Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #1 by astonwave Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:13:02 AM | |
| Take note developers. THIS is what you should be doing. |
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Forum Posts: 177 | Comment #2 by ghsbe Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:13:19 AM | |
| Capcom could take some notes on this. |
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Forum Posts: 303 | Comment #3 by Rickmassacre Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:13:41 AM | |
I Agree some dlc you should pay for after all the effort they go into making it.
but not disk locked dlc.
or dlc that bares no achievements |
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Forum Posts: 788 | Comment #4 by Dirty130 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:18:46 AM | |
| ..and in a perfect world there would be no war either. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #5 by CrazyJediMaster Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:20:08 AM | |
This really doesn't make much sense.
He already said it is OK to charge for additional content (i.e. expansion packs)
Just disagrees with how much should be charged for what content.
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Forum Posts: 59 | Comment #6 by FuzzMan3000 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:24:17 AM | |
| @5, it does make sense. He suggests DLC like Skyrim's Dawnguard, which is considered an expansion pack because of its size, is ok to charge for. Shitty weapon packs which are often ridiculously overpriced, should be free. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #7 by FoolKiller Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:27:58 AM | |
What a surprise...
CD Projekt RED came out with another pro-consumer statement. Gotta love their love of gamers and gaming.
These are the same guys that said if you bought their games for PC anywhere, you could use the CD key to get a DRM-free version from GOG.
These people are the classiest of the lot. I hope they stay around for a long time. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #8 by Snowtrader Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:28:33 AM | |
So for real dlc like dawnguard we should pay for but content drops on mw3 we shouldn't, that sounds alright to me.
I didn't get either but I'm really looking into getting dawnguard. |
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Forum Posts: 37 | Comment #9 by thenewpeter Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:31:52 AM | |
Nice to see developers with sense. :)
DLC should have a line where it can be free or charged for, depending on things. Capcom games, can really rip off on prices for dlc, just take a look at how much they charge in micro transactions for the street fighter games, for bits that should be free.
However, I'd be fine being charged for skin/block packs for mine craft, because they are very cheap, and there is excelent support, adding loads of aditional content all of the time for no charge, so charging one or two pounds for little skin packs is fine because of the other support imo.
Larger and adding dlc's should be charged for, thats fine, but small things, shouldn't. End of story there really :) |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #10 by CrazyJediMaster Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:38:19 AM | |
| #6, but who decides what size and what amount of content gets charge what for and what gets offered for free. Should map packs be charged for? Should story DLC be charged for? Should skins be charged for? |
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Forum Posts: 120 | Comment #11 by alklein35 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:44:36 AM | |
@10
Map Packs - No
Story DLC - If it gives at least 3 hours of extra gameplay, rushing through it, I'd say yes (for the right price of course)
Skins - No |
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Forum Posts: 256 | Comment #12 by neo consumer Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:49:16 AM | |
| Well, tbh after i've put so many hours into a game if the developer wants me to pay $1 to reload, i'm not price sensitive at that point. Obviously. |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #13 by strawberry Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:53:31 AM | |
CD Project > Bioware
Just saying. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #14 by Arawos Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:02:09 AM | |
I think the dlc's that Bethesda puts out is pretty fair to pay for. They put a lot of work into it and deliver a lot of new content. The two best dlc's I've ever played is probably Point Lookout (Fallout 3) and The Shivering Isles (TES IV: Oblivion) which both are from Bethesda.
I think all the free-mp to RDR is good and some of the dlc's are totally worth paying for as well. Mass Effect 3 has a good multiplayer as well and all the mp-updates there are sweet too. I hope more developers would do like they do. |
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Forum Posts: 490 | Comment #15 by Big Stoz Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:03:20 AM | |
| Honestly I would not have any qualms whatsoever of paying top price for a game if they included all DLC as a first day/week/month release incentive. I also think it is fair for developers to want to charge for passes/DLC on pre owned games. Paying nearly £20 for map packs is ludicrous and EA's insistance of charging you for the same DLC from their latest milking franchise has now gone beyond a joke. Whilst the soap box is out, what is the deal for charging for game themes, this is free advertising for the game surely they should be paying me for using the theme and promoting their wares. In reality the whole approach of selling and marketing in the game industry needs a damn good look at itself and a major shake up, before it's too late. |
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Forum Posts: 43 | Comment #16 by one84 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:06:00 AM | |
| The humble minds of europeans. Suckig up Americans! |
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Forum Posts: 47 | Comment #17 by xxxacexxxconks Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:10:50 AM | |
| might just go and buy this game now, for them talking so much sense! |
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Forum Posts: 136 | Comment #18 by Roose91 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:20:28 AM | |
Bang on the money. Nice to see a developer with the same sentiments as the consumer rather that pretending to listen to them, then bending them over for a good rogering whilst rifling through their pockets simultaneously.
