the only company trying to suck extra money from us. So, I need to send some of the smack back since MW2 gets it constantly.
(#32 referenced my earlier comment, #15) |
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Forum Posts: 39 | Comment #210 by Ptit Ver Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 03:23:01 AM | |
| @206 Open mind or open wallet ? |
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Forum Posts: 2457 | Comment #211 by Ryot Control Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 03:32:05 AM | |
You all say this now... but when you start seeing what SA starts to throw out there, I hope you aren't the ones supporting this crap.
EA is looking for unique ways to get us to pay more than 60 dollars for the retail game, and DLC is the way to do it. |
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Forum Posts: 2457 | Comment #212 by Ryot Control Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 03:33:27 AM | |
| When I wrote SA, I meant EA. Don't buy sub-quality, trickle content DLC! |
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Forum Posts: 98 | Comment #213 by monk3boy Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 03:40:05 AM | |
Makes sense.
This way they don't have to wait as long to shut down the servers! |
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Forum Posts: 524 | Comment #214 by tpb Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 04:05:52 AM | |
This will have the opposite effect surely! The great thing about demos is that you can put it out there, and then people can try it out *BEFORE PAYING* so they can tell if they will like it...
The idea of having to pay $15 to try out a game before you buy it is just rediculous... and will lead to people avoiding trying out the game in the first place... and therefore will reduce the sales of the game! I wouldn't pay for this just on the princible of the matter!
Companies need to look to the likes of Bioware for how to do DLC... And im not saying that they have to release free DLC... but it does have to be worth the amount of money spent! |
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Forum Posts: 132 | Comment #215 by Udak Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 04:47:20 AM | |
If I'm reading the comments correctly, this entire site is economically retarded.
Spoiler alert. It's going to be a standalone game (has to be, otherwise it wouldn't be released BEFORE main game). I'd expect some sort of backstory/prologue to the main game, regardless of what game it is. Since the OP specifically mentioned bf1943, I'm assuming multiplayer will feature. IE, expect something that is built on the same engine, utilizing similar characters and scenarios, but NOT content taken straight from the retail set.
I swear to God, gamers are the most selfish audience out there. Games are becoming big business. Don't fight it |
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Forum Posts: 525 | Comment #216 by matty cheetham Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 04:50:31 AM | |
You know what I dont understand... how can a company selling single products for $59.99 and £39.99 and then go on to sell Millions of that unit over and over again lose money, id say on average a AAA game would cost around 2 million to make (not including advertising).
Where is the money going!!! |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #217 by roman15 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 04:57:21 AM | |
| I'm not sure how to express my feelings right now so here it is...Suck my balls EA ya bunch of money hungry fags! ! ! |
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Forum Posts: 3553 | Comment #218 by jtr1gg3r Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 05:29:24 AM | |
| @2 = epic win |
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Forum Posts: 207 | Comment #219 by barbour99 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:05:13 AM | |
I reckon it'll only be for big games that don't have demos such as Mass Effect 2.
That's gonna sell shit loads anyway so if people want in on it early with a few pre-missions, seems like a good strategy from them and good for the fans.
They've not said they're not gonna release demos either. A free demo and some extra missions DLC before release would let you trial it and then get in early if you want.
