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Treyarch Upset Infinity Ward Over World at War Promotion

Treyarch Upset Infinity Ward Over World at War Promotion
Written Saturday, November 08, 2008 by Dan Webb

You know what ... I love it when developers are truly honest about their feelings; there's just something really refreshing about it and there's nothing better to wake up to on a Saturday morning than to read a rant by said developer to accompany my morning brew.

The article in question is a blog post, written by Infinity Ward's Community Manager, Robert Bowling and is a direct response to World at War's Senior Producer, Noah Heller and his promotion of their game.

In it, Bowling says "Seriously man…. You’re killing me! If I see one more Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare google alert come through my inbox, that ends up being a COD:WaW article that is only showing up because YOU referenced Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare more times than you mention World At War…. Especially when you’re pulling shit out of your ass. Come on man, interview about your game. Not OURS!"

Bowling continues to school Heller on his PR skills and says, "A rule of thumb I like to use is…. when promoting your game. Promote YOUR game. Don’t compare it to another game, or reference what OTHER games did in the past, pitch YOUR game."

In closing the rant, Bowling calls Heller, and I quote, "Senior Super Douche" and pleads with the gaming press to "please stop interviewing this guy" and "talk to someone who actually works on the Dev Team at Treyarch and knows what the fuck they’re talking about."

See what I mean? Refreshing!

Whilst we're on the subject of Heller talking "bullshit" as well, I have a tiny feeling his old, "we've got the best shooter this Christmas" statement might come back and bite him in the ass. 

Credit to you Bowling, more power to you. Fight the good fight sir!

I encourage you to read the entire blog post here.



User Comments
Comment #1 by Vince
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 03:58:07 AM

wow he really blasted that guy haha

Comment #2 by B1indSide
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:00:48 AM

Awesome

Comment #3 by kantizuni
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:03:13 AM

....wow.

Comment #4 by Briggy666
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:19:48 AM

lol nce but still cod waw is still gonna be a great game

Comment #5 by Edable Giraffe
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:19:54 AM

It's because Treyarch know they can't make a good game so they're hoping to ride off the back of CoD4.

I don't think it's working... :P

Comment #6 by LSmith92
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:19:55 AM

lololol

Comment #7 by ApochWeiss
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:20:27 AM

Senior Super Dousche is now officially a part of my every day vocabulary, granted it's more of a cumulation of words then one standalone word, but it's worth it. I know a couple people who need to be called that next time I see them...

Comment #8 by GruffleGrinder
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:54:51 AM

LMFAO!!!! clearly Robert Bowling feels the way i do about this game, just trying to copy and beat CoD:4, not trying to make a great game that people can enjoy, clearly the extremely pants effort known as CoD:3 which is possible the WORST "game of the year" EVER! has left a nasty taste in the mouth of Senior Super Douche.

Comment #9 by radfolio
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:19:46 AM

man i think that is quite possibly the funniest thing i have ever read, it was all so adult until he drops senior super douche. i fuckin pissed myself. that was pure genius, i will use that everyday!

Comment #10 by JC
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:29:10 AM

RAWR!!

Comment #11 by naked rampage
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:34:12 AM

awesome.

Comment #12 by xxXI Dave IXxx
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:41:42 AM

Infinity ward is Senior Super Developer.

Comment #13 by bulletman
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:43:14 AM

Lol, well if they havent got "the best shooter this year"
they are going to get hammered...

I have to admit ive not been up long and that was a refreshing read!

Comment #14 by KISMO
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:57:20 AM

Thank f**k someone in the no coming out and saying what anyone with half a brain knows from hearing Cod4 referenced in every wow interview. They are praying they can sell another average shooter of the back Infinitys rep and last effort why cant they just take the cod's off tryach

Comment #15 by ViVaGordito4evr
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 06:05:31 AM

TREYARCH IS FUCKING GARBAGE AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment #16 by Krizzek
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 06:06:10 AM

I like it when people say what they think.

Honesty, f**k yeah!

Comment #17 by Parkerktm
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 06:06:46 AM

refreshing indeed

Comment #18 by radar616
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 06:09:37 AM

Ouch, burned.

Comment #19 by True Marvellous
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 06:53:54 AM

Owned

Comment #20 by xI DaR3DeViL Ix
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:17:03 AM

COD4 owns COD5 and IW will always own Treyarch.

