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GDC: NinjaBee Predicts The Demise Of The High Street Retailer
Written Wednesday, March 10, 2010 By Richard Walker

Brent Fox, art director at digital download developer NinjaBee - the fellas responsible for A Kingdom For Keflings and Cloning Clyde - has made a prediction that retailer GameStop will no longer be trading within the next few years or so.

"I think GameStop is not going to be around shortly," said Fox during a presentation at GDC, which also outlined NinjaBee's experience in making downloadable games.

Fox cited EA's closure of Pandemic Studios and subsequent acquisition of Playfish for $300 million as evidence that high street retailers might soon become a thing of the past. Playfish is known for making socially-oriented games more suited to a DLC market.

Fox continued to elaborate on his prediction, stating,"I think the change (to digital) is happening rapidly, where I think GameStop is not going to be around shortly. I started talking about this six months ago. I was saying 'oh, five years.' ... I've revised my particular prediction to three years and I still think that's talking too long. My (business) partner's original prediction was a little over two years and I think he's going to win."

Bold words indeed. We'd like to think that there's still life in high street retail yet. Nothing beats having the actual product in your hands, lined up on a shelf, with a manual and cover art and all that jazz. Or is that just us?

Discuss...

[Via G4TV]

 

User Comments
Comment #1 by ODST Kayne
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:21:05 PM

They''ll manage to stay around somehow. You can't get a digital mic. And besides, that would be a ways off. Theres not that many full retail games available for download anyway. It would take a lot of changes.

Comment #2 by papoose
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:21:27 PM

thats just ridiculous no way can they can go out of business in this decade

Comment #3 by Burnill
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:23:47 PM

i forgot there was no market in retro....

Comment #4 by InsipidActionHero
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:24:08 PM

Hey, cool, the guy who isn't important enough to be distributed through a licensed retailer and makes downloadable games that nobody cares about is saying that all games will be downloable only within 2 years.

Comment #5 by ianke_2002
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:27:11 PM

i hate that people are saying :the demise of retail".....i just dont see why someone would rather own a digital copy of something when they could HOLD the retail copy and cool collectors edition trinkets and stuff like that....

Comment #6 by Callum x360a
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:28:48 PM

I've always prefered the actual product on my shelf than a download. There's just something nice about having a lovely looking collection of games, than a list of titles on a HDD.

Comment #7 by yamayamayaamaa
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:30:35 PM

I think this mostly applies to USED games. Gametop/eb games (and even Electronics Boutique) have been around forever.

I do hate what they have become though now, compared to how awesome they used to be.

Comment #8 by enderflame
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:31:49 PM

I think that Gamestop may go out of business, but full video games will not start the seriously move to digital download for quite a while. I mostly believe this because the USA is one of the biggest game buyers and most of us don't have super fast internet. The FCC needs to work harder on that. So most people's internet would take a day to do an 8 gig game, and I love having a real copy of games it makes me feel more secure in it not becoming unplayable, like what GFWL did with bioshock 2.

Comment #9 by KNIGHTOFSERA
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:36:58 PM

I hate that a lot of people are pushing for digital downloads...I actually like having a copy to hold in my hand


and plus with the price that MS is charging for DL games and hard drives....its not very money wise unless they change their prices

Comment #10 by Edable Giraffe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:37:23 PM

I don't think the Art Director at a small, mediocre studio is in any position to predict such things.

Comment #11 by Taumpy Tearrs
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:37:46 PM

Yeah, I completely disagree as well. Mainly due to the lack of high speed internet in a large number of homes. Additionally, the used game market is a big part of GameStop's business - there is no way to sell a used digital copy. I think their sales may eventually start to dwindle in a couple of years, but I also believe there will always be a market for the service they provide.

Comment #12 by brayarg
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:39:24 PM

I cant see this happening. Who would sell the actual system? (xbox720) or whatever its gonna be called. going to be like dell and sell via net and mailorder? i really cant see sony or m$ having the creditals to pull that off. And still shift 30mil units+

Comment #13 by smacd
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:40:50 PM

i honestly wouldn't be surprised if Gamestop and similar shops went the way that Egghead (now NewEgg) went. They used to have actual shops around, and decided to become online only.

