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Ensemble: Halo Wars Will Do to the Console RTS Genre What Halo Did to the Console FPS Genre

Ensemble: Halo Wars Will Do to the Console RTS Genre What Halo Did to the Console FPS Genre
Written Monday, November 17, 2008 by Dan Webb

Speaking to a packed crowd of journalists last week in London, Associate Producer, Bill Jackson told onlookers that Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre.

Big and brave words from the Dallas studio there and to further elaborate on the point, Lead Designer, Graeme Devine told x360a that the confident statement boiled down to the studios' unfettering confidence in their control system.

He said, in an interview to be published shortly, that they "spent the first year and a half of the project just working on the controls and we took Age of Mythology and looked at just making a joystick control work with that game.".

"You can imagine balance testers at Ensemble studios; some of the best RTS players in the world. Having them say at some point that Age of Mythology was more playable for them with the controller than it was with the mouse and keyboard; when we got them convinced that was possible, we felt we had controls that worked."

Check back later for the full unedited interview.



User Comments
Comment #1 by panicky
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:32:20 PM

Let's see if it'll live up to the hype when it's released then.

Comment #2 by JJBDude
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:33:15 PM

That's good news, although I've never had a problem with controls on RTS games. I am intreagued to see the difference though.

Comment #3 by l.maciver
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:34:51 PM

good. rts never sit well on consoles, but this might be the closest to being perfect.

Comment #4 by L337erPan
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:36:05 PM

"Jackson told onlookers that Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre."

I find it hard to believe. Thats a load of BS

Comment #5 by Reclaiming Dawn
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:36:30 PM

good to hear!

Comment #6 by Smugu
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:41:25 PM

I doubt it

Comment #7 by nateredish
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:42:08 PM

@4, why are there so many pesamistic gamers in the world, if you like playing games, and i assume anybody on this site does, what is the purpose of hating on everything that comes out before it even comes out. i understand that a lot of games get hyped up and fall way short, but so what. if it sucks then the game and the sales will suffer. no point bitchhing and moaning about it. i mean does your life suck so bad that you really need to beat up on everything else (especially something you supposedly like) to feel better about yourself

Comment #8 by ROA5T BeeF
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:43:27 PM

I still have yet to play a console RTS. I always ignore them. They seem too complicated for the way I like to play my videogames. My friened got EndWar though and loves it. Maybe ill finally play an RTS with Halo Wars...

Comment #9 by N00B EATA
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 01:48:49 PM

@#8
Well, endwar doesn't really use the controller. All you have to do is say what you want and your units will do it for you. Not really complicated..

Comment #10 by Zacxx201
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:04:46 PM

RTS for halo? Blastfamy!

Comment #11 by Pedro7_2000
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:16:11 PM

If this is true...you're talking about an impact for RTS's on the level of Starcraft!

Comment #12 by Zmoke
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:17:29 PM

Interesting. Well this means that the game won't be bad for sure! I might buy this one.

Comment #13 by Pantera Opeth
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:19:16 PM

"Jackson told onlookers that Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre."

Fill it with children.


Comment #14 by SP4RT4N360
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:23:22 PM

Comment #13 by Pantera Opeth
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:19:16 PM

"Jackson told onlookers that Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre."

Fill it with children.

Worse pre pubescent screaming annoying tedious little sh*t children (shudders) oh the horror of that thought!!

Comment #15 by Kyanite
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:26:52 PM

@ #10

I hope that spelling error was intentional. If not, you should be slapped.

Anyway, I am excited about Halo Wars! This will be the first RTS I've played since Star Wars: Empire at War and Homeworld 2.

Comment #16 by NJ All Day
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 02:52:09 PM

@#10
"Blasphemy"

I really hope this game stands up to its big brothers. I hope for the best and have a feeling this will be a success.

Comment #17 by LiesandPies
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 03:37:07 PM

Ensemble is one of the best developers on the planet and I'm confident that Halo Wars will more then deliver.

Comment #18 by mrhobo
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:09:49 PM

Ensemble, too me, is in the top two RTS developers (cant decide between Ensemble and Blizzard) Can not wait for halo wars!

And for those blasting console RTS controls, go take a gander (yes I said gander) at Command and Conquer 3: Kanes Wrath. That too me at least already revolutionized RTS on the console (not Tiberium Wars, Kanes Wrath is totally different)

If it's true that people who played Age of Mythology (my second favorite RTS game) now prefer the console controls over PC, one more reason i cant wait

Comment #19 by Louchavelli
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:26:29 PM

I'm excited about this title, not because of its Halo franchise, but because it seems a lot of effort is going into this.

I'm avid strategy gamer (anyone remember Masters of Magic?) and tend to play most of my strategy games on the pc. I've yet to find a strategy game that played well on a console. LOTR BFME 2 was pretty nice, but left me wanting some more.

I'm hoping they get it right.

Also, I remember Age of Mythology and while I thought it was great, I felt it paled in comparison to Star Wars Galactic Battleground.


Comment #20 by Danteveli
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:36:50 PM

Halo made fpp casual friendly and spawned games with self regenerating health. Also it spawned funnies evil creatures in games. What can they do eith RTS?

Comment #21 by rsxdelerium
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:45:04 PM

will probably be crap, possibly not .. but definitely won't be "Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre."

Comment #22 by cincychaos
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:59:47 PM

that's a lot of hype to live up to. If they do pull it out, that will be awesome! I look forward to this game more and more!

