Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #1 by 123yhman Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:45:35 AM | |
| Screw digital, retail purchases forever! |
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Forum Posts: 120 | Comment #2 by Croc 494 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:47:28 AM | |
What #1 said
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #3 by cockblocker Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:47:31 AM | |
| Mine craft has changed the world |
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Forum Posts: 1435 | Comment #4 by Vindicator51 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:51:22 AM | |
| @1 Said all that needs to be said. As long as physical is available, that's the choice i'll take. |
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Forum Posts: 178 | Comment #5 by Beardyboo Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:52:54 AM | |
| Re picture. Longue Hougue recycling facility if i am not mistaken |
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Forum Posts: 94 | Comment #6 by ritchie brown Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:55:14 AM | |
| Who could possibly throw TAKEN away?! :( |
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Forum Posts: 1525 | Comment #7 by Baihu1983 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:55:22 AM | |
| MVC...so pinch of salt. |
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Forum Posts: 178 | Comment #8 by Beardyboo Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:56:00 AM | |
Anyone that throws a NES away needs stringing up.
http://www.sustainableguernsey.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Longue-Hougue-recycling-facility-VHS-video-tapes-270912-%C2%A9RLLord-0012-SGB-em.jpg
Can anyone tell how extremely bored I am? |
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Forum Posts: 52 | Comment #9 by Original Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:56:14 AM | |
Wasn't there a discussion about the new Xbox having downloadable games only?
I swear this site was having a discussion about it a few months ago? I like physical copies of my games too btw. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #10 by Koilenterrorist Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:56:33 AM | |
| That picture makes me sad :( |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #11 by cockblocker Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:56:43 AM | |
@7 Its world news. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20885506
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Forum Posts: 270 | Comment #12 by davhuit Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:02:42 AM | |
| I don't mind digital when the price is good, or for XBLA games. I have a few Games-on-demand but 90% of my games are still retail because it's often cheaper after a few months and also because I don't need to download the game (I have a slow internetion connection so it can take a while to download something). |
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Forum Posts: 1525 | Comment #13 by Baihu1983 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:04:45 AM | |
| Retailers need to stop trying to rip off people with their pricing. |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #14 by TheBrute1997 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:09:25 AM | |
| Never going to understand the satisfaction of owning digital downloads, when you can own a physical copy. Shelves full of games, movies, TV and CD's will always beat files on a hard drive. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #15 by demonzwithryu Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:10:14 AM | |
| i'm in the same boat as #1 #2 and #4 love having the physical copy. also i think there's some wierd always online thing to be able to play full retail games you downloaded from the marketplace. |
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Forum Posts: 568 | Comment #16 by ModernSith2010 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:15:52 AM | |
| @13 are you high, go to any decent site Play.com, Amazon, Zavvi, TheHut, Ebay, etc and I can get most games at least 10% cheaper than digital and if I'm not an idiot and pre order I can have the game come early or at least on the day, if your ordering a older game and you can't wait 2-3 days for it to be delivered then you are a sad and impatient person. Good example Gears 3 GonD £39.99, were as I can get it from amazon for a whooping £13.49 and for that I get the smell of the new game and when I get bored I can either sell it my friend for a fiver or stick it on ebay/trade in. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #17 by jleek1992xx Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:16:36 AM | |
| I am shocked at that cause i have bought load's of games last year like Black Ops II Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition Rented but diden't buy Hitman Absolution and the likes aswell. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #18 by LeeBradley [STAFF] Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:17:09 AM | |
@7
Nah, this is kosher. Out of interest, why the MCV suspicion? The Wainwright thing? The general anti-Intent feeling? Or something else? |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #19 by Smash41 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:18:05 AM | |
The day Digital becomes the norm is the day I stop gaming.
Not being able to sell on/trade my games would kill it for me. |
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Forum Posts: 49 | Comment #20 by CraigChaotic Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:20:04 AM | |
| @15 I think that's got more to do with heping prevent modding etc |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #21 by SeraphTC Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:20:38 AM | |
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Yes, many people have spouted this at different points, and as I've said every time, I call BS.
The new Xbox will not be download only. Microsoft are well aware that physical sales trump digital, and they are invested in making their system a home entertainment 'hub'. They aren't going to do that by preventing people from playing their back catalogues of discs, therefore the system will have a drive. Whether it will have Blu-Ray or not is up for debate, but it will definitely have at least a DVD drive.
Given that the new tech is going to have a processing power boost over the current generation, but otherwise isn't likely to be much of a leap, I'd suggest that backwards compatibility with 360 titles is very high on the list of development priorities (Why? Because software attach rates on 360 are high, and Microsoft will want to capitalise on that). For that to work, again, the new system will need at least a dvd drive.
