Forum Posts: 41 | Comment #1 by 123yhman Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:18:29 AM | |
| What a load of shit. |
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Forum Posts: 58 | Comment #2 by Eythan Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:18:49 AM | |
| wow I didn't think the consequences would be that bad, 2 years in jail? damn |
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Forum Posts: 169 | Comment #3 by Arron114 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:19:20 AM | |
I watched this on the news this morning, saying parents where confused, they didn't know a title called grand theft auto with a big 18 sticker slapped on it and pictures of guns on the back, would be subtle for their 13 year old child.
Says more about the parents then the British classification system(s). |
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Forum Posts: 242 | Comment #4 by JustAFriend Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:19:32 AM | |
| Why does it all matter? If a kid wants an 18 rated game, they will just get their parents to buy it for them! |
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Forum Posts: 169 | Comment #6 by Arron114 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:20:24 AM | |
| and lets not forget anyone can walk into tesco and buy 50 shades of gray. |
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Forum Posts: 205 | Comment #7 by Chpainkiller Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:25:57 AM | |
| @5 I hope you get banned |
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Forum Posts: 794 | Comment #8 by Dirty130 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:26:45 AM | |
| @5- I don't care for the new Batman movie much but that Sir was douche-move. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #9 by roza Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:27:18 AM | |
@5 Cunt
And this was needed why? BBFC was accepted as it. So now retailers are going to be more aware how? Just very pointless and stupid waste of time if you ask me. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #10 by Forthe Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:27:21 AM | |
| @7 I hope you get herpes. See I can be mean too! :P x |
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Forum Posts: 569 | Comment #11 by ModernSith2010 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:38:40 AM | |
| So what happens to all the stock retailers have with BBFC rating's does it have to be sent back or will they be sold of cheaply :s |
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Forum Posts: 42 | Comment #12 by austen2k7 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:40:36 AM | |
| Maximum six years? I could murder someone and maybe get out before six years. Pathetic. |
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Forum Posts: 1770 | Comment #13 by cheevo360 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:42:58 AM | |
| Good now we all have less kiddos on any mature games!!! Hehehehe |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #14 by iflashhbackz Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:47:08 AM | |
| the parents need educating on this matter whether its down to the the companies or the government to do this with adverts or other means would seem more useful rather than punishing an employee heavily just my opinion. |
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Forum Posts: 672 | Comment #15 by ThaMyth Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:47:27 AM | |
unlimited fine? "we are gonna need 20% your earnings... foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #16 by iradam Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:51:21 AM | |
| What about if you order a game offline? Like a 12 year old buying CoD off amazon? |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #17 by cRaZyLIZARD76 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:53:19 AM | |
| I want PEGI for Germany!!! |
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Forum Posts: 92 | Comment #18 by InsulinShaman Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:53:44 AM | |
| Maximum of 6 years... That's kind of harsh... |
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Forum Posts: 2726 | Comment #19 by LickableLemons7 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 08:57:34 AM | |
| I want PEGI for the USA! Make it universal. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #20 by colderclimate Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:01:15 AM | |
Ladies & Gents.
I believe that's what they call a deterrent as opposed to a definitive punishment. They say that murder cases can have life imprisonments commuted against them but it's rare (sadly) so I doubt a full 6 year term will be applied should (or more inevitably, when) these laws are breached.
You should worry yourselves about how you get your next achievements and less about the law as railing against it on an Internet forum isn't going to change it. |
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Forum Posts: 449 | Comment #21 by Ehrenfried Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:07:02 AM | |
| I will miss the cool looking BBFC18 Logo. |
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Forum Posts: 193 | Comment #22 by DarkGin87 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:07:35 AM | |
| A parent could still go buy the game for the child so it not going to make an impact, but it does mean 16 and 17 trying to buy the next COD are out of luck, they will have to do ID checks. just comes into play when such games top title games are coming, borderlands 2, COD Bl OPs 2.0 will it have a effect on sales, possibly :D "let the good times roll" |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #23 by Chainsaw Chunk Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:20:00 AM | |
| Absolutley useless as has been said before come November all those sheep parents will be queing up at midnight to buy little Timmy his shiney new CoD game no matter if he is 7 or 17, also you will still see parents in Game/Gamestation being sold 18 certified games then handing them straight to thier little shites without a single consequence no knock on effect at all fact! |
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Forum Posts: 105 | Comment #24 by ClassicZach Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:30:07 AM | |
| Just buy it on the internet if your 2 young lol ;P |
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Forum Posts: 101 | Comment #25 by ShinAkuma Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:30:52 AM | |
| no more 10 year british kids on COD? Well i guess most parents are over 18 >_> |
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Forum Posts: 37 | Comment #26 by thenewpeter Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:38:24 AM | |
This will dimish sales some, though kids will still get games they're not mature enough to understand. There are few young kids that know the difference between fantasy and reality at a young age.