Comment #21 by heatedGAZZMAN
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:30:15 AM

WOW! SOUNDS LIKE FUN...........

Comment #22 by mjc0961
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:30:46 AM

"Whilst we're on the subject of Heller talking "bullshit" as well, I have a tiny feeling his old, "we've got the best shooter this Christmas" statement might come back and bite him in the ass."

Erm, yeah. I instantly thought, "Yeah, I think Epic Games and Insomniac Games would like to have a word with you, Heller." without even needing to read the linked article.

Comment #23 by mjc0961
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:34:02 AM

Okay, now that I read the article, it's even funnier. Apparently Heller said "And the answer to that question was not to focus on the previous game, But to make our own game" when asked how they can follow COD4. What a tool.

Comment #24 by Kuzi22
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:47:12 AM

What a legend =)

Comment #25 by R_A_LEE20
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:48:35 AM

There's always been feud between IW and TA, all they ever do is argue over who makes the best COD game, although IW is by far the best, they came up with the best MP concept ever and TA has just copied it just to make fans happy.

When will Actiblizz finally realise that TA sucks at making games, after seeing the reviews of Spidey: WoS & James Bond, im not surprised if Actiblizz are already looking into finding other Dev to make there important francises.

COD 6 is going to awesome btw.

PS. I like how IW make even numbered COD games and TA makes the odd ones, sounds about right that.

Comment #26 by Bigboi90B
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:50:05 AM

Gosh that is adorable :D, seriously thought fuck Treyarch :|, COD 6 ftw

Comment #27 by Ninjamonkey6493
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:59:10 AM

Wow....thats just wow......

Comment #28 by StephenJ360
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:05:48 AM

Well, the 2 games are exactly the same...

Comment #29 by KINGvJAMES
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:13:45 AM

"Not Senior Super Douche Noah Heller from Activision".. That is just classic

WaW is going to suck ass.

Comment #30 by Hitchcock
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:40:57 AM

haha senior super douche

Comment #31 by blayde
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:58:25 AM

from what I've played of online beta I feel as if COD5 will be better because im actually enjoying COD5 unlike COD4...

Comment #32 by II KaotiK
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 09:16:55 AM

Yay. Good job everyone, for having cliched opinions. The ironic thing is, I doubt most of you have even played the CoD:WaW Beta, yet you still feel justified in making assumptions about it? Contradiction in terms. Mmkay.

~Bryce

Comment #33 by SSJ4 Link
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 09:26:36 AM

Good for him. :D

Comment #34 by Atarii
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 09:37:13 AM

While I love Robert Bowling's response to all this, I can't help but know there will be a backlash against him for it, And that's unfortunate because he is correct.

Comment #35 by Tim 13
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:05:49 AM

Number 8 said everything I've been thinking ever since I first booted up the WaW beta so many weeks ago. World at War is just a poor carbon copy of Modern Warfare, completely devoid of any originality. The man spoke his mind for what he felt, and that only makes me like Infinity Ward that much more.

Comment #36 by Almighty Tubsta
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:20:20 AM

Hah!

Comment #37 by BulletMagnet Uk
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:32:43 AM

@32

Ive played the multiplayer beta a fair bit (got my token on the second day) and have already stopped playing because Im bored with it, dont like it much, dislike ww2 genre games, and am sick of everyone glitching to the extent they are.

Ive played cod4 since release and still play pretty much every day (or at least every other day), and still love the game after all this time.

My opinion may fit that of everyone elses, but that doesnt make it wrong. Ive played long enough on both to form a solid opinion and it sucks. Theres a reason that the vast majority dislike TA, and that doesnt make that point of view cliched.

Comment #38 by Daze Of War
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:50:11 AM

I've played a little of the beta for COD5 and enjoyed it. It does have a lot of features that COD4 had but why not use something that was good and make it even better. I like using WWII weapons more than some of the new ones in COD4. Plus it has 4 player co-op for the campaign. I wonder how many of you that said COD5 sucks or will suck will still buy it and play the crap out of it.

Comment #39 by vgjunkie
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:55:20 AM

Go Bowling! Way to kick some ass!

