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Borderlands Will Actually Have 3,166,880 Weapons
Written Wednesday, July 29, 2009 By Dan Webb
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Last week we brought you the latest Borderlands trailer, whereby it boasted 87 bazillion guns. Obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek, over-the-top figure used to raise a few smiles, but now, thanks to the MTV Multiplayer Blog, we finally have some actual figure of how many weapons will feature in the game ... and boy is it a lot.

MTV managed to get a glimpse at the debug database in the latest preview build where Gearbox could select certain weapons, revealing that Borderlands will feature 3,166,880 weapons. Yes, count it, 3,166,880 guns. That includes all variant possibilities from scope size and colour, to bullet effects and of course, gun type.

The figure was lifted from a pre-release preview build, so that number could rise ever so slightly between now and October, but you'd have thought, that by now, all they'll be doing is polishing that bad boy up.

Borderlands is out on October 20th and 23rd in North America and Europe respectively.

 

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Comment #1 by jackanape
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:56:55 AM
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There had better not be an achievement for using them all...........


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Comment #2 by vgcollateral
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:57:45 AM
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3,166,880... i wonder whos job it was to count them all. i hope there is an achievement for using them all just to see who gets it.


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Comment #3 by maatz
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:58:10 AM
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wow, that's a shitload of guns... nic3


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Comment #4 by CunningFox
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:59:01 AM
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This is actually really impressive.

This just moved up to 2nd on my 2009 list.

(With 1st being Forza 3 and 3rd being L4D 2)


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Comment #5 by l.maciver
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:59:17 AM
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i argee with #1, that would be a nightmare.


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Comment #6 by R3NEGADE UK
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 08:59:32 AM
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why do people write first when they get the first comment as if anyone cares or if it had any meaning its no different writing first then writing 6
sorry but been seeing this a lot lately and i just got a bit annoyed


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Comment #7 by TriRock
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:01:13 AM
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Hmm, there better be something else to do than marvel over the builds...


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Comment #8 by macd
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:01:32 AM
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Yeah it's 3 million or whatever, but its not really since a lot of that is scopes, laser targeters and colour etc variations. While technically it is 3 million, I'd be far more interested in nowing how many actual distinct guns there is (though I imagine it would still be quite a lot).

and I loled at number 2 saying first. Hahahahah.


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Comment #9 by Sphere Shot
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:02:17 AM
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lmao @ #1


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Comment #10 by Elit3 m0nkey
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:04:05 AM
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I agree with #1, that would completely suck.

S*** this might be my fourth game.


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Comment #11 by Kailon791
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:07:14 AM
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definately agree with #1. that would just be the most evil achievement ever created


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Comment #12 by pittsburqe
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:08:01 AM
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Still undeciced about getting this game.


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Comment #13 by phate89 0
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:08:06 AM
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achievment unlocked - 1000G - use every gun in the game

haha....


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Comment #14 by oFILECOMPLAINTo
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:12:37 AM
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i'm guessing that number counts for using all the weapon variables, so realisticly there is only ''87'' but alot of modifications can be made. This number is just to attract customers obviously.


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Comment #15 by Vita Ante Acta
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:13:55 AM
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@12

SO MUCH RAGE, lol


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Comment #16 by Z3R0 S1X
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:20:54 AM
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I agree with number one like a few others have. Of course they'll put an achievement like that in the game, why shouldn't they? It'll probably be worth no points or almost no points.


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Comment #17 by Darkxid3
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:22:11 AM
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is that all? XD


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Comment #18 by SteamingClown
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:22:20 AM
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13 has a point. But, still, the variation possibilities does mean a lot of people on the game will have different weapons...it's all good. Cannot wait for this game, I love RPG's.


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Comment #19 by Dox Almighty
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:22:31 AM
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agree with #13 - this is misleading as hell. there's obviously not 3 million guns, there's 3 million variations.

very different. in my opinion, taking an assault rifle and adding a scope, different bullet effects, etc. is still using the same damn gun.

how many gun TYPES are there, please.

still want the game, but this is a lameass ploy to me.


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Comment #20 by Madtown B
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:23:18 AM
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#1 = best first comment ever.

I think i want to look into this game, i like the thought of having over 3 million ways to dispatch my enemy.


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Comment #21 by Veles
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:24:15 AM
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Pfff, wish companies wouldn't try to spin their games like this. Reminds me of Too Human, there weren't really thousands of weapons, only about 10 or so different types with varying degrees of power and with different combinations of magical enhancements available.


