Forum Posts: 180 | Comment #1 by Floodclaw Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:49:13 AM | |
| With the prices on Games on Demand, would it really be worth not going out and buying the disc and getting three-in-one? An odd move by Microsoft. |
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Forum Posts: 300 | Comment #2 by BUZZARDIO 1080 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:49:45 AM | |
| i just want mgs1 (psx not nes) ,i dont understand why it was never in the collection in the first place. |
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Forum Posts: 36 | Comment #3 by TerraRazoR Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:50:19 AM | |
| Just give me MGS1! In HD of course! |
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Forum Posts: 36 | Comment #4 by TerraRazoR Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:53:06 AM | |
| @2 it was for Japan and a VERY Limited edition in UK/US but they were never in shops in US/UK (online only) and were going for £300 USED on ebay and £500-£700 sealed in the first 2 months after release! |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #5 by welsh dragon888 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:53:10 AM | |
| That's all well and good but can you please give us MGS1 and MGS4 to complete the package pleeeeeease, you know it makes sense hideo kojima ;) |
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Forum Posts: 256 | Comment #6 by Pakhair Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:53:59 AM | |
| What of the achievements MGS 2 and 3 share the same list :? |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #7 by welsh dragon888 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:54:30 AM | |
@2
that was metal gear on the NES, not metal gear solid ;) |
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Forum Posts: 652 | Comment #8 by Stormy2k Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:56:05 AM | |
| I'd happily get MGS3 as I haven't played that, but stuff doing MGS2 again in HD, once on the PS2 was enough. |
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Forum Posts: 462 | Comment #9 by M1 Punk Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:56:38 AM | |
| If it were on XBLA for 800 MP then ok, but I'm guessing it'll be 15/20 bucks each which is nonsense. This is the best way to avoid Peace Walker though, that game was ASS! |
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Forum Posts: 150 | Comment #10 by Lukhuta Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 07:57:49 AM | |
Same question as @6.
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Forum Posts: 180 | Comment #11 by Floodclaw Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:02:00 AM | |
| @6/10: They do indeed share an achievement list, which is why it's so weird that they're being released separately. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #12 by DeepInfern0 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:04:59 AM | |
@9 In all fairness the MGS games are usually way over the 10 hour mark in terms of how long it'll take an average player to complete it. I do agree though that 15/20 bucks is a little expensive for 1 game that came out in 2001 (2002 for substance) or came out in 2004 (Snake Eater). I guess we'll just have to wait and see for M$ or Konami to announce a price for each individual game.
The doesn't really bother me though because I've already got the HD collection, and it's extremely entertaining. Lot's of replay value I would recommend it for hardcore MGS fans who haven't got it or the new MGS fans who want to give them a go. |
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Forum Posts: 141 | Comment #13 by shavron Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:07:27 AM | |
@3, Remember, these are HD ports, not graphic overhauls. Basically they smoothed out the edges and made it look more crisp. It still has the same textures as the PS2 version. Given the graphical difference between PS1 and current gen, it's pretty pointless to do a HD port.
@8, I picked up the retail version of this when it came out and decided to play MGS2, despite not being too impressed when playing it on the PS2. I think it's probably because I understood the story a bit better but it was much more enjoyable the second time around. I'd recommend giving it another shot. |
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Forum Posts: 37 | Comment #14 by thenewpeter Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:10:38 AM | |
| Yeh... I wouldn't buy them from games on demand, you're lookig at all 3 for £25 ish atm, that will only go down as time goes by... with what games on demand charges, only an ideot would buy from there unless its at the most £10 per game, any more is a blatant ripp off. |
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Forum Posts: 1193 | Comment #15 by ZedChuva Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:10:40 AM | |
| Pretty much ALL GoD are a rip off. 90% of the time (or more), you can buy a physical copy for $10+ cheaper. Only things NOT available in retail are worth it, like Crysis. |
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Forum Posts: 36 | Comment #16 by TerraRazoR Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:11:03 AM | |
| @13 Yeah I already know mate. Would like to look slighty nicer. And if they wanted to they could just remake the same game from the ground up. |
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Forum Posts: 879 | Comment #17 by TacticalTodger Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:24:31 AM | |
| @15 I agree. The only time I've used GoD is for RE4, Crysis. Oh and when they had that massive reduction week, where I got Kameo for £4 due to the sheer value I couldn't be bothered to look for a used copy. |
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Forum Posts: 2982 | Comment #18 by Akuza Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:30:00 AM | |
| Konami "shit we didn't earn enough money from our money grabbing HD collection!! I KNOW! We'll release them indivually on Xbox games on demand and charge about 1800 points per game !" |
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Forum Posts: 789 | Comment #19 by Dirty130 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 08:39:41 AM | |
I got the HD Collection already, played through MGS2 but never went on to 3. Finished them both in the past more than once but still want to play Snake Eater on 360 for the slight graphics boost.