People will do the age old trick of getting their parents or grand parents ect. to buy for them, as I used to.
I honestly don't get how parents do buy for their kids, then complain about the game, ignoring the warnings, just as a side note.
This is an extreme, but I'm not to bothered to see it put in place, just means more ID checks when buying things. |
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Forum Posts: 228 | Comment #27 by the action frampton Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:42:47 AM | |
| @14 the parents need educating? If they are too dumb to count to 18 then they should even be allowed kids; they are already obviously already aware that they are breaking the law. I don't see any difference between the BBFC ratings and the PEGI ratings personally. Parents will still buy for their kids |
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Forum Posts: 10742 | Comment #28 by Gackt Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:43:30 AM | |
| this is great news. ESRB needs to follow them with this. |
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Forum Posts: 787 | Comment #29 by XxStuartxX 1990 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:52:22 AM | |
@4
That would technically be illegal also, the same as buying alcohol for a minor is illegal, this would be also.
I'm guessing. |
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Forum Posts: 463 | Comment #30 by francisrossi Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 09:54:58 AM | |
| @29 - It is. It also was on the BBFC system, only it never seemed to stop retailers selling to a parent with a kid in tow, blatantly buying for them. |
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Forum Posts: 109 | Comment #31 by [Ku-Ga] MasonCooper42 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 10:16:57 AM | |
| wont work, nice try but wont work, as kids will as has been said get the stupid parents to buy them a crazy war game. |
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Forum Posts: 109 | Comment #32 by [Ku-Ga] MasonCooper42 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 10:18:14 AM | |
| online sales are gonna rocket with little kids as they'll have the parents cards, which you have to be at least 16 if not 18 to buy |
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Forum Posts: 482 | Comment #33 by fallout frank Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 10:44:46 AM | |
| I was 10 when I got my auntie to buy me GTA3 im now 21 and I turned out just fine. Age ratings on games is total bs as kids are subject to much worse on TV than any video game. |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #34 by SeraphTC Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 10:48:22 AM | |
@29 @30 - no it isn't, unfortunately. It's illegal to SELL a game to an underage person. It's NOT illegal to buy it yourself and give it to them. The onus is on the seller, and selling.
It's not like Alcohol where the onus is on both the seller and the buyer, as the key term there is SUPPLY, not SELL. |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #35 by SeraphTC Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 10:55:14 AM | |
@33 - That statement is completely false. You think you turned out fine, nobody else does. ;) (kidding buddy! just teasing!)
In all seriousness, the fact that you turned out OK doesn't mean someone else would. More importantly, compare what you are able to do and the graphical quality involved in GTA4 to GTA3. Yeah I was playing Duke Nukem 3D when it came out, and I was underage. However, most of the 'gore' or 'nudity' was down to imagination as the graphical quality of the game was so low. The fact is, the better the technology gets, the better the graphics get, and the more games focus on being "realistic", the smaller the line gets between fantasy and reality.
Having grown up watching films and playing games whilst underage, I can say that I wouldn't be just giving the same kind of stuff to my kids. I'd always play/watch first and make a decision based on the actual content of each title and my kids maturity level. The rating would be a guideline.
The problem is the lack of education for parents/grandparents regarding the games they are buying for minors. |
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Forum Posts: 386 | Comment #36 by Caramel Cardinal Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 11:12:28 AM | |
| thing is, i know alot of places do id checks for 18 rated games atm, not alot do for pegi 16 ones mostly because people under 18 don't usually have a valid form of id, so switching away from bbfc will surley just mean more kid's get there parents to buy as they look underaged |
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Forum Posts: 73 | Comment #37 by Skid Row Trash Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 11:16:19 AM | |
Oh my god, this is fucking terrible....
What happens to all those Indie Devs? They work on a game, release it and go to jail because it's not mainstream enough to be rated?
What happens if an Indie Dev releases an awesome game and puts it for sale on steam, and a 12 year old buys it in Canada, but it's rated 14+? Does the guy go to jail? This is fucking bullshit.
