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|Comment #1 by Hating |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:20:19 AM
|This is comming along quite nicely, i'm looking forward to hearing more closer to release date. |
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|Comment #2 by Solomon Fuere |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:28:23 AM
|Rather have an actual stealth game. |
Fuck you, Ubisoft.
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|Comment #3 by Shinnizle |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:34:40 AM
It's only NOT stealth if you don't play it stealthy. All Ubisoft has done with Conviction (and seems to be doing with Blacklist) is give you a choice: you can go guns blazing, or stealthy. Your choice. Therefore, if you bitch, it's your own goddamn fault, not anyone else's.
Now stop bitching.
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|Comment #4 by EDDS |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:41:27 AM
|Boycott this shit, no Ironside no sale. |
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|Comment #5 by Mittens2317 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 05:23:46 AM
|@3: Not sure I agree with you there, yes, there is always a stealth option, but the fact that the stealth mechanics seem to have been largely ignored, it's like the stealth option in Oblivion. |
Stealth games should be challenging, and you should be rewarded for taking the invisible route, like in previous games. Conviction was easy as fuck, and as long as you were crouched down and the screen was black & white, no one could see you. It posed no challenge whatsoever, and by the looks of it, Ubisoft are improving the action segments of their new take on the franchise, while the stealth element looks to be rotting away in the corner like a neglected maggot-infested dog.
I long for the day that a studio works on a stealth game that pays more attention to the enemy AI than anything else. It's possibly the most overlooked detail of a game, unless I'm wrong, in which case it must be impossible to get half right (I mean, let's face it, developers have had over 15 years to work on this shit!)
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|Comment #6 by Majica8 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 05:44:12 AM
|And again people bitch about this game being all action no stealth when we've seen barely 5-10 mins of gameplay. Wait until it comes out before you form an opinion on what the WHOLE game will be like. How do you know that you won't be able to do the bit in this trailer in a completely stealthy way? I can already see how it's possible. |
Nothing new to say about the trailer though, it still looks awesome :D
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|Comment #7 by crunchb3rry |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 06:10:32 AM
|Dear Ubisoft, if it weren't for Assassin's Creed, you'd all be paying for your dinner with food stamps. They destroyed both Prince Of Persia and Splinter Cell by getting overly-creative when fans just wanted an extension, not a revamp. Seriously, if AC3 took place in Italy again, this company would be selling itself to EA for a buck and change. Yeah, maybe you CAN play stealthily in this, but that's hardly the issue. Tomb Raider got it right. Splinter Cell has failed since Double Agent for the 360. At least there was Double Agent for the original Xbox as a swan song. |
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|Comment #8 by SweptbackFlame |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 06:30:44 AM
|As much as I dislike not having Mike Ironside voice Sam Fisher, I am willing to give this new guy Johnson a chance to see what he can do. Who Knows maybe it'll be better than most people though. But still it's no Mike Ironside either way. |
I am still gonna buy this because Splinter Cell was literally my childhood game.
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|Comment #9 by BiggD |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:09:20 AM
|People need to stop judging games so harshly, especially when this game has about another eight months of production. Yes, no Ironside is crushing and it made me totally uninterested, but I might as well give this game a chance since Splinter Cell is a great series overall and even if there's more action, I won't let that effect my purchase of what could be a great game. |
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|Comment #10 by Latias_On_Vox |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:18:57 AM
|He really needs to just equip a second pistol and get the whole Max Payne 3/Devil May Cry thing going. |
If they are going to improve the action segments, give it a great combat system like the one in Bayonetta or DMC. I want a Combo system too.
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|Comment #11 by Crimson Ridley |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:25:22 AM
|People can bitch about a series that started out as stealth over action - that actually punished you for going in all guns blazing - and has evolved into a series that favours action over stealth by giving you more tools of destruction and puts less emphasis on taking a silent approach. |
In my eyes, a splinter cell would be a person that infiltrates a company, or compound, or whatever silently, without raising suspicion that would be detrimental to the group that has sent the splinter cell to gather information, or kill a target. It would not involve the splinter cell running around like an unhinged commando playing out his fantasy of being Rambo, leaving chaos and destruction in his wake and still completing his mission and moving on to the next like no one will ever peg who did it.
I'm judging this game based mainly on the trailers and Conviction. Granted, Hitman's trailer gave people doubts about it's credibility as a stealth series, but that has been put to rest. This may go the same way. However, Ubisoft did turn Conviction into a shooter more than a stealth-em-up and have cemented doubts over the series that can only be rectified if they show Blacklist to be very much like Chaos Theory. As it is, I don't think they will. They've shown it pretty clear that Splinter Cell is turning into another shooter that we've seen so much of during the Xbox 360's life cycle.
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|Comment #12 by big daddy dr3y |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 08:01:33 AM
|he looks so younger!? |
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|Comment #13 by Crimson Ridley |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 08:11:39 AM
|@12 - He was 54 in Conviction which was set in 2011. I imagine this game will be set close to the time of release, so 2012, 2013, or 2014. That will make him 55, 56, or 57... |
I think they are trying to avoid the fact that eventually the guy is going to look older. Either that, or they can't remember how old he is.