Thats not to say there isn't still small computer parts shops around, but they're relatively rare compared to the past. Nothing will kill it off completely. But at this point, other than used games (which I don't support anyway), what does GameStop really offer me that I can't get at Best Buy or Frys, or anywhere on the internets? a couple of store specific pre-order bonuses? No thanks. I prefer my games NOT gutted, re-shrinked and sold as "new".

Comment #14 by eynotie
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:48:19 PM

Digital distribution is a nice option, but as the only choice, it would be horrible. The DLC issue from Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 convinced me of that pretty quick.

Comment #15 by warnuke
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:50:41 PM

ninjabee doesn't have the authority to predict anything and @4 thank you for saying that.

Comment #16 by Tw YellowHawk
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:56:50 PM

Yea fuck that shit. If they make it download only I'm gonna have to hurt someone. I'm not gonna buy games if it means taking up my hardrive space and putting up my credits card for hackers to steal. Fuck digital download.

Comment #17 by theIncredible
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 05:58:56 PM

I work for Gamestop and after the first year of the Xbox 360 I too predicted that they wouldn't be around long. Not in the capacity they are now anyway. They may revert back to kiosks in malls selling calculators again. Oh and points cards.

Comment #18 by Dude Rain
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:01:12 PM

I'm amazed at how many people are getting behind Gamestop.

@13 A very likely scenario, with the NewEgg comparison. Good call.

Comment #19 by H0p3sfalL
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:03:21 PM

if anything i can see sime stores geting the Ax. Not the entire franchise. Also to add, they will continue to get more and more business with all the exclusive stuff they have going for what seems just about every high end game( even if its cool or gay)

Comment #20 by bblcreator8790
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:04:26 PM

I highly doubt this. First of all, games take up so much room on Hard Drives, and with the biggest hard drive widely available (unless that 250 GB model does come out) is 120 GB. If all the games I have would have to be downloaded, I wouldn't have enough room on even that size. Secondly, Gamestop makes most of its profit off of used games. There is no place that is easier to go to for a used game than Gamestop, and their prices for older used games are reasonable. Lastly, they sell more accessories than most other large retail stores, and accessories are the big money makers as well. Do you really think it takes them $100 to make some cheap plastic guitar? No, they are making a good profit on it. Gamestop is here to stay for awhile.

Comment #21 by Komrade
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:04:27 PM

I haven't been to a gamestop in years. I get everything through gamefly or amazon. I think as people catch on to the cheaper internet alternatives out there gamestop will fade, but there will always be a segment of gamers that, for some reason I don't understand, don't use the internet to get games. My old roommate was like that. Every game he ever bought was new from Best Buy.

Comment #22 by DSM_DARKSIDE
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:11:03 PM

what about having the actual game so u can lend it to a mate trade 4 his games for a few nights etc that just means everybody has to buy there own copy hence even more money for game companys and i have nearly 90 games already does anybody think i could fit all that on a 360 HDD i dont think so

Comment #23 by Copyright
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:15:12 PM

"Cheaper internet alternatives"
What? Amazon still charges $60 for new games, just like Gamestop.

I will NEVER buy a 360 game through digital distribution, unless things change drastically.
*MS still charges ~$150 for 120GB HDD. You can buy 2TB for that much money. MS needs to begin charging reasonable prices for storage.
*The games need to be priced properly. You can buy new hard copies for less than is being charged on the marketplace for every game available. This is absurd.

Comment #24 by Barry619
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:15:35 PM

Within 2 years is ridiculous, I'd put money on that within 2 years MS or Sony don't even have a system set up to download every full retail game. From a business perspective publishers should want to go to download, No physical items = no cost for physical items! But at the moment at least for consoles games aren't cheaper to download. IMO the business thing to do would be for a company like EA to go to MS and get a download system in place, then charge say £40 for the physical version, but only £35 for the download, this, and I honestly think only this, will be the thing that sparks downloads as being more popular, because for the same price nearly everyone is going to prefer the version you actually get something with. And again, from the business perspective, surely they want to get dig

Comment #25 by Atroxx70
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:21:41 PM

I also disagree with this guy, whoever he is. There are far too many restrictions placed on digitally downloaded media to ever make it attractive for consumers. Take Steam for instance, I believe when you buy a game from them, you can only reinstall it 5 times or something like that before you have to rebuy a whole new license for it. I like be able to borrow/lend out games, trade in old games I never plan to play again, and not having to spend several days downloading a game just to play it.