The Witcher 2 was a great game, if a little hard to get into to begin with. Really hoping Rise of the White Wolf eventually makes it to consoles and that CD Projekt sticks around for a good long while. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #19 by ZLU CORONA Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:23:31 AM | |
| AMEN to that!! |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #20 by Euthanatos12 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:29:18 AM | |
| Well said. These guys are classy developers. I'm glad I bought their games. |
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Forum Posts: 35 | Comment #21 by Jeff 0ff Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:36:05 AM | |
| I have no problem paying for something like the ballad of gay tony but individule items like cars and costumes is greedy |
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Forum Posts: 1696 | Comment #22 by XoNiNjAlEoNoX Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:53:36 AM | |
THIS!
Remember the expansion packs back in the days... sigh |
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Forum Posts: 73 | Comment #23 by J0kerr2012 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:55:48 AM | |
Crazy idea...now listen..just let me finish...how about...if you decide the DLC is worth what is being asked you...wait for it...buy it...and if you think its not worth the money...you don't buy it.
WOW! |
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Forum Posts: 776 | Comment #24 by XxStuartxX 1990 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:00:47 AM | |
| I disagree, to a certain extent, the DLC that was included in the Witcher 2 on 360, is the kind that should be free, just a few added quests that don't actually add much gameplay, but when you look at the likes of shivering isles and general Knoxx that should be paid for. |
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Forum Posts: 73 | Comment #25 by J0kerr2012 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:01:55 AM | |
| " Ahhh, Should Land, where clean cut kids cruise Should Land Boulevard. And the Should Land High football team gets their optimistic asses kicked by their cross-town rivals, Reality Check Tech." |
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Forum Posts: 546 | Comment #26 by pauly_27 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:02:28 AM | |
With all due respect to this guy, if his games were doing numbers similar to Call of Duty, Gears and Halo, I imagine his attitude might be swayed by the potential of paid DLC.
That being said, I agree with the statement. Just give us good value for money with DLC instead of maps and character skins. |
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Forum Posts: 386 | Comment #27 by Bum Commando Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:07:13 AM | |
| Copy paste from IGN. |
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Forum Posts: 136 | Comment #28 by Roose91 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:08:11 AM | |
| @23 Because if you like a game/series enough, you're going to pay for it regardless. Furthermore how can you decide if it is worth the money or not without having played it? People who pay for things like shitty Saints Row 3 DLC and then complain about it, deserve everything they get, wheras with something like ME3's From Ashes, I was expecting some good DLC as the game was good; what I got was one mission and 2 achievements that take no more than 20 minutes to complete, that was in no way worth almost £10 and was actually on disc so should have been free anyway. |
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Forum Posts: 73 | Comment #29 by J0kerr2012 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:09:44 AM | |
@28: It appears to me that most people here have claimed what is not worth the money already before they bought it. LOL.
As for larger DLC deals, the main review sites review them. LOL..as if they were games to review.
And how do you know if a game is worth the money....LOL! |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #30 by strawberry Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:10:41 AM | |
| @28 did you just say ME3 is a good game? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you're freaking hilarious dude! |
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Forum Posts: 92 | Comment #31 by CHICHO Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:13:12 AM | |
Map packs and expansions are the only DLCs that should cost money.
Map Packs - It takes time to design a map for MP. 5 bucks should always be the price unless its like ten maps then a dollar a map.
Expansion Packs - These are always worth what you pay for it I think.
