L4D 1 DLC Pricing Down to MS, Not Valve Written Wednesday, September 09, 2009 by Dan Webb This month Left 4 Dead 1's Crash Course will hit the Xbox Live Marketplace for 560 Microsoft points, whereas PC owners of the game will be able to download it for free. Speaking to Eurogamer, Valve's Chet Faliszek speaks out regarding the L4D 1 DLC pricing issues that have raised concern amongst the 360 community. Faliszek says, "we own our platform, Steam. Microsoft owns their platform. They wanted to make sure there's an economy of value there." "Well, they helped us get the first one out for free. We had the one DLC out for free. And I think... they have to look and say, wow, we're kind of being unfair to everybody else if these guys can do that," he continued. So the reason you're going to be paying for Crash Course this month is entirely down to Microsoft. And why? According to Faliszek, it's so that other publishers that charge on the service don't get a bad wrap because of it. Hardly an ideal system, where Microsoft "punishes" publishers/developers that want to offer free content - in fact, it's the consumer that is punished - but you can see the logic. Will this have a detrimental effect on upcoming Left 4 Dead 2 360 sales? Well let's be honest, purchasing it on the PC will net you free content as opposed to purchasing it on the 360 where you will have to pay, so it only makes sense. | |
Login
Site Navigation
X360A
Achievements
Content
Community
Syndicate
x360a Main Feed
x360a News Feed
L4D 1 DLC Pricing Down to MS, Not Valve
User Comments
 | Comment #1 by AlecArticuno Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:17:09 PM micro$oft |
 | Comment #2 by captainhowdy95 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:18:29 PM ugh |
 | Comment #3 by aosiding Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:19:22 PM Plz no achieves, they keep ruining my 100% hahahaha |
 | Comment #4 by Godlymansean Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:19:41 PM cool? |
 | Comment #5 by FriXionX Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:20:20 PM Microsoft money hungry bastards. I knew it was them. They have about $200 billion and they want more from us? This is the reason im getting a ps3 this saturday. So much free stuff on that, Sony actually cares about people, whereas Microsoftonly care about money. |
 | Comment #6 by sIR 5HaNx A10t Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:20:31 PM no sale |
 | Comment #7 by Fighting Bob Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:20:56 PM That's Capitalism for ya...could be worse. |
 | Comment #8 by Fat Gaz 666 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:22:09 PM i certainly hope they dont force them to charge for the tf2 update if and when it comes out or im gonna be pissed |
 | Comment #9 by menity men Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:23:29 PM i agree with darth vapid micro$oft always makin us pay for shit that we need and then they give us 1 free thing once in a blue moon about something we dont need like the free survival pak for left 4 dead 1 its bullshit I really hope that they dont bullshit us for left 4 dead 2 |
 | Comment #10 by friedreindeer Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:23:40 PM god damn it microsoft why must you be so greedy? In my opinion the logic diesnt even make sense. It should be up to the developers what they're producing and how its priced. What about halos heroic mappack. How is that justified then? |
 | Comment #11 by BigChiefJake Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:24:25 PM i'll still buy it ..... and microsoft knows that. The greedy bloodsuckers. :( |
 | Comment #12 by dakisbac Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:25:03 PM FYI, this is nothing new. M$ has ALWAYS been behind the pricing. MANY devs want to release DLC for free but M$ doesn't let them. Or the devs may want to only charge X but then M$ jacks up the price. Which is why I always get annoyed watching people bitch out devs for pricing. |
 | Comment #13 by bblcreator8790 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:25:44 PM I'm only getting this if there are achievements; I've already got 1000/1000 on this game and the only thing that would make me play would be to get a 100% on the game. |
| Comment #14 by friedreindeer Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:27:11 PM im still buying it too. But thats why im angry |
 | Comment #15 by RenegadeSniper7 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:30:34 PM Fuck them |
 | Comment #16 by Ben172 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:32:17 PM Even if they charge, which I see is profitable, why do it for such an odd price? 7$? 5 would be much better, though free would be best. I'm probobly not getting this, unless it's REALLY good. |
 | Comment #17 by rockelscorcho Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:32:40 PM Microsoft sucks for doing this. Their mentality is "Everyone else beats you, so we won't let Valve not hit you." It's just keeping the status quo. Microsoft has been doing very well lately due to the expense of the Playstation, but with the price change and the upcoming games, Microsoft better start kissing our asses. All else, vote with your money, and don't buy the DLC. |
 | Comment #18 by ultratog1028 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:33:22 PM i already knew microsoft chose the price. it does seem stupid though. its also the reason l4d is still $60 new on 360 but $30 new pc. i swear if i ever get a computer that can play steam games (no dvd reader and low graphics card currently. the main reason i quit pc gaming), i might just give up on the 360. |
 | Comment #19 by maliguen Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:37:29 PM But if Valve wants to make their DLC free, why they don't do like Behemoth and charge a very low price, instead of 560 MP. In fact, for the King Pack and the Necromancer Pack, Behemoth wanted them to be free too. Microsoft says no, so Behemoth decides to only charge 160 MP each. |
 | Comment #20 by floridafan765 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:38:13 PM Only getting if there are chievos to keep it at 100% completion. On a side not: DLC is getting outta hand. i just noticed there is already The Beatles DLC, WTF is up with that..seriously |
 | Comment #21 by madasahat Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:39:08 PM @5 you will be upset cos I just got 1 and the 360 is much better, dashboard the lot, apart from not paying to play online thats the only plus ps3 has. |
 | Comment #22 by Chrispy Ware Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:40:56 PM Valve was gonna offer us this for free and then Microsoft says no? If a company wants to give something out for free, let them. If it makes other companies look bad, fuck em. Or am I missing the point of economics here? I didn't know Microsoft was looking out for other companies reputations. I would've expected less from a company that's given me 3 replacement xboxs that all got the RROD. Keep up the great customer service, Microsoft! |
 | Comment #23 by Bluntedfish Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:43:34 PM dumb Microsoft, guess ill got buy a ps3. |
 | Comment #24 by V4R14N7 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:53:12 PM maybe people shouldn't be blamming microsoft and blame the devolpers for giving us half assed games to begin with where there NEEDS to be DLC to make it longer/better/ect. I see the Castle Crashers example, well they had pictures of the weapons and charcters long before the game was released, so it was always there. Most DLC that is not maps or episodes os just 300k here and there yet we are forced to pay $10. Don't tell me that wasen't an unlock code. |
