Forum Posts: 1196 | Comment #1 by UberPirateNinja Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 09:53:43 AM | |
| It's not just an add on? Well, they would say that wouldn't they? They don't have the balls to come out like the guys behind Spec Ops:The Line and say its bollocks! |
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Forum Posts: 776 | Comment #2 by XxStuartxX 1990 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 09:54:36 AM | |
Hope it turns out well, but I'm not holding my breath.
MP wasn't needed, but if it is pulled off well, then this could be a serious contender for GOTY, IMO. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #3 by cockblocker Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 09:56:45 AM | |
Do
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #4 by M1CH4EL91 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 09:59:54 AM | |
| Keeping my fingers crossed should be ok, might be like mass effect that's wa ok |
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Forum Posts: 175 | Comment #5 by Crims0nPenguin Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:01:10 AM | |
Of course its not just on an add on...
its a gimmick. |
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Forum Posts: 1285 | Comment #6 by Pyrochaos Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:03:00 AM | |
Attention developers: EVERY GAME DOESN'T NEED MULTIPLAYER!!!!
Bioshock, Assassins Creed, Uncharted, ect. And now Tomb Raider! We don't buy these games for the MP, so stop wasting resources on it! |
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Forum Posts: 1285 | Comment #7 by Pyrochaos Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:04:11 AM | |
| I forgot about God of War on that list of games that don't need MP. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #8 by iBlaise Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:04:39 AM | |
| The fact that you can do some of the things listed above doesn't change anything. It'll still come down to whichever player kills the other player first. |
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Forum Posts: 149 | Comment #9 by GOWnage Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:09:51 AM | |
| I wish it was just an add on. The fact it isn't means they have spent less time on the story :( |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #10 by SeraphTC Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:17:29 AM | |
@9 No it doesn't - the story and single player has been developed by Crystal Dynamics, the multi-player by Eidos Montreal.
I'd still prefer it not be there though - imho the financial resources that went into it would have been better placed being used for post launch support and story based dlc. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #11 by cockblocker Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:19:40 AM | |
| @6 ninja gaiden |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #12 by Alvarez Azel Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:20:45 AM | |
I dont like that TR is having MP but "if" the MP is not reflected in the achievements and hampers your progress throughout offline (ME3) then I guess i'll be "ok" with it being there.
Still don't like it though, just seems wrong and more than likely an easy way for the publisher to squeeze more money out of MP DLC.
Games really are not what they used to be... I miss the late 90's :[ |
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Forum Posts: 1196 | Comment #13 by UberPirateNinja Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:22:15 AM | |
| @10 but surely the game has a set development budget, and putting mp in there has diverted funds/time from the single player, whether its a different studio or not. and having 2 different teams make 2 different parts of the game isn't usually a recipe for success, Medal of Honor really suffered for it. |
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Forum Posts: 776 | Comment #14 by XxStuartxX 1990 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:23:47 AM | |
@9
Nope developed by a completely different studio.
Personally i trust them to make it enjoyable, but I understand not all people won't MP in it, I myself am not a PvP kind of person, but I'll give it a shot and when I get bored I'll move on.
Something I have noticed that over the years, gamers have become increasing closed minded when it comes to MP, I know this franchise is known for been SP, but this a reboot, so you have wipe out all preconceptions.
No t all games that have MP in squeals are bad, Uncharted on the PS3 is awesome still, the Mass Effect Co-oP was fun for a while and something you can just pick up and play, Bioshock 2's MP was great IMO don't know why it gets so much hate and the AC MP is high in potential but the idiots that play are too used to the bum rush of most action games MP.
That said like 1 said, they are not all success stories, spec ops been a prime example of that, and it also looks like God of War will follow suit.
But don't let a few bad ones, put you off future releases.