I firmly believe that full release games will never make the jump to digital download as the primary source of distribution.

Comment #26 by Chuppernicus
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:25:52 PM

Ready for digital myself. I still think its about 5 to 6 years away. Take a look at ipods and music, it will happen.

Comment #27 by Ratchet
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:31:58 PM

All Digital games would be stupid. Everyone with 20GB drives would be fucked over, not to mention people still paying $30 for a game they can pick up for $5 at Gamestop.

Comment #28 by Siduakal77
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:32:14 PM

You can't trade digital games in when you're done with them.

Just saying.

Comment #29 by Rogue Gamer 23
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:34:49 PM

sorry, but i have to disagreed with ninjabee predict. retails will stay longer then 10 years, because parents are very cautious about what there kids buy through online, and parent like more to see the person that is giving the content to there kids face to face, not the way ninjabee predicts the outcome of retailers.

Comment #30 by neoxbomb
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:35:09 PM

mmm i think this is just wishful thinking on his part.

Comment #31 by a hippyslayer
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:39:00 PM

Going digital will be ridiculous for all of us who dont want a copy of NFS Most Wanted clogging our shelves. EA and other publishing companies will push this because they lose money off second hand games but Ive got news for them; many games I just wont buy cause they're not worth 60 bucks, but I will buy when theyre 19.99 used at GameStop

Comment #32 by Mighty Goliath89
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:44:57 PM

I agree with alot of people in saying that its better to hold the actual copy of the game and have it on your shelf along with your collection of other games yeah may be cheaper in the long run for downloads but I prefer having it solid in my hand than in cyber space.

Comment #33 by Elit3 m0nkey
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:45:45 PM

I still I like buying games from a retailer. I prefer discs because the I don't have to worry about hard drive space much. However i don't buy used games anymore, since the developer/publisher don't get any money for it.

Comment #34 by Ray5555
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:49:34 PM

I see this happening, but not in the time span Fox said. I do see this in about 25 years time. I give it a broad estimate of 10-25 years time frame. For those that don't see this coming are blind. But on that note there will always be a market for people who want the physical copy of a game. So no Gamestop will never go out of business. Worst case scenario they will go retro and start selling snes,gen, saturn, psx ect... games again. Or they can do what they already do, sell Tokens good for redeemable DLC. There are going to be people that won't have their system connected to the internet, or be able to download such huge games. Due to main circumstances time, speed, money ect...

Fox's comment was moronic at best, and he is just trying to get publicity for his company, that really never

Comment #35 by GILLHUHN
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:56:04 PM

He better not be right all digital content would blow i want to actually be able to hold the game i dropped $60 on yeah arcade games and stuff are fine but there not good enough sorry but no thank you

Comment #36 by Madmax410
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:59:38 PM

PFFT! Game will never go digital on the 360 if MS keeps being cheap money whores and tripling the HD prices. What is it, $100 for a 120 GB? That's insane.

Comment #37 by ShadyZer0
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 06:59:42 PM

Well, I still want to be able to have a physical copy of my game BUT I am really hating this pre-order bonus crap that is going on with gamestop.

DOWN WITH GAMESTOP!

Comment #38 by christiansteele
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:06:06 PM

In my eyes, in order for everything to go digital they would need to start releasing TB HDD

Comment #39 by frankumms
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:11:18 PM

You know, games on demand is going to be the future, rather than old games most people already have it will be brand new games being realsed the day it comes out.
Most likely avaible at first as both retail and digital, but eventually digital will win, i actually prefer paying with cold hard cash rather than a credit card

Comment #40 by Buzz Killer81
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:11:26 PM

I don't know why people have said the digital age is coming, haha isn't it already here? Last time I checked movies, music, and games are available for download on the Zune Marketplace, iTunes, or wherever people choose to buy it. I think it's more like 10 years off, nevermind 3 or 5. In the 8 years that iPods have been around it's yet to replace cds. Sure there are games that have been released in stores that are now becoming available for download, as well as arcade games, but you can't go online the day a retail game is released in stores and find it there. Gaming has to get to that point before any real estimation can be made as to when digital downloads will take outlast hard copies. Everyone said Gamefly would replace Gamestop and it hasn't. I guess only time will tell, until then it

Comment #41 by Obsulete
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:20:31 PM

They said the same thing 5 years ago when Steam came out, Gamestop/EB are still around.