Comment #40 by N00B EATA
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 11:17:51 AM

SENIOR SUPER DOUCHE!!!

Comment #41 by Assass1n08
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 11:19:00 AM

lol

Comment #42 by theIncredible
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 11:32:38 AM

COD:WAW online is just Modern Combat with WW2 skins, from what I have heard about single player, they should of done the same thing. I mean why would they make your health continue to go down unless you shoot something? I guess they were hoping to call it CoD:Lost Planet.

Comment #43 by AgentOrange666
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 12:18:48 PM

Awesome...awesome to the max.

Comment #44 by callofdutyachievements
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 12:25:43 PM

POTTY TALKING! GO SIT ON THE CHAIR FOR 30 MINUTES!
lol

Comment #45 by x Quikbaud x
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 12:36:12 PM

i will give a little credit to TA as i like some of the new stats kept for MP. But over the game is pretty much COD4 in a different time period. i like that COD5 keeps track of your nemesis and a few things but for the most part not that impressed. Co-op will be a nice addition but COD5 can't touch COD4.

I just hope they had PISTOL challenges to COD6 as i've been rocking pistols a lot lately on COD4 and it's fun as shit.

Comment #46 by harvinator2000
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 02:05:03 PM

Cod 5 is great,its really hard on veteran.Cod 4 was for noobs.Way to easy.

Comment #47 by S3R0
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 02:36:10 PM

"..Especially when you’re pulling shit out of your ass."

That got me lol

Comment #48 by Health Food
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 02:47:54 PM

Way to go IW. woot
The only thing that that COD5 has over COD4 imo is co-op but otherwise COD4 owns and will still own. It will be like Super Mario for the 360, a legend forever. lol

Comment #49 by ArmyOfPie
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 02:53:24 PM

Aha wow that's pretty brutal.

Comment #50 by Masta Mylez
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 03:50:13 PM

WaW is going to be a way better online shooter then GoW2. What is really wrong with Treaych, they make one mediocre game and people think they can't redeem themselves. CoD.WaW will be the best shooter this Christmas, at least better then GoW2. Especially the online play

Comment #51 by KING CRUZ 777
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 03:56:33 PM

niice

Comment #52 by Frozenghost001
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:28:21 PM

Activision is just sad because WaW is 100x better...

Comment #53 by IceWarm
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:44:13 PM

Way to "bite the hand that feeds" Treyarch considering IW made the engine and that you totally just copied the CoD4 MP for WaW. We all know that this game wouldn't be shit if it wasn't for the CoD4 engine.

Comment #54 by she haunts me
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:52:28 PM

PWNED

Comment #55 by Lordvader178
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 04:59:15 PM

Wow, Bowling is fucking awesome.

Comment #56 by NumberUno
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:18:19 PM

True enough COD WaW is gonna be the best shooter this holiday season :p I for one and giving money to Treyarch, The game might use the same engine, but it made the perk so much more balanced, no more 2 second explosion with martyrdom, you actually have a chance to run away now, and the weapons are awesome, who knew that the Desert Eagle could be out done by the .357 Magnum, the sweetest side arm EVER!

Comment #57 by Keano
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 05:21:52 PM

I don't get why people who love COD4 are saying COD:WaW is shit etc. They're practically the same game. everyone is just jumping on the we hate Treyarch band-wagon.

If Treyarch made the best game in the world loads of people would still hate it just because they made it

Comment #58 by Ingles55
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:35:26 PM

@4 - Yes, because they copied everything from Infinity Ward as far as gameplay, ranking system, everything except the theme of the game. Another World War game, big effin' whoop!!

Infinity Ward FTW!!

Comment #59 by manicpunk111
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 07:37:24 PM

I hated CoD 3 but I played it through once and then again on veteran. If Treyarch can do that and have fun mp then woop woop to them. They earned my money.

Comment #60 by kovenant
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:36:26 PM

eh. i care not who compains about who and i DOUBLY dont care about all these people bashing cod:waw with the game not even being OUT yet.

all i care about is that after playing the HELL out of beta, i dont think ill ever be going back to modern warfare myself. i cant wait for tuesday.

dont like the new one? dont buy it. im GLAD the multiplayer is copied from modern warfare. if it was different, all you same people would be compaining that they changed what you love so much.


this isnt supposed to be a IW vs TREYARCH contest. even if it was, they BOTH got my $ so job well done.