Any DLC that is just cosmetic or what not should be free. |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #32 by Agent Mantis Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:16:10 AM | |
| @24 the enhanced content that came with the witcher 2 was a new extreme difficulty, three new sets of armour and three new quests that resulted in about 2 extra hours of gameplay and helped tie up a few of the minor characters loose ends. Not exactly a minor amount of content. |
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Forum Posts: 95 | Comment #33 by B Rock3232 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:17:23 AM | |
| DLC should be regulated so that the cost is comparable to the amount you get out of the DLC. I mean Borderlands had way more gameplay with its dlc then COD and was only 800 msp and COD cost 1200 msp for maps! I personally think that no DLC should be over 800 msp, ever! That is why I have refused to by any COD dlc or anything else over 800 msp. |
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Forum Posts: 136 | Comment #34 by Roose91 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:19:50 AM | |
If you are basing how good games are on the reviews of a select amount of people from review sites then you are almost certainly missing out on a lot of games: I have yet to see a really favourable review for Deadlight, but it is without doubt the best XBL game I have played, even better than Resi 4 which I have loved since it was released on Gamecube and has consistently high reviews.
The larger DLC's are the ones people, including me, are advocating that people pay for. It the smaller ones that don't get reviewed that we are saying should be free.
I don't until I buy it, I use my personal intuition and gauge whether I like similar games and make a decision not necessarily based on anyone else's reviews or opinions.
Haven't seen so many Lols in a post since...well I don't think ever. Need to lay of the laughing gas there buddy, didn't realise I was making a funny back there. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #35 by RancidSkank Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:21:27 AM | |
| ...cue massive outcry when they charge for DLC on future projects after realising that's where the easy money lies. |
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Forum Posts: 136 | Comment #36 by Roose91 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:22:30 AM | |
| @30 See we've uncovered the resident troll who is still bitter about the ending that there was absolutely nothing wrong to begin with. Bioware pandered to you losers and changed a perfectly good ending already for your sake. Begone back to your cave now troll. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #37 by mitcho2013 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:26:23 AM | |
| Free DLC from Activision? Instead of $15 for 4 piece of crap maps! Hell yea. |
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Forum Posts: 112 | Comment #38 by Dragonmaster700 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:29:14 AM | |
While I wish more DLC was free, I dont really have a problem paying for DLC,as long as it signifigantly adds to the game. Things like the Borderlands add-ons (except the arena one, that one sucked) are worth the money to me. The Devs have to put in the work to make them, why shouldnt they get paid?
But holding things back for DLC, or selling unlocks for things on the disk as DLC are just wrong. Like Epic did for Gears 3. I mean I understand why they put "DLC" characters or skins on the disk, so non DLC owners can see them, but if its on the disk it should be part of the game IMO.
BTW, loved The Witcher 2, its easily one of the best games of this generation. Cant wait for The Witcher 3, and that Cyberpunk game looks interesting too. |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #39 by strawberry Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:32:41 AM | |
| @36 I don't recall ever saying anything about the ending. Yes, the ending was weak, but that's because the entire main story was shallow. But you wouldn't know what a good story is, so I won't bother trying to explain it to you. Enjoy your different colour of explosions. |
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Forum Posts: 1497 | Comment #40 by RDrules Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:37:07 AM | |
@36 your calling out a troll then trolling :/ great
that said me3 was a great game, had major story problems especially at the end but no ne can really deny that the game is fantastic in itself
on topic though they seem to get what everyone gets upset about, we shouldnt have to pay for tiny bits of DLC its one of the shittest things to do with the business today however the problems arent solely with the devs, people like valve for example would give pretty much everything free but MS wont let them, MS should be the ones regulating what people can charge for things because its their service but they are as bad if not worse than alot of the devs |
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Forum Posts: 136 | Comment #41 by Roose91 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:38:14 AM | |
| @39 But I would now say its fair to assume that I guessed correctly however, as you are mentioning the "different coloured explosions" in a negative tone now. I couldn't disagree more, it was not necessarily the ending it could have been, but the rest of the story was awesome. I can only assume that you didn't understand the game and that is why you didn't like it then as it is without doubt the best written gaming series of this generation bar none. |
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Forum Posts: 214 | Comment #42 by xD Rick Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:40:10 AM | |
Yeah, this is so right, and these guys have earned a lot more of my respect.
But in fact the ones to blame for the abuse some companies doing to us today (Capcom, EA, etc.) are you guys, who actually support this shit.
If weren´t so many idiots out there buying costume packs and disc locked DLC, they will cease this nonsense.
That´s it. |
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Forum Posts: 388 | Comment #43 by Caramel Cardinal Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:44:01 AM | |
| i'd love to see more developers take this on board but i doubt they will, what he says about expansions is true they did offer value for money so i belive all games with expansion ammounts of dlc should charge that much at most, so take cod for instance tehy usually have 3 or 4 map packs, to me thats 1 expansion so you ahould be able to get the lot for £20 or 600msp thats half there current price |
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Forum Posts: 733 | Comment #44 by Jack Frost Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:44:51 AM | |
I really like how Konrad's awesome position on free DLC didn't end with the announcement of a free DLC.