Also in closing some games manage to F up their sequels with adding MP, Dragon Age II for example, so MP isn't the ultimate evil. |
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Forum Posts: 54 | Comment #15 by sakanakami Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:26:37 AM | |
| I have a feeling that this is going to turn out like Mass Effect 3's multiplayer. It wasn't needed, but it was well done and a welcome addition to a great single player franchise. |
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Forum Posts: 2289 | Comment #16 by Daiphyer. Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:30:29 AM | |
| Whatever, as long as it doesn't take away from the single-player, it's just 2-3 hours of play time and going "Yeah, okay." |
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Forum Posts: 123 | Comment #17 by Space Cadet Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:33:26 AM | |
| Still not sold. Maybe throw in Adam Baldwin and I'll think about it. |
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Forum Posts: 3643 | Comment #18 by The BiggD Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:35:12 AM | |
| Nope. Tomb Raider has been crossed off my list. |
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Forum Posts: 1192 | Comment #19 by ZedChuva Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:50:22 AM | |
| Hey, so long as they don't take away from the single player, they can shoehorn it in if they want. Until it becomes COD, where the campaign is a balls-ass afterthought, cause they only thing they care about is MP, then, eh... whatever. Far Cry 3 was GOTY and it had MP. Haven't played MP, don't care to. Shit, I haven't even entered my online code yet. LOL! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #20 by Z145H Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:51:22 AM | |
| iv played all tomb raiders wish they didnt put mp in this game not needed. iv now seen mp in action it looks okbut i wouldnt play online unless i play with mates |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #21 by The Deadly Gun Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:51:36 AM | |
| Sounds like a bad joke... |
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Forum Posts: 105 | Comment #22 by hotdogenigma Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:55:46 AM | |
| When they have to make assurances that it isn't an add on you know they are just gritting their teeth in hopes it won't suck. Umm...it'll suck! |
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Forum Posts: 3653 | Comment #23 by littlejay Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 11:03:09 AM | |
| I don't mind them adding multiplayer if done right. It's nice to see them trying new things. If you want the same game everytime, keep playing CoD and Madden. |
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Forum Posts: 493 | Comment #24 by AirborneRichard Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 11:05:16 AM | |
| If done properly like in Uncharted i def not have anything against the idea of Tomb Raider having MP. Okay i know the idea that devs seems to slam a MP into every game even those not need one is very common these days but hey i totaly enjoyed the MP part in Uncharted 2 & 3 the co-op for sure. Mabye time will tell if Tomb Raider,s MP will be just a good or not. |
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Forum Posts: 310 | Comment #25 by STONE DEVIL Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 11:28:22 AM | |
| MP with achievements in this game = NO PURCHASE!!!!!!!!! |
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Forum Posts: 1722 | Comment #26 by cheevo360 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 11:44:44 AM | |
Tomb Raider's MP will be empty by end of year when MW 4, BF 4 and other MP games ongoing later this year. Maybe not empty but small numbers of players to play MP in Tomb Raider since it is newer MP for Tomb Raider series so it is hard to tell if it is become less or more popular in later year.
I really look forward for single-player campaign. I hope Tomb Raider have 5 or less then 5 online achievements or will be nice nothing just full of single-player achievements. :P |
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Forum Posts: 493 | Comment #27 by AirborneRichard Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 11:50:35 AM | |
| @26 If the MP is good like in some MP games like Uncharted then gamers still will come back to it and play it. Ofcourse the majority will go on and play the new BF4 and MW4, but i somehow prefer the 3th person shooters then those 1th person MP shooters, because there way to many around but as with all they probly will hit the top list places again like every time again at the game of the year awards. |
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Forum Posts: 163 | Comment #28 by DeadlySinz86 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 12:01:24 PM | |
| It worked for Max Payne 3 ... but then again, Edios isn't Rockstar now, is it. |
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Forum Posts: 26 | Comment #29 by Wing X Custom Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 12:29:19 PM | |
| @17 lmao that would be badass. He was funny in ME2. I think Levi being in it is pretty neat though. |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #30 by Jack Flak Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 12:54:39 PM | |
| As much as I hate comparing games, that looks an insane amount like Uncharted multiplayer. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #31 by asilent boom Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:21:52 PM | |
| @13 It's possible that the publisher budgeted each studio seperately and that they don't effect each other. |
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Forum Posts: 185 | Comment #32 by DragonessAthena Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:28:13 PM | |
@14 No, BioShock 2 did not have great MP, it was the worst multiplayer ever created. If you were below level 30, you cannon fodder. Even then, it was just shock someone then headshot them the elephant gun or crossbow and you're dead. Then toss in the lag, the overpriced map pack you're not allowed to play if 1 single person doesn't have the DLC, and you have the perfect storm of bad multiplayer.