The biggest problem with digital download is they almost always demand the same amount of money that you'd pay for a hard copy of a game, in some cases they charge more. They rarely discount the products and a lack of a back up is a huge downside, if your account is a compromised you've lost a $60 dollar per game collection that will require hours and hours of tech support calls to India. Also the fact that you CANNOT sell the games back, give away to friends or ask for refunds due to crappines of the game.

Now for cheap little 5-10 dollar games, digital download isn't the future, its the now but unless they address those problems above or the evil gaming overlords force the populace to accept d

Comment #42 by solarhd
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:21:56 PM

Well then what happens to gamefly and the pantheon of easy 1000 games

Comment #43 by FuriousAli007
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:24:06 PM

Nah retails will be around for trade ins and pre owns.

Comment #44 by Obsulete
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:25:03 PM

ugh, is there a limit to how much you can type? lost part of my last post. should have ended like...

.....force the populace to accept digital downloads, then I don't see it being the future for a long while.

Comment #45 by NerfTurbo
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:31:22 PM

Microsoft had better not put out another arcade or 20 gb console, if that's the case. WTF Ninja Bee? You make Keflings and Clyde, what do you know?

Comment #46 by john9745
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:33:14 PM

i will kill myself if gamestop closes

Comment #47 by CHPwannabe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 07:57:55 PM

i once thought circuit city would never close, but look at what happend. With larger harddrives and more games being available to download or rent from gamefly its really only a matter of time until it goes under.

Comment #48 by KillerBEA
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:04:21 PM

gamestop is not going out of business anytime soon they make millions off used games as long as their are more people who prefer hard copys over digital then they are fine

Comment #49 by Buzz Killer81
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:04:37 PM

I don't know why people complain so much about Gamestop. I mean seriously, why? What is the big problem with Gamestop? How did a video game store wrong so many people? It's not like they force you to buy at their store in the first place. If you don't like it then don't shop there it's that simple. Just like if you hate Microsoft, then don't buy an Xbox, or buy anything off it's marketplace. You just contradict yourself in the process and show you have no integrity to back up your words. If you do complain and don't shop at Gamestop or buy anything Microsoft, then I give you a lot of respect for standing up against something you believe in. The majority of people these days only bark and have no bite.

Comment #50 by The Bum-Mobile
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:07:51 PM

#5, I feel the same way. I still buy CDs over digital music, and I sincerely hope that retail game remain jsut the way they are. Although, a price reduction couldn't hurt. :D

Comment #51 by FlipsiderNick
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:08:01 PM

to everyone complaing about hard drive space think realistically by the time they are even ready to do a conversion to digital copies the xbox360 will be gone. They could do it now or they could develop this amazing new system and it would be the best thing out there and the games would never skip or wear out because they would be downloaded right to youre system and everyone would buy it because when it comes to game systems people eat them up especially the fan boys. They arent going to convince you to buy it they are going to make you feel like a loser for not buying it.

Comment #52 by Auburok
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:13:16 PM

@10
Agreed. Just because you live in a world doesn't mean it's the only one that'll be there in a few years. Digital distribution for consoles has to catch up to PC, and PC's still in the dirt when it comes to reliability.

@49
The problem isn't not shopping at GameStop for those that complain about it, it's stopping others from shopping at GameStop. When a game's high rate of sales are from "used" copies of a game, ie opened games, they don't count toward sales. Shipped still, yes, but people scoff at those numbers regularly. Really, it doesn't mean shit, but there's a method to the madness.

Comment #53 by Voxael
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:18:53 PM

I very much doubt game retailers will be gone in 2-3 years - as other people have said, the majority of the buyers still prefer to have actual physical copies of what they've blown their money on. If I *could* get physical copies of the arcade games from X-Box Live, I would simply because I still don't trust digital distribution completely.

Comment #54 by Voxael
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:20:55 PM

Also, as long as there are physical copies of games, there will be a market for secondhand / trading games. That is where games retailers make their money.

It would be an interested experiment to have two games shops set up in proximity to each other - one exclusively stocking brand new games and hardware and the other with only second hand stock. I'm almost positive that the second hand store would come out on top in terms of pure profit even if the new store was receiving higher sales.

