Forum Posts: 1194 | Comment #1 by UberPirateNinja Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:09:11 PM | |
| ironside IS sam fisher! |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #2 by whodeypimp Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:13:10 PM | |
| Can't wait for this game, it's going be pretty good. I'm hoping it has multiplayer, co-op. |
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Forum Posts: 662 | Comment #3 by DiamondD Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:13:12 PM | |
| No Ironside, no buy! Just kidding, been a big fan since the original trilogy (currently playing the collection on PS3) and have high hopes for this one too. |
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Forum Posts: 231 | Comment #4 by Infomouse Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:13:53 PM | |
| A Sam Fisher not voiced by Ironside is a Splinter Cell game I won't play. |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #5 by Mr Jonnysniper Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:14:21 PM | |
| Removing Ironside? Im sick of seeing companies destroying franchise. Im gonna fucking smash my skull into the garden patio brb. |
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Forum Posts: 423 | Comment #6 by BLQQDCQRE Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:14:50 PM | |
| No Ironside no buy. I will still buy it though. :( |
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Forum Posts: 1000 | Comment #7 by Dr Popodopolus Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:16:48 PM | |
| No Iron Man, no buy :[ |
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Forum Posts: 382 | Comment #8 by lid Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:20:49 PM | |
| RIP Splinter Cell 2002-2012. Good night sweet prince |
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Forum Posts: 13 | Comment #9 by LeeJ2512 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:22:01 PM | |
| I want to see a fight between Sam Fisher, Agent 47 and Batman. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #10 by theTRUESTvine Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:24:32 PM | |
Ironside's voice was one of the little things that made Splinter Cell great.
Not sure about this... |
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Forum Posts: 3598 | Comment #11 by The BiggD Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:30:48 PM | |
| without Ironside, it won't be the same. however, I'll still get it and stay true to the series since I have every other one. |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #12 by Cookies1560 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:33:20 PM | |
| This game NEEDS Michael Ironside, his voice absolutely makes the character. Also, I miss Sam Fishers beard. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #13 by parallelTom555 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:34:48 PM | |
| The gameplay demo seemed far too action orientated for a Splinter Cell game which put me off. And now Ironside isn't voicing Fisher? No Ubisoft, you shall not receive my funds. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #14 by Damodar Thade Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:37:37 PM | |
| No ironside means no sam means me no play. |
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Forum Posts: 3110 | Comment #15 by EliteShadowMan Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:40:19 PM | |
| Idk if i want this now. You don't just fucking change actors after 5 games. Screw you Ubisoft. |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #16 by Unalive3 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:42:06 PM | |
| Couldn't they have done a Bourne change and kept Sam out... or at least his voice. Without Ironside I feel like Sam Fisher will be a new character anyway. My thoughts are they could've had some new agent and Fisher was his teacher/target or something thus preserving Ironside. |
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Forum Posts: 3110 | Comment #17 by EliteShadowMan Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:47:07 PM | |
| @16 not a bad idea at all. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #18 by Californigus Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:47:14 PM | |
In Darth Vader's voice:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
:( |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #19 by Jackse7en Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:49:30 PM | |
OMG! So much bloody crying. For fuck sake even Ironside himself approves and yet little fan boys can't accept it.
On track, the video looks real good and hopefully the action seen is something we will be able to do ourselves. but is the game a prequel because same looks 20years younger. Not sure if its just information I've missed elsewhere.
Splinter cell blacklist will be getting my money, day one :D |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #20 by Girl Shoots Boy Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 07:50:15 PM | |
They should have just introduced a new main character and kept Sam as the voice in his ear.
