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Microsoft Exec Takes a Cheeky Swipe at Next Week's PlayStation 4 Reveal
Written Thursday, February 14, 2013 By Lee Bradley
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An executive at Microsoft has said that next week's PlayStation Meeting is “important for the games industry,” but won’t have much resonance with the wider buying public.

Taking place in New York on February 20th, the PlayStation Meeting is widely expected to see the announcement of the PlayStation 4. But for Jonathan Grimes, Microsoft UK's director of marketing, it won’t be enough to reach the mainstream.

"Whatever gets announced on February 20, the majority of UK consumers won't know," said Grimes. "Our job is not to get lost in the industry chatter, but to ensure that the consumers going into stores, going online, still experience Xbox. The announcement is important for the industry, but it is also important to remember who is buying right now."

Grimes' statement suggests that Microsoft is planning something a little more... grand for the Xbox 720 announcement.

In addition, the exec also reflected on the Xbox platform’s progress. "Ten years ago, to think we would be the leader in our second generation is a achievement," he said. "We have great people that have been with us a long time, and now it's about strengthening that team.

"But what has got us to where we are today is not going to be what gets us through the next ten years. Now we've also got to start from scratch when thinking about the future. Driving creativity, whether around marketing, retail or new business models, is key for us."

[via MCV]




 
 

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Comment #1 by Dirty130
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:55:26 AM
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You never know, maybe something about Final Fantasy Versus will be mentioned. Or not..


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Comment #2 by Wings of Regret
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:55:47 AM
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Xbox is "little more grand"... overall.


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Comment #3 by Infomouse
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:56:05 AM
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Here's a new business model Microsoft. Drop the forced Kinect support, and focus on your hardcore customers.


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Comment #4 by RDrules
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:56:27 AM
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It doesnt really matter, if it is revealed it will be all over the press within the hour so everyone will find out


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Comment #5 by Burnerz
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:58:15 AM
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Its a great media hub, paid online service with ads. >.< Getting more and more driven away from console gaming although for as long as achievements exist ill still be with it.


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Comment #6 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:05:47 AM
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I have been an Xbox fanboy for as long as I can remember, but when it comes down to it the Playstation 3 is so much better now. The cost of PSN+ gets you free games, ACTUAL discount on games and offers a lot more than Xbox Live is currently offering. People need to look neutrally when the new consoles come out, and see what Live and PSN are offering, cause as much as the fanboy inside you wants you to buy a certain console, you NEED to get your monies worth when it's so difficult to get nowadays.
Star


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Comment #7 by Steakslave
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:06:04 AM
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As someone who games on Xbox 95% of the time, I can tell you that the rumors alone of a mandatory LIVE connection, mandatory Kinect 2 functions & possibly no used games has me very curious as to what Sony has to reveal.


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Comment #8 by HoBBitzz
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:15:42 AM
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O man stop banging on about kinect and get out more. Nobody is forcing anybody to use kinect unless U buy a kinect only game. And nobody is forcing you to buy a kinect only game. The moaning is really getting old now. I've never used kinect in any off the kinect supported games, and I have kinect. If I fancie a dance ill go up a club or something, ms isn't forcing me to buy dance central now are they.


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Comment #9 by strawberry
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:18:34 AM
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@3 we all wish!


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Comment #10 by A 7thProduction
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:19:18 AM
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Here come all the complaints that the Xbox no longer caters to hardcore gamers.
Turn Xbox on - put in disc - wait for game to load. There. Hardcore gamers catered for.
Personally I cannot wait for the next Xbox reveal. All the news so far has me excited. Yes the Kinect parts too. I do enjoy taking out my Halo or Skyrim disc and playing a few kinect games with younger siblings or drunken friends.