 | Comment #25 by FYC Punker Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:53:43 PM Oh give me a break no ones running off to buy a PS3 stop fucking being stupid. As for the price of the DLC its whatever,if theres no achievements then im not buying something that can be completed in an hour if that. I can wait untill L4D2. |
| Comment #26 by FYC Punker Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:54:19 PM Oh give me a break no ones running off to buy a PS3 stop fucing being stupid. As for the price of the DLC its whatever,if theres no achievements then im not buying something that can be completed in an hour if that. I can wait untill L4D2. |
| Comment #27 by FYC Punker Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:54:43 PM Wow thats stupid dunno why that posted twice. |
 | Comment #28 by asilentboom Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 09:56:50 PM @5 LMAO, you think Sony isn't just as greedy as Microsoft? |
 | Comment #29 by ANIM4L Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:03:07 PM Dlc prices lately are a bunch of $h*t, How can they justify these prices, +400MS for a few hours worth of game play on any DLC... if your lucky. Force unleashed charges 400MS for a few costumes, no gameplay at all, they should have been 80MS. 560MS for this DLC now, what coulden't make it 400MS, I've seen whats in this DLC and its not even worth that much. Valve should have stuck to their guns and made it free, screw MS, they only see us as a potential sale. Valve should have thought about L4D 2, if their charging this much for DLC for the first one, you can bet on seeing more of this for the second one. Why would Valve even bother with this DLC with L4D 2, right around the corner, especially when the price of this one seems like its making up for the free one they gave us. |
 | Comment #30 by BG AzN Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:22:41 PM Microsoft will deliberately put achievements in this dlc so that completionists and others will "have to" get it. Just a grade A scam by Microsoft till the release of L4D2. They know that we've been wanting something more to L4D, so they decide "why not now, we'll still get them to buy L4D2 no matter what, plus those starving fans will buy any dlc with achievements anyway." |
 | Comment #31 by DENAz666 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:33:43 PM yeah maybe, depends what it is i guess. |
 | Comment #32 by Dragonmaster700 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:34:49 PM I still dont see what the big deal is in paying for new DLC. By new I mean stuff that actually adds to the game, not like the ones that just unlock something already in the game. Valve may be blaming M$, but they are still getting part of the profit from the DLC, and since they had to spend time developing it, why shouldnt they get paid for it? True, they usually give away all the add ons on PC, but I dont see why they should HAVE to just because they always have. If I ran a game company I would charge for some content too, but only if it adds to the game in a signifigant way. The first DLC was right to be free, cuz it really didnt add much. This one adds alot more so I dont have a problem paying for it. Dont like the price, dont buy it. Its a simple as that. |
 | Comment #33 by Devil Sora Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:36:00 PM Now I can understand why they sorta "need to charge" . . . like it was said a few months back (I forget what the DLC on the table was) Microsoft owns the space that they put on the marketplace. . . so if you pump up the marketplace full of "Free things" How can the market sell? I'm still getting this regardless. . . . and like it was said before. . . .Microsoft knows that. To all the people who are whining "OMG because of this article I'm getting a PS3!!!" wake the fuck up. . . .you've already given Microsoft your money. . . buying the system, paying for your Gold. Now you want to turn around and give Sony that same kind of attention? Morons. . . plain and simple, your not "screwing Microsoft" they screwed you. . .and thats why I think that this truley hurts for some people, I say if y |
 | Comment #34 by m4milo Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:37:41 PM I'm still buying it. Loved the game and having another campaign is a long time coming. |
| Comment #35 by Devil Sora Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:38:23 PM damnit. . . comment got cut *clears throat* I say if you have the spare Microsoft points buy the content. In doing that you show VALVE your support and not Microsoft (though this is irrelevant causes chances are you'll want to play with friends ect ect.) also I agree with what #32 says |
 | Comment #36 by Xenodolf Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:42:17 PM wow. just wow. it's $7 people, $7 for a new set of levels with new dialogue and maybe even new weapons. Left 4 Dead was one of the best games last year, and now you're gonna get some more achievements for it. Even if you are the lowest paid person in America (min wage is $7.25) you can work an hour and afford this. to the three people "quitting" the 360, go ahead. enjoy the mere 5 decent exclusives the ps3 has to offer plus a watered down achievement system that doesn't even cover all of their games. less people for me to compete with for gamerscore (not that any of you could ever offer me a real challenge). yeah, i'd like to pay less money for DLC but it doesn't always happen. also, expecting good DLC from a Star Wars game when George Lucas is one of the most greedy guys I know is a |
| Comment #37 by Xenodolf Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:43:01 PM total HURR DURR on your part. |
| Comment #38 by Devil Sora Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:44:17 PM Oh and another question I might add. . . .can anyone really think of any achievements that you can possibly add into one campeign? All I can see is a possible Mass Effect-esqe thing happening "50G - Emergency landing" If they put more "OVERALL" achievements (ones that relate to any campeign and not just the bloody "Crash Course" DLC) for a clear cut maybe 200 that would be great. . . but chances are. . . we'll only get the 50 lol |
| Comment #39 by Xenodolf Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:45:52 PM ^ Samurai Warriors XL (which is DLC-only) helps you unlock achievements in Samurai Warriors. |
| Comment #40 by Devil Sora Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:49:28 PM Xenodolf: You reffering to me? Cause ya I can see that (I've been meaning to pick up XL just my HDD is killing right now.) but something along that line. |
 | Comment #41 by Pimp Dele7ed Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:50:05 PM Lol. I only bought L4D for my brother, and barely play it. Good luck getting that out of me. XD |
 | Comment #42 by Magicman10893 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:00:56 PM @10 They justify it because it was 800 points to begin with for awhile and everyone bought it. THEN they lower the price/make it free once 80-90% of the people who would download it have downloaded already. |
 | Comment #43 by Emfulz Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:07:33 PM FUCK M$! What's next, raise price for XBL?! or charge extra just to use voice! if it wasn't for the games and community then I'd be switching to a ps3 >_ |