Anyone who never played them should atleast pick up MGS3. Fact. |
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Forum Posts: 98 | Comment #20 by slycooper20 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 09:20:33 AM | |
@1
Well, really you can only guess at the file size that all three games together would be. I imagine it would be pretty freaking big, so I'm assuming that's probably why they've separated the games. |
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Forum Posts: 300 | Comment #21 by BUZZARDIO 1080 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 09:42:19 AM | |
| @4 Great info mate , i never knew it was released. it does beg the question to konami, that if it sells on secondary market for such a crazy amount of money , why they dont they release it to the general public, the demand is obviously there. |
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Forum Posts: 951 | Comment #22 by Chaosflare Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 10:16:49 AM | |
| If they're more than $15 each, it's not worth it. |
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Forum Posts: 66 | Comment #23 by ConcreteSnake Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 10:25:34 AM | |
| I read that its going to be mgs 2 and 3 as one game and peace walker would be separate, and this is only for the 360 as the ps3 will get seperate versions of all games |
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Forum Posts: 281 | Comment #24 by ronnie42 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 10:45:48 AM | |
| Already got the collection from stores BUT I 'Repeat' this is NOT a true hd collection without metal gear solid 1!, They claim they couldn't realise it because its hard to get ps1 games so explain to me why they couldn't import the mgs remake! (facepalm) |
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Forum Posts: 169 | Comment #25 by Arron114 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 11:04:53 AM | |
| konami have announced mgs 2 and 3 will be on GoD with peace walker the week later , just as the discs are. They wont be seperate. |
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Forum Posts: 169 | Comment #26 by Arron114 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 11:06:52 AM | |
A cited on their facebook page
August 21st:
• METAL GEAR SOLID 2 HD Edition (PS Vita
: SONS OF LIBERTY - HD Edition (PS Vita)
• METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SNAKE EATER - HD Edition (PS Vita)
• METAL GEAR SOLID 2: SONS OF LIBERTY - HD Edition (PS3)
• METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SNAKE EATER - HD Edition (PS3)
• METAL GEAR SOLID - HD Collection – MGS2 + MGS3 (X360) – Games On Demand release |
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Forum Posts: 444 | Comment #27 by MoldyClay87 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 12:12:57 PM | |
@24 - Ehh... They can't import the remake. Nintendo owns it, I believe.
The Twin Snakes was made by Silicon Knights (originally a Nintendo 2nd party, I think), Konami made the cutscenes, and the game was overseen by Shigeru Miyamoto in addition to Hideo Kojima. Psycho Mantis references numerous Nintendo games and it has a model of Mario and Yoshi in the room where you meet Otacon.
They'd have to edit the game and contact Silicon Knights/Nintendo, despite it being a Konami game. And considering Konami didn't even handle the HD ports, I really doubt Bluepoint Games cared enough to go through all that trouble for one game. |
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Forum Posts: 451 | Comment #28 by Mr Matty Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 12:26:05 PM | |
I find this funny.
Why would you wait a whole year to add it to god
Makes no sense at all.
Come Feb this game is gona be £20 maybe 15 and they are gona sell them for that EACH.
Just save yourself the wait and £30buy it out of the shops .
On a side note Such great games esp 2
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Forum Posts: 584 | Comment #29 by GR4V1G0R3 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 01:06:15 PM | |
bah good to be able to buy the games seperately, but why such a long delay between regions....think i'll just buy the disc version and not play MGS2
they'll probably want £15 upwards per title anyway, fleecing ass munchers (MS i mean, still annoyed and bored waiting for WP7 marketplace & DOTW to update)
also, i see no date listed for the PSP title, i forget it's name, are they not bothering with that, then only one i've not played ???? |
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Forum Posts: 530 | Comment #30 by TRAGICTRIXIE Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 01:40:15 PM | |
| I really hate the control scheme of these games. Its really bad |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #31 by Stoko Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 01:40:21 PM | |
| Kinda sucks that MGS2 and MGS3 won't be seperate. They're seperate on PS3, and so each game has more trophies than the Xbox version has achievements. |
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Forum Posts: 538 | Comment #32 by fresh fish 101 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 03:37:27 PM | |
| this is cool... i'd be willing to pay for just "Snake Eater". |
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Forum Posts: 26 | Comment #33 by StrikeAnywhereX Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 04:00:20 PM | |
| I think it's a smart move on their part. Well - smart in the fact that some users may be daunted by the achievements for MGS 2, but still want to play MGS 3. |
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Forum Posts: 1722 | Comment #34 by cheevo360 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 04:47:57 PM | |
| What a crazy year for Solid Snake!! I hope Snake returns in MGS 5!! Want see him returns again. :) |
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Forum Posts: 23 | Comment #35 by darkdeath174 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 04:58:22 PM | |
| Wait if you can purchase MGS2 and MGS3 separately from Games on Demand wouldn't that cause a fuck up with the gamerscore rules. It would mean if someone bought just one of them that they could only get 500 gamerscore and would be blocked from the rest.... |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #36 by randallm33 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 05:18:50 PM | |
| They separate them for those people like myself who are only interested in the main cannon games and are way too obsessive about achievements. Similar to how Portal can be bought separate from the Orange Box. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #37 by DeepInfern0 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 05:53:42 PM | |
| @27 I believe Sony owns MGS1 not Nintendo. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #38 by astonwave Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 06:12:20 PM | |
| It's a shame they can't include the MGS1 remake in this collection. They'd probably have to re-tool the entire thing to work with a 360 controller. Then again, there's the whole copyright thing too. I don't know if Sony'd be willing to allow them to port a flagship title like MGS over to another system. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #39 by hibsta1992 Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 09:48:21 PM | |
| Is there still any chance that we can get the Splinter Cell HD collection, on disc or on demand, I don't care |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #40 by Kitsune Goth Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 10:16:39 PM | |
As definitely stated by many others, the retail disc of most games compared to games on demand are eventually far cheaper. The used game market ensures that. Notwithstanding retailers have sales or clearance games.