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Comment #11 by Willz968
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:20:44 AM
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I think I'll wait a good while before jumping into the next-gen consoles. Although I didn't buy a 360 at launch, the whole RROD fiasco has made me rather cautious when it comes to launches - worth waiting a while with your money to make sure there isn't a high failure rate, and hopefully you'll save some money from buying it later. Not only that though but to get a better idea of what the two consoles offer - when I bought my 360 to me it was the better option, but at this point in the gen the PS3 feels the much better option (mainly due to PS+).
I'll most likely pick up both consoles in the long run, but for now I'll just play the waiting game


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Comment #12 by ICGMU12321
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:21:29 AM
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I'll most likely get both a PS4 and a 720, but what we learn when they are both announced is what's going to determine what console I choose as my main next gen. If Sony has a better overall console, online and off, I will probably pick up the PS4 first and use that as my main console.


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Comment #13 by Juggalo151
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:23:45 AM
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Microsoft is the devil we all know this pretty soon we will have to be connected via I.V. and our wallets will have to be weighed on a scale attachment so xbox knows how much money we have.... but last i checked nobody is forcing anyone to buy the next console. if you dont like the features of the system then dont buy it, im sure you can think of plenty other things to spend your kinkos paycheck on


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Comment #14 by Dragonlightning
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:24:16 AM
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The Sony press event has me curious too. They aren't going to reveal anything too big as then they would miss the chance to compete at E3. I think the best thing Sony can do is just outline the new online service skipping most of the detail, confirm or deny a couple of rumors (used games, new eyetoy, touch screen controller, etc) and show some teasers of first part games.

At the end of the day all people care about is what exclusives do they have, how is the console different, and how do you control it.


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Comment #15 by Septic
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:26:28 AM
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All the playstation guys will be pumped up. I know I will be when they release the new xbox as long there are improvements in the graphics power of the console and faster hard drive.


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Comment #16 by InKtOiD
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:27:27 AM
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@6 But when you stop paying for your renting discounts, they go away. My 173 Arcade games are forever.


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Comment #17 by _Nosferatu_
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:28:30 AM
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If the rumours about no backwards compatibility and blocked used games are true, I won't be getting a next-gen console AT ALL. I'll just stick to my 360 and buy some new parts for my PC when necessary...


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Comment #18 by Terrin
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:33:56 AM
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its funny how most people are taking rumour's as truth about the new xbox so I also heard the newest xbox will have a robot that comes out and makes you snacks plus hot coco.

But as a few said I am curious to what the ps4 announcement will show I mean regardless if I want to buy it or not its great for the industry as that will push Microsoft to make sure they are doing there best not just for the casual but also for the gamers (as we have heard of blacktusk making 4 next gen exclusive titles) 343 is sopposdly working on a halo 2 remake on the halo 4 engine a new pgr game from a team made of original pgr people and burnout guys so so far the news of gamers is pretty good.


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Comment #19 by GOWnage
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:41:57 AM
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I read this article on the PS3T site first. Here are some of the comments from there:
"Too bad for him people might know about Xbox, but don't care for it."
"It IS an accomplishment, especially considering the atrocious failure rate of the Xbox"
"Xbox sucks. Period."
"You know why the Xbox is outselling the PS3, price and piracy, plain and simple. In this economy those things will always win, we'll done Microsoft for making yourselves a laughing stock with real gamers."

I don't know why PS3 gamers are so... aggressive lol


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Comment #20 by Dasha UK
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:42:41 AM
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Im actually kinda looking forward to it


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Comment #21 by Vindicator51
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:44:20 AM
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Microsoft went downhill ever since the Kinect. Sure, it has sold millions, but the quality of the company have dropped drastically.


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Comment #22 by Iconoclast Envy
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:51:42 AM
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I agree with @6 100%
Right now, PSN+ makes XBLG look like charity group.


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Comment #23 by Annalie
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:52:55 AM
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@19 they're a bunch of whiny cunts. cant stand the sister site. they talk all of that shit yet beg for all of the perks that the xbox has.


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Comment #24 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:52:58 AM
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@16 Just out of curiosity, why would you stop paying for it when you're aware of the benefits. Would you not rather pay for PSN+ than for Live? I'm pretty sure the incentives to put the money to PS+ are a lot more of value than your Xbox Live membership. Not completely aware of how it all works because I don't own a PS3, but I stopped paying for live long ago when I could no longer justify my purchase. I'm 100% sure I could justify buying PSN+ though.