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Comment #22 by II KaotiK
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:32:26 AM
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Lol. They will do a Bulletwitch.

"Achievement Unlocked - 1G - Use EVERY gun"

Just to piss the completionists off :P


~Bryce


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Comment #23 by Vendetta
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:37:21 AM
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eh too bad it comes out the same day as Dragon Age: Origins. Rental for me and if it holds up to the hype it was getting when it was announced then it might be a buy


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Comment #24 by NuSurge
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:37:23 AM
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I have a feeling that 3,166,860 of those weapons won't even be good.


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Comment #25 by SegaSaturnSNK
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:44:26 AM
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3,166,880? Well it isn't really that much weapons because it did say scopes, colors, and all that crap so it isn't really 3 million weapons. Its like maybe 100 guns but with another over 3 million useless things on the side.


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Comment #26 by N00B EATA
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:46:14 AM
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What a disappointment...I wanted 87 bazillion.


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Comment #27 by PerpetualHeaven
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:48:18 AM
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I doubt you would have to use all guns because they're variants. You can have an M95, for example, with over 100 variations because you can have different pieces on it. So, it's essentially the same gun, but different parts.


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Comment #28 by swashbuckler91
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:49:06 AM
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@22
My name is Bryce, also :D

But yeah, text is very misleading. There's 3,166,880 VARIATIONS to the guns.


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Comment #29 by ninjaraiden2003
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:49:13 AM
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I agree with #25...its really kind of just saying here are 10 guns for you, but there is up to 3,166,880 possible different alternate combinations you can make to them with add-ons and upgrades


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Comment #30 by NFaMuS one
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:51:24 AM
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Awesome! That will make one hell of a collection achievement! lol


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Comment #31 by alex31991
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:56:08 AM
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#1 couldn't have said it any better...that would by far be the most ridiculous achievement to date


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Comment #32 by partydudes
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 09:57:24 AM
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1000/1000 for this game will be insane!


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Comment #33 by Justin Case
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:13:00 AM
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That much guns?!!!

Oh my goodness


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Comment #34 by hxg
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:15:38 AM
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Well in the end we have 10 weapons that just have different colors :P


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Comment #35 by Ali_P_84
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:18:35 AM
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What's the betting that most people will use the same gun all the time anyway.


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Comment #36 by unkee888
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:24:21 AM
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Found best gun in game - DMG:9999

Now i dont have to use other useless guns.


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Comment #37 by StrikeFear14
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:26:55 AM
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@2

You wouldn't need to count them all. Simply take the number of colors, gun types, bullet types, etc..and multiply them all together.


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Comment #38 by Octobox
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:31:13 AM
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this is sick as hell... hurry up 10/20!!!


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Comment #39 by Link0913
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:34:02 AM
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it makes you wonder how many attachments there are though considering there not magical upgrades like someone said for too human, also wouldn't this apply to melee as well? either way it will probably have to wait since its sandwiched between alpha protocol and mw2


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Comment #40 by its delicious
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:34:15 AM
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With all the bells, whistles, colors and useless decorations, most of those 3+ million permutations are probably going to look and feel pretty similar!


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Comment #41 by ZoMbiE_DooMsDaY
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:42:14 AM
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Can't wait for this game. Ever since I read GameInformer's piece on this game I have been eyeing it for a long time now lol


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Comment #42 by Zork
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:43:00 AM
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thats a respectable amount of guns


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Comment #43 by Fata1Stryke
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:44:34 AM
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@#1 I wonder how many people would lose their lives completely to that achievement if it were included.

This was cool when I first heard 500,000, but even that was kinda pointless, and now it's just excessive beyond all reason.


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Comment #44 by SimpIer
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:51:20 AM
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DAYMN!


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Comment #45 by coedmaester
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:52:40 AM
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Ummm how the fuck is that actually possible :O
There has to be a catch.
Combining different items to weapons creates new weapons.
But over 3Mil combinations!!
There must be over 10,000 items in the whole game!!!


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Comment #46 by Iregore
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:02:46 AM
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A 0G achievement for using them all or a 0G achievement for getting shot by them all, either (or both) would be a laugh, but near impossible to get so I would hope no points for them. Oh, best idea, both have 0G achievements and each also unlocks a gamerpic.


