Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #1 by Kakushu Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:15:48 AM | |
| Nice to see they're doing something to try please fans. |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #2 by ash356 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:16:32 AM | |
Well, kind of saw this coming xD
Good that it's free at least, still kind of sucks for those people who don't have access to xbox live :/ |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #3 by Pyrlaster Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:17:18 AM | |
| Im surprised that its free but its good new from Bioware |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #4 by Pappy21 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:18:01 AM | |
| Free DLC woooooooo!!!11!!!1! |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #5 by coffegalen Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:19:06 AM | |
| This is pathetic. |
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Forum Posts: 13 | Comment #6 by b0ss19 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:19:08 AM | |
it's cool that it's free and that they're doing it at all. better late than never
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Forum Posts: 25 | Comment #7 by DarthTrakd Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:19:28 AM | |
when you say "releasing for download" that means it'll be on live right?
I don't get why people are bashing the ending so much, yeah it was a bit constrictive and not at all fitting with the series as a whole, but if you read between the lines then it's actually really good.
But I wouldn't mind something describing it in detail so that my (and large sections of the internet) guesses can be confirmed. |
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Forum Posts: 2221 | Comment #8 by Nightdragon Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:19:36 AM | |
| Thank christ, and if they're waiting till summer, it could mean that they're actually putting some effort into it! |
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Forum Posts: 2681 | Comment #9 by LickableLemons7 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:19:48 AM | |
| I wonder how long it took them to make these different endings.... |
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Forum Posts: 522 | Comment #10 by PrinceOfThralls Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:20:37 AM | |
Is that all? A couples of minutes extra cutscene after the Credits? I am not pleased, neither am I expecting it to turn out good. bet it will be half ass rushed shit that answers nothing?
I hoped for some extra playable scene at least. |
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Forum Posts: 2681 | Comment #11 by LickableLemons7 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:20:56 AM | |
| @9 Or will take, rather. My bad. |
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Forum Posts: 2681 | Comment #12 by LickableLemons7 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:21:57 AM | |
| Does anyone know when they started to develop the endings? |
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Forum Posts: 195 | Comment #13 by Tained sainity Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:25:25 AM | |
I'm gonna rip off Daniel Bryan here but...
YES YES YES YES
OT: Look forward to seeing these different endings after I see the best ending in my insanity playthrough (max preparation and stuff) |
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Forum Posts: 267 | Comment #14 by macd Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:25:46 AM | |
| I expected them to make us pay for this, so fair play to Bioware. I liked the ending I got, but perhaps the new ending cinematics will make things even better. |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #15 by Ser Snow Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:27:28 AM | |
| good news! glad they didn't detract from there own vision of the ending as well and have simply added to it! |
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Forum Posts: 112 | Comment #16 by r0ss renegade Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:27:41 AM | |
| i cant decide whether this is good for fans or the developers caving in.... |
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Forum Posts: 111 | Comment #17 by Nami Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:28:02 AM | |
| I wonder how many more will cry out when they don't get the exact ending they wanted. This is going to end horribly. |
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Forum Posts: 53 | Comment #18 by SmS Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:28:30 AM | |
| Ill stick with original endig...because i dont have internet |
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Forum Posts: 53 | Comment #19 by SmS Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:29:35 AM | |
| *ending |
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Forum Posts: 3654 | Comment #21 by littlejay Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:31:07 AM | |
| downloadable cut scenes! I hope it clears things up. The ending wasn't bad itself, they need to explain what the heck happened :p |
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Forum Posts: 540 | Comment #22 by ErmacVersion1 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:31:34 AM | |
@5 then don't post about it. You come off as a pretentious douche when you say something like that.
I'm all for them fixing this if it keeps people from constantly bitching about it. Kudos to Bioware for doing something to please people rather than telling the people to deal with what they got. |
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Forum Posts: 91 | Comment #23 by Delirium1138 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:32:00 AM | |
| This has made my day. |
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Forum Posts: 100 | Comment #24 by Kailon791 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:32:39 AM | |
| I agree with others. I kinda like the original ending. Some might not care for it, but if you read between the lines, I see it as a way of not letting the series die, with the conflict not ending (I believe the ending is the Indoctrination Theory). But will be interested to see what Bioware puts out and what happens next. (Hopefully no more little kids and grandpas though, that kinda sucked.) |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #25 by strawberry Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:33:03 AM | |
Won't fix the many logical fails that were in the ending....