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Comment #25 by The BiggD
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:55:12 AM
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@19, because they feel the need to prove their better as gamers. Just like PC gamers do over console gamers.

Truth is, we're all gamers and console/system should make one gamer better than another.

I'm sure both the new Box and the new Playstation will be great, despite all these awful rumors. I just don't know which one I'm going to get...


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Comment #26 by Yo menus1
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 07:59:30 AM
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I love the Xbox. But i won't let my love for the xbox have anything to do with my decision about buying the PS4 or the Xbox 720.
If Sony impresses me more than Microsoft, i will gladly toss away my GS. Microsoft has started to fill the 360 with so much shit that i as a gamer don't need... And if they are going to make the 720 ``An entertainment system that every household is going to need`` and focus less on the gamesystem then actually makeing a fucking game console, I will abandon the Xbox ship.


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Comment #27 by s.butler1
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:09:41 AM
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It's funny looking at the differing comments this article has been getting on your two websites.


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Comment #28 by marzipanninja
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:13:50 AM
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@24 I constantly see folk banging on about PSN+ just out of interest do you think Sony will still be doing it nextgen? And what benefit would it be to someone like myself who has played 450+ games to date? Final question does installing it after downloading take the same time it takes to install off the disc?

Haven't used my ps3 when it took over an hour to install MoH Airbourne 4 years ago. Also do they have cross game party chat on the ps3 yet?

Serious questions.


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Comment #29 by Steakslave
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:14:47 AM
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@8 Did you not hear the rumor that the next system might come with a Kinect that you HAVE TO use for the whole thing to even work? I don't want to talk to or wave at my Xbox. So if the rumor turns out to be true then yes, they ARE forcing it. Time will tell.


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Comment #30 by Akuza
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:28:17 AM
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Cool.

Nice to see Microsoft are taking us in the uk into concideration when doing stuff...


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Comment #31 by Elite49
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:36:58 AM
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Still waiting for the day they announce a console and the release is within the next few months. Then they reveal every game that has been cancelled or delayed in the past few years was done do for release day. Aka Battlefront 3 is a release day game. Star wars fans go nuts. Sells like hot cakes.


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Comment #32 by Creasy47
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:40:43 AM
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I'm still clueless as to what to do. I have a massive backlog of games that I have to play still, but I know if I don't switch to a new console come release dates, I'll end up regretting it as they become sold out. But, I also fear I'll end up being one of many who gets caught in a RROD situation. As for my current games, I don't want to spend all my time playing them, just to make a switch to the new console and not get to have anything carry over. I suppose decision-making will be easier come the Fall when I can really debate and decide.


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Comment #33 by ADTR TOM
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:48:35 AM
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Hopefully we will with have several new exclusives with the Xbox's release, getting bored of Halo sequels and spin-offs


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Comment #34 by Russman
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:48:54 AM
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@3 I completely agree. If they did that I would consider not getting the PS4.


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Comment #35 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 08:58:03 AM
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@28 I genuinely don't know. I haven't ever used the service, nor do I own a PS3. I can only assume that they would continue it though, simply because when it comes down to it the service is working. As for the games front, whether you've played a game or not, can you complain at getting it again for free? Plus there'd be discounts on a game that you've never played, at some point anyway. I'm not 100% on most things about it, but from an outsides perspective and a neutral point of view, compare the two services and draw your own results. I mean, how many free games do you get from Xbox Live? I have always defended Microsoft against the RROD, advertisements and Kinect, but it's hard to defend them when there seems to be a better service elsewhere. I probably would have bought a PS3 if the PS4 announcement wasn't around the corner.


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Comment #36 by Neohawk
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:05:28 AM
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As long as they plaster the £40 per year service in ads and offer little to no incentive to keep gold (maybe they might actually increase it some and offer fuck all more), i'll be happy. Hopefully they can also entice some more little shits to play mature rated games and ruin everything too, that would be nice.