Fable II Pub Games would be the obvious comparison... |
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Forum Posts: 541 | Comment #220 by NawtyCawty Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:12:27 AM | |
| I would rather have a free demo of a game I dont like than have to pay for it. Jeez what next. |
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Forum Posts: 30 | Comment #221 by Croweboy87 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:18:13 AM | |
| EA = Money Grabbing Bastards. Seriously they shut the servers for their sports games so if you want to play a one on live....you have to folk out £40 for the new game which is exactly the same as the last 1 (just the server is still active but not working properly so you get lagged to death), now we'll be paying to get add ons for demo |
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Forum Posts: 3757 | Comment #222 by Tyger7 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:20:50 AM | |
If you are ranting, you didn't research what is going on, nor fully understand what was stated. It's a 3-4 hour demo of a game, where the "premium" people who bought it, can voice their opinions and test the game out. Then, the company plans to try and listen to what the community says, and fix/change what they can. It would be released a few months before the game came out. I'm sure a lot of you love certain games enough to spend 15 dollars to play it months ahead of time and give feedback. EA knows this and will not only gain revenue, but also get feedback from a large community. I'm sure they will still have free demos out a few months later if you plan on skipping it. It's not for the people who hate EA, and it's not normal DLC like you think. The title is misleading in this ar |
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Forum Posts: 18 | Comment #223 by Opayk Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:29:14 AM | |
| What I don't get is, how does this help get a reaction any more than a normal demo? And for that matter, when they see what reaction they get from a demo, could they potentially drop the game altogether if it's not in any way successful? If not, what's the point anyway? Why, EA, why? |
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Forum Posts: 151 | Comment #224 by ViVaGordito4evr Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:56:19 AM | |
| In business there's a thing called "goodwill" - which smart, successful corporations try to foster with the community at large. It's an intangible things (can't measure it on the bottom-line), but smart businessmen/CEO's know that it can lead to long-term business growth and therefore to eventual increase in profits. It's amazing to me that the peolpe running EA seem to forget this principle and do everything possible to destroy any goodwill they may have ever had with the gaming community. Now with this crazy idea, along with premature server shutdowns and a history of "eff yous" to their customers, EA really seems to have lost their minds. They really need either a complete cleaning house of management or to go completely out of business. And they have plenty of money so they're not |
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Forum Posts: 113 | Comment #225 by Apexeus Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 06:58:43 AM | |
lol, read it all. Laughing too much at the "if it recieves favourable reviews it will increase sales" and "we can make tweaks before releasing the boxed product". Thats whay HYPE and PLAYTESTING are for.
Just when Activision take over the number 1 spot as most insane publisher, EA step right back up there. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #226 by xJOHNOx Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 07:07:07 AM | |
| ur going to end up paying for all demos i fucking hate ea all they care about is money and the graphics of there games they don't care about gameplay just look at def jam icon e.g |
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Forum Posts: 268 | Comment #227 by Kreegles Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 07:59:08 AM | |
| Sooner or latter EA is going to make us pay for every our we play their games... |
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Forum Posts: 154 | Comment #228 by ANIM4L Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 08:57:14 AM | |
| @222- Ever hear of BETA testing, its free to do in most cases. Releasing something ahead of retail so people can play and review is a damn demo, son! Its basically pay to beta test, F**K 'em EA will take more of your money and close more servers. |
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #229 by The Bovine Moos Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 10:39:31 AM | |
| I have a very hairy @rse, so EA will need a heavy duty razor before they can even hope of kissing it. |
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Forum Posts: 562 | Comment #230 by TheLastAntidote Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 10:51:19 AM | |
| The only way I could find justification in this is if the demo was not a sample of the game, but rather a segment that connects to the game in terms of story. Almost like a prologue. It should have achievements and rewards. By rewards, I mean carry over items or weapons from the demo into the full version, again that is not already in the full version. |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #231 by Owen'd Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 11:59:36 AM | |
@4: I wouldn't discount that, to be honest.
And seriously, EA, WTF? That is all. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #232 by juenger1701 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:27:06 PM | |
| pay for a demo? fuck you |
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Forum Posts: 471 | Comment #233 by Ninja x360a Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:27:37 PM | |
@2 - You must think you're so clever.. haha
And if you don't want to pay for it, then it's simple, don't. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #234 by Funland47 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:29:43 PM | |
You know what boycott all of their games or demos!!!!
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #235 by Funland47 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 02:30:57 PM | |
We should make a petition to rebel about pricing demos!!!
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #236 by lightheaded2687 Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 03:13:12 PM | |
| the problem is that EA has major sway over the industry, so other companies may follow in their steps, as misplaced as those steps are. |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #237 by FriendCode Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 07:15:42 PM | |
| *face. fucking. palm.* |
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Forum Posts: 153 | Comment #238 by Blue Thunder28 Wednesday, March 24, 2010 @ 08:03:06 AM | |
| So 237 people misunderstood the article.... interesting.. |
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