Download only on a home console for the next generation would make it extremely niche (restricting use to those with reliable high speed broadband - believe it or not, still not the majority of users). Microsoft aren't into restricting their number of customers, and they don't do niche. |
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Forum Posts: 2522 | Comment #22 by jamie1000013 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:20:42 AM | |
Can't be my fault I think everything I bought last year was a physical copy unless it was digital only.
Also where the hell is that bin and how many bags should I bring?!?!? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #23 by Buckdawg Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:23:46 AM | |
| The only thing that would make me buy a digital release over a physical one, is 50% discount on a DAY ONE release. They should test it with a triple A title just to see how well it does, and how much money the actual DEVELOPERS of the game get instead of the store that sells it. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #24 by Dodgyknees Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:33:20 AM | |
@23 I'm with you. If people want to buy physical, let them. On games I *know* I won't sell, I'll take a digital version at a discount, thanks very much. Chances are I'd buy digital mainly as I tend not to sell games.
Having bought hundreds (possibly thousands) of LP's, games, cd's and DVD's over the last 30 years, the appeal of having physical copies has long since gone as all most of them do is take up space. |
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Forum Posts: 231 | Comment #25 by Kisushima Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:34:07 AM | |
| Shocked by this news (at least how high the number is anyway). I think I've had more physical games this year than the past 4! I prefer a solid copy in my hand. Even better if it's swish like the HALO 4 CE. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #26 by RedstoneFanatic Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:45:40 AM | |
| It's much more satisfying to show off a collection of all my boxed games than it would be to show off a list of my Steam games. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #27 by StinkyPete2021 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:48:38 AM | |
| As a gamer who sells their copy after I get all I can out of a game, I always get the physical copies (except for XBLA and XBLIG). I never buy any games on demand, even if they are cheaper because they have ZERO re-sell value. |
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Forum Posts: 1200 | Comment #28 by IXISHADOW Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 08:31:37 AM | |
One of the biggest problems with digital only is bandwidth, not everyone is on or can afford unlimited broadband so they will be really limited as to how much they can download. On some tarrifs the monthly bandwidth is so low they could probably download an arcade game and be done for the whole month. Ultimately this would drastically affect the sales of a lot games. Therefore physical has to always be offered. It's different to music and films because they don't take up anywhere near the amount of space a game does.
Another thing, people who are on unlimited broadband are more likely to download a game if the prices are similar to physical retail copies. The prices of Games on Demand products is absolutely outrageous.
@#27 You also make a good point. Retail stores often have promotions on where you can trade in certain games to get credit towards a preorder or something similar. I personally don't trade any games in as I generally feel ripped off in a lot of cases, however it's always nice to have the option. |
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Forum Posts: 202 | Comment #29 by Sanchezz4387 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 08:52:04 AM | |
| I dont care how bad sales drop for hard copies I do not and will not believe that people are paying the grossly overinflated digital prices of games.....who pays £45-50 for a digital game 2 years old when the same game can be bought for £20-35 on the high street of online retailers |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #30 by Peter File Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 08:56:56 AM | |
just imagine,,
i got crysis 2 for 40 quid, 'physical', and made money back on it luckily,,
if that was digital id be fucked!! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #31 by Amakusa Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:08:51 AM | |
| @24: Storage is my issue as well. I'm collecting video games since the late 80s and don't know where to put all the stuff now. My appartment is full, my basement is cluttered with video game related boxes and even my parents' basement is full with my stuff, not with games and consoles but with bazillion manga I used to buy between 199x and 2009. I'd love to turn all this into a (legal) digital copy and play it on an unmodified console. :/ |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #32 by Amakusa Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:15:51 AM | |
I want to add that before I switch to digital download only, prices must be adapted accordingly and region restrictions MUST fall.
I don't want to be forced to buy a game's localised release. If I want to buy a spanish (language) game for example, let me do it. Region locks are evil. But with digital distribution, publishing processes gotta change anyway. Maybe there's still hope. |
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Forum Posts: 160 | Comment #33 by thisispreston Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:17:44 AM | |
| i never have, and never will, buy a digital download of a game |
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Forum Posts: 74 | Comment #34 by UKHC1977 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:24:46 AM | |
| Ive only ever bought on full price DLC game and that was the original Crysis. Looking at the prices on an earlier post about the EA sports games sales is enough to put you off buying digital for life. |
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Forum Posts: 228 | Comment #35 by the action frampton Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:26:10 AM | |
| That picture: 'CD's and CD cases only' but there is a Highlander VHS in there...! |
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Forum Posts: 281 | Comment #36 by ronnie42 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 09:30:50 AM | |
| Download are NOT the best option.............I have nearly fulled my hard drive countless times, retail discs are a great to avoid that happening. |
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Forum Posts: 100 | Comment #37 by LeafRaider Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:10:55 AM | |
| Fairly certain that this isn't the only reason for the drop... Recently gaming has been a hit in the 'casual' market (As we all know, unfortunately). The increase in retail sales will be no doubt influenced by this and perhaps those gamers have now grown tired of their games console and haven't bought any more games for it. Obviously this is speculation, but I think it likely. |
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Forum Posts: 100 | Comment #38 by LeafRaider Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:13:15 AM | |
| Sorry for the double post but @16 you seem to have totally misunderstood what he meant. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #39 by Dark Bahamut085 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:21:52 AM | |
| The best option would be both digital copy and retail versions to keep everyone happy! |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #40 by The Kingslayer Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:27:59 AM | |
| It's time for next gen !!! |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #41 by The Kingslayer Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:32:32 AM | |
| I prefer having a physical copy and like to build a collection but I can understand the benefits of downloading to a hardrive. Problem is most of the people I talk to don't have alot of storage or great internet speeds. |
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Forum Posts: 590 | Comment #42 by reaper527 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 11:49:17 AM | |
its apples to oranges here. this doesn't say digital/physical CONSOLE sales, it says game sales.