Hopefully developers learn from this generation too and charge £50 for each half game and another £50 for the rest of it.

The future is bright. As long as you're rich, an idiot and a complete cunt.


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Comment #38 by lighthouse777
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:40:19 AM
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i have both systems
and i pay for live and ps plus
plus does give you free games, but only as long as you have plus
and i do not bother to chat on games with ps3... for me does not work

now with live i can cross chat with other gamers
and thats more than a bonus for me
since i can get live for $40 bucks or less.. i watch for discounts
its a non issue to have it.. whats 3 bucks a month?
two sodas?


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Comment #39 by lighthouse777
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:45:03 AM
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and one more thing
since sony is supposely announcing ps4 next week
i have heard a ton of rumors about the next box... all negative
gives one food for thought

for what they say about xbox is also the same for the ps4
always online.. no used games.. not backwards comp etc

same for BOTH systems

may be better just to wait and see what the actual truth is
before you make up your minds


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Comment #40 by the action frampton
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:46:16 AM
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@24 what he was saying is that in 1,2,3, hell even 20 years down the line he'll still be able to turn on his 360 and play his games. As soon as you stop paying for PS+ it all goes away. I suppose everyone is different, but I only see PS+ as a glorified rental service and don't know what all the fuss is about.


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Comment #41 by Zero fox fk
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 10:37:43 AM
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Instead of forced Kinect, I'd like to see it dropped in favour of integrated Oculus Rift ;)


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Comment #42 by timewarp
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 10:40:45 AM
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@19,23,25

I'm from the sister site and I just wanted to point out we're not all like that, ok there's a fair few who feel they have to make the obnoxious "PS3 is better then 360 comments" but that's not the entire PS3Trophies community. To be honest I'm actually surprised by how calm you guys all are, I mean are you sure you don't have your own version of the psychotic asshole who just sprouts bullshit all the time?


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Comment #43 by Zoron
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 10:59:16 AM
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Im actually hoping some Vita games get announced next week.


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Comment #44 by PANIC ATTACK 10
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 11:01:24 AM
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well i think the future is with handhelds now. you can buy used. dont have to be conected to internet. no DRM BS, its portable, and just plain fun games. something consoles are now getting away from. the more i look at this industry. the more consoles are not for gaming. in fact, consoles have been multi media hubs for years. they are heading towards being a pc. which brings bigger proablems with hacking and such. i'm a 10 year vet on xbl. i'm done with this. i've moved into 3DS XL now. i'll keep my ps3 for blueray. i'm thinking of just keeping my current games for cbox too. when my xbox breaks, i'll sell off my games and stay with handhelds. nintendo has gotten very creative. so too have gaming developers. so for me, i'm not looking at next gen. which for MS is 2yrs away.


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Comment #45 by GR4V1G0R3
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 11:10:46 AM
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@42 we have plenty here....i was firmly with xbox until 18 months ago, when every service i use became better on PS3, with better value

now i spend most of my time trolling, mostly because of how MS treats its customers, and how we pay the same, and get much less than with sony

i've since grown sick of controllers for FPS games, and thought fuck it, i'm going back on my PC, sod both of them...both communities are full of assholes, but xbox is so much worse, and i just think why should i pay more for games, then have to pay to play online (xbox) get less support and have to wait for everything to pass retarded certification (again xbox)

i've got loads of games on my PS3, barely played any of them, but i've barely paid anything for them either (£80 worth of PSN vouchers, 60 to PS+ and a few games i wanted) if it wasn't for the fact that i've grown too used to the xbopx sticks, i would play more, but i now find the PS3 sticks to be "bandy" for want of a better term...so i just don't get along with them