Comment #61 by XxGodOfRock15xX
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 08:54:31 PM

cod4 and cod:waw are pretty much the same game so obviously they were going to compare each other stop whining IW

Comment #62 by demolition5
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 09:19:37 PM

Quote Evo Stephens #28: "Well, the 2 games are exactly the same..." Then y are half the posts b*tchin bout how its going to suk and how cod 4 is amazing (i got 1000/1000 gs so dont ask if i nvr played cod4)... kinda getting a mixed signal here.... Maybe Treyarch is asking each of us - Would u want the fun that you had in cod4 or do u want a totaly different experience - and all of u are giving in and saying Yes and No....... give them a break.... dont judge games b4 release or b/c of the company it is made by, play them for yourselves (and ima talking bout full games, not beta's =P) and if u like it then cool, i didnt like far cry 2, but everyone gave it a 9/10 so theres an example. Try it urself b4 u start mixing in with the crowd.

Ps.: it might not top GoW2, but those games ar

Comment #63 by gog
Saturday, November 08, 2008 @ 10:19:37 PM

i still think cod waw is just a fad compared to cod 4 - its just cod 4 with different skins - which could be just a dl content for multi player - the game play isnt bad - but its just a cod 4 rip off in more ways then being anything close to original

Comment #64 by ZoopSoul
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 12:10:37 AM

Wow, I hope Treyarch tanks their next project. Somebody needs to tell that guy to chill out and stop being such a child. I don't like either COD series, so this is from a complete outsider: Mr. Bowling needs to grow up and stop hurting his own interests. The public sees the NAME of the series, not who develops it.

Comment #65 by StarmanX22
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 12:27:49 AM

@ #15 - agreed..

thank you robert..

Comment #66 by simonromano2007
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 12:50:22 AM

from what i played from the beta, it just feel like some guns are too powerful and other to little. still good game, not great but still godd maybe ill buy it when it is less than $60

Comment #67 by Zee
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 03:19:47 AM

Anyone find it funny that of course CALL OF DUTY 4 will Google alert and article about CALL OF DUTY waw? I mean for god sakes its the same name. It's a ligament point to discuss a game to its predecessor, to show whats new or how they fixed things.

It really just sounds like the guy is upset that IW didn't own the rights to the COD name.

Anyway to everyone complaining about COD5 being like COD4 Guess what, COD1 COD2 COD3 COD4 and COD5 are the same game. They all play the same, they all have the same goals, everything. Don't believe me?

How many times did you have to plant c4 in each game? Or Destroy a tank with some type of rocket launcher. Or look in a whole bunch of houses to find an objective? There all basically the same game.

Comment #68 by Mirksta
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 06:03:53 AM

Reading peoples comments about "TREYARCH SUCKS IW RULEZZZZZ" really makes me angry. Can any of you truly justify that? CoD3 was poor in a lot of peoples opinions, but there are people who thought 3 was better than 4. I can gaurantee the majority of people who say 5 sucks even after playing the beta just got the crap kicked out of them. Most of them will get 5 anyway. I very much remember every saying "4 sucks!! COD is WWII, so COD4 SUCKSSSSS!!". Yet after xmas and every1s mummy buys them it, it becomes the most popular game out. Hmm.

Comment #69 by Bajan Elite
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 10:46:46 AM

@#68. My thoughts exactly, anwyay CoD 5 is much like CoD 4 but its still quite fun and the game isn't just a multiplayer game, it has a campaign that can be played with up to 3 other players, and competitive version of that and a zombie mode. Those modes aren't new to other shooter but they are still gonna be fun and add more to the game by giving more to play than just multiplayer. Also I'm pretty sure Activision gave the CoD 4 gaming engine to Treyarch so they have no choice but to use, also it works so why change it completely, the only problem for me is that sprinting is still a pain.

Also stop saying certain developers suck because no matter how many times u do, it will never become actual fact since everyone has their own opinion, look at Bungie and Epic, many love them and many d

Comment #70 by Mess98
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 11:18:13 AM

Wow. What an ass.

Comment #71 by Strongbad107
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 01:10:21 PM

He deserves it, the only thing that's good about CoD WaW is that it has much more color to it than CoD 4.