Way to back up your convictions... or something. ;) |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #45 by wickedclowns95 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 10:48:40 AM | |
| This should definitely apply if you buy any new game rather than used too. The fact that they are doing this makes me a fan of the company. Why wouldn't other developers want that? |
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Forum Posts: 1722 | Comment #46 by cheevo360 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:17:12 AM | |
This is biggest sense.
CD Projekt RED is correct, other developers need aware of it. :)
Understandable DLC with add story, MP maps, achievements and expansion to pay for but rest of many items, small DLCs and other need be free. This is fair. :)
Look forward what CD will do next expect I knew they mention in developing for Sci-Fi RPG or something. :) |
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Forum Posts: 1086 | Comment #47 by TrishTheDish Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:17:45 AM | |
| ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! DLC should be free? What next, games should be fun and not have Godawful shoehorned-in multiplayer?!? Hahah, CD Projekt Red are a bunch of spastics! |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #48 by Ereaser NL Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:25:53 AM | |
| @6 Like Just Cause 2 only charged 160MSP for like 5 weapons and another pack with parachute boosters etc.. To bad the game didnt have much replay value else I would have gotten them |
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Forum Posts: 304 | Comment #49 by ScottHarris Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:31:22 AM | |
| Too right it should be free . I pay for a game expecting to have the full game on the disc , then the extra content will be released and we are expected to pay for more of the game. I don't pay for bits of a game , i want the full thing. |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #50 by ash356 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:39:30 AM | |
@36
Anyone with a half-decent knowledge of the concept of story-telling could tell that ending sucked.
It was supposed to be a resolution. The end was built up through the first 2 games, and most of ME3, and what did the fans get?
A Deus ex Machina in the form of the Catalyst. Never mind the fact they could of used all the assets you'd acclaimed over the games to stage a huge battle that decided the ending, they had to use the weakest and laziest story-telling technique out there.
OT: Agree with the majority. Small things like extra weapons or extra costumes should ideally be a 'thank you' to the fans. Larger DLC's, e.g. Shivering Isles, Dawnguard, etc, are legitimate, as they take a large time to develop. |
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Forum Posts: 256 | Comment #51 by Pakhair Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:44:22 AM | |
| Hats off to them, There are hardly 10 dlc (which I've played) which I think were worth the money. Either they are cheap or overpriced |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #52 by Enigk Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:57:01 AM | |
| Is he having a go at map packs? They don't really expand the game just the monotony of the same maps over and over. Not usually worth the asking price. Whereas say something like shivering isles for oblivion was worth playing as real effort was put in. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #53 by sourberry Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:59:05 AM | |
Yeah, ME3's ending sucked the big one, the story and endings took no notice of what you've done previously, the war assets in no way reflect that. For example, your decision about the geth in no way changes the war assets strength of the geth even if you destroy them. What they SHOULD have done is have a third disc which had every possible conceivable ending explained step by step. Gamers have little imagination but even the extended couldn't spoon feed the ending properly to us so we have to hate on the company to anyone who'd listen or read our drival to satisfy our need to feel big on the internet!
I would explain what a good story is but since I couldn't see one staring me in the face I'll pretend you won't understand so I don't have to write a load of fail on the internet.
Enjoy your differing opinion, we all know your opinion is the wrong one! |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #54 by segagamer Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 12:07:07 PM | |
"Thank you, your order has been placed.
We've sent you an e-mail confirmation. "
Just bought the Witcher 2. I've been holding out waiting for it to get cheaper, but after that YouTube video of them saying thank you, and now this, they deserve the £33 from my account. |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #55 by Kroesis Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 12:18:56 PM | |
| Wait... does this mean we're getting some free dlc for Witcher 2? I've been waiting for some dlc for it and free dlc is always appreciated! |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #56 by General Redland Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 12:29:39 PM | |
So I started going through a list of good DLC in my head to remember which ones stand out as better than the rest.