OT
MS rep is full of shit, though in one way, whatever is said at that thing, it is irrelevent to the customers, we don't need to know the specs, whats the fucking point, the only people who need to know are game devs...quite why marketting execs are even allowed to speak is beyond me, surely they are irrelevent at this point in time, when they start spouting random crap, they just seem like bobby kotick...they should just fuck off and stick to what their jopb title says, marketting, sorting out advertisements etc, not releasing pointless statements or doing interviews

i won't buy either next gen console until they are fucking cheap, and have stopped breaking within 6 months...i've got my PC which will still look and probably run better than either of them anyway


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Comment #46 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 11:28:25 AM
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@40 You can't predict the future so you can't necessarily say that will be an option. What happens if they somehow find a way to suspend the service? You can never guarantee what will happen. It's a very valid point, and I agree, the idea is convincing. However, I just feel that you can't guarantee that will be a case, so it's difficult to call it a strength. Same goes with anything I suppose, only time will tell.


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Comment #47 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 11:31:18 AM
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Also, I'd say that the small niggle with PS+ (playing games as long as you're a member) could be something they address with the next step. Along with the updates and any other issues that people could pick out with the current gen. Ideally, Microsoft would do that too, but it has seemed very unlikely. Microsoft and Xbox has gone so downhill, where PS+ has just gone up. I'm staying neutral until we have more news anyway, just as things stand it's hard to say that Microsoft will be able to offer something worth paying a lot of money for.


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Comment #48 by Rafie
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 12:31:07 PM
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@Morris69 I respect your standpoint. You openly admitted that you're a fan of the 360, yet you see things objectively. That's more than what I can say for most of the folks here. I have all systems and I play them extensively. I see pros and cons to both PS3 and 360.

I have to admit that I'm surprised that I didn't see more of the "Xbox rules...and PS3 SUCKS" comments like it normally is. Kudos to the 360 community for that. More subtly I see. :-D

@45 Hell yeah the 360 has them. LOL The chill pill was taken today though. I commend that. The PS3 community has taken the aggressive side this time. It's understandable because a MS representative took a jab at Sony, the same would happen if it was Sony taking a jab at MS.


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Comment #49 by clone150
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 12:34:09 PM
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@19 Perhaps because there are people on the Xbox side who, in the past, have done the same thing to the PlayStation. I personally don't care for it (though I do like to joke around with it), but I already see people here calling PlayStation people "whiny cunts". So there are always angry people on both sides.


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Comment #50 by Nighthawk c4 v2
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 12:40:48 PM
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no kinect


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Comment #51 by XxMayhemxX
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 01:27:33 PM
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I used to be a Playstation fanboy 1 and 2... I played the original xbox at my buddys house. Didn't wow me in the least...

I thought the controller was overly huge
The system was louder then my truck
huge system... it took up so much space...
overheating issues..And i leave my game system on for 5 days in a row, every system ive owned has gotten that treatment, and some handle it better then others. The ones that can handle it are awesome..

I just though my buddies xbox was a joke of a system.. i really did.. no redeeming factors at all.. not sure why you all got one tbh.. Graphics were not all that much better...

Then next gen came.. i got a ps3..it was good, i loved it, it was and still is my main media player streaming from pc to tv, it has gotten better since but...
I bought a 360 2 years ago, and the achievement system blew me away.

It alone is the reason i traded in all my 3rd party ps3 games, repurchased them for 360.
The trophy system on ps3 is crap.. it takes forever to load em up to compare The acheivement system is smooth, fast, doesnt take 5 minutes to open, and is funner, and the trophys are so .. hmm bland.. and slow to load..

As of today i play all games on 360, except Sony 1st party games(GoW, Uncharted), oh and Demons Souls. As far as media.. ps3 beats 360... both either wired, or wireless, the ps3 streams faster with less lag and video load/buffer

Gaming 360
Video ps3

We'll see what these next systems have in store..

Sony better fix their trophies.. no lag when loading them or comparing them and less boring, they need to just copy the acheivment system seriously, or im sticking with M$Box.
PSPlus is growing more and more awesome.. subscribe? lots of free games

XBox needs to fix video buffer times and offer a few more freebies since we pay for play on that one. Achievements and backwards compatibility are musts.. or im out...