Also, ridiculously excited at the inclusion of Spy Vs Merc, lets hope they return it to its glorious roots rather than proving they learnt nothing from Double Agent. |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #21 by Gazzoid Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:10:00 PM | |
| Not interested. The series is just not the same anymore. It's too fast paced and Michael Ironside isn't in it! |
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Forum Posts: 593 | Comment #22 by a7x4lyf3 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:17:12 PM | |
| I'm probably still going to pick this up on day one, but it's going to be so weird hearing Fisher speak without Ironside... |
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Forum Posts: 533 | Comment #23 by Tonic24k Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:22:21 PM | |
| Why is everyone fixated on one ideal? Diversify, people. I like Ironside, too, but he's not going to live for eternity. Christopher Reeves was the best Superman but that doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy Henry Cavill. Adapt and overcome, you weinies. |
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Forum Posts: 530 | Comment #24 by o D M C o Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:23:13 PM | |
| I adored the first 3 SC's on the original xbox, but the 4th and 5th games were definitely a step away from what I used to enjoy so much. Im sure Ill get this, but I know nothing in this new game will compare to knocking out every enemy in the level and piling all of there bodies into one darkened corner of the map. I was gutted when I realised you could hide bodies in Conviction, it genuinely ruined the game for me... what can I say, I enjoy fiddling with corpses |
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Forum Posts: 530 | Comment #25 by o D M C o Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:24:13 PM | |
| shoulve been 'couldnt hide bodies in Conviction' |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #26 by hibsta1992 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:31:31 PM | |
| Can I preorder that "Upper Echelon" in the US? That would be awesome, I mean come on the goggles are gold |
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Forum Posts: 37 | Comment #27 by Cobra034 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:32:09 PM | |
| It doesn't make sense that a sequel would make a character look and sound younger. I'd be okay with this if it was a prequel, but this doesn't make any damn sense. Sam Fisher is an older guy, and they turned him into a kid. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #28 by N7JaS Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:43:50 PM | |
| First of all...stop complaining. It's just like James Bond. Actors can only do it for so long. Second read this http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/05/e3-2012-why-michael-ironside-wont-return-for-splinter-cell-blacklist |
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Forum Posts: 71 | Comment #29 by Dark Knight1990 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 08:44:51 PM | |
| I have no doubt that this will be a good game, but without Michael Ironside it went from a day-one buy to a clearance bin pick up for me. He's the biggest reason I enjoyed the past two games. |
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Forum Posts: 584 | Comment #30 by Captain Urahara Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 09:09:35 PM | |
| Well Splinter Cell was good while it lasted. Shame it had to come to this. Blacklist is only a hollow shell of past Splinter Cell games. |
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Forum Posts: 453 | Comment #31 by DamagedWill Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 09:21:53 PM | |
That's saddening. But Michael Ironside never really wanted to play Sam in the first place. He is a HUGE pacifist and really didn't like the level of violence in the games. It was because of him that they added the morality choices you first saw in Pandora Tomorrow because he wanted to add more to the character.
I'll still play the game, but I'll miss Ironside. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #32 by XX HEH8ME XX Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 09:30:05 PM | |
I guess theyre going for a new radical change for a new splinter cell.
They should go get Viper.
Ironside will be missed. |
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Forum Posts: 160 | Comment #33 by thisispreston Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 09:50:59 PM | |
| i'll just turn the voice volume to 0, turn subtitles on and do Ironside's voice in my head |
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Forum Posts: 712 | Comment #34 by Bajan Elite Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 10:12:23 PM | |
| I'm still excited for this game regardless. I will be preordering and getting this day one. |
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Forum Posts: 199 | Comment #35 by Night45Fox Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 10:23:42 PM | |
| With Ironside removed I doubt I will be getting this anywhere near release. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #36 by DirtDiver31160 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 10:47:43 PM | |
Does Sam Fischer have Benjamin Button disease? It's like he's getting younger with each game.
Quit moaning about the loss of Ironside. The man doesn't want to do it. The role is too physical. I know, people aging is SO unfair.
It's like James Bond changing from Sean Connerey to Daniel Craig. Yes, everybody wants the original, but he got old and it's time to pass the torch.
If you ARE true SC fans like you claim, then it shouldn't matter who voices the role as long as they do a good job. |
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Forum Posts: 27 | Comment #37 by DirtDiver31160 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 10:57:26 PM | |
Guess I wasn't the only one to think of the Bond example. Now I just look like a dick that copies and recombined other people's comments.
Just replace the Bond reference with the different actors that played John Clark in the various Clancey novel movie adaptations. Right, too obscure. Shit, I got nothing.
Just give it a chance, you may be surprised like that time you tried asparagus even though it smelled funny and it turns out you liked it. |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #38 by Quanster57 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 11:21:58 PM | |
I'm not sure about this one. SC:C didn't feel like a Splinter Cell game. I loved the first three, and thought Double Agent was fairly decent. Conviction was a good game on its own, but I felt that it was a major letdown as a Splinter Cell game.