Like you know, the Reapers being created in order to kill biotics... in order for them to not be killed by other synthetics -_- Screw that. |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #26 by mad4ra Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:36:22 AM | |
| Space Magic is still Space Magic no matter how hard to try to explain it. I had high hopes for the Indoctrination Theory because it sounded "good" in most parts and even makes sense. But now it seems all findings for the Theory is just a big clusterfuck of errors in their own lore and logic. I still love Bioware but they screwed up big time :/ (maybe they shouldnt have cut content for the damn multiplayer) |
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Forum Posts: 9506 | Comment #27 by Carmona25 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:36:25 AM | |
| wow...Activision...take note. |
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Forum Posts: 55 | Comment #28 by BarnesyJr48 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:38:19 AM | |
Oh good lord, I'm sorry, but this whole debacle is utterly pathetic.
You realise by whinging and moaning over the ending, you've caused any 'proper' DLC to be put back?
Well done. Very well done.
I get being annoyed by the fact that none of our choices seemed to be included in the ending, that kinda annoyed me too, but thats no excuse to pitch a fit and cry foul. Think how many Hollywood movies have incredibly anti-climatic endings. Have any of those added extended epilogue scenes on the behest of fans? No, they brought out extended cuts to make more money.
If we want gaming to be recognised as a grown-up artistic medium on the same wave length as movies, guys, we've got to collectively grow up too. This isn't the way to do it. And worst case, this sets a dangerous precedent that means gaming remains in this state or worse for a while to come.
I apologise if my thoughts have offended you, but I see this and it makes me ashamed to call myself a gamer, something that has never happened in 15 years of gaming. |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #29 by Mr Chr15topher Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:39:49 AM | |
| F*** you EA! You have ruined Bioware. I should have been on my 5th playthrough by now, but the Starchild has stopped me even starting a 2nd. |
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Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #30 by WesHooladan Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:41:28 AM | |
| Embarrassing. |
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Forum Posts: 1679 | Comment #31 by mmartynn Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:42:34 AM | |
The added endings are:
Yellow light
Pink light
black light |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #32 by Kulas Devorn Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:45:37 AM | |
| Part of the reason you wait on games like this. I'll wait for a GOTY or Ultimate Edition. I refuse to be ripped off with DLC prices. |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #33 by Godfather93a Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:48:46 AM | |
I honestly thought if they did a DLC like this they should charge a good
50 or 60 dollars for just like 2 more minutes of video. |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #34 by Curt Chapman Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:50:46 AM | |
@10 but its free! They could offer a whole free title and it wouldnt be enough for some people...
This whole argument is silly.. The game ended the way it did, the fact that people physically upset the developers and writers by complaining about something they poured their hearts and souls into is just plain pathetic..
And you should be grateful for anything at all, its not like you contributed to the process.. at all..
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #35 by ash356 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:51:09 AM | |
@32
You are aware this is free, right?
It's just in light of this article, your comment doesn't seem to actually correlate to the subject... |
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Forum Posts: 86 | Comment #36 by mad4ra Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:53:58 AM | |
| @34 Well i have no problem with the ending itself, BUT there are MAJOR logical mistakes which just piss me off to some extent. Maybe its because Drew Karpyshyn left Bioware, but its still no excuse :/ |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #37 by christopherbatty Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:55:17 AM | |
I'm glad they are doing something about the ending (which was the only bad thing about a otherwise incredible game).
I would like to see another option at the end (to self destruct the reapers or something) that leaves Shepard and his crew alive, the reapers gone and other inorganic life such as EDI and my geth allies unharmed, not to mention the Normandy landing safely back on earth for a heroes welcome instead of flying off somewhere and crashing.
The games final scene should have been a older retired Shepard living with his/her chosen lover (Liara T'Soni if you have any taste)on Earth, their homeworld or the citadel telling there children about the way they met and saved the galaxy, finishing off by saying something along the lines of "the reapers were finally defeated by an alliance of all sentient life in our galaxy but that wasn't the last of the adventures your mother/father and I had together. After we returned to earth we received a message about a incident that needed our attention....." |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #38 by TimTam AU Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:57:22 AM | |
All aboard the thumbs down comment no doubt.
The way people have reacted to the ending, is disgusting. Whinging for a "new" ending, demanding something, its horrible. How would you feel, if you had spent years working on this, then had thousands cry and whinge that a story twist that successfully got you mindfucked, wasn't what they wanted.
I don't recall fans demanding an ending to the cliffhanger "Inception"? How is this different, that movie has no closure at all. Yet that is talked about, and regarded as the best movie at all time, with that second of footage that changed everything.
Would you (those who whinged and demanded change)be completely happy with everything tied up with a neat little bow and leaving no room for future devolopment with story, characters, etc?
From what I recall, BioWare set out to achieve something that would be talked about for ages, and create hype for future ME related content, whether it be DLC, videos, heck, even new games. The ending has been talked about, analyzed from head to toe and the "Indoctrination Theory" was created. It fits perfectly with everything, and this theory is discussed whenever I hear the words "Mass Effect 3". It has grabbed gamers attention, and brought us together to immerse ourselves in the world that is Mass Effect, and how our Shepard has sucuumbed to Indoctrination. And those who know of the ending with the rubble, why are you whinging? There must be something coming, otherwise why have it?