Comment #23 by ThatCostsMoney
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 05:49:56 PM

didnt even look that good

Comment #24 by SebastianSB
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 06:38:12 PM

If this wasn't a Halo game there wouldn't be so many pricks wanting to to fail...Just wait for it to come out. Complain after you've actually PLAYED IT. It's being made by a damn good company. If you don't intend to play it, shut up and move on. Your opinion is meaningless here.

Comment #25 by L337erPan
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:06:54 PM

@#7 i'm not hate mongering on Halo Wars to make myself feel better. I love RTS' but i have never seen a console version to pull it off and i DONT think it can be done.

Whatever happened to being humble? If dick head producer man is going to tell me that this game will REVOLUTIONIZE console RTS gaming before its even been released. Then dare i say, i can tell him it won't. we will see who is right.

To me its all a bunch of Public Relations Steam. We see it ALL the time.

Comment #26 by GruffleGrinder
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:19:03 PM

I dont recall Halo 1,2 or 3 revolutionising the FPS genre!! they were all boring, stale and generic!!

Bungie y dont u make a good game and people who actually know about games will like it, cumon FHM as a Quote on the back of Halo 3 are u kidding me!

Bungie stop kissing ur own arse and make a great game that lasts more than a few hours with a storyline that actually makes people care instead of winging it!

Then people who actually play a variety of games will kiss ur arse 4 u, insted of 12 year old kids who dont know any better, or people who can only play Halo 3 or CoD 4-5.

P.S. Gears 2.... OMG... Gears 2... OMG... Doms and his wife scene, eat ur heart out hollywood! best scene EVER!

Comment #27 by L337erPan
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:19:17 PM

@24 , well maybe they shouldn't have called it Halo Wars.
It kinda comes with the territory if your going to spin off a FPS game into an RTS. They could have made a new franchise- not halo related. Of course that wouldn't make as much money would it? So when's the Halo racing game coming out?

Comment #28 by Poisonheadcrab
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:24:02 PM

#10. Your statement is true, especially since Starcraft II is slated to be coming out roughly the same time.

This is Ensemble Studios last game (at least in their current form). Hopefully they have had enough time for their statement to be true, so they can go out like Johnson...with a bang.

Comment #29 by GruffleGrinder
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:38:56 PM

Comment #20 by Danteveli

Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 04:36:50 PM

Halo made fpp casual friendly and spawned games with self regenerating health. Also it spawned funnies evil creatures in games. What can they do eith RTS?

#20 Halo made FPS boring... regenerating health! please! ill take a good old Health Pack anyday! funny evil creatures?? havent played much have u son.

Comment #30 by StarmanX22
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 07:52:20 PM

"Halo Wars will do to the console RTS genre, exactly what Halo did to the console FPS genre."

what? make it suck?

Comment #31 by Northern Light
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 08:04:02 PM

30, jz i lffd hrd. :p

I have to agree though, I think all this bashing is unnecessary. We REALLY should wait for the game to come out and THEN make a judgment. I'm not trying to be justice man, nor am I trying to come off as it be but there's a lot of valid points pertaining to the people ripping on it. It's just kind of unfair.

Comment #32 by Maverick Zero
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 09:16:48 PM

I enjoy RTS, but I won't pick this up just because they slapped Halo on it...

in fact I won't be getting it because of that very reason. This game will NOT revolutionize anything. Halo isn't even the best FPS to begin with.

Comment #33 by Spandex Stiffy
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 09:29:17 PM

Halo is a great game and deserves a spin-off. Get yourself a box of tissues and some vagisil and deal with it.

Comment #34 by iamtehwin
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 10:29:35 PM

lol
What did halo do? Nothing new that I saw. Halo sucks, this game will suck, nothing bungie ever made has been worth a shit but every doofus buys it.

Comment #35 by Falcongale
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 10:52:14 PM

Halo did NOTHING for console FPS's.

Look to Call of Duty for something that was revolutionary to console shooters. Precision aiming etc etc.

Comment #36 by TyrantJester
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 11:11:58 PM

I couldn't be less excited for this game.

Comment #37 by icky2049
Monday, November 17, 2008 @ 11:19:01 PM

if its as good as the Star Craft for N64 then ill get it,

Comment #38 by Fafner
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 01:33:53 AM

lol somehow i dont think so. i mean it's gonna be hard competing with endwar which is imo the best RTS ever made, actually tacks tactic's. unlike most RTS's which is basicaly whoever builds the most wins.

Comment #39 by Bluntedfish
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 03:31:30 AM

Crazy fool, no RTS will be fun on console!

Comment #40 by garbfink
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 03:48:59 AM

Good to hear but I shall remain sceptical, I fail to see how a controller could be better than a mouse and keyboard when it comes to RTS Games.

I'll get the game and see but I'm not oging to hold my breath

Comment #41 by Danteveli
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 05:27:24 AM

#29 Boy Say what you want buts thruth is out there.
Halo was is and will be whack. Maybe your first console was xbox/360 cuz fpp was better before. ANd say the enemies look serious. They all wishy washy like from children anime.

Comment #42 by radar616
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 07:28:57 AM

@39
RTS's are fun on consoles. Maybe if you play them rather than hating on them. I've bought Tib Wars, Kanes Wrath and Red Alert 3 and i love playing them.

Comment #43 by Kazoturkey
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 08:03:01 AM

By "do to RTS what Halo did to FPS" do they mean open the wonderful world of gaming up to idiot frat boys? Damn.

Comment #44 by knockton55
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 09:52:53 AM

RTS's arent supposed to be on a damn console, it'll never do what Halo did for FPS's. End of conversation

Comment #45 by Impact Andy
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 @ 11:03:54 AM

Highly doubt I'll get Halo Wars. RTS games really aren't my type, although I do really, really like Halo.


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