So far, Blacklist looks too similar to Conviction, and the fact that Ironside is no longer voicing Fisher adds more disappointment to the mix. I probably won't buy this game, but it may be worth a rental or a bargain bin buy. |
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Forum Posts: 25 | Comment #39 by trickyrebel06 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 11:22:42 PM | |
@37
I hate asparagus. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #40 by Sculli69 Monday, June 04, 2012 @ 11:44:13 PM | |
| Won't be the same without Michael Ironside |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #41 by Gillomee Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 12:37:29 AM | |
A part of me just died...
But it's still a day one buy :P
Wish they'd go back to the good ol' Splinter Cell though, I mean Conviction was good but it's not Splinter Cell. To much action, not enough stealth. |
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Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #42 by Eoth Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 01:48:09 AM | |
Bah Michael Ironside made Sam Fisher stand out from the rest of the game action heroes. The new guy might be good but his voice is too generic. They might as well have asked Nolan North to do it.
Game looks good though, a little much in the daylight for my taste so far. |
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Forum Posts: 122 | Comment #43 by Akatsuki Sensor Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 02:05:46 AM | |
| So glad they're brining back the classic mode from Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Spy vs Merc. I loved that to bits, so happy when I heard they're brining it back. No idea why they kept it out of Conviction :/ |
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Forum Posts: 479 | Comment #44 by cutchinz Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 02:36:00 AM | |
| Come on guys, let's at least give this guy a chance. Don't get me wrong, I'm as sad about Ironside leaving as anybody here, but this Eric Johnson at least looks like he's trying his best. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #45 by CaptChimpTastic Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 02:42:22 AM | |
| No Ironside No Good! |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #46 by Chainsaw Chunk Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 02:52:45 AM | |
| Ubisoft know how much of a bollock they have dropped by having Ironside himself explain to the fans, what a crock |
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Forum Posts: 53 | Comment #47 by Death shrimp X Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 03:43:49 AM | |
| No Ironhide? |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #48 by N7JaS Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 03:53:44 AM | |
| @43 Splinter Cell Chaos Theory started Spy v Merc and that was absolutely amazing. I hope it's more like that and less like double agent |
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Forum Posts: 589 | Comment #49 by HorsemanOfWar16 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 04:09:15 AM | |
Awesomeness! Cant wait for BLACKLIST!
IRONSIDE WILL ALWAYS BE FISHER! |
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Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #50 by DakotaThrice Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 04:18:14 AM | |
The amount of asshats and fagots in here getting butthurt over a VA change is ridiculous. Yes, Ironside was the shit. Yes, it'll be strange without him after so long. Yes, it'll still be Sam Fisher. Yes, I'll still buy the game and probably day one.
NO, it won't make the slightest fucking difference to the gameplay |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #51 by Jackse7en Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 04:55:48 AM | |
Thank god that there are at least a few people on here who actually consider themselves Splinter Cell fans and are able to see past a voice over change.
I wonder though, how many whingers will stealthily shimmy their way to their nearest game store and pick this up day one.
Ironside was a voice, yes a great one, but his voice did not make the series, it is the countless hours put into them by the hard working folks Ubisoft that made all of the games absolute must haves. |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #52 by Assasin169 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:06:13 AM | |
| Its not Splinter Cell without Michael. Never mind the fact that Sams now head of Third Echelon and still working in the field. Just silly. |
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Forum Posts: 838 | Comment #53 by jpg30 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:15:43 AM | |
i like the splinter cell games and while it is strange not having ironside doing the voice no way will it stop me playing the game as it looks amazing, ironside himself seems happy enough to give advice to the guy playing sam.
the game has gone in a new direction by having the voice done while acting out the scenes in one motion rather than doing a voice over, while i like ironside and he is sam fisher i think people are making too much of a big deal over this.
only my opinion though. |
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Forum Posts: 39 | Comment #54 by MasterGazelle Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:24:45 AM | |
| No Ironside=No Fisher. They should've made a new main character to go with the change of voice talent. Sam heads Third Echelon & new protege works in the field would make sense. The game still looks great though. |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #55 by mag_sithlord Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:40:39 AM | |
| IRONSIDE!! |
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Forum Posts: 54 | Comment #56 by McKnives Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 06:29:34 AM | |
| Having no ironside is like a mgs game without david hayter. Screw you benny! |
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Forum Posts: 1650 | Comment #57 by Rapturous Rich Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 06:35:54 AM | |
Ironside MADE Fisher! He has such a dry sense of humour and his little nuances added so much to a character that could have been as bland, shallow and unexciting as a bowl of carrots...