Now, what we are left with is videos, which were not planned, to clarify those who were upset the ending wasn't what they wanted. I do understand why people were annoyed with it, but demanding a new ending itself, is disgusting. Will this become a common trend among games? Should I start a petition to Epic Games as to why the Locust Queen is human? Perhaps send some cupcakes to those who wrote the Sopranos for the rest of my sentence? It really is sad, that people are demanding this "new" ending, that will take away from what the writers were aiming for. They obviously had something they were aiming towards, something further.
Remember this was the end of Shepard and the original trilogy...not Mass Effect. |
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Forum Posts: 518 | Comment #39 by quidyg Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:57:41 AM | |
@10 what were you expecting? people complained the ending was bad (when it isnt even as bad as people make it to be) so bioware are changing it, and releasing it for free. why should they release more playable parts, its not needed to explain the ending. which is what people want.
OT: its good to see some clarification on the ending, but like #28 said if people didnt complain so much about the ending we would prob be seeing some better playable DLC rather than just a few cutscenes. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #40 by sumthingchronic Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:57:54 AM | |
| Well you got what you wanted, happy now or will you complain when you see it it isn't good enough? Time will tell |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #41 by roza Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:00:49 AM | |
| Why do I get the feeling this won't resolve everything and it will just cause MORE moaning? |
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Forum Posts: 41 | Comment #42 by jedifather73 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:00:54 AM | |
| Way to sell out your artistic vision Bioware. We all know how good movies turn out when they go back and change them. I submit Star Wars as example #1. Oh, wait, Lucas ruined them. Ok, example #2 is E.T. Oh, wait Spielberg ruined that, too. Ok, there is no good example. I was dissapointed, but let it be! |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #43 by menoknow 88 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:01:16 AM | |
| the way i see it is that there is no proper way to end such an epic series such as this, because this has such a deep woven story line it cant be ended the way it should be |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #44 by Goats Are Cool Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:03:48 AM | |
| It is good to see a company actually pay attention to fans but the issue I have with this is Bioware had their artistic vision complete. They saw the ending as proper for the story they wanted to tell. With the outrage it bothers me to see them back away from their stance as a creative entity. I can say I enjoy action movies and someone can say they like romance. Just because I do not like romance does not mean that the other person requires me to change my opinion and force all action movies to be romance. Bioware creating a "new" ending is ONLY because of the outrage not because it went along with their creative vision. I understand people not liking things but the loud minority has opened Pandora's Box now when it comes to our since of entitlement. |
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Forum Posts: 647 | Comment #45 by BBowles Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:03:52 AM | |
@16 If they were changing the ending, I'd say it was the developers caving in.
Extending it by adding a couple cutscenes and an epilogue to spell out "1 + 1 = 2" for people that don't have any imagination or brain-power is a "win" for the fans I guess.
@32 You do that. You wait for a GotY edition so you can get cheaper FREE dlc....that's perfectly logical. It is people like YOU that need the ending spelled out for them in the first place because you just start spewing bullshit out of your mouth before clearly thinking or READING. |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #46 by TimTam AU Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:05:17 AM | |
| Also good to see I'm not the only one in my boat. |
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Forum Posts: 256 | Comment #47 by A BENGAL HOBO Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:12:40 AM | |
i still think its stupid they r changing it.this is how they wanted it to end.
if you see a movie that is really good until the end,u dont bug them to change the ending,,it just isnt done |
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Forum Posts: 647 | Comment #48 by BBowles Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:14:04 AM | |
@44 and everyone else calling it a "new" ending....its not. They clearly state that. Its simply a few cutscenes and an epilogue to EXPLAIN the ending better and to hold the hands of those confused by it. I don't see that as "going back on their artistic style".
People apparently NEED everything spelled out to them nowadays...because imagination and intelligence is essentially dead in society. Society doesn't want to sit back and think about something. They want it now. They want it the exact way they expected it in their head. And the majority of them won't be happy with these added scenes.
Personally, I hope these "added scenes" are 30 minutes of Shepard's corpse being tea-bagged 1 by 1 by every single Bioware employee while simultaneously flipping the screen off just to say "fuck you cry babies" to all the whiners -_- |
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Forum Posts: 1424 | Comment #49 by Vindicator51 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:14:24 AM | |
| Still, this won't save the fact that it turned into Space Fantasy in the end. They'll never make up for the mistakes made. |
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Forum Posts: 485 | Comment #50 by DarqStalker Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:16:17 AM | |
I heard the extended cut endings were already in the game, they just need to be unlocked :)
Just sayin' |
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Forum Posts: 127 | Comment #51 by Isanox Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:16:37 AM | |
@48 yes you have really show YOUR maturity.