| Comment #44 by Devil Sora Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:09:31 PM @#43: Funny you mention that. . . .where I come from they never put tax on the MS sub cards. . . tax gets raised statewide and guess who they started targeting?. . . .LOL |
 | Comment #45 by toonsage Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:13:23 PM aww...=/ |
 | Comment #46 by TIMex666 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:17:28 PM @#5 Sony create revenue through downloads by charging the publisher, not the consumer. It costs publishers 16c every 1Gb of bandwidth is used (downloaded by PSN user). This means that the 360 gets more demos and DLC than the PS3 (it just costs more to download for consumer). This and the fact that XBL is far superior to PSN in socializing capabilities, connections and of course content should indicate to you that you are making the wrong choice replacing your Xbox with a PS3. |
 | Comment #47 by Ace Of Dawn Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:18:16 PM I am constantly taken aback by everyone's realization that Microsoft is a business based out of America. Yeah, sure, it would be nice if all DLC is free, but in the end... everything is still cheap. |
 | Comment #48 by FourChan Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:37:21 PM 560 for no Achievements. |
 | Comment #49 by Decent Fellow Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:45:32 PM I usually take the role of defending Microsoft in similar situations to this, but in this case, I see no defense. There is no financial reason for Microsoft to charge for this DLC pack. @Ace Of Dawn: I understand your position, and most of the time, I am in your exact position, but in this case, it seems that Microsoft is recieving the content from Valve for free. If that is truly the case, then Microsoft should make it available for free as well. |
 | Comment #50 by StolenPaper18 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:47:11 PM BOO!! How lame. |
 | Comment #51 by BadBoyKillah89 Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:47:32 PM Isn't all DLC pricing down to Microsoft? This doesn't surprise me at all. They've never really been known for being consumer-friendly. |
 | Comment #52 by kevinsomnia Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:53:57 PM I personally wish it cost more than 560 MSP, but oh well. 800 maybe? I mean it's bad enough that they don't charge us for game demos and trials... |
 | Comment #53 by montrossity Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:55:20 PM it sucks, but it's a part of the game. |
 | Comment #54 by XI MANX IX Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:57:34 PM PILLS HERE1!!! GRABBIN PEELZ |
 | Comment #55 by Chaosflare Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:58:42 PM Oh well; I sold my copy of Left 4 Dead a few days ago, so it doesn't effect me at all. |
 | Comment #56 by Unholy Memnoch Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:59:36 PM @24 you are a fucking idiot. Valve is anything BUT half assed. you are talking about developers who spent 3-6, and in one case, 11 years developing their games. Left 4 Dead 2 is the only game that they have released in less than 4 years after the first game came out, partially why it is such a big deal, since Left 4 Dead 1 just came out last year. Next time you call a dev half assed, you should research them first you fucking moron |
| Comment #57 by Deathbeard 666 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:01:32 AM god will people please stop bitching fucking grow up about it. its not that big of a deal, it isnt that much money. get a fucking job. stop bitching about the price of dlc, its not like it takes 5 seconds to make, stop bitching about dlc achievements ruining your completion percentages, and stop bitching about l4d2. |
| Comment #58 by Xenodolf Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:01:55 AM Yeah, Sora.. I was answering your question. Although Samurai Warriors 2 XL may not be worth the $$. You only get 250 more achievement points for a whopping $30-40 DLC charge (i can't remember the exact amount), plus it takes up TWO GIGS of memory. But I was bored and since I rent most of my 360 games I felt like I owed Koei a few bucks. Plus it helped me unlock 4 characters that had annoying guidelines in the original Samurai Warriors 2. |
| Comment #59 by mini0mk Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:05:17 AM microsoft need to relised that they are cunts |
 | Comment #60 by crunchb3rry Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:12:51 AM That's fucked up. Both PC and 360 owners have an ISP bill. 360 owners have to pay $50 a year AND buy all the shit the PC users get for free. Microsoft are some serious cocksuckers. We're already bankrolling their online operation and don't even get at least a discount over Silver members for it. "Thank you sir, may I please have another!" |
| Comment #61 by Mag0T Shadow 92 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:34:16 AM I Do own a xbox 360 BUT This is the reason why i H8 Microsoft they just cannot give it out 4 free n geass we fucking surport em n pay 4 live what next Pay for face book, microcokz can go get fucked greedy cunts :( |
| Comment #62 by Mag0T Shadow 92 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:36:35 AM The only thing that keeps me playing my xbox is Halo 3 and Gears of war n stuff like Dat if it eva want 2 other consoles i would abandon xbox 4 good, But ODST i cannot wait 4 :) |
 | Comment #63 by Finisher808 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:46:15 AM if you dont want to loose your 100% then dont update the game it makes it so that the xbox doesnt even know it has an update thats what i did with my resident evil 5 |
| Comment #64 by asilentboom Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:51:07 AM LMAO why do so many people think its a privilege to game and everything should be free. If Valve really wanted this free then they could have made it happen with a sponsor, there is no reason they should have not forseen this problem. LoL at the people getting a PS3, Sonys just as greedy. |
| Comment #65 by asilentboom Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:54:38 AM whoops typed the 1st sentence wrong. Why do so many people think its a right and not a privilege to game. sorry for double post. |
 | Comment #66 by xBorn Flukistx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:00:25 AM Valve and EA are both great developers which is why im buying the DLC but i will say this....FUCK YOU MICRO$OFT YOU GREEDY COCKSUCKERS! |
 | Comment #67 by APassingShadow Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:04:57 AM So PS3 is making the 360 look bad because they charge for live and now we gotta pay for free DLC because of this??? |
 | Comment #68 by Zee Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:08:54 AM Valve is full of BS. Even if Microsoft pushed them into doing it, they could easily bring it out on a OXM disk, or find a sponsor as someone said before. I'm real tired of Valve promising what they can't deliver, and don't act as if this is the first time they did this. There a long history of Valve lying, and I'm tired of people acting like there God. Anyway this is why I got it on the PC. I knew they would pull something along the lines of this. As in TF2, and CSX. I know it sounds like I hate Valve, but I don't. Valve can be a great at times, but horrible others. |
| Comment #69 by rowtheboat Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:13:56 AM this is why i'll be getting the next playstation not xbox |