I'll still play this but I won't for an instant believe I'm playing as Sam Fisher. |
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Forum Posts: 1650 | Comment #58 by Rapturous Rich Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 06:38:50 AM | |
| Also, was that Vic Coste on overwatch? It'll be good to see him back. |
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Forum Posts: 25 | Comment #59 by DarthTrakd Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 07:14:37 AM | |
| Sham that Ironside is not doing Sam but good to see he is still involved in the process. |
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Forum Posts: 575 | Comment #60 by Hurricane Of 87 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 07:14:42 AM | |
#28: That story was awful and doesn't explain why they couldn't have a younger actor do the mo-cap and Ironside still do the voice. IGN blow.
I'm fine with the change in voice actor as long as the quality remains high. |
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Forum Posts: 743 | Comment #61 by l.maciver Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 07:29:11 AM | |
| NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, ironside we will miss you. |
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Forum Posts: 32 | Comment #62 by DDShadow88 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 08:48:28 AM | |
@51 I guarantee that many of the people claiming that they're not buying Blacklist because MI is gone will have the game in their Recently Played on launch day. That's how hypocritical haters are.
I agree that Ironside made Fisher what he was and that trying to replace him is a tall order, but I'm willing to give Ubisoft a chance with this because I still think they're one of the better game developers around and I doubt they would have made a decision like this just to piss off a bunch of imbecilic cry babies. They know what they're doing. |
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Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #63 by Eoth Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 09:15:46 AM | |
@52 He's not the head of Third Echelon, he is head of Fourth Echelon.
And yes the naming is pretty poor it's a different agency. Basicly Sam after Conviction says "Never again you're all a bunch of idiots"
The in this game the President says: "Pretty please?"
And Sam says: "Only if I can make the team and lead it. It's my way or the Highway! And I will name it.... Fourth Echelon" |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #64 by gambit444 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 09:16:52 AM | |
| "Ubisoft needed an actor capable of motion capture and performance." games have to move forward. Ironside understood this, why can't the haters? |
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Forum Posts: 74 | Comment #65 by asphyxiate Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 11:03:30 AM | |
| Wow... Not buying a game in a series you enjoy because of a VA change? That is truly sad. No one is denying it will be extremely odd without Ironside, but totally ignoring the game because of that? Gamers these days are undoubtedly some of the most entitled little whiners on the planet. |
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Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #66 by sleath123 Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 11:57:51 AM | |
| @43 @48. Your both wrong, spies vs mercs was started on sc:pandora tommorow, the second one, this was perfect. The next game was chaos theory which was very similar but many complained about unbalancing as the mercs had extra tricks this time, then was double agent which was still good but wasn't as good as either previous games for mp, conviction then came along with no mp spy's vs mercs and shit on all the good work done by all previous, this series peaked at pandorra tommorow (sc2) and has been declining slowly ever since, they need to look at the older titles and recapture the glory cos conviction was a shoddy sc |
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Forum Posts: 762 | Comment #67 by Lord of Fate Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 01:22:03 PM | |
| I agree with #1...and I think they should close off the series while they've done good (since they don't have Ironside anymore). Don't get me wrong, this is one of my favorite games period, but that's exactly why it's not going to be the same. It's like owning a Honda NSX all your life then someone telling you you have to switch to the Acura NSX.... o.O |
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Forum Posts: 762 | Comment #68 by Lord of Fate Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 01:28:56 PM | |
| The only way I might accept it is if it's about Fisher's time as a SEAL before the NSA, back when he was younger. Otherwise they need to scrap Fisher and choose new characters or move on. It's like that guy who plays the Human Torch in the Fantastic Four films and who also plays Captain America (I think he was awesome as torch but horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible pick for Cap). A big W-T-F in my opinion; even though it's not the same type of comics, it's just not 'believable'. |
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Forum Posts: 762 | Comment #69 by Lord of Fate Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 01:30:05 PM | |
| If you take away the sense of realism, it just screws the whole thing up... |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #70 by N7JaS Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 02:03:30 PM | |
| Wow people honestly need to chill. People are crying over a voice actor. Yes I loved Ironside, but I'm not pissed that they changed voice actors. Yes it's a little sad but WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER SPLINTER CELL GAME!! I swear people have become so uptight. ME3, diablo, now splinter cell...if you demand so damn much then please make an amazing game since you know everything |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #71 by RoBMooN Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:32:04 PM | |
Wow people are allowed to voice their opinion about a VA change alright. You all have to admit, the relaism is lacking e.g. firstly, sam sounds/looks younger but this is apperntly a sequal due to the existance of fourth echelon and him being the leader of said group. Secondly, a field operative and the leader, this would never happen.lastly, This game as stated above screws with everthing Conviction stated at the end about sam never going back! Hopefully they remake this as a prequel and any further planned sequals should see Sam/Ironside as the advisor of a new field operative.