I will always support games for everyone. I do not believe in game ratings, and my children will enjoy 18+ games at a young age much the same as I did. |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #38 by Agent Mantis Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 11:43:13 AM | |
| The problem isn't the ratings board, it's the parents. I refused to sell a customer a copy of COD because it was obviously for her 8ish year old son, I tried to explain why it wasn't suitable and I get nothing but abuse and a request to speak to my manager. Sadly this has happened several times. |
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Forum Posts: 3104 | Comment #39 by Bleeding Star Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 11:47:35 AM | |
| Its not illegal to sell an 18+ game to the parent, the person buying the game is over 18 and thats what matters. |
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Forum Posts: 285 | Comment #40 by ronnie42 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 11:59:24 AM | |
| I'm sorry if this offends but thats an insane law. People who go around creating self harm on others can less of a sentence. Somebody need to get their priorities sorted. I get why kids shouldn't play 18+ games but that should be the parents job to stop them. |
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Forum Posts: 209 | Comment #41 by TH3 XB0X G3N1U5 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 12:02:53 PM | |
@16: How would a 12 year old be buying a game off Amazon? (Or any online retailer?) Technically,they should not be able to, as they would not have a credit card or any other resource.
And it really is up to the parents to research and understand the rating system. Sure the parent can buy their 10 yr old CoD, or GTA, but they arent understanding why THEY have to buy it for their kid, as opposed to their kid buying it on their own. |
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Forum Posts: 436 | Comment #42 by plum Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 12:20:53 PM | |
| I find it sooo sad that you get 6 years in jail for selling a video game but you only get 2 to 3 for stabbing someone. So shocking |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #43 by UndeadBearCavalry Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 12:49:14 PM | |
A serious rating system is good and all, but it isn't going to stop parents from buying M-rated games like the next Call of Duty for their twelve year old kid.
Last November when I went to the MW3 midnight release at my local Gamestop I saw several parents with thirteen year olds or younger there. I was actually shocked to see parents taking their young ones to a game release on a school night. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #44 by Jammy 5000 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 01:05:45 PM | |
| @22 not going to make a different to me in terms of buying games because i'm 16 and i'm asked for ID for a 15 game which sucks because when i don't have ID no game 4 me. |
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Forum Posts: 219 | Comment #45 by TaiCoon Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 01:30:47 PM | |
Best news ever :)
That means the end for all the CoD-Kiddis in the UK :D
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #46 by Stoooooooie Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 01:34:31 PM | |
Not going to make much difference tbh. But it's going to make getting some games a pain in the butt for my 16 year old self. I can normally buy 18's without id when I don't shave for a bit. But I guess I won't be able to do that anymore :D
I think if anything they should make microsoft put age restrictions on online games. Its rediculous how an account with a player who has entered his age as 8, can frequently go on games such as COD. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #47 by The_Viper Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 01:36:36 PM | |
@5 That was a fail for these reasons:
Anyone who would be that annoyed by that spoiler deserves to be for not seeing it yet.
Consequently, whoever you ruin it for isn't a big fan so it doesn't matter.
Owned. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #48 by GeekSven Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 01:39:47 PM | |
| Maybe that's a bit too much... For example, The Amazing Spider-Man is rated 16+ , and you can't say the blood is gushing out of every single limb there, is it? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #49 by 232323jvc Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 03:30:47 PM | |
So, what are you in for?
Drug dealing, homicide, and sexual harassment, and you?
Sold a mature videogame to a teenager.
http://www.google.com.mx/search?q=watch%20out%20we%20got%20a%20badass&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=we4WUL6-FIjM9QTc6oDQDg&biw=1024&bih=690&sei=w-4WUJzRN5HwrAGd4oDYCQ#biv=i|0;d|qB4CTXEDbyW1dM: |
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Forum Posts: 331 | Comment #50 by Ali_P_84 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 03:59:42 PM | |
| I work for a retailer and apparently trading standards are already out and about enforcing the new laws. As far as I understand it's not just new games that it will be in force for as the logos are not changing, so all games regardless of age (even back to ELSPA rated games on the Mega Drive and SNES) are included. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #51 by xThrasher1984x Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 04:45:34 PM | |
| It doesn't really matter, the digital market is ever expanding and all the underage will do is get their parents to use their cards over the Internet. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #52 by creaper210 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 05:05:23 PM | |
Won't make any difference. Parents will buy the game. They did before. Doesn't really matter though, I'm fine with kids playing any games they want. Doesn't affect me whatsoever.
