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The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings

The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings - What We Want From The Sequel
Written Wednesday, April 25, 2012 By Lee Bradley
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The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings is ace. Killer dialogue, memorable characters, a courageous splintering storyline and some wonderful incidental details ensure that it’s an RPG unlike anything you’ve ever played. But it’s not perfect.

Despite our eternal love for what developers CD Projekt RED have created, we reckon there’s a few areas that could be improved. So strap on your double sword holder, slip into a meditative state and read on for what X360A wants from the next Witcher game. Y’know, if there is one.

TELL IT TO ME STRAIGHT

The Witcher 2 struggles to tell a meaningful story. It’s chuffing great in parts, don’t get us wrong, but it’s also a little unfocused. The next Witcher game needs to address this.

Part of the issue is that CD Projekt RED chuck you into the middle of a story that’s already underway. It is a sequel after all, so there’s not much they can do about that. But some of the basics are overlooked. The next Witcher game needs to let the conflict play out to a conclusion. It needs a proper structure, with a beginning, a middle and an end. And Geralt needs to be at the centre of it.

If you take Shepard away from Mass Effect, then the whole galaxy dies. If you take The Prisoner away from Skyrim, then the world will be destroyed. Take Geralt away from The Witcher 2 and Temeria’s little game of thrones would continue without him. The stakes need to be higher.

In the next Witcher game everything should revolve around Geralt. He needs to be the hero and the saviour, the villain and the betrayer. Success or failure should hinge on his every fight and conversation. He needs to be the story. Andrzej Sapkowski wrote two short story collections and five novels about Geralt. CD Projekt RED should use that to their advantage.


MORE WITCHERING

In the author’s homeland of Poland, Sapkowski is a big deal, outselling the likes of Michael Crichton and Steven King. Thanks to this The Witcher is pretty much a household name. So in the next Witcher game, we’d like to spend more time being a witcher.

A quick recap: Witchers are mutated monster hunters with supernatural reflexes and skills, capable of magic and skilled with a sword. It is their role in life to roam from town to town, slaying magical beasts and giant nasties. Yet in The Witcher 2 there are only a few occasions for you to execute your professional badassery. And that’s a shame.

Now, we’re not suggesting that CD Projekt RED turn The Witcher 3 into Monster Hunter, but that doesn’t mean we don’t want to hunt monsters. Geralt’s profession is tailor made for videogames. It’s perfect! So while we don’t mind getting wrapped up in Temeria’s various squabbles, lets also remember that sticking a silver sword in big ugly brutes is what Geralt does best.

And we mean BIG ugly brutes too. Less of those piddly little Endrega things and more of the gargantuan bosses; Temeria’s Kayrans, Draugs and Dragons. Bring them on and let them taste our wrath! Or something.

LIKE A BOSS

Right. If there’s going to be more monster killing in the next Witcher game, then the boss battles are going to have to improve. Because, let’s be honest, in The Witcher 2 they’re pretty mediocre.

We’re trying not to spoil anything, but The Witcher 2‘s big bosses fall into two familiar camps. Most just involve twatting a monster over the head for longer than usual while using your shield spell thingy, while another involves hitting weak points, watching an “ouch” animation, then doing it all over again. Snore.

We’d like to see the next Witcher game take some tips from Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. Have big, nasty, fearsome bosses lurking in the shadows of each area. Make them huge and scary and genuinely dangerous. Hell, even make some of them out of bounds until you have the strength or abilities to tackle them. Let us build up to the fights, learn battle tactics from the harassed locals, then go plunging in...

If CD Projekt RED can pull off monster hunting properly, then when we strut away from a battle with some massive ugly thing’s eyeball as a trophy, we’ll truly feel like a witcher. And it doesn’t get much more badass than that.

TRAVELLING TALES 

The Witcher 2 is a big game with plenty of content. But it’s also deceptively small. Each of the key areas are not linked in any way, they’re essentially hubs with environmentally varied surrounding areas. And that’s fine. But we want CD Projekt RED to make it bigger.