P.s. this is all my opinion, so you all have a nice day now. I will also still buy this game but we all know in our heart of hearts it can and will not be the same, thankyou |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #72 by Sgt Foggy Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:38:35 PM | |
| Not happy about this. Why not just get Ironside to voice afterwards? |
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Forum Posts: 16 | Comment #73 by K1NG NATHAN Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 05:40:03 PM | |
| this coupled with the gameplay videos are amazing, cannot wait for this, as i love conviction. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #74 by N7JaS Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 06:33:19 PM | |
| @71 I have no problem about them voicing their opinion but I think it is stupid that people are saying they are not going to buy this game because of a va change or state that it will suck. Look at conviction. Everyone freaked out because of the new direction they took and what happened...it was awesome |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #75 by RoBMooN Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 07:08:19 PM | |
| @74 well everyone has their own degrees of fandom I can see where they are coming from though and contrary to popular belief i do believe that Ironside made Sam Fisher who he was but I just never thought that video game voice actors would ever be bound by the same constraints that they are in the film industry i.e. James Bond Franchise are forced to change actors. I just wish there was a way to keep the legend and still maintain this new direction :) |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #76 by N7JaS Tuesday, June 05, 2012 @ 10:25:39 PM | |
| @75 well put man. I just think they had to with the way they were designing splinter cell. Either way I am looking really forward to it |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #77 by Ball1e Wednesday, June 06, 2012 @ 08:27:12 AM | |
| Spies vs Mercs. Needs to be the Chaos Theory multiplayer and not the sh*te they had in double agent. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #78 by KentRaFul Wednesday, June 06, 2012 @ 01:28:51 PM | |
| You crybabies need to buck up and accept the fact that voice work doesn't make a game. GAMEplay does.Yes, Ironside was amazing at playing same. From that video though, you could see they are using new techniques to the franchise that involved more physical work. Ironside, bless him, is too old to do it. This new guy isn't bad, I hardly could tell the difference. PLus, Spies Vs. Mercenaries is back!!! That's amazing. So just because you don't have your preferred voice actor, you're going to miss out on a great game? Good riddance. I'll have fun playing it, so will countless others who care about what REALLY matters in a game. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #79 by wickedclowns95 Thursday, June 07, 2012 @ 06:20:45 PM | |
| It sucks to see that Michael Ironside won't be the voice of Sam Fisher any longer but I still have high hopes for this game. RIP Ironside Fisher. |
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Forum Posts: 4 | Comment #80 by Carloz Brown Friday, June 08, 2012 @ 09:47:52 PM | |
| No Ironside??? It's like Star Wars without light sables |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #81 by XxWickeDxX Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 11:30:38 AM | |
| Out with the old in with the new, Splintercell has always been a great franchise, and even though I sucked at all of them except for conviction, I was, and still am a loyal fan. I am bummed that Ironside won't be doing the voice of Sam, but it isn't a deal breaker, and at least sam still looks like Sam, the plot of the game seems like it'll be amazing, and the gameplay looks fast fluid and fun. Nothing ever stays the same guys, why would you pay for the same game you bought a year or two back? If you don't like it, you can always go play ghost recon, or play R6: Patriots when it comes out. Hell maybe even some good ol' vegas 2. |
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