 | Comment #70 by xXx3NIGM4xXx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:15:51 AM DO NOT BUY THIS DLC! If you want to prove a point, get as many people to boycott the shit out of it and DONT BUY IT! I love this game, a lot, but that doesn't mean I am going to shell out the $ to get it. What happened to the good 'ol days when DLC was free. Sure, there was very little of it, but as examples, ALL of the Halo 2 map packs were free, along with other small things, such as the KotOR space station thing. Point is, consumers need to band together and make a point. It will not only hurt Valve, it will hurt Micro$oft as well. They wont get the $ they want, and if we could all do this, what would be the response? They'd have to bend eventually. C'mon guys, YES WE CAN! |
 | Comment #71 by zyxomma100 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:17:16 AM No one thinks it's a privilege to game. But we do have to pay for the console, the Live subscription, and the game itself. Microsoft already gets a vast chunk of the money that's put into all this, so you'd think the vast majority of the money that goes into the DLC should go to the developer, and that THE DEVS should choose the price. MS of course should get a small (keyword small) percentage for hosting it on their service. Not so. The devs do the work, then MS picks the pricing (for the most part). We already pay for the bandwidth with the Live subscription, what else does MS want? At least it's actual content that was worked on after release, not that stupid download key stuff. I've already stopped buying games from a couple of devs that started pulling that crap. |
| Comment #72 by zyxomma100 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:18:38 AM By the way, I know MS has the right to do this. And I have to right to choose to not buy it and explain my reasoning. |
 | Comment #73 by Lunndonbridge Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:18:55 AM The way they word this is definitelly bullshit. Both Gears 1 and Lost Planet had free DLC and a bunch of other games too when did anyone complain bout that? I don't think I've ever heard anyone saying its unfair that they get to choose to give out free content. That excuse might have worked twenty years ago fucktards. I gladly pay for live because its worth it, but all this price bullshit is really grinding my gears. Fuck overpriced xbla games, fuck overpriced DLC, fuck bullshit excuses, and fuck you microsoft for charging an account I didn't use for 14 months. |
 | Comment #74 by NightVision Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:30:32 AM How come Burnout Paradise was able to have multiple free updates/DLC and L4D isn't? Is it Microsoft is playing favorites with EA? After all EA has their own rules on Microsoft because they have their own servers. |
 | Comment #75 by angryassasin857 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:47:10 AM I think we should all sign our bank accounts over to microsoft, let them take whatever they want , whenvever they want. besides sony has a much better linup of exclusives coming in 09-2010 than 360 does. no I am not a ps3 fanboi I love both my systems but the 360 has really let me down lately, I cant beleive I wasted 5 bucks on that pinnacle station dlc for mass effect, what a rip, not even any real missions, and sony gives away free themes and stuff while MS charges for that crap |
| Comment #76 by Mordhaus Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:47:59 AM Why would you ever play this on the 360 when you can play the far superior and far cheaper PC version? Regardless, there's no justifiable excuse (PERIOD) for releasing something for free on one platform and charging for it on another. Actually, there is ONE excuse, and it goes along the lines of "we just want more of your money". And to the people that are "just going to pay for it anyway", thanks for adding to the growing cancer that's killing and will eventually kill the gaming industry (again). Hopefully one day you'll wake up and realize just how much you're really getting fucked. |
 | Comment #77 by Teh BeZ Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:50:26 AM its will be good though, so ill buy it - everything costs money these days so i dont see a problem here. but microsoft are cunts though |
 | Comment #78 by Le3THal Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:02:35 AM Pretty stupid to bring this issue up now, if you ask me. Pc gamerz always get free content as it's kind of a pc thing & has been for many years before the 360 was even a blip of an idea on the radar. I myself game mostly on 360 now & don't mind paying but pc is definately where the value for money comes in as you only have to buy most games & just look forward to content updates/patches :0D Unless they are "Games For Windows Live Games" that's where microsoft charges the pc gamer for content, this is in affect and has been for awhile. For example: Fallout 3's content update, that you gotta pay for & a few others! I was shocked at paying for new map packs when i 1st got Call of duty Modern warfare on 360 as i'd been playing it on pc for about a year before the move to the 360 & i |
| Comment #79 by Le3THal Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:04:00 AM was seriously shocked that i would have to pay to play the extra content that i already got for free on the pc :0? ... To sum up, until microsoft get their "Games for windows live" catalog expanded onto most big releases this is gonna continue to happen, nothing we can do! |
 | Comment #80 by Codehead UK Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:07:22 AM it's so that other publishers that charge on the service don't get a bad RAP because of it. *Fixed* 540 isn't bad for DLC. There's worse around. MS do seem to shoot themseleves in foot with things like this. Epic managed to get a free DLC pack out for GoW1 by using sponsors, but MS made sure all the other DLC had to be paid for. Ultimately, this is our fault. Piracy has made the industry turn to draconian methods of ensuring their product is not stolen. Micro-payments are the future, get used to it. |
 | Comment #81 by Acid Mother Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:35:46 AM How about for once everyone who REALLY MEANS that they're sick of the price tags on free DLC just not buy it? I mean, I'm not completely against the micro transactions, and I think Arcade games are one of the truly better ideas that MS has come up with, but paying for extra content in a game has always been iffy with me. Sure, MS can use the "bandwidth charges, storage, etc." argument for the price of DLC, but can someone remind me again just why exactly were paying $60 a year for Gold?! |
 | Comment #82 by Tenlo Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:44:15 AM I've noticed actually that the DLC is a lot better than it used to be. If you look at some of the DLC for earlier games you could spend point son costumes and items and all sorts of pap, nowadays at least the DLC is extra content as the developers have realised that no-ones going to pay for something thats not worth having. As for boycotting, its a wonderful idea, but there'll be enough people out there who will still buy it regardless so you'll end up just missing out. Also ok, my foreign economics isn't great but in the UK 560 msp is about £4.50, now that's bugger all, thats not even a pack of fags. I could understand if it was £10 because thats a the price of a second hand game (Ok not a good one but still). If you consider you pay for your live, you pay for you internet, in the |