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Comment #47 by Lothrian
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:05:13 AM
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Thats not very impressive really, there will proberly be around 500 - 1000 actual unique guns in the game with loads of accessories that make up 3million+ variations of guns, the older NFS games had car decals and variants that added upto over 1 billion, this is nothing new to a game.


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Comment #48 by waterhead71
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:07:02 AM
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this game weapons claims is like the m4 and ak family variations.theres literally thousand of modern variation and attachment or what not but its still the same gun but maybe itll fire a different type of round or have a different butt on it.

lets hear what the game is actually about and not how many weapons u have cuz if thats how they are trying to sell this game its not gonna work for me.


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Comment #49 by DrRaymond Solar
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:12:23 AM
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they keep building up the hype to the number of guns, making it sound bigger than it actually is. however, changing the bullets adding a scope and whatever makes it yours, makes it unique to the individual. only you have that gun. my guess is that you find unique weapons scattered throughout the game and then you upgrade it however you want. thats really cool. it means that the weapons design is not set in stone. if you want to make your shotgun purple with a scope and shoot lasers thats for you to decide. or if you want it black silenced and shooting buckshot good for you. the world is completely open.


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Comment #50 by DaChiefOfOwnage
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:20:03 AM
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Jeez all you people complaining about the guns; you still get about 80 different gun types... surely that would be enough...

You guys need to stop bitchin'.


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Comment #51 by czad
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:22:05 AM
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I think they should brag about their unique weapons. Does anyone have that number yet? If it is higher than 100 I'll be surprised.


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Comment #52 by Silent_Murder92
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:24:44 AM
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not that many then really...;]


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Comment #53 by Miguel EOF
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:26:01 AM
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i can already see it ....--use all 3,166,880 guns 20G --kill 200 with each weapon 10G


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Comment #54 by R_A_LEE20
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:27:49 AM
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If u actually read on the MTV site they did the math:

It would take an est. 6.025 Years if u find 1 gun every minute.

Now thats good n all but i wouldn't want to spend the next 6 years trying to find every gun but then again Duke Nukem Forever will be just about to come out for the Xbox 720 along side Halo 5 & Call of Duty 12!


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Comment #55 by CAPTAIN PHATMAN
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:44:46 AM
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@ #2 maybe a computer counted them?


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Comment #56 by leburn98
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:45:13 AM
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@ Comment #47 by Lothrian
Not impressive? Really? Listen to what you are saying. You said it is probably more like 500-1000 unique weapons. Even if that's all there really is for unique weapons, you can't seriously think that is not impressive. I can't think of a single game that has that many unique weapons, and sure as hell not 3M variations.


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Comment #57 by Suki
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 11:47:40 AM
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Its a crazy type of hype becasue really who cares as long as there more than 10 thats fine, in reality i doubt there will be more than 50 types of different gun which is loads.


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Comment #58 by The Dark Wyvern
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:03:48 PM
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I remember hearing of this game way back when Oblivion came out, and how everyone was going "It's like Oblivion with guns!" But we all know that game is Fallout 3. =p

Still, after seeing some videos for this game, it looks promising. And yes, the 3 million stat is just a stat. You can have that many if you customize every single weapon to every single spec. Which, I'm sure some people would try to do, but is not practical.

However, if you look at this from customization then it still does appeal to people like me that just love to customize instead of having the same old boring class of guns.


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Comment #59 by Vandiloo
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:05:41 PM
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It sounds like the guns will be generated randomly kind of like Diablo used to generate weapons. I really like the concept. I really encourages multiple play throughs since you know you'll never get the ".44 Magnum of the Gods" on your next game! But just maybe you'll find a ".50 Desert Eagle of the Eagle"!


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Comment #60 by lordskorrkeeper
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:08:56 PM
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This game looks AWESOME!!!!


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Comment #61 by A HOM3L3SS MAN
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:09:57 PM
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#1 Just jinxed it...


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Comment #62 by Daiphyer.
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:22:38 PM
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This is the Role-playin-Shooter right ?


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Comment #63 by TWiiST3D v13
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:23:49 PM
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No achivement PLEASE.


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Comment #64 by N4K
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:27:20 PM
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first thing #8 you are a retard there was no mention of being 1st by anyone not even #2 read before u post dumbass. ok second 90% of people on here are bitchin about this why? sure they are misleading us with 3mill guns but does it matter its prolly still a really fun game that i look forward to. oh also 1st ;}


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Comment #65 by A 2rue boofer
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:27:49 PM
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I am gonna see what the achievements are before I play this game


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Comment #66 by blitz7287
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 12:28:50 PM
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I seriously hope theres an achievement for that lol. then we'll be able to tell who game-saves if they have a 1000 within like the first week.