Comment #55 by Killabee Skillz
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:25:33 PM

I'd rather own a hard copy of a game. Especially when it's priced the same!
Besides, you can take the hard copy to a friends house to play on his/her system rather than take your system...

Comment #56 by Insanemaniak
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:30:26 PM

Unless M$ added a burner to the 'digital revolutionary' console (which I believe will sign a security check on the disk so no one else can use it on any other console but the one it was burnt off) I wouldn't and couldn't buy it.

This isn't just about Gamestop but EVERY retail out there. Gamestop being the prime example. They want more money and they see these retailers being the problem holding them from their goal.

Besides, my ISP is worse than M$, I'm paying for 2.3 MB/S (not much I know) and rarely hitting 70 KB/S!!! So it'd take me weeks to download anything.

Comment #57 by InsipidActionHero
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:37:32 PM

Downloadable*

@ #52: The part about taking it to a friend's house is true, but that may be one of the reasons some people want to do this. Why have somebody able to take it over to a friend's house when you can just force the friend to rent or buy the game instead to make more of a profit.

Stupid.

Comment #58 by sonicdevron
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:40:46 PM

Gamestop, yes, I agree. They don't pull in enough revenue on their new games. The only ones that sell are pretty much ones with pre-order prizes and incentives.

Once they run out of used stuff, I can't see it going uphill. But I think it'll take at least five years, thats just me.

Comment #59 by SpyPie
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 08:50:31 PM

I agree that gamestop will eventually disappear but not that fast.
I think games will switch all to digital download but discs will stay around still for awhile.

Look at music for example: Everyone seems to get it digitally now after itunes and other music downloaders, but you can still go buy the CD its just not as common and as cheap as the download.

Comment #60 by 100Proof
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:06:46 PM

Yeah, Gamestop's not going anywhere. Even if every company on earth went digital tomorrow (which isn't happening any time soon... sorry, Random D-bag from Developer No One Cares About Whose Livelyhood Depends on Digital Distribution Being Successful), Gamestop has made so much money over the last 10-15 years that they would stay afloat simply by selling older titles, accessories, and other useless crap for a while until they found a new paradigm to operate under.

Mind you, I'm not a fan or a consumer of Gamestop. But people have been announcing the death of retail and the digital revolution for nearly a decade. It's monumental ignorance of the market and the situation required for that change to occur.

Comment #61 by ViperxSniper
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:15:11 PM

Games will never go to digital download. It would be the stupidest thing for consumers. Just think, now you pay $60 for a game, you don't like it or beat it in a few days later, you can trade it in a few weeks later and get over half of what you paid for it. Now, let's say you bought a game as a digital download and didn't like it or beat it and don't think you will play it again. Guess what, your stuck with it and can't get anything for trade. Sure, most game companies would love this because they could pretty much gurantee they are going to get most of the money from the sell and that they can release a ton of crappy games knowing they could sucker quite a few people into paying $60 bucks for it on launch.

Comment #62 by ViperxSniper
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:31:41 PM

And also, look at the games on demand. Over 85% of those games you can get for $10 less NEW with case, cover art, disc, and book. It should be the other way around.

Now think about this, besides the DotW, how many times has DLC been marked down permanetly? I can only think of a few arcade titles. We should NOT still be paying over 2000 points for the Shivering Isle content. What happened to the idea with Halo 2 content. Charge a premium for the first 6 months then free? Not saying they all should be free, but reduced.

Screw Ninjabees and Sony for thinking the consumer wants all digital downloads.

Comment #63 by Insanemaniak
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:37:44 PM

#61 And for the fact if they don't want to drop the price from $60 they don't have to.

If it goes digital it's basically like waiting a few months for a game you want to go into the pre-owned section and getting it for half to three quarters of the price but instead finding it still at $60.

Imagine Viva Pinata, you can buy it for what, 5 - 6$ if that pre-owned (and in some cases new). It's $30 on Games on Demand? (I'm from UK so I'm sorry if I'm wrong). If it went digital it'd probably cost double if M$ had their way.

Comment #64 by Insanemaniak
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:38:20 PM

I can understand gaming companies wanting digital to happen so they make more money and obviously M$ no matter what will want to increase their profit but digital will not really work unless the economy has resolved itself by then, we all got 1 Gig connection speeds and (in my case) create a physical back up (If I delete the game from HDD I can still play what I payed for without having to make room by deleting a different game when I fancy playing something else).