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Forum Posts: 202 | Comment #33 by Sanchezz4387 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:35:31 PM | |
| the developers dont and wont listen about multiplayer, its being added purely to charge extra for a season pass and dlc. its the new gimmick to milk a bit of extra £$ |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #34 by ebrooch7 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:40:02 PM | |
@32
While shock and then headshot was the simplest (and most boring) way to kill people, there were loads of other ways to do well at the multiplayer. And as for you doing poorly before getting to level 30, I don't know what to say since I never had a problem doing well in the game. I lost some and won some, just like in every single other multiplayer game |
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Forum Posts: 485 | Comment #35 by DarqStalker Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:44:59 PM | |
| so, I thought this was going to be co-op, like Guardian of Light, which is the game they used as inspiration and a testing ground. But, in this video, it seems more like vs multiplayer. Or am I not understanding it correctly? Although it seems ok from what I've seen in the video, I'd much rather have a co-op version, not a vs multiplayer version. Sigh, not every game "needs" to add a MP element to the game. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #36 by Enlightened 1 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 01:46:39 PM | |
| ##33 couldn't have put it any better this might be the last chance for Lara too many disappointing titles before its ruined already adding multiplayer |
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Forum Posts: 2084 | Comment #37 by mjc0961 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 02:06:25 PM | |
"Tomb Raider Multiplayer Behind the Scenes Trailer Assures "It's Not Just an Add-On""
Yeah, I remember when Uncharted said that. And Mass Effect. And Grand Theft Auto. And Dead Space. And all the other games that have had completely shit tacked on multiplayer modes that shouldn't have been there.
Tomb Raider MP exists for one reason and one reason only: so you can charge for online passes and map packs. |
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Forum Posts: 173 | Comment #38 by Blue Thunder28 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 03:09:53 PM | |
This actually doesn't look bad at all.
@9 Mass Effect multiplayer happens to be one of the best, and GTA4's was even better! I didn't like Dead Space's though. |
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Forum Posts: 173 | Comment #39 by Blue Thunder28 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 03:13:38 PM | |
| Why did I say @9 I meant @37 |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #40 by The Kingslayer Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 03:50:54 PM | |
| Nothing they can say will change my mind about forcing multiplayer into Tomb Raider. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #41 by asilent boom Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 05:23:50 PM | |
@37 Right, if you really believe that then I want some of what you're smoking or taking, it's got to be some good stuff because, for one, every new copy of the game comes with an online pass, and only people who buy the game used would have to buy and online pass.
Also, you don't seem to like MP in games, so don't play it, and you don't have to worry about buying an online pass and you can still enjoy the single player game. |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #42 by Total Shinobi Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 05:31:22 PM | |
@1 - They came out after the game released with that. You'd have to be a complete fucking imbecile to come out before your game is released saying 'OUR MULTIPLAYER IS SHIT, DON'T BUY THE GAME!'
Some people.
I'm willing to try it, it sounds like fun. |
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Forum Posts: 962 | Comment #43 by Delow317 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 05:32:14 PM | |
@ 32 I really don't care about your opinion of Bio2 MP. There are plenty of games I ca think of that have far worse MP than that. I actually enjoyed boosting it and playing it legit for a bit afterwards.
This game's MP better turn out better than Bio 2 though. Let's hope so! |
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Forum Posts: 310 | Comment #44 by zaXor101 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 05:54:40 PM | |
| At the end of the day. They are a business. A business need to make money and MP is a source of extension. DLC for MP is easier and cheaper to make and usually attracts more customers. Everybody on this site forgets that games are big business. |
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Forum Posts: 1722 | Comment #45 by cheevo360 Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 09:12:22 PM | |
| #27 Yep. We all have wait and see how Tomb Raider's Mp work and going through year after game launch. :) |
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Forum Posts: 250 | Comment #46 by CelticWarriorDB Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 10:31:04 PM | |
@14 They're just mad because they won't be able to get their MP achievements if the game has multiplayer. Really sad.
Maybe people should just wait and see how it turns out before judging it, but doing the opposite seems to be the 'in thing' nowadays. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #47 by killerofmen Wednesday, January 09, 2013 @ 12:12:26 AM | |
| Tomb raider+multiplayer=bad idea,could be wrong,just seems like developers will put mp on to anything these days,some games are better played alone |
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Forum Posts: 228 | Comment #48 by the action frampton Wednesday, January 09, 2013 @ 07:05:51 AM | |
| @46 that's just exactly what I'm gonna do; wait and see how it turns out. But that means I changed my mind from buying on day 1 to buying later on. And buying later on probably means preowned, so they lost my £ already. |
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Forum Posts: 1285 | Comment #49 by Pyrochaos Wednesday, January 09, 2013 @ 09:24:48 AM | |
Mass Effect's Multiplayer was just horde mode. Which isn't bad. AC3 added horde as well. Those modes can be fun, and most can be played in SP as well as co-op.
It's the need for versus MP that pisses everyone off. |
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Forum Posts: 176 | Comment #50 by maur1c1o Wednesday, January 09, 2013 @ 08:42:00 PM | |
| havent played much of tomb raider as i dont like solving puzzle but i like the look of this one the revamp looks great im looking forward to it i dont mind the multiplayer im sure its not gonna take away from the single player as its a different team doing it also its been in the making for a while so sure they have done their best hope its good i think the multiplayer will be similiar to jncharted on the ps3 |
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