 | Comment #83 by petekey Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:58:33 AM so many people seem so shocked by this. i wonder how many of them dressed thier avatars in 5 dollar GoW or ODST armor? |
 | Comment #84 by Krisko Disko Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:59:26 AM There had better be some good achievements with this. But I know it's helping me in my decision to wait for L4D2 to hit the used racks. |
 | Comment #85 by Saizen13 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:01:23 AM Oh yeah right, no one who said they're getting a ps3 here is actually going to go get one. They're charging me $7 for some DLC?!?! Forget this console! lol. I bet it's seven dollars because MS wants to get a little bit for the free survival mode and this is their way of doing it. It won't be worth $7, not even close. Even if it was 400 points, this probably won't be worth it because it's not even a full campaign, just a half of one. They have already said it was built to play fast. All it's going to do is ruin people's 100% gamer score. Look, Microsoft has given back a little bit with the avatar stuff, but look at where that went, straight to the wallet. Are they going to eventually charge to use Facebook and Twitter on the 360? I know they won't, but you kinda have to ask you |
| Comment #86 by Saizen13 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:02:08 AM yourself that with how MS acts towards giving out free content. Relax MS, hook some gamers up every so often and they'll be willing to drop some cash here and there on some stuff. Friggin' greedy idiots. You already have a monopoly with PC's, simma down noa. |
 | Comment #87 by mijihon Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:07:36 AM Now that I have a gaming capable PC I will definately be renting L4D2 on the 360 for the achievements, then buying it for PC. |
| Comment #88 by mijihon Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:09:07 AM Also, completely agree with everything Saizen said. |
 | Comment #89 by MakoBallistic Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:15:58 AM seems kind of pointless to bring DLC out for a game that has an imminent sequel on the way, ill prob just wait for L4D2 as ill just be trading in the first one when i get it anyway. |
 | Comment #90 by x WALKER x x Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:41:38 AM "So the reason you're going to be paying for Crash Course this month" i wont be paying for anything thanks to microshit and there money grabbing techniques lol |
 | Comment #91 by Jimbo76 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:46:41 AM Fuckin microsoft. money hungry mother fuckers. |
 | Comment #92 by Derkie93026 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:59:07 AM This is the way i look at it... microsoft has already said they are not allowd to have free dlc with achievements fo free right... well does that mena new cheeves... i doubt it... so now we can have a new outlook on things.. Price=Achievements.. and if that s not the way it is going to work.. no buy lol sorry MS, but u did this to u'r self |
 | Comment #93 by demonizer_andy Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:18:42 AM goddam microsoft anythin for a cheap bit of cash, charge for user created items, then they charge for freeware and now they gonna keep xbox live a premium service,the price of games is going up what next they gona have a coin swlot put on the new consoles so u have to pay to turn it on |
| Comment #94 by le k1ng r1gg3rs Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:32:21 AM Microsoft use are money for a good purpose though the servers on xbox are so much better than ps3 and a load of people where given are points in 1 vs 100. all the countrys that had that beta for a couple months. they gave over 500,000 microsoft points to people from 1 vs 100 lol |
 | Comment #95 by NawtyCawty Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:41:10 AM Nothing good comes for free in this world. Wake up and smell the coffee. Just buy it and stop fucking complaining. Its not even that much money ffs. |
 | Comment #96 by x 19 Luke 87 x Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:45:34 AM I think they should do payment like ps3 and show it in actual currency. Makes it seem more money |
 | Comment #97 by Andreas_loel Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:55:22 AM Holy shit a company that wants money, must be a first. |
| Comment #98 by ChipSpudskin Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:01:58 AM It's good to have it officially announced. Now those who were confused over the issue know why it costs MS points. It seemed very obvious but, I guess if you've never played PC games or, specifically, any Valve games then, you wouldn't know. Now, some people just need to realise they still get to choose whether they buy it or not and no-one is forcing them to buy it. |
 | Comment #99 by xDrDeath Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:09:59 AM I'm in the army so I'm used to getting screwed over...fact is if you don't like it just don't buy it, which is exactly what I plan on doing. I can wait for left 4 dead 2 there's going to be plenty to play between now and then. |
 | Comment #100 by yamayamayaamaa Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:14:28 AM Should have been really really cheap then, not 560 lol. |
| Comment #101 by JD15 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:59:36 AM economics guys, 7$ is not that much, they are allowed to charge a reasonable price if people are willing to buy and frankly 7$ is pretty reasonable, not to mention buy a pc or ps3 if all your gonna do is bitch about microsoft |
 | Comment #102 by makk 88 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:08:50 AM Why don't Vavle make a deal with MS for some kind of contract to release DLC for free, with a steam blade on the dashboard. |
 | Comment #103 by Zinsch Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:25:40 AM Well, I have to say MS are only as bad as everyone else, sure content might be a little ovepriced sometimes, but it's there if we want it. Not to mention the avalanche of decent games on thier way, but if people are that pissed off they can wait for L4D2 or play something else, at least there's a choice. |
 | Comment #104 by Mark Emsea Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:32:18 AM Seriously considering letting my Gold subscription run down and swapping over to a PS3. The costs are outweighing the benefits for me. |
 | Comment #105 by Brian Stallings Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:34:59 AM at the end of the day most people will cry and say that they dont wanna pay but end up paying so it really doesnt matter good for microsoft for getting a ton of money |
 | Comment #106 by kelnoker Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:54:35 AM sure it can make angry to have to pay for the 360 version and not for the pc version, but anyway we all know that everybody on pc can hack it and get it for free, my friend alrwady did it lol |
 | Comment #107 by l.maciver Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:57:29 AM you guys are complaining about pricing? is anyone use to it yet, cause i am, its just predictable, nothing has changed... |
| Comment #108 by xbox360freak222 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 07:26:36 AM fuck this shit what is the dlc for l4d i would download it if its free i think of games been out for some time all dlc for it should be free or if new dlc for comes out old dlc becomes free or some thing any way dlc should be free we pay couple hunderd bucks for the sysyem and more for live and then the games i mean dlc should be free microsoft are fuck gready fucks |