Unlike Microsoft's games on demand where you have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding a decent sale. Additionally many games on demand are initially priced nearly identical to newly released games. |
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Forum Posts: 753 | Comment #41 by eiVaL Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:45:09 AM | |
lol they sucked collectively , why would anyone buy them separately...
theres a reason that no game developer in the last 10 years adopted the control pattern of making it necessary to hold the D-pad in a direction to stay in cover |
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Forum Posts: 186 | Comment #42 by Jabbawocky Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 02:57:31 AM | |
| @37 No Sony don't own MGS they just happened to be the most associated with the first one. Originally it was ported to PC, ironically by Microsoft. Then they remade it with a complete graphical overhaul for Nintendo Gamecube. The problem is that this remake can't be ported on anything other than a Nintendo consoles because of their input. |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #43 by crunchb3rry Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 03:19:03 AM | |
| Ripoffs On Demand. Some games on there are older than dirt. Still fetching 2-3x the used market rate for a sealed physical copy. But enough gamers now have that "I'm too lazy to go to the store, I want it NOW!, even if it costs more." mentality, so Microsoft makes enough sales on this shit to justify the pricing, and have freely admitted as such when questioned about it all. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #44 by Ps1082 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 05:47:34 AM | |
| Bought Lego starwars tcs on God for my kids as couldn't find cheaper retail version, apart.from that don't use god way too expensive! |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #45 by DeepInfern0 Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 08:05:14 AM | |
| @42 Ok then, please tell me what 'input' Nintendo had in the development for MGS1? As far as I know they had no input on it whatsoever. |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #46 by robhavok Thursday, August 09, 2012 @ 04:13:05 PM | |
@4
The uk special edition didnt come with metal gear. It was said to have come with the code, but the name of the edition was changed as the code didnt come.
I dont know if its the same with the US the jap version def did come with the code, which means the game is downloadable for xbox. well done konami and microsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_HD_Collection |
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Forum Posts: 47 | Comment #47 by WeaverDudeSkate Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 06:15:48 PM | |
@4 Im Pretty sure Xbox isnt allowed to get MGS1 or MGS4 because Sony or Konami have the rights to Solid Snake locked down to just Playstation games. Meaning no MGS1 and no MGS4. We got MGS2 because even though Solid Snake is in it, it is mostly a Raiden game.
Konami have said that they are looking into bringing MGS4 to the Xbox, which might also bring with it MGS1 at some point, but for the moment we are doomed to Raiden and Big Boss based games :/
And about there being a Limited Edition with a download code for MGS1. It would have been for the PS3 Version, which is why the site took the listing down and edited it, because they were offering something that wasn't for us.
As of right now, us Xboxers aren't allowed MGS1 and MGS4. Maybe in the future, but for now, we all need to dust of our PSOnes for MGS1, and as for MGS4, maybe go to youtube and watch someone else play it, which for me, was how i first got introduced to games by my older siblings playing them first... |
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Forum Posts: 753 | Comment #48 by eiVaL Friday, August 10, 2012 @ 09:16:27 PM | |
its not a matter of if XBOX can get the first and last ones, the first MGS was a PS1 game...theres no way to make PS1 'HD', Sony themselves said this when they first announced it
and the MGS4 was developed for the entire BluRay disc space and the PS3 hardware, which means it cant be 'ported' ever, unless Xbox starts using bluray |
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