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Community Games Need Regulating, warns Ex-XNA member
Written Friday, July 25, 2008 By Joe Robinson

David Weller, an ex-XNA Community Manager, has warned that unless Microsoft regulates the new Community Games channel, it is in danger of being flooded by poor quality titles.

This is in response to the company's "deliberate" steps in refusing to even talk about the issue.

Speaking on his blog, Weller calls for more steps to be taken in order to help consumers know which of the games are actually worth playing.

"Being an ex-XNA member, I can still say, without a shadow of doubt, that Microsoft is offering a groundbreaking game channel, and that some people stand a chance to make great money from the system."

"But the danger for consumers lies in Microsoft's deliberate steps to avoid discussions regarding game quality, even during peer review. I firmly believe that avoiding commentary/ratings on game quality will result in frustrated consumers, who will have no way to discern the quality of a game among (ultimately) thousands."

"I think the upcoming plethora of games on the Community Games pipeline will only create more consumer confusion without them having a reliable guide."

As part of the 'major overhaul' of Xbox Live coming in the fall, the Community Games channel will allow user-generated games to be put up for sale, much like the current XBL arcade titles. These games are created using the XNA development kit released by Microsoft. 

 

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Forum Posts: 389
Comment #1 by DefEdge
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:01:29 PM
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Sounds a lot like how the Wii does stuff, no regulation, which accounts for all the garbage they get.


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Comment #2 by kiwi18
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:02:23 PM
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ha this guy seems to know his stuff. Listen to him Miscosoft


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Comment #3 by Akki Kitsune
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:02:55 PM
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That guy understands the need of having decent games. Xbox live Arcade has more that a few BAD games. Still i hope they release "The Dishwasher" on it that demo was good


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Comment #4 by Shipley0110
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:03:41 PM
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God I hope it doesn't end up like the Wii game market being flooded with piss poor multi game titles, and shit someone has knocked up in there spare time.

Heed his words Microsoft!!


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Comment #5 by pauly_27
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:20:51 PM
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They can't even offer quality games on XBLA titles, so these will be much worse than those.

To be honest, I'm don't give a damn about XNA, or even XBLA these days, for that matter. Overpriced garbage with online communities that for the most part, die after a week.


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Comment #6 by knockton55
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 02:27:31 PM
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Yeah I Agree with this, If I'm be going to buy these games I want reviews....I could be buying any old crap.


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Comment #7 by mjc0961
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:01:57 PM
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I agree with Weller. It's bad enough that Wii throws piles upon piles of garbage on its user base. The 360 at least offers demos, but that still won't be enough when anybody can make some crap in five minutes and upload it for the entire world to get suckered into buying.


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Comment #8 by its delicious
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:22:26 PM
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Um, what about game review sites and magazines? People can publish whatever crap games they want, but you don't have to buy them.


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Comment #9 by SebastianSB
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:27:00 PM
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#8's got it right. We already have websites that review XBLA games, so we're bound to have a place pop up that we can use to tell what XNA games are good, too. You just have to be smart about it and to a bit of research.


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Comment #10 by Newkirkj
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:37:24 PM
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I agree. I don't want to play a game designed by some schmuck that I have no clue what it is. The effort in trying to figure out what is good would far outweigh the benefits.


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Comment #11 by tpb
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:56:08 PM
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Amen! Microsoft should definately start roadtesting the game to ensure that you cant release complete crap on their console.
Unfortunately it will never happen - because M$ doesnt care if they get crap games on their console - as long as there are stupid people out them to buy it and pay them some royalties...
I agree with #8 - thats what review sites are for... but theres a difference between having a site to show a games good vs bad points - and having a review site giving game 1 or 2 out of 10 because its just an abysmal title that is purely a money spinner.
The hope being it would force developers to put some effort in! Look at superhero games... they always have such a potencial for being an AWESOME game... and then they ALWAYS disappoint because they are just developed on the ch


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Comment #12 by Almighty Tubsta
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 03:58:57 PM
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Regulation would be nice, but having it without them is better than not having it at all. #'s 8 & 9 are right.

Anyways, your bound to find a few diamonds in the rough.


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Comment #13 by Almighty Tubsta
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 04:14:06 PM
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lol @11 most superhero games suck very very much!


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Comment #14 by PalmettoPanda
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 04:27:36 PM
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XNA sounds a lot like Newgrounds.com and I don't mean that in a positive way.


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Comment #15 by TWD_Zombie
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 06:44:39 PM
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Hes right they need to regulate that shit, quality over quantity.


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Comment #16 by SewJmiter
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 08:16:21 PM
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why charge for XNA games in the first place?
they're made by amateurs for the most part
i, for one, will NEVER purchase one. i'll just wait on the good legit games, like new mega man!!!!! WOOT


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Comment #17 by IllegalBLAZE
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 09:45:54 PM
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Well remember M$ says they are starting to pull games off their shelfs when they don't perform well. It's likely XNA games will be held to similar yet to be disclosed standards.


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Comment #18 by IllegalBLAZE
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 09:49:39 PM
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Also if they are smart about how they run XNA, they will offer domos for their games like XBLA does. That way we can avoid buying garbage if we see one with a interesting picture or a quirky title.


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Comment #19 by ChrmoSchwinn
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 10:23:22 PM
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Sounds like alot of junk coming our way !!


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Comment #20 by rick james42
Friday, July 25, 2008 @ 11:20:06 PM
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poop


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Comment #21 by newbsicle
Saturday, July 26, 2008 @ 01:38:29 AM
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I don't even download arcade titles anymore unless I've played the games previously. It's always a waste of time just to demo them even. Hopefully microsoft will take some of the titles with lower ratings off the service like they had announced a while back.

JUST SAYIN'


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Comment #22 by newbsicle
Saturday, July 26, 2008 @ 01:43:37 AM
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Sorry about the repost.

post #16
If you have played demoed any of the xna titles you'd know they are far superior to the garbage board games that get released every week. Now don't get me wrong there are some great games like pac-man C.E. and cloning clyde but the majority of all xbla games are horrible.


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Comment #23 by hansen578
Saturday, July 26, 2008 @ 06:33:27 PM
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wtf #20 lol


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