New videos for the same crappy endings. |
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Forum Posts: 60 | Comment #52 by Goats Are Cool Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:16:53 AM | |
| @46 I agree man. It really bothers me to see such an outrage. We all can disagree but in the reality of this they are just opinions. Artist should stand by their works even if everyone thinks it is garbage. I worry when Halo 4 comes out that "fans" will whine if Marcus Fenix does not show up to do co-op with Master Chief in WWII. |
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Forum Posts: 105 | Comment #53 by hotdogenigma Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:17:24 AM | |
| I hope you whiny little nerd bitches are happy! It's a sad sad day when an artist get's so much blow back they have to change THEIR ending, or expand upon it because you're not happy with it. I also condemn Bioware for caving in and listening to you morons cry. If this is the direction the video game industry is moving then count me out. I dare any of you to begin petitioning an musician or artist to change the tunes in their songs, or alter a painting...they'll tell you to fuck right off. |
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Forum Posts: 208 | Comment #54 by Chimhog Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:18:19 AM | |
I think this is a good move from Bioware. Those moaning - DONT DOWNLOAD IT and boom 'your' ending is intact.
Win Win for all parties. |
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Forum Posts: 123 | Comment #55 by Space Cadet Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:19:35 AM | |
| 1:0 for teh internets. |
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Forum Posts: 1000 | Comment #56 by The Bum-Mobile Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:20:46 AM | |
| Glad that it's free. |
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Forum Posts: 401 | Comment #57 by ademlakey Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:25:14 AM | |
| Are people really complaining about free DLC and an alternate ending giving more answers for the ending? Fuck you bioware for listening to the fans and giving us free content! |
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Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #58 by TimTam AU Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:26:11 AM | |
@57
Read the comments... you said it yourself. "Alternate ending" |
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Forum Posts: 208 | Comment #59 by Chimhog Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:27:16 AM | |
| Good to see the thumbs down brigade are out in force today... |
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Forum Posts: 186 | Comment #60 by DeanBriggz Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:28:23 AM | |
Sounds cool. I'm still playing through Mass Effect 2 for the first time, so by the time I actually get around to Mass Effect 3 (it's sitting on my shelf) I'll be able to experience the ending plus the 'extended cut'. :)
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #61 by Mr Chr15topher Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:31:08 AM | |
*SPOILER*
Problem is that by just adding more cutscenes to the ending wont change the fact that the whole galaxy is screwed. Shepard destroyed the relays, meaning that the fleet will die from starvation and everyone in the galaxy is stuck on one planet.
Joker still turns tail and runs from the battle.
Shepard still can't get an ending that makes sense.
Extending the endings is just EA rubbing salt into fan's wounds by extending a bad ending instead of fixing what was an obvious mistake. The ending just doesn't fit with the rest of the series and our choices will still not impact on the ending as a whole.
The people who are saying that we can't demand a new ending because we didn't make it are correct, but we can ask for a new ending because the product that was given to us as consumers wasn't what was promised. We were promised that all of our choices would impact the ending, and that didn't happen.
The indoctrination ending would have tied everything off nicely. They could have charged 800 MSP for it and added a shadow broker sized expansion to the ending and added things that the fans wanted to see in the ending in the first place.
They would have made money for their EA overlords and we would have gotten a great ending. It would have been a win-win. I honestly doubt I will be able to play through the Mass Effect story again for a long time. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #62 by iveryPL Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:37:58 AM | |
| yes! it's amazing what a comunity of passionate gamers can achieve! |
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Forum Posts: 401 | Comment #63 by ademlakey Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:39:32 AM | |
| @58 people complained about the ending so bioware made an alternate ending. What other devloper has done that, people still complain and they could've charged for it. |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #64 by Shadowalker1191 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:40:34 AM | |
Point. Added cut scene
Counter-point. It's most likely just content that was cut from the final release of the game anyhow. Not working on anythink new, just giving what was there in the first place. |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #65 by Mr Chr15topher Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:45:19 AM | |
| @ people talking about alternate endings: This isn't alternate ending DLC, it's just adding extra cutscenes to what is already in the game. We get no new choices or alternate story, just longer cutscenes. |
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Forum Posts: 141 | Comment #66 by shavron Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:47:12 AM | |
| @25, I'm sorry if someone else has explained this in on of the other posts, but that' isn't exactly a logical fail. The idea was that the Reapers where created to whip out advanced civilizations only. This is to prevent them from creating AI that winds up wiping out all life in the galaxy, regardless of how advanced they are. This was something that the creators of the Reapers saw as an inevitability. The Reapers destroy to preserve the younger races. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #67 by HumbleMrRecker Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:49:51 AM | |
| Dislike. You had a vision. Stick with it. If people hated it, then can show it by not buying any more of your games. Stand by your game. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #68 by Arkangel X Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:51:44 AM | |
| The problem is...people aren't going to like the new endings they put out either. The crybabies (you know who you are) are going to get even more pissed off that they waited to get an ending that doesn't make them feel any more satisfied. You're going to see new topics like "omg the new ending is just as bad" from a bunch of idiots. Expanding on the ending instead of changing it IS the way to go for Bioware, but they can't really win against the legions of moronic fans. |
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Forum Posts: 578 | Comment #69 by rrushn Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:01:04 AM | |
#34: Be grateful for what ? When you eat a delicious steak and at the last bite you end up with a mouth full of maggots, do you thank the butcher for allowing you to buy the steak ?