Also, I thought this was already in place? Years ago I've seen my local stores ask kids for an ID when buying a 17+ game. |
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Forum Posts: 69 | Comment #53 by Megis Eldurin Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 05:25:21 PM | |
| Sooo... Now PEGI alone gets to decide what games are fit for the market and what games are not... Sounds like a good place to start censoring, just like it's done with the film industry. |
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Forum Posts: 1121 | Comment #54 by Majica8 Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 05:29:07 PM | |
As #52 says, won't make a difference. Any kid who wants to buy a game that they aren't legally old enough to buy will just get their parents/big bro/misc adult family member to get it for them.
There is no way that would really work to stop underage people playing games they shouldn't. Wish there was because most online games would be a lot better without the whiney little kids on there, but there will always be a way round this type of thing. Doesn't work for blu-rays/DVDs, won't work for games. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #55 by Kitsune Goth Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 06:30:49 PM | |
| PEGI or any other law are no substitute for real parenting. Like many have stated, there's always a loophole. The parents are responsible, and any clueless git should know government regulation isn't the answer. Educate but not regulate. You're not going to fix irresponsible parents (i.e. you can't fix stupid). |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #56 by Enigk Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 06:37:00 PM | |
People moaning about under age kids playing certain games I have 2 words. Mortal kombat. There was controversy surrounding that in the day and I got my parents to get me it. The difference now is they play online and whine all the time rather than think the game is real and copy it.
Anyone who disagrees I will rip there head off with the spinal column attached no less - god damn under age flashbacks!
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #57 by NJ x BaNdiT Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 07:22:12 PM | |
| Obvoiously parents are still going to purchase games for their under-aged children. This is just another small step for getting mature rated games out childrens clutches. |
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Forum Posts: 495 | Comment #58 by AirborneRichard Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 04:43:03 AM | |
| This is some load of crap!! This system is already in use in the netherlands and germany for some years and even if a big sticker says *suitable for ages up 18 years and older* You still have parents buying those games for their kids aging 13 or 14! I seen it soooo many times in my local gamestores, There is this little kid that wants MW3 and the box clearly says age 16 the mom still goes and buys the game for her kid. Then you get what we facing atm so much, going on-line start to play a MP game and get on with kids around 12 to 14 yelling, shouting, trashtalking, when its not suppose to go their way! So much for the age control setting and warning stickers on gamecovers, if parents not even watch what they actualy buy their kids. I remember the days of the early xbox360,s and when playing gears of war, no kids no shouting,cursing just a joy playing, nowadays i not even enjoy MP that much anymore and when i do on-line i never use a headset anymore. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #59 by Dalt0222 Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 04:48:03 AM | |
| Do you know who i feel sorry for, the kids that wont be able to play these games because their parents are not over 18. |
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Forum Posts: 376 | Comment #60 by BosmaniaK Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 05:50:43 AM | |
"could face 2 years in jail and an unlimited fine"
unlimited fine? that's a lot of money (0.0) |
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Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #61 by MasterGazelle Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 06:31:15 AM | |
As a parent it often feels like parenthood itself is being criminalised. But one place I would welcome penalising parents is when they enable 10 years olds to play 18 rated games. I don't mind letting an 11 year old play a 12 rated game, subject to some common sense. I don't mind letting a 17 years old play some 18 games, subject to some common sense. Let's face it weve all seen some IP's rated lower than those with similar content because they were a Triple A like Halo. I'd be ok for my 14 year old to play Final Fantasy even though it's rated 16. But when parents enable their immature, impressionable, formative, children to play clearly unsuitable 18 rated, extremely violent, or overly sexual, or survival horror, etc games, that is when they should face prosecution.
Say for example, if an 18 title is provided to some one less than 16 years old then anyone involved in providing it, or allowing it, should be prosecuted. That includes retailers, parents, guardians, any other adults, people lending, parents knowingly failing to prevent them from playing it even if they didn't provide it.
Lesser rated titles are not so bad. still wouldn't give a 16 title to a ten year old. That should get the attention of child services. but the whole 18 rated thing really should be dealt with, with immeadiate criminal action, if the child is under 16 imo. |
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Forum Posts: 153 | Comment #62 by Lord Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 06:45:20 PM | |
My step daughter was playing bioshock when she was 6, she is 9 now and enjoys playing Borderlands and skyrim at the moment. she thinks cod is boring.
I have never heard her swear, I have never known her to be violent, she has never stolen a thing yet loves stealing in skyrim. |
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