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|Comment #14 by Spanish Assault |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 09:09:15 AM
|man this looks great....I need more $$$. |
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|Comment #15 by cheevo360 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 09:28:26 AM
|I loved stealth from original series. Modern years since COD 4 that almost lots of action and shooter games got modern setting of guns blazing! Getting tired of it lots (but fun for achievements). Blacklist look good and hopeful better then Conviction. So if Blacklist is full of guns blazing with less stealth like Conviction then it is must be last series for it before next series gonna have full stealth that form of original series. I hope Ubisoft listen to fans for next series of SC after Blacklist to bring back form stealth!! :) |
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|Comment #16 by hotdogenigma |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 09:35:45 AM
|@14 I agree I'm liking the way this looks so far. |
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|Comment #17 by I GameMaster l |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 09:59:17 AM
|I like the idea of a sam younger. I'd love to think of him like some kind of James bond who never gets old and always play the main role in a new and exciting adventure, but as a lot of people said before I'd wish they in fact return to the roots and made a stealth based game. |
another big con is no more Michael Ironside. he's practically the soul of Sam Fisher, but i'll try to be flexible in that aspect
(lol at 1:45 "it's a mushroom!")
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|Comment #18 by I GameMaster l |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 10:01:21 AM
|I hope they bring to xbox the Hd collection. |
I still play the original trilogy and I'll never get tired of it.
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|Comment #19 by AirborneRichard |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 01:01:32 PM
|Spinter Cell was always about the stealth approch and sinds then it got more and more action elements and direct assault options instead of keeping true to the original element and that was stealth. Not get me wrong i not got anything against action and the usual guns blazing part, but there plenty of other games already doing it. Splinter Cell not need that and it takes away what made this game original in the first place. |
Even so i def want to play this because it looks great and as a big fan of the series i def want to know where it goes. But hopefully Ubisoft not tries to overdo things and make this something like a modern day shooter kinda thing. In the E3 demo we seen parts from the conviction tagging system, silent kill one and you have the option to target a group of enemies quikly to clear rooms quik and fast. In itself not bad but it takes away alot of the stealth factor, well we will see in 2013 when this comes out what Ubisoft is heading for with Blacklight.
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|Comment #20 by hibsta1992 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:04:36 PM
|I loved Pop Up Video. |
OT can't wait for this game. Hopefully it'll have more stealth than in Conviction, by that I mean I hope you can do the mission and leave everyone alive like in the originals
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|Comment #21 by Shinnizle |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 04:38:50 PM
Have you even played Infiltration in Conviction? If you have, and you still think Conviction sucked, well then there's no hope for you.
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|Comment #22 by Mittens2317 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:21:25 PM
|Point, Conviction was good for the multiplayer stealth-wise. |
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|Comment #23 by Kaskade |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:36:41 PM
|@#7 I agree with you.Not a fan of the AC games and it seems that the AC series has killed the Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell series. |
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|Comment #24 by Kaskade |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:38:29 PM
|Also March 2013 is going to be a great month in gaming but hard on our wallets. GOW:Judgement and SC:Blacklist |
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|Comment #25 by Blue Thunder28 |
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 09:46:13 PM
|I loved the stealth in the previous games so much, and I also loved the action in Conviction.. So either way I'm very excited for this! |
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|Comment #26 by Venomized |
Friday, July 20, 2012 @ 05:58:48 AM
Conviction and most likely blacklist, will be nothing like the first 4 splintercells. They took away the stealth aspect of the game, which made it so fucking awesome. You must not have played the first 4. Sure, there is stealth in conviction, but in no way is it similar to the other games. You should try playing double agent or chaos theory (my favorite 2) and see the difference. If you can't see the difference after that, there is something wrong with you.
What @2 is implying is that ubisoft took away the stealth aspect of the game that made it different from other games, that made it brilliant. They didn't take stealth away completely, but they completely changed the way the game is played.
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|Comment #27 by K077 |
Friday, July 20, 2012 @ 09:04:56 PM
|NO IRONSIDE NO BUY |
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|Comment #28 by Shinnizle |
Saturday, July 21, 2012 @ 12:55:56 AM
For the record, I did play the first three games, and I played them on both the first Xbox and Steam (except Pandora Tomorrow, which isn't on Steam for some ass-backwards reason). I do own Double Agent on the 360, but I've never played it. I don't know why. Someday I'll get to it.
I never said there was no difference, I'm saying what Ubisoft did is give you more options. And more options is always good. I've always hated the parts, in the first SC games, where you couldn't kill anybody. Sure, I understand not triggering any alarms, but c'mon Lambert, lemme fucking kill someone if I want to. I like freedom, and that's what Conviction offered over any other Splinter Cell game. I can go stealthy all game long, mix it up, or go guns blazing. And to anyone saying Conviction's stealth mechanics are dull (i.e. Guards are blind and can't see you) I have two things to say.
1. Try Infiltration on Realistic without any gadgets. Guards see through everything.
2. From what I remember, in the first SC games, the mechanics weren't much better. My most vivid memory of that, is when I remembered failing a mission over and over again in Pandora Tomorrow where I was trying to sneak in behind some bushes, but a guard kept seeing me when he clearly couldn't, and I finally found another way to sneak past, which was probably the way "intended" by the developers. I hated that. Why can't I sneak past another way, when it clearly is a viable alternative is beyond me. It goes back to what I was saying about freedom.
Splinter Cell is fun, but Conviction was the most fun I ever had in SC since Spies vs Mercs in the online multiplayer of Pandora Tomorrow. I'm a co-op kind of guy, and Infiltration mode made my day every time I played it. Chaos Theory's co-op was good, but certainly lacking.