We didn't contribute to the process, lol... without our cash, there wouldn't be a bioware. No demand, no supply. Gaming is no different, we are the main contributor of that process, their artistic talent only continued to exist because enough people shelled out cash for bioware products which happened to be good products.
You get paid for what you can do, you get shit for what you can't.
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #70 by BionicTriforce Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:04:31 AM | |
| I'm so pissed off at these whole proceedings. It's Bioware's game, and the fact that they feel they have to change the ending to please fans shows how whiny fans are. It ruins the artistic credibility of the game, and shows they have no pride in their work since they're not defending it. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #71 by randallm33 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:12:31 AM | |
I liked the ending but felt it needed more answers to what happened after THE FINAL CHOICE. This looks like a PERFECT response to that shortcoming. True to form, Bioware - who are a great company who cares about making quality games is making it free.
All the people who pissed and moaned that they did it to make money need to eat crow and take back the stupid things that were said. I hate reading entitled babies whine about things like this and make up all kinds of big business conspiracy theories (usually based around making money or EA involvement).
News FLASH: Not everyone is going to like the "extended cut" either. Deal with it. I hated what Michael Bay did to The Transformers. Does that mean that I should post 400,000 times in every half-related article about how it sucked?
As far as Bioware giving into the pressure. Their choice. They didn't have to but they felt like they could appease the "constructive" fanbase (which was obviously large enough to merit it) and still maintain their original vision. Kudos to BioWare! |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #72 by MustaPastori Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:13:55 AM | |
waaah waah stupid entitled gamurz :'(
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Forum Posts: 432 | Comment #73 by MicroCool Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:15:12 AM | |
| I still can't believe Bioware caved in and the so- called fans through a tantrum about an ending when the whole game was great. I promise you this, people will still not be happy with a new ending. |
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Forum Posts: 361 | Comment #74 by The Elite Elite Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:29:56 AM | |
| @73, what new ending? Read the quotes, this Extended Cut is simply expanding on the ending we already have. So of course there are still going to be complaints about it. Unless by clarifying the ending they mean something along the lines of the Indoctrination Theory, this fixes NOTHING! This won't change the Starchild and the completely stupid reason for the Reapers' existence. |
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Forum Posts: 498 | Comment #75 by BiffTech Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:35:30 AM | |
| Talk about missing the point! The end of ME3 needs a rewrite, not a polish! |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #76 by Kroesis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:39:29 AM | |
| @74 I agree with the 'starchild' point but the reapers are there to wipe out advanced life in the galaxy, not primitive (hence why Human civilisation, which was being studied at it's early stages by the protheans before they got wiped out, survived) so that those advanced civilization don't create AI which will wipe out ALL organic life, advanced or primitive. Also the Reapers keep the dna of life they destroy, quite why isn't apparent afaik, something they believe new created AI such as the Get wouldn't do. So no, it's not completely stupid especially considering that AI was an issue in each cycle past! |
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Forum Posts: 463 | Comment #77 by francisrossi Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:50:35 AM | |
| All this talk of "artistic credibility"... You're aware that all the changes made to the series have been about money, not art? Given they were still dicking about in November, when the story should have been locked off well beforehand, before throwing together something at the last minute, that tells me there was nothing artistic or credible about it whatsoever. I loved the first two games, but have no desire to play this at all. |
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Forum Posts: 361 | Comment #78 by The Elite Elite Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:54:31 AM | |
| @76, that's still a rather stupid reason for them. Problem: Organics make AI which eventually turn on organic life and try to wipe out all life, advanced and primitive. Solution: Create machines that do almost the exact same thing? Why not just have the Reapers come in and wipe out all synthetics? That sounds a whole lot better to me. |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #79 by Kroesis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:55:37 AM | |
| @61 If I were Joker i'd have done the same thing. Surely he knew that Shepard had made it and when you believe that someone is about to fire a weapon, a massive weapon that you have no idea how it works or how large the explosion would be, you'd get to a safe distance to protect the lives of the crew and to regroup with other ships of the fleet. There are many reasons why Joker might have gone through the relay, hell, he was in love with EDI, who IS the ship! |
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Forum Posts: 48 | Comment #80 by thewordis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:56:50 AM | |
| @1 its called damage controll |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #81 by Kroesis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:00:17 AM | |