Now, we don’t want the next Witcher game to tackle Skyrim in terms of scale. That would be insane. Neither do we want the size of the environment to necessitate tile-based level design. The Witcher 2’s handcrafted caves and towns are part of its appeal. But if we’re roaming around as a lone wolf witcher, then let the world have some scope and let us feel like we’re exploring within it.

As a result of this we’re going to need transport. Namely: a horse. In the Witcher stories Geralt always travels with a horse called Roach (not to be confused with Vernon Roche, the commander of the Blue Stripes). They're not always the same horse, but they always have the same name. Don’t ask why. In the next game we reckon CD Projekt RED should bring Roach along for the ride.

Oh, and a better map please. The Witcher 2’s map stunk the place up like warm Kayran dung.

So there you have it, just a few things we would like to see addressed in the next Witcher game. It’s already pretty amazing, but with a few tweaks it could be insanely awesomely amazing! Which is better, obviously. All we need to do now is cross our fingers and hope that CD Projekt RED actually make one.

But what do you think? Would these changes ruin The Witcher completely? Are we giant idiots that should never be let near a keyboard again? What changes would you bring to the threequel? Let us know in the comments.




 
 

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Comment #1 by xxshadowboaxx
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:32:42 PM
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well i'll be a son of a witch, was looking forward to this but seems a tad disappointing now :(


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Comment #2 by Breeding
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:36:49 PM
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Don't be. It's an awesome game. The author seems to like poking at good rpg's to make them sound bad.(KoA:R Review?)


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Comment #3 by LeeBradley [STAFF]
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:38:56 PM
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Noo, you misunderstand. I gave The Witcher 90. It's brilliant and you should buy it. This is just a chat about what we'd like to see in the sequel.


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Comment #4 by Gackt
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:42:17 PM
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I couldn't get past the beginning because my main quest kept glitching and I could not complete it :( lol


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Comment #6 by cheevo360
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:49:09 PM
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The Witcher 2 is one of best action role-playing games moment. :):)

Beautiful game world with lots of skills. :):):)

Look forward The Witcher 3 and my believe this will on next generation console with PC version :)


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Comment #7 by cheevo360
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:51:19 PM
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#4 damn it. My game have no glitched. Tried reload savegame or restart new game. :):)


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Comment #8 by Webb [STAFF]
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 08:57:58 PM
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@#2 - The intro alone says NOTHING that insinuates anything like that. Heck, the first sentence is contrary to whatever you just said. Welcome to the world of constructive criticism.


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Comment #9 by ThaMyth
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:01:08 PM
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couldnt have said this better, agree completely


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Comment #10 by jung4ever
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:04:35 PM
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I agree with most of the authors points. It is a GREAT game-but yeah, new map and more monsters please.


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Comment #11 by Zumato
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 09:35:51 PM
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The bosses were the biggest disappointment for me. Hell, a group of harpies is more dangerous than any of them. I would also like to see an improvement in the inventory/storage/crafting systems in the future titles.





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Comment #12 by CamoChris
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:02:45 PM
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I agree with most of this. Although I'm not sure about some of the comments about the story, I like the fact that everything doesn't revolve around Geralt.

Something I would add would be a better in-game economy, it didn't seem fair to me that I would only get 20 Orens for something the merchant would be selling for 400+.


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Comment #13 by Vindicator51
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:17:38 PM
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I just can't take it seriously when people complain about the map. There are no problems with it, but maybe the people using it.


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Comment #14 by DarkKnightKefka
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:47:35 PM
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love this game. i really wish they would bring the first one to X360


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Comment #15 by Shiftie
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:47:37 PM
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I think the story in the Witcher seemed to be unfocused because it talked a lot about what I think we will see in the next game, some of which was already confirmed by the cinematic at the end of the game. The Great Hunt, Nilfgaard and discrimination against mutants like Geralt and witches (not witchers :P) as a whole. I'm already very excited lol...


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Comment #16 by bearmod
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:01:00 PM
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I'm with #14. I want to play this but I don't really like playing games out of order so I'm hoping for a console release of the first one. It doesn't even have to be a retail release, they could do something similar to what Crytek did with Crysis 1 and just release it as download only.