| Comment #109 by mini0mk Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 07:27:45 AM im sick of people on here saying "but microsoft is a company." IDC if microsoft is a company so is vavle but they are not wanting to sell the new DLC to their users. We pay for a yearly sub and they won't even let us have some free content? Ok they gave stuff out on 1vs100 big fucking deal the odds in getting to be the 1 or being in the mob are very slim 1 in 30,000+ |
 | Comment #110 by X nosgoth X Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:11:20 AM How about adding this DLC to L4D2 when it comes out? I heard (the rumors were a little vague, and I didn't look into it any further) that Halo: ODST is going to have the downloadable Halo 3 maps (plus 3 new ones) on a standalone disc. Maybe thats's something for Valve to think about? Or maybe what I heard was nonsense and I just made a dick of myself. |
 | Comment #111 by TheLastAntidote Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:11:51 AM Yeah, this is bullshit. While I didn't want to pay for this, they could've atleast made it cheaper than 560 MSP. Microsoft's pricing has been really getting out of hand as of late. |
 | Comment #112 by EverybodysRival Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:29:29 AM Doesn't matter to me, getting it anyway! |
 | Comment #113 by TwiceAzzNice Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:32:13 AM What BULLSHIT! PC free xbox 360 not free -_- |
| Comment #114 by JoRDaN 210791 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:46:48 AM Stop complaining about money you want DLC buy it like everyone else, you all knew DLC costs so what were you all expecting free DLC.... keep dreaming, stop moaning, buy it. |
 | Comment #115 by D Diggiddy Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:49:13 AM Seriously, it's only $7.00. Either you like the game or you don't. But to piss and moan over $7.00 is absurd. Sure it would be nice if it was free but it's not. Either buy it or don't buy it. It's a great game in my opinion and I have no problem coughing up $7.00 for a new campaign. |
| Comment #116 by mini0mk Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:53:51 AM ok its $7.00 or w/e but we are in a recession :) |
 | Comment #117 by Richie360 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:54:30 AM F**K U MICROSOFT! Microsoft is the MOST rich and GREEDY C*NT company! |
| Comment #118 by FourChan Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 08:55:16 AM I wont be buying it |
 | Comment #119 by Shermo1984 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 09:08:50 AM 4 campaigns on disc 40 quid when first out that's 10 quid a campaign, under a fiver for 1 bargain imo, end of the day a console is convenience so you expect to pay more for stuff, also it will probably come with achievements now so more reason to buy it. |
 | Comment #120 by Bebe Buell Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 09:14:39 AM That is the worst bull$hit I've heard in a while! |
 | Comment #121 by xIBRAWLERIx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 09:53:19 AM Don't mean to insult any of the users of this site, but seriously, just because a game doesn't have achievements with the dlc doesn't mean there is no incentive to purchase the dlc in the first place, people should just accept the fact that Valve has no choice but to charge us and it really is beyond their control; Also anyone that wants to change to a PS3 because Microsoft are charging us should grow up, if they don't charge us for the dlc then they'll eventually (meaning very far down the line) run out of money, you'd charge for dlc if you could... and you know it |
 | Comment #122 by pvtkjoe117 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 09:54:10 AM Lol,, the first DLC lacked achievements because it was free.. What BS, if it's going to add achievements it should be free at least then you don't know to pay an BS price to fix completion score. It is so damn annoying to see 1000/1250 or similar crap. |
| Comment #123 by xIBRAWLERIx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:02:40 AM Yeah, i've got to agree with you on the subject of annoying 1000/1250's, but i guess we cant really do anything because its not up to valve anymore, besides i dont even know if there are achievements coming with it, does anyone know if there is? BTW im getting the dlc regardless |
 | Comment #124 by HyperChondriacMusic Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:04:51 AM i needed some convincing to get L4D on pc, this has done it. it might only be £5/$7, but saving on future content + the community and game in general is so much better on the PC but thats a completely different matter. and yet again, Microsoft's excuse for this (this is my main beef) that it gives a bad wrap to other developers, so i guess the developers do set the price, but it has to go through microwhore and if its not "financially viable", then they wont do it. not surprised really. but it's a pretty pathetic excuse. and on "it must have achievements to make it worth while", i might be a gamer-score-whore, thats why i love this website so much, but i hate it when it goes over 1000, and that doesn't give me incentive and shouldn't anyone else, its about the fucking games and conte |
 | Comment #125 by shadowfeeder Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:05:46 AM I'm kinda "meh" to this DLC. And L4D2 as well. Might get L4D2 when/if it drops in price though, it's good for a few runs at least. |
 | Comment #126 by minimitch28 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:11:28 AM this is bloody gay having to pay for additions to a game i jsut a stupid and greedy idea i mean with call of duty that has 3 map packs and it works out that now ive got all the map packs ive paid the same amount for them 3 as i did for the god damn game itself |
 | Comment #127 by SevenJesterHats Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:22:23 AM No Achievements = No Sale. why pay for something im only gonna breeze through, check it out and thats it. the only reason i bought a xbox is for gamerscore :) |
 | Comment #128 by SlightConfuse Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:22:51 AM for all those who are crying and getiing a Ps3 they are not even getting this DLC. They never get DLc or the get years later. If your mad about the price then DO NOT BUY IT. |
 | Comment #129 by ShinAkuma Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:24:18 AM Wont buy...Fuck it! |
| Comment #130 by xIBRAWLERIx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:28:34 AM @ 127 WTF!, let me get this straight; you purchased an xbox 360 console with the sole intention of getting gamerscore, let me reiterate; you spent something like $200 (i wouldnt know, im english) just so you could get some virtual points that in know way benefit your life, well in dumbass... |
 | Comment #131 by DarkGin87 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:28:54 AM To all people who are complaining for it being paid DLC, Don't buy it if you don't want to spend your money. your not being forced to spend you're money ya cheap bunch of gamers |
| Comment #132 by dmister Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:38:57 AM Microsoft are amazingly greedy and I dislike them but they are just as greedy as anyone else! DLC is overpriced though but the only way to lower the prices is to not buy everything or wait till it is deal of the wekk e.t.c! |