| @78, perhaps they want to ensure that primitive organic life has a chance to thrive which may not be possible with older civilizations around. After all, organic life forms are fallible and would continue to create AI despite previous issues. |
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Forum Posts: 108 | Comment #82 by Breeding Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:01:50 AM | |
| I see the ending as pretty much everything after you leave Earth at the start. Nearly every decision you made in the last 2 games comes up and gets some form of resolution. And then when you start into the very last act it all starts to come together. To expect 100's of random decisions to all be addressed and tied in a neat little bow at the credits is just unrealistic. To make a horrible analogy, all the people on the planes involved on 9/11 made billions of different decisions but in the end they all got the same ending. |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #83 by Kroesis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:02:58 AM | |
| @78 I wouldn't claim to know precisely I wouldn't dismiss the reason entirely when it hasn't been explained thoroughly. Personally I like to speculate. Perhaps the extended scenes may explain it more though. |
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Forum Posts: 89 | Comment #84 by strawberry Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:03:26 AM | |
| @66 that's circle logic. It's illogical, why would anybody do that? |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #85 by LeftHanded Matt Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:11:01 AM | |
| Good stuff. I was not at all angry at the ending, but I was quite confused, so some extra clarification would be great. I can't believe there are people still complaining at this announcement, though. Ridiculous. |
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Forum Posts: 202 | Comment #86 by Sanchezz4387 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:18:43 AM | |
| Well done bioware and well done to everyone who stood up for themselves. This goes to show that if people try taking the piss too much they will suffer for it. This proves that voicing concerns and issues do make an impact.....much to the displeasure of all the moronic zombies who try to tell people they shouldn't ever complain about being scammed or ripped of etc |
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Forum Posts: 40 | Comment #87 by 123yhman Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:24:46 AM | |
| Looks like everyone bitching about the ending has paid off. I personally didn't have that much of a problem with it. |
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Forum Posts: 66 | Comment #88 by noremac321 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:25:17 AM | |
| It's hilarious that people bitch and moan about the ending, then when Bioware actually listens and offers free DLC, they complain that it won't be good enough, or that they have to download it etc etc. Why should a company listen to your complaints when you'll never be satisfied anyways? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #89 by XCynideX Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:27:31 AM | |
Wow..... it's actually FREE????...*gasp*
Thank God they're fixing their fuck up...that ending was fucking garbitch...maybe it'll salvage the game...MAYBE. I'm still boycotting them though, this shit is just unacceptable, regardless. We shouldn't have to demand an ending to not suck a dick after spending over 300 dollars on a story.
From the sounds of things BioWare is keeping their "artistic vision" in tact. In so many words that probably means Shepard will still talk to a ghost child and commit suicide but maybe it'll explain all that bullshit with more clarity instead of conspiracy theories of it being a dream / indoctrination. Mario Bros. 2 already did it. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #90 by flechetteXXX Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:38:38 AM | |
| This deeply saddens me that Bioware gave in and "is giving the fans what they want." Mass Effect 3 doesnt need another or "extended ending" it was fine and even if you didnt like it it was Biowares ending. This isnt going to please anyone. People are still going to complain that it "wasnt enough." People are already shitting all over this and they dont know a single thing about it. Its seriously a sad day for gaming. |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #91 by coffegalen Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:48:33 AM | |
Really wtf i get 6 thumbs down for my comment that this is pathetic. I mean come on. If we take Lost the tv series for an example, many people didnt like the ending but that didnt make people bithcing about changing the end and more important it didnt make the writers to change it either.
It is Biowares story, their way to present their story. You could even call it their art.
I think it is pathetic that people actually have the power to change their ending, their story, their artistry bla bla
It is Biowares way to tell a awesome story and people shouldnt be able to change anything.
It would never happen in any other form of story telling today, not in books, movies etc...
It is fully up to the author and artist to make their own game.
In the end i think this is bad for the gaming industry. A step in the wrong direction...
PS. Sry for bad english.. And this is my opinion so no need for hate..
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Forum Posts: 69 | Comment #92 by superdupergizmo Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 11:48:48 AM | |
| #38 you're the first person i hear that says inception is the best movie of all time. sorry, "at all time" |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #93 by ash356 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:01:22 PM | |
@84
To be fair, an ending with Spock saying that would just be awesome.