Comment #72 by SaleenS57
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 01:17:58 PM

wow

Comment #73 by ddpacker
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 02:51:39 PM

I'm sorry...
CoD4 = Good
Cod-WaW = Epic Fail

The only way codwaw is better is that it slightly ends the bitchiness... BUT then they added tanks so... fuck it.

Comment #74 by JUGGLEZ
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 04:52:08 PM

anyone play the demo for WaW? Ummm its aWful they have to do something to try and sell lol. Dogs that die in 3 shots? weak Artillery. Awful graphics....Call of Duty 3 repackaged....Seriously how many times can i play a game about WW2? that whole thing has been stretched to its limit.....Like packer said......FAIL.....MISERABLY

Comment #75 by Qwickkiller
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 04:52:41 PM

THERE BOTH THE SAME CANT ANY ONE SEE THAT

Comment #76 by Keano
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 05:34:09 PM

@#74 You're a douche

Comment #77 by demolition5
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 06:58:58 PM

THANK YOU #76,now im talking to only 74..

How dare u say it has bad graphics w/o justifications.... infact i dont c u making a game xD.. 1. compare the game to something else, im guessing u compared it 2 cod4... both have clear textures if u even looked... and i bet ur tv just sux so u think cod4 look better.
2. WW2 = no helicopters... wut do u want killer bunnies to attack u
3. some ppl i met say that cod3 was better than cod4, but the rest that didnt say it just nvr played cod3!

Comment #78 by CoffeeBeans
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 07:34:25 PM

Too bad WaW has unbalanced weapons, useless perks, an extremely gay spawning system, and artillery that stuns your own teamates. Also everything feels so robotic compared to the smooth feeling of CoD4. I'm only gonna get it to kill some time, not because I expect anything awesome.

Comment #79 by badgerodoom
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 10:10:19 PM

when all is said and done, infinity ward prevails over the fags at treyarch ruining their series

Comment #80 by an7man
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 10:25:10 PM

Thats too funny you think that they would be helping each other not trying to bash on which is a better game.

Im quite happy with COD 4 but Gears 2 is going to keep me busy for a long time.

Comment #81 by secretkaos187
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 11:25:37 PM

It Looks "pretty" But come on another F***ing WW2 Game. Do Vietnam. I think vietnam has enogh gritty stuff to make those WTF moments!That Dude burned him!

Comment #82 by Fafner
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 11:31:25 PM

ive lost most faith in WaW, seeing as they wont fix the problems, e.g hip accuracy is too high even without steady aim, and that the bolt actions are under powered. i still plan on getting it, but i wont be playing it as much as i play COD4 which is sad really as i was always defending Treyarch before :/

Comment #83 by Fafner
Sunday, November 09, 2008 @ 11:34:24 PM

on another note, they'll never do Vietnam in a COD game ever, because one the US lost(it wasent a draw) and 2 COD only does wars that mutiple countries fought in. i'd like to see a korean war COD game.

Comment #84 by II KaotiK
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 12:28:13 AM

Okay. Firstly, you all complain that CoD:WaW is going to be "fail", because it's WWII, and nothing like Modern Warfare. So, they take the MP system, they take the engine, they take the physics. They produce the MP Beta, now your all complaining it's too much a rip off of CoD4:MW.

I am inclined to agree with a few people on here, there's some buggy things about CoD:WaW. Last Stand, seems to be way too accurate, I mean, I've been sniped across the map by a pistol? The spawning is a tad horrible... WAIT! It's a fucking Beta. The CoD4 Beta, was full of fucked up bugs and atrocious(sp?) gameplay. But look, it's one of THE BEST FPS, EVER.

You all bitch and rant, but I will garuntee most of you will buy CoD:WaW:

/kthxbai

Comment #85 by KIDDRAGON67
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 02:15:54 AM

fuck you treyarch you ca't make games you steal IW rep! fuck off and stop developing CoD games!

Comment #86 by Nutty Scouser
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 02:30:27 AM

ROLL ON COD 6

Comment #87 by SPRAYandPREYcom
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 03:33:34 AM

its called MOOCHING...

Comment #88 by Chimhog
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 03:53:13 AM

@ 78 - Artillery stuns your own team. I I think thats how it should be. You wouldnt be invunrable in RL to your own art.