| Comment #133 by dmister Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:40:51 AM Also @127 You bought an Xbox for gamerscore! WTF - I can understand you may like it but you buy a games console so you can get achievements! What bout buying one for the games! |
 | Comment #134 by MrDudeTheFirst Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:52:55 AM Doesnt it say that if M$ wants to be greedy the 360 aint getting the DLC at all ? thats how i understand it, or else im just ignorant :P |
 | Comment #135 by Dr Bob Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:56:26 AM MS lose money every time a console is sold. I don't blame them for overcharging us on accessories and forcing devs to charge for DLC. They are a business, like Valve, who need money to survive. Think about it guys. |
 | Comment #136 by DaChiefOfOwnage Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:57:36 AM MICRO$OFT. Money hungry bastards. They ALWAYS rip us gamers off. And when they decide to make something FREE or give us a discount, it's usually some crap that no-one wants anyway. |
| Comment #137 by DaChiefOfOwnage Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 11:04:19 AM Oh and #94, it doesn't cost Micro$oft anything to produce M$ Points... |
 | Comment #138 by mjc0961 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 11:04:50 AM We all knew MS doesn't let people give out free DLC that often, so I don't know why people are so surprised. Pissed I understand, but surprised? Don't get it. Also, I have to lol at all these people saying "RAWR IM GETTING A PS3 NOW!!" First of all, you get to pay for DLC on the Playstation Store too. Plus, Valve pretty much hates the PS3, so you wouldn't get this DLC, let alone the original game, there anyway. This is not a slam against Sony, though. By all means, buy a PS3. Just do it because it has some games you want to play, not because you're pissed at MS and want to show them that you're not to be messed with. |
 | Comment #139 by xXcool_tall_hallXx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 11:29:18 AM I think it should be the developers who decide the price of DLC because they put the work in and they did it because they want the game to be fun. whilst Microsoft did almost no work, yet they want to charge people |
 | Comment #140 by padraiglovesyou Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 11:58:05 AM Only getting it if there's achievements I'd rather just wait till L4D2 comes out |
| Comment #141 by crazyman Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:14:41 PM lol!!! @ no.1 micro$oft! |
 | Comment #142 by panicky Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:23:14 PM micro$oft and microshit, some real clever stuff there, real cute too. if ya hate "micro$oft" so much why are you even bothering bitching? trade it in by all means, while you're at it chuck your other microsoft products out the window including your gaming rigs, that'll show em. this is a common microsoft practice, and as for the valve wanting to give the DLC for free thing? i'll call bullshit on it any day of the week, you can ride the valve dick train all you want, and then ask yourselves why companies like Valve and Lionhead openly LIE to their fans, oh that's right, because you people will bitch and moan, but still buy it, peace. |
 | Comment #143 by ScuzzyBunny FTN Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:38:50 PM First off...anyone "switching to a PS3"...you do realize L4D is only on the 360/ PC, so, no, you won't be charged for DLC, since it doesn't exist. As for defending Valve, well good company or not, they have been milking L4D since launch. When it came out it retailed at $49.99...it got popular and they bumped it to $59.99. MS had nothing to do with that. They offer "free DLC", then package it with a GOTY edition (that cost $59.99 when the reg edition was down to $49.99 again) a month later. MS had nothing to do with that. Now they add DLC, for a price, a year after launch, and 2 months prior to the sequel. Maybe MS is putting pressure on to slap a price on it, but they definitely aren't the only greedy ones. I'll be passing on this one, and just be picking up L4D2 (which is $5 cheaper if yo |
| Comment #144 by ScuzzyBunny FTN Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:40:50 PM ...if you pre-order it...maybe that's where some of that $7 is going!) |
 | Comment #145 by Dark Knight1990 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:33:45 PM As much as I like my Xbox 360 I have to admit, Microsoft sucks. They could be so much more successful if they'd reduce the price of online content and subscriptions. People would be much more likely to buy a 360 over the PS3. |
 | Comment #146 by Pedro7_2000 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 01:57:48 PM It's unfortunate, but it won't affect L4D 2 sales. |
 | Comment #147 by STZ513 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:05:24 PM Wow! Micro$oft is behing L4Ds DLC not being free? I never would have guessed! Yes, making people spend money on DLC is punishing publishers and we are just a bunch of idiots that will believe whatever you say. |
| Comment #148 by angryassasin857 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:10:24 PM Between a $200 console (average price) , once a year with the way they break down, 50 bucks a year for xbl gold, and 60 dollars a game wich most gamers buy an avererage of lets say 5 a year, do the math. to all who said things like "microsoft is a company that wants to make money" microsoft is one of the most successful and biggest companies in the world , they are worth something like 200 BILLION dollars, I mean just because walmart wants to make money does that make it ok to put all these family owned buissinesses out of buisiness???? just to make a few more dollars |
 | Comment #149 by snake2895 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:22:29 PM The whole reason why this lack of DLC and Left 4 Dead 2 crap started is because of Micro$oft, Valve always wanted to release content for free on the consoles but they've been debating with M$ for months about it and because of this theres been only the survival pack coming out, Hell I heard L4D 2 was only coming out thanks to the lack of DLC so there you go blame Microsoft trying to screw up Valve's Rep. |
 | Comment #150 by iruhlman Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:41:02 PM if it bothers you that much....dont buy the DLC, its really that simple for those switching to PS3, um yeah have fun with that. and good points #143, but many overlook stuff like that all the time and dwell on the here and now issue first or they just forget. |
 | Comment #151 by LUXB0X Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:43:46 PM congrats to valve. even after being bullied by microsoft, they are still coming out on top as being a stand up company. atleast to me, it sounds like they are making games for the best interest of the gamer - which is quality games and making things free that you either already payed for or should have had included in the game. kind of puts all the other companys to shame, like the guitar hero shit that makes you pay for every song unless its some christmas crap that you're supposed to feel special for getting free... psh, lame. I like that they have had two releases on the price and the reasoning but they have yet to let the customers know anything about achievements or what we're actually buying other than a new "map". lame... if i didnt like this game so much, i wouldnt buy it. its a sh |
 | Comment #152 by joshua777777 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:44:14 PM FUCK Microsoft, haven't they fucking got enough money. It's not that i cant afford the point's but its fucking stupid. GRRRR I'm gonna play my ps3 now. Fuck xbox, i might even play the wii. :P |