we have dwindling console sales because our consoles are obsolete dinosaurs that are on the verge of being replaced, meanwhile downloading shitty casual games (angry birds etc.) on phones and tablets is currently the trendy thing to do.
this isn't a sign of transition to digital, this is just a blip on the radar. |
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Forum Posts: 590 | Comment #43 by reaper527 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 11:51:41 AM | |
| oh, and the idea that digital downloads provide "portability" is the funniest thing i've read all day. i'm assuming that quote came from a marketing person. anyone who wants to resell, loan or borrow a digital item knows exactly how "portable" it is. |
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Forum Posts: 463 | Comment #44 by francisrossi Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 02:29:53 PM | |
| Digital's nice and convenient, but I'm no fan of the fact that you have no way to return a shit or broken game (something I suspect publishers are in no hurry to remedy). Also Steam's refusal to allow a proper option to play offline seriously annoys me. Hardly fair that I have no access to my collection if my net goes down without notice. |
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Forum Posts: 298 | Comment #45 by Phantomzero17 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 03:45:55 PM | |
I like the convenience of digital downloads aswell as how often you can get good deals.
I play on PC aswell so I'm used to Steam sales, Humble Bundles, Green Man Gaming, Amazon, etc. And every couple weeks I get that same "Wow that's a good deal" feeling I see maybe once a year on Xbox Live Marketplace.
Only thing that Console trumps on for me is that the new AAA titles go cheaper faster due to used copies being available. But typically you don't have to wait long on PC for someone to have a 30% coupon or something.
As a guy with 6 giant tubs of Vinyl I can now say at this age the feeling of owning the physical copy no longer matters. They honestly just take up space. |
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Forum Posts: 977 | Comment #46 by Delow317 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 06:53:37 PM | |
@ 23 while I do agree with your general opinion, even 1/2 off isn't enough to sway be to buy any game digitally that is also available on disk. Personally I'd rather pay double and have the physical media itself. I own over 120 XBLA titles and two GOD titles that arn't available anywhere else which is the reason I bought them in the first place.
I know this is inevitable.. COMPLETE DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION, but I think we still have one more generation to go before it happens. Next gen we'll probably see digital game sales skyrocket much more than they did this gen and when that starts getting to the point where people are actually buying more digital versions of games than retail (and they actually prefer doing so) that's when we will see the end of physical disks.
On the contrary though, Digital Distribution isn't going to happen to films as quickly as it is going to happen to games. I don't think avid movie buffs are going to accept anything less than a physical copy with lossless sound In DTS HD master audio and real 1080P. Neither streaming or a digital version will ever outsurpass a bluray disk.
Personally I'll probably inevitably accept the changes that are to come to gaming, but I wont be as forgiving when and if digital distribution takes over the home movie market. |
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Forum Posts: 59 | Comment #47 by Ninja Sandman Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 07:36:52 PM | |
the day videogames goes 100% digital I'm done. I love having the real thing and being able to play it anytime I want and not have to rely on servers or any other bs. If it ever does go full on digital I will have a backlog of physical games from nes on to play over till I'm dead.
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Forum Posts: 359 | Comment #48 by MasterKingz Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 08:21:09 PM | |
| I hope these stats dont include download only games... |
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Forum Posts: 115 | Comment #49 by Mittens2317 Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 08:21:38 PM | |
Compare the number of quality XBLA, PSN and Steam titles released in 2012 to the number of quality physical titles. Now factor in price, sales frequencies, and critical reception.
You'll soon realise that it isn't the consumer making a conscious choice to switch to digital, it's that the digital market is currently handled very well and offers highest value for money as it stands. |
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Forum Posts: 54 | Comment #50 by Rev0Knuckle Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:38:56 AM | |
| I'm not against digital distribution but it has it's place, mainly for XBLA/indie. It's certainly great for music but for films and games I will always want a physical copy. Especially with games as I don't tend to replay things once I've finished them, I want the option to sell on my paid for property once it's no longer of any use to me, something digital does not allow and publishers want to crush. |
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