Comment #65 by MakoBallistic
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 09:49:00 PM

This is complete BS, the sheer level of potential in the trade in market means that retail will never go out of business. Its funny how these statements always come from a LIVE Arcade developer and never someone who actually works in the retail market.

And the simple fact is unless you have an amazing connection and a 500GB HDD, who the fuck would want to download all their games anyway, its bad enough having to wait for release dates without having to sit there watching a god dam % bar go up when its finally released.

I bought Final Fantasy XIII the other day and got it for nothing, had £10 reward points on my GAME card and traded in Skate 2 and Assassins Creed 2, show me one website that would have allowed me to build up reward points AND trade in. Oh thats right, there arent any!

Comment #66 by ApochWeiss
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:12:24 PM

If everything goes digital my purchases will slow to an extreme crawl, if not stop all together. I can't STAND digital downloads of any sort. It feels like I never bought it. I bought 1 CD through iTunes. ONE! Wanna know what happened? Fiancee deleted everything on my hard drive out of spite, now I have to repurchase the EP since iTunes had an error and doesn't remember me buying it. The Live Arcade is one thing but to buy full retail games on-line? No. Look at the PSPGo and it's rather poor sales.

Comment #67 by Jabberwocky CPA
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:29:34 PM

Gamestop as we know it will probably go away at some point in the future. I believe it will not be until the end of the next generation of consoles. That is if the infrastructure is truly in place to support digital download games to the widest audience. Cost, HD space, Internet speed to name but three. Who knows, maybe you will be able to go to gamestop and buy a game and download it to a flash drive type thing and bring it home to play.

Comment #68 by joshnorm
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:51:30 PM

Well it has really worked for the PSP Go...

Wait god damnit.

Seriously digital will not come into the forefront until a lot of changes happen. He was assuming that everyone has high speed internet. Which is not the case. Also you can't beat the fact that you can go out and buy the game after a few months and buy it for a discounted rate. With digital that wont happen or rarely happens.

So he can go screw with that prediction

Comment #69 by Mr Theropod
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:11:21 PM

No way. People are materialistic and like to have a solid copy.

Comment #70 by litepink
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:26:40 PM

Agreed with #4, and the majority of the rest of the comments.

Most people seem angry at the idea of digital download, which is pretty good "market research" in my opinion.

Comment #71 by Acid Mother
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:46:22 PM

#69 has the identical argument of why people said they'd still buy vinyl once cassettes came out.

This is the progression of distribution, and, sad to say, it will be like this in the future. With digital downloaded copies there's no need for CD-checks and anti-pirating incentives, because you simply can't pirate a copy and sign in to Xbox Live without throwing up a flag for MS to rain death down on your 360 in the form of a system-wide ban.

Higher and higher production costs for digital-download games (Shadow Complex, Scrap Metal, Toy Soldiers, etc.) basically secure the facts that A) more people will be on the lookout for DLC in the future, and B) companies will have a larger incentive to develop DLC.

Comment #72 by Acid Mother
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:51:39 PM

#65 "its bad enough having to wait for release dates without having to sit there watching a god dam % bar go up when its finally released."

It's bad enough calling every EB, Best Buy and Wal-Mart in my city to find a copy of Rock Band (obviously a while back, still...), then having to mission 40 minutes out there and back. Even if I downloaded it 100 times it would'nt have cost me what I spent in gas that day.

I say good for DLC. This means better support for my games in the long run, and that's not a bad thing.

Comment #73 by aka sogy
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:51:34 AM

It sucks for people like me in South Africa.
We can get from retailers on release date and preorder and ya, the games do work out more expensive here retail.

Where the sh!t comes in is that Bandwidth is expensive, fastest line is 4mb/s and even then you pay about R70 ($10) per gig, meaning a good 6 Gig game will cost us allot extra.

So in our eyes, if the stop retail games entirely, South Africa will really see that as a Cock move!

Comment #74 by callmeclean
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 01:11:57 AM

@4- Tons of people love Ninjabee's XBLA games and they are defiantly some of the best downloadable games ever. And they do not publish by retail because it does not suit there kinds of games, not because they are 'not important enough', they kick the ass out of a lot of retail game companies and so do there games. But I really don't want shops to go out of business..I much rather buying a case and cover.