Starchild: 'Yo dawg, I heard you don't want to be killed by synthetics, so I made an army of synthetics to wipe you out every 50,000 years so you won't be killed by synthetics.'
Spock: 'Commander, I hate to interject, but this is highly illogical. May I suggest just fighting the reapers head-on?'.
Shepard: 'Spock?!? Where did you come from?'
Spock: 'The Normandy's new teleportation beam... we installed it last week. It's how we acquired Garrus and Liara off Earth.'
Shepard: 'Oh cool. Screw you starchild! Beam us up, Normandy!'
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #94 by Richnj Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:05:31 PM | |
I think people are forgetting that if a good portion of fans aren't invested in the story anymore, or there are huge logic errors because of the ending. It's going to leave a big stubbling blocks for future Mass Effect games. Thus affect sales.
They either fix it now, at the beginning of the next story, or ignore it and hope no-one notices. The fact they are "fixing" it tells me more people had a problem with this than what's normal.
I remember Halo 3, and hearing a few people moan about cheif surviving, but not to this extent. Red Dead Redemption didn't need it's ending tweaked either, because the game actually offers closure to the story. |
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Forum Posts: 44 | Comment #95 by PBALL Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:05:36 PM | |
| Free is good. That's how you do it, now they just have to deliver the goods. Still a fine game, even with the current ending. |
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Forum Posts: 201 | Comment #96 by High Lord Sigma Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:05:50 PM | |
Am I the only one here who thinks that people are being far too quick to judge what's happening with this content? Epilogue scenes for a series like this could include a ton of material. Note that it also doesn't explicitly say that these epilogue scenes are just cutscenes; it could very well be playable content.
That said, I appreciate BioWare listening to fan input. For those of you crying about how BioWare's artistic integrity is being violated and that they poured their hearts and souls into this game, have you not considered that we, the fans, have also poured our hearts and souls into this series? Why else would there be such a backlash against the endings?
Furthermore, it appears a lot of you don't understand that being a fan of a series does not mean everything about it is perfect. It also doesn't mean that you have to take it up the arse from the creators when they screw up. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #97 by Legendary enchilada Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:08:46 PM | |
| I'm surprised they aren't charging us for this, bioware has been a little bitch lately and been selling us crap DLC every chance they get. |
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Forum Posts: 310 | Comment #98 by STONE DEVIL Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:09:46 PM | |
| @28 - agreed. I "thumbed up" you to bring your comment out of the gray. LOL, only the kiddies whine and cry. Gamers accept the ending and move on. This is truly pathetic. |
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Forum Posts: 498 | Comment #99 by BiffTech Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:11:01 PM | |
| I'm sorry, but some of the last comments here have been BS! I see ppl making references to tv shows, movies & books, & how we don't get the choice to request a different ending if we are unsatisfied with what we have been given. The difference being, the media mentioned isn't interactive. We don't have the opportunity to shape our personal journeys through tv, movies & books. With gaming, & more specifically, Mass Effect, we do... So if we get what we consider to be a crap ending (given our journey), then why shouldn't we have the opportunity to request a fix? Especially considering that to buy a game is usually 4x more expensive than buying a movie or book! As for tv... well that's pretty much free anyway... |
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Forum Posts: 202 | Comment #100 by Sanchezz4387 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:15:38 PM | |
| @91Isn't it also a story they are expecting people to pay up for? If they want to make art and it to be appreciated for what it is then they need to put it in a gallery and not on a disc and charge RRP for it! When they build up a universe as they have through ME1-3 and utterly but fuck it at the end then people who have invested time and money have every right to be pissed. Lost was a tv programme that you didn't have to play, or pay for the privilege of watching. That isnt the case with mass effect, and as its apparently true that more mass effect games will be created the last thing the developers want is their hardcore community going well fuck you, you screwed us on our ending were not buying your product no more.....Although bioware created the story it was also created to make money from and if it doesn't live up to what's its built up across the series then the fans will speak up an that is a fact. No amount of "oh it's their story not yours" arguments will hold weight in this industry, they need to please the fans |
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Forum Posts: 204 | Comment #101 by Ceejus Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:20:46 PM | |
| @ #53: Oh, get over yourself you damned sheep. The ending sucked and you know it. Quit supporting bad story telling just for the sake of playing Devil's Advocate. Your "developers can't possibly do wrong!" attitude is completely pathetic. They should appreciate that fans have come to hold them in such high regard to expect better out of them than that crap ending. I'd rather have that than having had no one take me seriously as a story teller to begin with. I condemn you for your ignorance. And as a gamer with integrity, I'd be happy to count you out. People like you leaving the gaming world will make it a better place. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #102 by PickVanCleef Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:25:44 PM | |
| Just putting it out there...I actually really enjoyed the ending...thought there were 3 epic choices, and yes whilst it would've been nice to see what happened to all the crew, and the implications it had for all races etc, I haven't got a problem with how Bioware did it. I think that just by the fact that it has created so many different theories and such a strong reaction shows what a good ending it was...the worst possible thing would have been a 'happily ever after ending'...no, it's not perfect, but what is? Slightly miffed that some crazed fans have managed to change what was a perfectly legitimate ending to a saga, just keep it the way it is, if they don't like it, let them bitch on forums...oh wait. |
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Forum Posts: 228 | Comment #103 by Ned King Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 12:45:06 PM | |
I'm fed up with Trolls coming onto sites to post who haven't even played the game because anyone who played and enjoyed the Mass Effect Trilogy could not like the ending.