Shivering Isles - Oblivion
Point Lookout - Fallout 3
Broken Steel - Fallout 3
Dawnguard - Skyrim
Awakening - Dragon Age: Origins
Frozen Throne - Warcraft 3 (okay, so it's a computer game)
Barbarians - Rome: Total War (also a computer game)
Knox's Armory - Borderlands
Kane's Wrath - Command and Conquer 3
etc
And then it hit me, all of the games with significant and good DLC that were worth their price were developed as console and PC games. I cannot think of a single PC game I have owned that did not have good DLC or expansions that were well worth the price.
I think we are long overdue for this to become a standard on consoles as well. |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #57 by Kyle Isaac Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 12:30:58 PM | |
| This is great to see; a developer agreeing with the general consensus. Now, if we could just get Acti and EA to follow suit lmao |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #58 by Heroic Stevie Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 12:48:25 PM | |
| Its a shame how much dlc is out there now. I understand that some games you just want to play more and more, but surely theres got to be a line what you would call dlc and not just an extra weapons/skins/characters/cars and so on. Before this generation, they would put so much effort into making the game and once it was released that was it. Now it seems every other week there seems to be some pointless dlc, some that would give you an advantage others if they couldnt afford it or a patch for a bug that wasnt fixed before release. I wouldnt say i dont like dlc but i think theres too much dlc being released that should allready be on the disc (unlocked for somecases). |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #59 by aim of kronic Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 01:00:53 PM | |
| heard good things about this game and i will now buy it just because of this news.. thank you my good sirs.. thank you |
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Forum Posts: 119 | Comment #60 by s.butler1 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 01:38:53 PM | |
| Rockstar & Bethesda know how it's done. Not always mind. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #61 by RDWatson16 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 01:56:39 PM | |
| EA pay attention |
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Forum Posts: 530 | Comment #62 by TRAGICTRIXIE Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:02:39 PM | |
| I think cod elite and battlefield premium should be free. Only expansion packs for like single player content should be priced but not ridiculous multiplayer crap |
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Forum Posts: 137 | Comment #63 by Rastaman20 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:26:46 PM | |
And this is why I love that company lol
And @62 I agree but both of those are massive content DLCs that give you a Shit ton of stuff for theprice you pay so that is justified, what CD projekt is saying is DLC like outfit packs and new colors and weapons n Shit of that nature is not major so it should not b charged for but dlc with content size such as " Shivering Isles " should be charged a premium price because of so much content is being added there for is justified, and I agree lol |
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Forum Posts: 25 | Comment #64 by DarthTrakd Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:31:19 PM | |
If the DLC is small and usless (capcom character packs or oblivion horse armour) then yeah, it should be free.
But if the DLC is HUGE and massivle story based then we should pay for it, just like we used to because the devs put a lot of time and effort into it and it has cost them alot of money.
To be fair Mass effect have hit the nail on the head, MP maps and character packs are free while the story based DLC is payed for (I assume it will be anyway), because it unlocks so much more of the story and game and is WORTH THE MONEY |
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Forum Posts: 206 | Comment #65 by SasileUchiha92 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:49:41 PM | |
| I think they might be my new favorite developer. |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #66 by UCFknighthood Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:03:36 PM | |
| This is why I bought Witcher 2 for both PC last year and 360 this year. Support the developers with a mindset like this! |
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Forum Posts: 849 | Comment #67 by my_box_72 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:12:19 PM | |
| Ya right as if that is ever going to happen FMD |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #68 by hibsta1992 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:12:49 PM | |
| @17 yeah I'm thinking about picking this game up also, since I now know that they won't charge ridiculous prices for a 10 minute expansion. Also I've wanted to play this but I wasn't sure what this game was exactly |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #69 by COKEORPEPSI Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:17:58 PM | |
@23
Once again someone using the awful don't want it don't buy it argument. It's not a matter of not wanting something and deciding not to buy it. People do want a lot of the smaller DLC. The argument here is whether or not it should be free so saying if you don't want it don't buy it as a counterargument doesn't make any sense at all. All you're doing is parroting a phrase you've heard someone else use before even thinking about if it makes sense. |
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Forum Posts: 1086 | Comment #70 by TrishTheDish Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:21:39 PM | |
| @54 Thumbs up for being awesome! |
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Forum Posts: 933 | Comment #71 by Lord Montymort Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:56:15 PM | |
| This reminds me, I need to go back and 100% Witcher 2. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #72 by wickedclowns95 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 04:06:42 PM | |
| Are they hinting that there will soon be some free dlc for The Witcher 2? That would be awesome! |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #73 by t800_courtney Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 05:20:40 PM | |
| Too bad Microsoft force companies like this to charge for content. Remember when Epic wanted free dlc for their games. |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #74 by PRxBeasT Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 05:26:00 PM | |
| Alright alright let's be real here. We all know devs would rather wipe their arses with this article. And then comes the fact that people actually pay for dlc and over priced arcade games. If we all stood up and refused to pay for over priced shit they would have no choice but to lower prices or give for free,but ofcourse some dumb ass is gonna come and tell me that they have a job and will give these guys "whatever they charge" because they think it's "worth the money".. Yeah like that's the point or something... |
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Forum Posts: 2227 | Comment #75 by fastNcurious Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 05:33:28 PM | |
| Completely agree. Someone needs to take a stand against the money grubbers at EA and Activision. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #76 by Social Cancer Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 05:46:09 PM | |
| @1 its not just developers, i say the publishers tell them to do it |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #77 by Shadowoso323 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 06:33:41 PM | |
It would be great for free DLC for small stuff. I understand companies spending money to make DLCs for games, but just for a few content like weapons or skins dont need to be charged.