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Comment #17 by CelticWarriorDB
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 11:32:01 PM
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I didn't see this in the article, so I might be alone in this, but the one thing that is pissing me off about the game right now is the horrible in game radar. I doesn't factor in floor leveling, or anything else, so you have no idea where you're supposed to be sometime.


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Comment #18 by Saracin
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 12:16:55 AM
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@16 Well as long as the Witcher 2 is successful you might still see the first one released at some point. They only cancelled working on it was because it was more cost effective to just make a sequel that could be designed with a controller in mind right off. Heck, when they would demo the game they did it while using a 360 controller lol.

So yeah, I'd expect them to attempt a Witcher 1 360 release sometime in the near future and it would probably be a retail release.


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Comment #19 by Godfather93a
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 01:14:14 AM
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Take Shepard out of Mass Effect & the galaxy dies lol, the galaxy died anyway hahaha.


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Comment #20 by jackofnothing
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 02:07:47 AM
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i have to disagree geralt works because he is just one player in a much larger picture. Witcher isn't about end of the world apocalyse events.


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Comment #21 by marzwoody
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 02:58:11 AM
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I disagree with the first idea you make that everything shouldn't revolve around Geralt that's a terrible idea, everything shouldn't just revolve around one character there's a story with history and lore also other characters and geralt is just thrown in the middle of off all this. he doesn't need to be the hero or villain this isn't fable its the witcher (did you even play the game) there's no good or bad its a "realistic" grey area, where you have to decide whats good or bad. and this makes it so unique from any other game. what your basically saying is you want the witcher to be like every other generic game on the market? no. the rest of points i agree with you, but there's nothing wrong with the map just the way its designed cant take many shortcuts have to take one pathway to jump down places, cant place markers on the map cant swim etc. also simpler menus and improve the combat system sometimes its way to easy other times no matter what you do you cant beat enemy's because they kill you within three hits and block everything its ridiculous i really feel the game takes no skill because it just spikes up and down in "difficulty" try completing 40 levels of arena without dying for the achievement last man standing and you'll see exactly what i mean and i played on "easy" good luck with that lol.


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Comment #22 by marzwoody
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 03:01:46 AM
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in the first line of the comment i meant "should"


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Comment #23 by lordskorrkeeper
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 04:30:22 AM
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The Witcher 2 is amazing.I really want a third.


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Comment #24 by spiralgrant
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 04:35:14 AM
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i enjoyed this game on my 3rd play through to mop up 4 achivments i missed :/


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Comment #26 by Ereaser NL
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 05:10:32 AM
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@2 imo that was a horrible RPG :p


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Comment #27 by Frankie Godskin
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 08:46:12 AM
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@21: I agree with you and disagree with the article; Geralt doesn't need to be the hero. Also, the boss battles don't need to be bigger, as boss battles are shoehorned into video games and are a relic of times past. And the Monsters were fine in this game. More variety would have been ok, but I'm not complaining.

I approached Witcher 2 with skepticism and it turned out to be one of my favorite games of this generation. I'm impressed with every aspect of it, from the writing and plot to the world design and combat. It's a fantastic game. The author of this piece wants to dilute that and make Witcher 2 like every other game he can think of.

Note that nothing Lee suggests is an original thought: he's just cribbing ideas from other games. He wants more creatures and bigger bosses and to be more of a Hero. Well, there are 700 games like that out there already, so take your pick and keep your regurgitated ideas away from my Witcher.


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Comment #28 by Wing X Custom
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 09:07:31 AM
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I dont see what taking away oneof the things that makes this game unique would do for a nice series like this. Its supposed to be this way. These events are bigger than geralt and so is the political game. He can affect it to a fair degree, not dominate the kingdoms. He strikes me as more of an everyman because of this and his role as a Witcher. He tries not to involve himself as much as possible in political affairs. I dont think turning him into a more boring shepard or prisoner clone and taking away what makes him interesting and unique in the first place is whats needed. I dont need an over abundance of grandness or epicness in scale in In the main character or hero's role in the story as lng as they do just that, and tell a good story. I'd prefer they maintained his sorely needed original personality in a market where were mouthfed master chiefs and krato's all the time.