 | Comment #153 by DeXNiNjA Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 02:56:24 PM Only thing bullshit here is PC users get it free wtf is up with that shit? |
 | Comment #154 by MOYFplox Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:01:24 PM 400 points maybe, but a stupid number like 560, no dice. |
 | Comment #155 by Fryza Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:17:21 PM Lol @ 5. Anyway, meh. If you like a game, just pay for the content. Big deal. |
 | Comment #156 by SuperWoody64 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:18:38 PM Supply and Demand. We demand it, they supply it. Well technically they aren't supplying it, valve is but you get my idea I'm sure. Also, no chieves, no buy for me. I'd rather put that $7 towards l4d2. On another note, why no CE? |
 | Comment #157 by The Fuzzy Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:20:39 PM pretty gay if you ask me cause valve should be able to price their own stuff not micro$oft |
| Comment #158 by xXx3NIGM4xXx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:33:35 PM If you're tired of Microsoft charging for DLC, then join my group! It's public, and all we have to do is get like-minded individuals who are tired of this DLC bullshit. DLC, if no achievements are present, should be free, period. Even if there are achievements, damn near everything is for 800MSP which is usually a fucking rip off. If they were to lower that price to 400MSP than even that would be acceptable. The only things I could understand that should cost more are legit EXPANSIONS. (Think Shivering Isles) Arcade titles should stay the same, generally, but even the pricing on those are getting a little ridiculous. My group is one that abstains from buying into Microsofts scheme to milk us for all we're worth. Again, it's a public group, so join up if you're tired of this and want to boy |
 | Comment #159 by The Bum-Mobile Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:34:14 PM I never did blame Valve, thought that the gaming community had figured it was MS. Not gonna lie, I will get both Crash Course and L4D2. That's just me. CC's pricing should be up to Valve, but it isn't. That's just how it is. |
| Comment #160 by xXx3NIGM4xXx Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:34:35 PM cott DLC. There is power in numbers my friends, and as our numbers grow, we can cost Microsoft a lot of money, eventually, and hopefully, proving a point. |
| Comment #161 by boomdizzle2 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 03:59:07 PM The truth is I will buy the DLC and l4d2 because l4d is a great game. Microsoft knows that and in the long run I will enjoy both very much and will probably not be disapointed with my purchase. If you are one of the people who say they won't buy it that is your problem. get over it. |
 | Comment #162 by SonicDPsycho Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:05:46 PM It's called free market capitalism. If the other companies want to compete, then they can either release a better product for a price or give it free. Microsoft, as usual is using its stranglehold on business to push other companies around and wring money from its customers. |
 | Comment #163 by CheesyToast111 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:10:26 PM Come on people, they gave us one DLC for free, and its only 560 points, does it really matter. I'd get it even if it cost 1000, I just want to play L4D. |
 | Comment #164 by waterhead71 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 04:30:18 PM That's Micro$oft for ya.lol.This isn't anything new.My buddy told me he hasn't got his 800 points for buying all the summer of arcade games.but hey we all stop buyin DLC they make it all free.It's Capitalism.Supply and Demand people. |
 | Comment #165 by CyBoRgOsAuRuS13 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:27:30 PM I think that if Microsoft doesn't want publishers to look bad by making people pay for their content, why can't they be competitive with content |
 | Comment #166 by ZonaBoy89 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:35:59 PM meh dont really care for it |
 | Comment #167 by El Sc0rch0o Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 05:55:28 PM too little too late valve, the first time youve let me down in a while. |
| Comment #168 by snake2895 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:04:16 PM Oh and I might add as well paying for maps is a pathetic joke and I feel sorry for people who sucker into those Halo 3/Gears 2 maps. |
 | Comment #169 by newbsicle Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:20:36 PM I don't know if anyone remembers but they did this to epic as well. They too once had a tradition of supporting games that were supported by fans free of charge. Then after the first gears maps I suppose a sponsor was never found and the maps were 10bucks. |
| Comment #170 by newbsicle Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:24:00 PM Also with utIII epic wanted to release more dlc and thought they could just label it as a patch. The problem was the update was larger than 200mb which on the microsofts console constitutes it as dlc. All dlc must charge the customer so instead of doing that they decided to never release the content at all. :/ |
 | Comment #171 by HuTcH Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:49:39 PM i dont care at all i love left 4 dead |
 | Comment #172 by Schism Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 06:59:54 PM money makes the world spin.....M$wants money money money! they charge alot for DLC and there is always tuns of it...how come they dont just make LIVE free? |
| Comment #173 by Deathbeard 666 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 07:56:07 PM @#70 fuck you. get a fucking life. oh yeah boycott buying it youre such a goddamned mother fucking piece of shit you seriously are going to boycott a $7 purchase? all of you whining about this shit need to fucking get cancer and die. |
| Comment #174 by unkee888 Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 09:20:57 PM I sold my L4D Long time ago, im just gonna buy L4D2 |
 | Comment #175 by ADenton109 Friday, September 11, 2009 @ 04:57:48 AM Microsoft money doesn't make you happy! So stop making people pay you robbers! Oh and #173 go back to your mum she misses you and your not doing so good with out her i see. |
| Comment #176 by MrDudeTheFirst Friday, September 11, 2009 @ 10:14:50 AM @175 we are no robbers ? wtf.. Valve WANTS to realease it FREE. read the article... its just M$ that wants money out of everything they make online.... |
| Comment #177 by MrDudeTheFirst Friday, September 11, 2009 @ 10:15:25 AM Oh wait sorry man read it wrong :P |
You need to register before being able to post comments on our news articles. |
Game Info
| Developed By: Valve Published By: EA Genre: Action Release Date: US: November 20, 2008 Europe: Japan: |  | ||
Collection: | 2866 (Add to collection) | ||
| Wishlist: | 240 (Add to wishlist) | ||
Game Rating
85 | 84 | 0 |
| You need to log in or register to rate games. |
| User Score is based on 2317 user ratings. |
Screenshots
 |
My360Achievements
| You need to log in or register to use My360Achievements. |
Twitter
x360a Around The Web
Five Latest
|
Nov, 21 - Need For Speed: Shift
Nov, 19 - Resident Evil 5 Nov, 19 - Divinity 2: Ego Draconis Nov, 19 - No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise Nov, 17 - Forza Motorsport 3 |
Poll
Sister Sites
Affiliates