Most of all, the pre-orders. You have to buy a copy before the release date to get the content for the same price as the original copy, and then they put it on the marketplace for a high price. They should just add it to the game instead of making one copy with and one copy without.
Then they come out with the Game Of The Year Edition (or any edition) that comes out with all the DLC content for a few bucks more than the price of a regular copy. And people get pissed off that they had to buy DLC for $10-$15 with their copy that they bought it before the GOTY edition came out. If they do that, why not just give us the DLCs for free instead of buying a new copy with everything on it. And everybody would be happy.
If you compare a regular copy, then adding the DLC from the marketplace, it cost more than a GOTY edition. Just give us the DLCs for free for people that has a regular copy after releasing a GOTY Edition. thats all i got to fuckin say... |
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Forum Posts: 580 | Comment #78 by mosin360 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 06:40:08 PM | |
| Eh, its nice for them to say but where are their games with a bunch of free DLC? They've put out two games which neither had any great amount of DLC. Thou I'm sure the next game they put out will have a fee for DLC and they'll say it's not their fault. |
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #79 by SoulReaver626 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 06:51:00 PM | |
| I haven't played the Witcher, but this is such a great thing to read. More people should take note on what he said. |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #80 by Kaz 421 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 06:57:06 PM | |
@12
I see what you did there. The day EA does that shit I'm done with gaming.
OT: I haven't play this game but I like the way these devs think. DLC for a few weapons or a couple of quest or hair color/different out fit shouldn't be charged no matter if it's a dollar or two. It's ridiculous. Something that is actually considered an expansion pack should be. |
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Forum Posts: 278 | Comment #81 by zarda1 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 07:24:18 PM | |
| this just makes me angry. for a brief momment i saw how beautiful the world could be and then it all disappeared. |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #82 by zr122 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 07:36:35 PM | |
| Yet another reason for me to pick up The Witcher 1 and start this series. From what I've heard it's one of the top Western RPGs available. It's good to see companies not just thinking about free DLC, but putting that information out there for the consumers to see. I hope this becomes more of a trend in the future. |
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Forum Posts: 1329 | Comment #83 by FFFreak1129 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:21:34 PM | |
I think Bethesda's DLC is worth paying for. You get so much content in that. But stuff like map packs, skins, and dlc that takes about 2 hours to finish should be free or if not cheaper then what it is now.
I hope CD Project RED is around for a long time. I bought The Witcher 2 Collectors Edition and will buy their next game. |
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Forum Posts: 16 | Comment #84 by Fleshtrap Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:35:34 PM | |
Just seriously thinking about picking up Witcher 1&2 for PC just to support these guys for saying that, the fact that they are awesome games helps as well :P
Make something worth buying and We'll buy it. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #85 by Kavas Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:44:52 PM | |
| To my surprise I have to disagree, while it's in my and everyone elses best interest to get free DLC, from a business standpoint it doesnt make sense. Back when Retail games were dominant, you didn't have to sell over 3 million copies to keep your business from going under and your studio doors open. The market has changed and these developers need to find new ways to make revenue if their game doesn't sell 3+ million copies. Some games I'd love to get sequels won't because the developer stated the publishers aren't interested in AAA titles anymore. So these smaller games have to make money on additional DLC. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #86 by Kavas Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:46:55 PM | |
| Anything but AAA* |
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Forum Posts: 77 | Comment #87 by _Nosferatu_ Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 09:54:40 PM | |
| Thumbs up! |
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Forum Posts: 1497 | Comment #88 by RDrules Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:12:20 PM | |
@85 it doesnt actually make business sense for any of the smaller companies, sure for EA and activision where they own an over inflated share of the market anyway and so anyone who plays games is practically forced to play their titles
but for smaller companies they actually have to keep their customers happy and free things makes customers very happy and having a loyal fanbase is make or break for smaller companies.