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Comment #29 by LeeBradley [STAFF]
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 10:21:49 AM
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@21, @27, @28

These are all great points. Many of the areas for improvement I talk about make The Witcher 2 so unique. It's just not like anything else. I'm writing something about that now actually, but more on that later...

In the meantime, what would YOU lot like to see from the sequel then? More of the same? Tell me, I'm genuinely interested.


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Comment #30 by ViNyLek
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 11:15:40 AM
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Shit people, maybe you should be at the helm of production of next game. I don't even understand how such an atrocity got so many high scores LOL.

Seriously though, stop nitpicking, game is good as it is, sure it could be better, but which game couldn't?


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Comment #31 by marzwoody
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 11:51:52 AM
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@29 i said what i wanted the from the series in my first comment @30 nitpicking you click on something called what we want from the sequel what do you expect?


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Comment #32 by Zumato
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 11:53:24 AM
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@30

Most of us enjoy this game, we're only discussing things that we would like to see improved in the next installment.


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Comment #33 by ThecAtRetuRns
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 01:44:32 PM
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I would very much like to see maybe a video or a series of journal entries on events from the witcher 1 for those who haven't played it. I know this sounds lazy but for someone who doesn't have a decent enough computer to play the witcher 1 and went out and bought the witcher 2 (with which I am very satisfied) , being dropped into an ongoing storyline as the author mentioned is a bit hard to get stuck into.


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Comment #34 by ChinaPig
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 01:59:41 PM
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It's pretty damn concrete information that there's going to be a third one when the last achievement in the game is called "to be continued...".


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Comment #35 by kpheg5953
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 05:49:59 PM
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The author mentions that if you take Dovakhin out of Skyrim, it isn't the same game...I'm a little confused by this because the main character of Skyrim doesn't have a personality, or any set skills or traits. He or she is an avatar of sorts for the player rather than a character in a traditional sense...I think that you could remove he/she from the world of Skyrim and Skyrim would go on with out him/her.

In my opinion, Geralt is a better character and more crucial to the story of his game because he is a more fleshed out sort of character. He has a back story, relationships that pre-date the games, he is known is his land for his hardiness, skill and aura. He has power over people just because he is who he is...

These are the kind of characters that I really identify with...ones that seem like they could exist outside of our world because their world seems so real. That is why I thought Batman: Arkham City was GOTY last year...

I love Skyrim, it is a fantastic game, but I believe that The Witcher has a better character, The White Wolf, Geralt of Rivia...


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Comment #36 by Gilganomics
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 05:56:34 PM
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This has already been mentioned, but:
"Take Geralt away from The Witcher 2 and Temeria’s little game of thrones would continue without him. The stakes need to be higher"

I feel that, but disagree only because the "sole savior" role has been played to death in all forms of media.

With that said, I would like to see a merging of your desire and what we actually got; Put some more weight on the players shoulders (i.e. consequence), but don't make me feel like I'm the only one who can accomplish anything, it kills the immersion for me. I liked TW2 because there were people on all sides of the conflict who were (at least in theory) bad-ass.



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Comment #37 by awesomely
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 03:54:07 PM
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All of you people enamored with the Witcher 2 are fat losers who whack off to the 20+ sex scenes and have never had a woman. Yes, I loved the graphics and environment, the dwarven lines, and the fact that they treat me like an adult, not holding my hand every time I need to go somewhere. But the faults in this game are many. For one, why did they have to make every woman character as hot as they possibly could? To turn on the fat losers I spoke of earlier. Why is every single female character in the world trying to get in the Witcher's pants? Because the fat losers that play him. And how many monster types were there? 5? Let's see... harpies, endrega, drekkers, rotfiends, drowners, wraiths.. I'm sorry, 6. And why does this game have a lot of playing time in it? Because it takes you an hour to find the places to go every mission the first time you play through it. I don't want to waste my time walking in circles repeatedly trying to find an entrance to some caves. And who the hell can survive some odd 40 rounds in the arena to get that achievement? With the 20+ sex scenes, I thought they pushed it too hard. Three possible scenes like Mass Effect would have been more appropriate. Doesn't Triss or whoever get jealous that you sleep with an elf you rescued, Cynthia, whores, Ves, that Yennefer chick... the list goes on. Woudn't she dump you? No, because it's a fake fantasy. Sorry for spouting about the game for an hour, and I did enjoy playing it, but at times it was rediculous.