Thats what made HC on COD4 so amazing. The team aspect and trying not to kill each other with your own grenades/bullets/rockets etc.

Comment #89 by NATAS1603
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 05:07:57 AM

COD5 AN COD4 BOTH GREAT COD6 EVEN BETTER

Comment #90 by Uncl Ad
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 07:28:40 AM

owned..

Comment #91 by weaponfx
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 07:38:37 AM

I played COD:5 at a prelaunch party on the weekend...
All I can say is "Treyarch...You've screwed up again!"
"we've got the best shooter this Christmas"... if by that you mean a game disc you actually shoot at, then yeah!
Basically this games feels like your playing on the COD4 platform, but with all the COD3 brokeness...
Bad bad Treyarch.... so very bad!

Comment #92 by Kagosin
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 09:11:58 AM

@84
"You all bitch and rant, but I will garuntee most of you will buy CoD:WaW:

/kthxbai"

Want to take up on that bet. Many of the people I played against the beta said it's virtually no different than CoD4, except done in WWII era with different weapons and maps. It's not like they even tried to come up with something completely new, and instead just piggybacked on IW's engine and made a few tweaks here and there.

And I can guarantee you, that some aren't. There's also going to be others that pick it up, and then return/trade it within a week of release.

Comment #93 by LeviXLush
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 09:17:44 AM

Everyone knows Infinity Ward has more talent. That blog was funny as hell. I'm getting World at War. It has it's bonuses. But I'll still play CoD4 for sure. I'm looking forward to the Nazi Zombie bonus play after beating campaign.

Comment #94 by DCS 23
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 10:03:06 AM

lol a super senior douche who doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about..! GREAT lmao..!

Comment #95 by CoffeeBeans
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 06:17:56 PM

@88, I'm talking about REGULAR. I wouldn't complain if I got stunned in hardcore but the fact that artillery stuns your teammates in a video game is ridicolous. Airstrike in cod4 had absolutely no effect on your teammates. Stop comparing to real life, and if treyarch is gonna attempt to make a game like cod4, then keep good things idk, the same.

Comment #96 by Cranbaby Sauce
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 08:47:06 AM

Left 4 Dead. Gears 2. Treyarch sucks and you people defending them just want to be different than everyone else. CoD3 sucked. Beta sucked. I defecate better products than this. Praise Jesus.

Comment #97 by ssj4goku539
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:24:15 AM

thats awsome lol

Comment #98 by SoulProphet85
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:38:02 PM

any CoD in my book is a great game. They provided me with a great experience. Sure, IW is better at making CoD games. Treyarch has other franchises that they need to take care of, such as Spider-Man, Quantum Of Solace and other games. This makes them less focused on their other projects. I think CoD 5 is a great game overall and will buy it for the 4 player coop right with Left 4 Dead.

Many games are fun just the way they are. You cannot compare them with one another and say it sucks, they are all different in style according to the developer. If all the games were the same, then there would be more boredom for all the gamers.

Comment #99 by Cranbaby Sauce
Thursday, November 13, 2008 @ 01:55:48 AM

You're right. A lot of games are fun the way they are. But not CoD5.

Comment #100 by Barrowland
Thursday, November 13, 2008 @ 05:07:14 PM

HAHAHAHA he basically teabagged him lol

Comment #101 by I Hayabusa I
Saturday, November 15, 2008 @ 02:57:42 AM

That is THE funniest thing ive read thats been said in all honesty....cod4 is so much better than waw. IW FTW!!!!

Comment #102 by xXDr_Doom43Xx
Saturday, December 20, 2008 @ 03:20:35 PM

Damn, nothing like speaking your mind.


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Game Info
Developed By:
Treyarch

Published By:
Activision Blizzard

Genre:
Shooter

Release Date:

US: November 11, 2008
Europe: November 14, 2008
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Downloadable content - achievements or no achievements - will you buy it with or without them?
If the content is good, or for a game I love, I'll buy it regardless of whether chievos are included
I'll still buy and play the downloadable content, but achievements would be nice.
Who the hell cares!?
No achievements, no sale ... and that goes for any game ... whether you're GTA or Halo!
Just stop with the DLC achievements full stop ... you're ruining my completion percentage dammit!


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