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Comment #52 by Fullbrook
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 03:15:28 PM
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@47 IS psn+ like xbox live? Where you have to pay to play online regardless? If that's the case getting free games while you are subscribed is pretty awesome bonus. I'd totally take the on xbox.

If it's free to play online, and that's all you are getting extra then that's sorta lame.

I bought a PS3 on boxing day, but I haven't played it yet. I loaded up RE6 and it sounded like it was wrecking the disk it was so loud.. so I have been a little turned off

I did look what free games where there at the time, and seemed even if I played a couple of them, it would cover the whole years cost.


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Comment #53 by morris69
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 03:58:57 PM
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@52 Playstation is free to play online, but for the same price as Live you get PROPER discounts on games, free to download games and they offer all sorts to the subscribers. I know Sleeping Dogs was free the other day, like I said I don't own the console, I just go by what I read, what my friend says and what I've looked up.

It's always going to be down to your judgement, I just know how I feel and which I see on the up.


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Comment #54 by The Kingslayer
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 04:25:24 PM
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Considering how most UK gamers have easy access to the internet they'll know about the PS4 right away.


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Comment #55 by dAFKave813
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 04:33:59 PM
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This more than likely will not be an announcement for the PS4 or next PS or whatever they are going to call it. It could be but more realistically the announcement will be on a price drop on the PS3 and the PS Vita.


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Comment #56 by ScottHarris
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 04:40:13 PM
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I don't get all this fanboy point scoring shite. Just play the damn thing and shut up, nobody gives a crap what console you think is better. They basically do the same thing anyway so there isn't really much to compare.


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Comment #57 by l.maciver
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 04:43:04 PM
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we here in uk wont know about the ps4 announcement? what you've done there is just announce it to us so now we know. good marketing.


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Comment #58 by mileko101
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 05:46:50 PM
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Doesnt bother me. I get every console any ways, just for exclusives. There is just some games that need to be collected. And playstation for me hits the spot for those JRPG


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Comment #59 by ROTTENCORPSE
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 05:57:25 PM
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"Playstation 3 is far better now" whoa, somebody sees the world in a whole differnet light. With the security issues, lag, dropped games of the PS Network, PS3 has actually gotten worse over the years. he Tfailed wii ripoff (move) was a total failure. There is a reason PS3 sales continue to decline, 99% of the games can be played on XBOX in true HD, while many of the same games on PS3 do NOT support 1080p. None of the games are real system sellers either. God of War, Gran Turismo, and Slycooper are not system movers. God of War was a great game but thats about it. Uncharted was good as well but an aquired taste. The Kinects success at 24 million+ units has also pushed the system further. Not all Kinect games are great but with titles like Dance Central, Zumba, Kinect sports, there are a lot of fun games that cater to the casual gamer. Not to mention all the great uses of XBOX live. Yes its $44.00 per year (Amazon.com) but knowing my information is safe, the never lag or dropped games, plus the tons of other services, XBOX rewards, and yes there are free games as well....XBOX maintains the total package.


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Comment #60 by Groshua
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 06:05:00 PM
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@6 Well said.


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Comment #61 by CelticWarriorDB
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:04:57 PM
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@40 That's pretty much what PS+ is, a glorified rental service. None of those 'free' games you get are free at all, they're only 'free' if you have a PS+ membership, which you have to pay for, which really doesn't make it free at all. PS+ also gives you discounts on stuff to, which you get to keep. That's cool, but once again, you have to have this membership to get these discounts. It's not like Sony is actually discounting their stuff to make it easier for the gamer, they're doing it to get more people to sign up for PS+. If Sony was doing these discounts regularly, then that would be a different story, but they aren't.

As for Kinect, I'm getting a little tired of hearing the complaning about it. First off, what is wrong with Microsoft trying to get the casual market to? What's wrong with more people actually getting on the 360, to play whatever they want? Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, once these kids get a little older, they'll move up to more hardcore games on the 360? Guess what, in order for that to happen, they have to be introduced to the 360, and the Kinect is a good way to do that.