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Comment #38 by awesomelygood
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 04:05:29 PM
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Yeah, this is awesomely... I changed to awesomelygood so I could add my gemertag.


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Comment #39 by marzwoody
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 03:29:03 PM
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awesomely i think you may be retarded... there's no 20+ sex scenes in the game. you say they make every woman character as hot as they possibly could? is that a joke or did you play drunk? they just look like normal woman to me. you cant sleep with every woman in the game. why is there sex scenes in the game? because there adults you dumb fuck. im sure its realistic that a witcher that has his own sorceress following him on his journeys would fuck her every so often. "three possible scenes like mass effect would be appropriate" kid your the only one obsessing over the sex scenes the rest of us aren't bothered and are focusing on the amazing story line and addictive gameplay. why doesn't triss get jealous if you sleep with other woman? because shes never there during that you retard, (shes not even in chapter 2 she gets captured) now everything you have said has proven to be ignorant or incorrect please never leave a comment regarding the witcher 2 again.


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Comment #40 by UKJohn
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 08:34:08 PM
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#39 I agree. But we all have to accept that the bigger this game gets in sales, the more "me-too's" will buy it even though they haven't the capacity to understand the story, etc. and will complain about the game rather than themselves!

Look at LP's where the player will often say at the beginning "Geralt is struggling" and I bet later on, when they are all tooled up, it becomes "look how well I AM doing!" And I have seen so many LP's of games like Morrowind, etc where the gamer, coming from Oblivion,just doesn't get it - and blames the game!

So I would just ignore comments that will probably increase and ignore articles like this because they all probably want it dumbed down!


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Comment #41 by davidani
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 02:35:09 PM
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You Are giant idiots that should never be let near a keyboard again! Just joking... I agree with you mostly except the part of the monster hunting. There are so many monsters out there to kill and so many quests about them! Loved this game it is with skyrim and L.A.Noire on my favorite game's shelf!


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Comment #42 by darkboy1200
Wednesday, May 02, 2012 @ 08:22:22 AM
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1) I find the story is fine and plays more like something I'd see on HBO. CD Projekt shouldn't make the game too epic or else it just comes off as stale.

2) I'm feeling like there's been more than enough quests for monster hunting in a game that's essentially about find more about Geralt's past and hunting down Letho to clear Geralt of the crime he's been accused of. You can hunt trolls, endregas, nekkars, harpies, the kayran, ghosts, elves, etc.

3) The bosses really don't need to be bigger. Just because you can make something bigger, doesn't necessarily mean better.

Now here's my suggest for Witcher 3. A better map, I'm attempting to find the dwarven catacombs and the map is 100$ useless.


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Comment #43 by randallm33
Monday, May 07, 2012 @ 07:09:33 AM
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@39 - Not agreeing or disagreeing with you but just because there are adults playing a game about adults doesn't mean there need to be graphic sex scenes. It doesn't make it MORE "realistic" - when the player has to start taking a shit or has a "bladder meter" will that make it more realistic too? Sure, but is it necessary? Not really; unless that kind of thing turns you on.

I personally can do without the sex scenes in all games but I am not against an artist (developer, etc) wanting them to be part of their vision. I am not some pansy who wants them removed or some prude who thinks they are "ghastly abominations". I just disagree with the notion that tries to justify them by saying they add to the "realism" of the game. I am speaking about games in general, not necessarily this game but they are nothing more than soft porn in most games meant to excite the player.


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Comment #44 by marzwoody
Wednesday, May 09, 2012 @ 12:52:13 AM
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What i meant by realism is when in most games when there's just a black screen and a few noises like in a fable or the main character just flirts with the other character through out the game - which is just dumb if its rated 18. i admit realistic was the wrong choice of word. but that's not what i meant. i was just making a joke i guess, and i diden't say there HAD to be sex scenes. the sex scenes in the game don't excite me but i would rather see some virtual titties in a game instead of a black screen and noises like i said before. and who wouldn't?


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