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Comment #67 by Da_moopintot
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 01:06:20 PM
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ONLY 3,166,880 guns?!
well fuck this game..


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Comment #68 by B1indSide
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 01:10:57 PM
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50 guns x 50 colors x 45 accessories x 30 bullet variations

= 3,375,000

Obviously this is just made up, but it shows you how EASY it is to make it seem like there's a lot, as in this example there are only 50 guns... which you can alter slightly.


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Comment #69 by Zacxx201
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 01:18:17 PM
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#67 I know right Halo has 10 times more =P


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Comment #70 by Alex Goodman
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 01:22:13 PM
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I'm just waiting for the weapons to be like a couple of handguns with ever increasing barrel lengths by the mm xD


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Comment #71 by SharpXXShooter
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 01:25:03 PM
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3,166,880 guns and only 4 of them will be any good.... Who cares how many different colours you can make your pistol, or how many crappy guns there are. Gloat about the gameplay instead of pretty pictures.


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Comment #72 by DrRaymond Solar
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 02:02:34 PM
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#68 well by that account that sounds pretty good. 10 bucks says way less bullet variations and colors. I mean really its not like they are going to give you every color in the fuckin crayon box. more like CODMW where you have a few reasonable skins. and how many bullet variations could there really be? Laser, chemical, fire, ice, lightning, regular, silver, gold, poison, exploding. thats ten. add to that list if you want but those are the reasonable ones. so like ten bullets and 20 skins means 100 guns. i think thats plenty considering the customization you can do to it.


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Comment #73 by RenegadeSniper7
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 05:31:36 PM
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Now, apply this to Halo...


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Comment #74 by Balverine
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 06:27:02 PM
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I don't plan to try and use ALL those combos. But atleast its nice we won't get exactly bored with just 1 :D


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Comment #75 by ssssssssssssss1
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 @ 10:14:46 PM
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HOLY PISS.... better not be an achieve for that


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Comment #76 by Zmoke
Thursday, July 30, 2009 @ 01:35:53 AM
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So if there's a weapon editor, you could get that amount in no time. If a shotgun and a shotgun with some rust in it are counted as different weapons, then the list can raise easily up. But anyways, that's a good way to go, hopefully the other developers will start to make unique weapons as well.


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Comment #77 by CraigChaotic
Thursday, July 30, 2009 @ 04:47:36 PM
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Already Pre-Orderd this bad boy like a few days ago.


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Comment #78 by Cargot35
Friday, July 31, 2009 @ 12:20:02 AM
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I feel bad for the people who will boost for these achievements.


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Comment #79 by GunnerBinx25
Saturday, August 01, 2009 @ 04:51:15 PM
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3,166,880 is the number of possibilities using combinations. there is probably like 60 tyoes of guns though which is still cool.


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Comment #80 by X doc1542 X
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 06:29:36 PM
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Y does every1 keep repeting each other????????!!!!!!!!


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Comment #81 by blobby1000
Saturday, August 22, 2009 @ 02:03:57 PM
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bum me till my teeth rattle thats alot.


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Comment #82 by Dniworrom
Saturday, August 22, 2009 @ 05:13:51 PM
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blah blah blah...


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Comment #83 by fattiemanny007
Friday, September 04, 2009 @ 01:36:02 PM
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that is wicked.. yo i cant even imagine that ...... dats so cool for a change a game that is more realistic...


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Comment #84 by fattiemanny007
Friday, September 04, 2009 @ 01:39:32 PM
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that would be pritty OD if their waz an achievement for using every single weapon in the game... MY LORD!!! talking about hours and hours of your life...... playing dis game...

I've always dreamed of a game realistic like this...


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Comment #85 by drewster23
Sunday, November 15, 2009 @ 05:56:22 PM
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It would take thousands of hours of game time to get every weapon, because 1. too many weapons suck and you dont have time or space to pick up shoot then pikc up another repeat. 2.theres still a chance of getting the same gun twice. 3. who has a life to do that? (there no achievemnt for it because its nearly impossible)


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Developer:
Gearbox Software

Publisher:
2K Games

Genre:
Shooter RPG

Release:

US: October 20, 2009
Europe: October 23, 2009

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