Comment #75 by Xenodolf
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 01:25:24 AM

What a crock of shit. Ninjabee is just trying to get attention to its name and games by putting this utter wad of crap out on the internet. Just like those shitty gamereview sites that call Zelda or Final Fantasy garbage just to rack up views from angry gamers and sell more avertising space.

Comment #76 by Xenodolf
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 01:27:41 AM

Physical games aren't going anywhere for the next 15 to 20 years at least. Probably not until the middle of the century.

Comment #77 by Animeguy2510
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 01:47:14 AM

I work for gamestop as a manager and we have a lot of customers that prefer real product. For the customers who get mad and say they will never come back or the prices aren't low enough always come back cause of the knowledge we can give face to face and because of the used games and some of are deals are better than other retailers, this guy is just full of shit

Comment #78 by callmeclean
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 02:46:46 AM

@75, well that might be so but final fantasy is a pile of shit....im just saying.

Comment #79 by Tyger7
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 03:15:40 AM


Those are quite bold claims! Not enough people have fast enough internet to make it worth downloading so until internet becomes fast, everywhere, then his claims are null. Plus the hard drives are only up to 250GB right now for xbox, and I have 60gb used for saved games, demos, and whatnot. I don't even have music or movies. Speaking of which, if they go all-download, they are asking for people to pirate their games. Someone fire that guy!

Comment #80 by Tyger7
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 03:16:55 AM

Oh and since I can't edit my comment I would like to point out that he doesn't represent Ninja Bee as a whole, he is just the art director. Might want to change that title!

Comment #81 by Baihu1983
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 03:26:40 AM

A lot of people wont want to go Digital download only ... EVER

Comment #82 by fivebyfive200
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 03:59:00 AM

Of course a small, mediocre studios wants d/l only games as when the customer founds out the game is crap, he can't do anything about it (apart from delete it).

Also the day when you have to pay full price for a game on consoles that you can't sell or lend is the day I give up gaming. There is no way in hell, they will drop there prices once the entire industry goes to download only games because they can charge whatever they want. It also amazes me gamers that rabidly defend it, seen on eurogamer comments thread a lot!

Luckly its not going to happen soon as ISP enforce a cap (in UK anyway) and its not like I can d/l over 10 gig a week

Comment #83 by Sasco1st
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 05:08:00 AM

The day games are only available as a digital version/download is the day i stop buying games! I like to have the physical disc, its also the reason I won't be buying any Ubisoft game (esp. PC) from now on either :) (Due to the fact that if their servers are down, or my phone line is down I can't play a single player game...screw that)

Comment #84 by Opayk
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 07:14:03 AM

Can they actually do this though? If they stopped physical production of games and then put all games and new releases directly onto the marketplace (which is essentially what they'll end up doing), that means they're all one price. Thus, they have the market dominated and is better than buying up competition or whatever. Is this against some law?

Comment #85 by Andreas_loel
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 07:18:44 AM

Closing down pandemic was the best move ever, only way to stop their stream of shitgames comming out their ass.

Fuck you pandemic and your glitched fucking bullshit games

Comment #86 by Akatsuki Sw1tch
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 08:54:02 AM

As soon as they change gaming to download only (No disc/Box/Instructions) That's when i hang up my joypad.

There's to much B.S with downloads (Being registered to your machine/Gamertag ect) So when your console has a seizure & decides it's time has come. Access to your DLC becomes a total chore, No thanks i'd rather just put the disc in & play.

Comment #87 by Iceman9482
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:47:23 PM

I call bull, People love the feel of a new game in their hands, plus downloads you have to have a certain space on your hard drive, if you have hard copies, then the only space you have to fill is your room.

Comment #88 by Iceman9482
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:48:28 PM

@#84 No that is capitalism... unfortunately

Comment #89 by RobertoS89
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 05:30:03 PM

Bollocks.

Comment #90 by RobertoS89
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 05:30:21 PM

He's talking out of his anus.

Comment #91 by alex4283
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 07:11:56 PM

Well, all of the financials seem to still be on the up-and-up. The company is still generating increasing positive percentages of operating cash flow, margins are up, and their EBITDA is respectable.

here's a quick overview not including their super stron 4th qtr.

http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/091119/GameStop-Corp_8-K/a6104727ex991.htm

Unless the entire gaming market tanks, the numbers they are still cranking out, in this economy, is very impressive imo.


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