rather than being good business the big companies do it because quite simply they can get away with it and make money from it
remember this is the stupid tiny DLCs that cost fuck all to make and put in the game, any idiot with a 3D editor could make half the things they try to sell for 100 or so points
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #89 by COKEORPEPSI Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:36:23 PM | |
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I assume that you're referring to 38 Studios. It's easy to say that they went under because they didn't meet their goal of selling 3 million copies but their biggest problem was that they were too ambitious to begin with. Their first and only game which was Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning had a budget of over 60 million dollars. That's a higher budget than what Halo 3 ($55 million) and Metal Gear Solid 4 ($60 million) had.
The difference is that both of those franchises were well established and very popular so the cost was justified. For a new developer to start off with that high of a budget is beyond absurd. |
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Forum Posts: 16 | Comment #90 by Fleshtrap Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 11:56:41 PM | |
| I personally don't think it's so much like DLC should be free, but it should be worth the money. 1200pts for just mp maps is pretty steep. Some developers are actually trying now however by adding new weapons, skins, sp content as well as maps. |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #91 by Aussie27Legend Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 02:48:09 AM | |
| Oh CD Project Red |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #92 by gof22 Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 03:59:05 AM | |
| @24: The DLC for The Witcher 2 was free on the PC and the consoles. Console owners just had to pay the price for a new game and got the the DLC along with it. PC owners who already had The Witcher 2 were able to download the DLC for free. |
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Forum Posts: 62 | Comment #93 by Sigmund666 Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 04:19:17 AM | |
Kind of a dillemma and a misconception of the term for me.
I remember when you bought a game 10 years and earlier ago, they made a mission pack, or a pack with extras, they called it an add-on. It really added something to the story, or expanded upon a story.
If they release something little like a weapon or skin pack, I wouldn't pay for it.
For examples like Oblivion, Skyrim or Fallout I would pay. They put work in that so you have hours of extra gameplay/level cap etc. |
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #94 by NJ x BaNdiT Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 06:47:45 AM | |
| I highly agree with everything on this article. What gamer wouldn't. |
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Forum Posts: 2982 | Comment #95 by DecadentBeaver Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 07:38:23 AM | |
| CD Projekt Red have to be the Devs with the best way of thinking. If only more would think like that. |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #96 by XAssassinX2819 Saturday, August 11, 2012 @ 10:08:40 AM | |
| Ahh refreshing to hear a Dev say that. I love CD Projekt Red |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #97 by jmaverickjwb Saturday, August 11, 2012 @ 01:46:19 PM | |
| I will buy a game day one full price if you offer to give me DLC for the year for free. I also bought Witcher day one and I loved it. |
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #98 by Dlark17 Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 04:23:34 PM | |
CD PROJECT RED. HERE IS MY MONEY. I LOVE YOU.
Dude... are they just trying to be perfect and infallible? I mean really now. This is cool. Good games, good company ethic, good stance on the modern gamer and industry... These guys are awesome. |
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Forum Posts: 54 | Comment #99 by TheSolitary 133 Monday, August 20, 2012 @ 07:47:18 AM | |
| Did i miss something? There is dlc for The Witcher 2? Or is it the stuff included in the enhanced edition? |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #100 by gof22 Thursday, October 25, 2012 @ 05:26:29 AM | |
| CD Projekt Red is awesome. They hate and don't use DRM and they also believe DLC should be free. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #101 by L33D5x84 Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 04:21:09 PM | |
As with any gamer/consumer, I completely agree with this article & the developers' way of thinking... If you disagree with this, then you either work for a cash-greedy developing company, or you're one of those more-money-than-sense idiots who are happy to pay them...
"NO GAMERTAG ASSIGNED TO FORUM PROFILE" seem to largely be rival games developers & people just disagreeing, in general :/ |
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