As for as that MS needs to 'concetrate on the hardcore audience.' I hate to break it to you guys, but they already have the hardcore audience. They've already bought 360s, and already play hardcore games on the 360. They already have your attention, so they don't need to do that anymore. Not to mention, there's been plenty of hardcore games that have come out since the introduction of the kinect. Production on hardcore games never came to a halt.

Focusing on just one type of audience, and that one audience alone is not a good move. Look at what it has done with Nintendo right now. They focused on only one type of audience for so long, and now it's hurting them. I don't want to see the same thing happen to MS or even Sony. That's why focusing on ALL gamers to me, is a positive thing.


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Comment #62 by cheevo360
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 09:41:38 PM
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Microsoft always cheeky anyway and I knew they would do something to Sony. :P


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Comment #63 by xSavage Henry
Thursday, February 14, 2013 @ 10:41:46 PM
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You dont get to keep the games with ps+. I have no idea why people think its so good. I can buy any game on xbox live and keep it forever whether I have gold or not.


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Comment #64 by Alchemist Don
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 03:35:33 AM
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Well if the remours are true about there new gen console M$ will be losing a hell of alot of customers from the UK!


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Comment #65 by Jaws as Crowns
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 03:38:01 AM
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I hope they talk about some of their exclusives.


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Comment #66 by Play Up Pomp3y
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 04:15:04 AM
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Sorry? Did I miss something? I just looked it up, as I had never heard anything about it before. You pay £40 to Sony, and you get free games! These include ones I previously paid good money for such as Bulletstorm, Resi 5, Arkham City. I can't believe that XBL know this, yet still try and convince me to pay them £40 for the privilege of playing a game online. And that's it. My Gold is up next month, I will not be renewing it. And now I see that Sony actually try and give their customers something back, rather than fleece them dry I am definitely on the fence when it comes to the next-gen.


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Comment #67 by Rafie
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 06:48:53 AM
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@59 What free games?!?!? You certainly are a 360 fanboy if you can glorify one consoles success and completely disregard the competitions perks as well. To say that God Of War, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, etc aren't "system movers" (whatever that means) is further convincing that you aren't looking at things objectively at all. Down playing great games and trying to play it safe by saying "God Of War is a great game, but that's about it". Well then God Of War is great game. Don't take nothing from that. I see that you praised the Kinect when its also an "acquired tasted" as you put for Uncharted. I don't know why people like you always try to down play great titles just to praise your system of preference. I have all 3 consoles that I play extensively and there are certainly pros and cons to ALL of them.

Also to those saying the PS+ is a glorified rental service. I guess I can say the same thing about LIVE. It's a glorified rental service to play online and have access to other formats that you may pay subscription for like Netflix, while it's free on PS. At least with plus you are getting discounts and good free games. 360 needs to do a TOTAL revamp on the Rewards system because it sucks. Plain and simple. I'm not trying to white knight for Playstation as I do have a 360 that I love. However, I'm not going to sit here and say that the 360 trumps the PS3 in every way, because that is far from the truth. Oh and lastly, you totally have the option to NOT get the PS+ and buy PSN games and KEEP THEM. I know we have some adults here that can see where I'm coming from here.


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Comment #68 by morris69
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 09:25:24 AM
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It's each to their own, always will be. You're free to make your own decisions, but I'm tired of seeing people complain about XBL and complaining about it, when it won't change. If you can see the benefits, then fair play, keep paying for it and doing your own thing. I'm not exactly willing to pay for a service I can no longer justify, especially when the competition gives me more bang for my buck.


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Comment #69 by Jashole86
Friday, February 15, 2013 @ 01:29:59 PM
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Although he was right that I didn't know about this 'reveal' its ironic that his swipe has now let me know!


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Comment #70 by PSYCHOxCHIBI
Sunday, February 17, 2013 @ 08:29:43 AM
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Starlight777 pretty much summed up what I had to say on the subject. Thanks for saving me the work! :D


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