I could go into the whole thing about creating machines to kill organics so machines don't kill organics because they can't be controlled even though Shepard controls the reapers in the blue ending.But that's not why gamers are angry.
They are angry because Bioware said the choices U make throughout the trilogy will effect the ending but they didn't.Its not like movies because you don't make any choices you just watch it.If the ending sucks you will still complain and tell friends not to watch it.
Will the free DLC cover all the holes in the ending,we will just have to wait and see because there are so many off them.
Too all those who like the ending and said it made sense could U explain to me why Joker was taking the Normandy through the Relay even though the battle wad on earth and how the team with me walks out when it crashes.
There is loads more plot holes but just explain that one if you think it was a good ending.
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Forum Posts: 45 | Comment #104 by Vampire Psycho Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:10:47 PM | |
| I know have renewed hope in BioWare and cannot wait to play my second play through when this hits. |
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Forum Posts: 273 | Comment #105 by WartyHogger Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:20:11 PM | |
I'll stick with the original, as that's how it ended. There's i no second ending for me, there is no alternative ending. The series has ended, you cannot go back and re-do the entire ending just because people didn't like it. No one likes it when their favorite show ends. Lost, Seinfeld, no one liked the finales because no one wanted it to go. Mass Effect is no different.
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Forum Posts: 1606 | Comment #106 by ZingZitang Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:32:02 PM | |
@ 48:
First off, I agree with your assesment of our unimaginative, lazy society. But surely even you can see the not everyone who didnt like the ending is an idiot.
he ending makes zero sense, completely disregardes everything players have dont in all three games, absoltely does not fit within pre-established truths in the Mass Effect universe, and provides no closure with characters that you've grown to know over the past 5 years. And everyone is just suppose to "imagine" the ending?
Ok then, I imagine Scotty came along and beamed up my two squad mates, who were on Earth with me, onto the Enterprise. And obviously joker was travelling to Walmart through the Mass Relay to get some new batteries for EDI when the red/blue/green space magic exploded the Mass Relays. And I imagine the Normandy has some sort of futuristic onstar that allowed it to magically crash land on a HABITABLE planet after being exploded out of the Relay. Oh and I Guess Scotty mustve beamed my Squadmates - who were just on Earth with me - to the Normandy, while the Normandy was travelling through the Relay. . . How else would they have gotten to the Normandy?
Do you realize how ridiculous this is? "Your all dumb and all cry babies because you can't come up with an ending yourself." Lololol. Come on man.
The ending of Mass Effect 3 was complete garbage. Especially because people have to create some bogus theory(indoctrination theory) for it to make any sense at all.
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Forum Posts: 1606 | Comment #107 by ZingZitang Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:34:01 PM | |
| Also, the "artistic integrity" argument is bull shit. All artistic integrity was thrown out the window when Hudson excluded 95% of the writing tea? From actually writing the ending. |
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Forum Posts: 336 | Comment #108 by Poisonheadcrab Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:34:43 PM | |
My guess is that it will be Fallout 1/2 style, covering each individual race and some of the more important characters you've run into...
...and that's ok with me. |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #109 by BeheldBryan Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 01:42:38 PM | |
| Funny how I've always had the feeling that most of the people bitching about the ending weren't doing it because of plot holes and logic fails. Hardcore fans who are really into the lore, sure, but I get the feeling MOST people started bitching just because it didn't end exactly how they wanted it to. |
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Forum Posts: 290 | Comment #110 by DopeySO Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:01:59 PM | |
Some of you guys really need to learn how to read. They are NOT changing the endings currently in the game. They will remain 100% the same.
All they are doing is adding about 5-10 minutes of cutscenes to the end to clear up some of the loose ends and hopefully plot holes. |
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Forum Posts: 33 | Comment #111 by Kroesis Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:09:50 PM | |
| @103 see #79, If there is anything in the story that directly goes against anything in my previous post i'll accept it, otherwise why can't people make up their own minds? Honestly I think people cry plot hole far too willingly without allowing yourself to come up with a reasonable explanation. As for them walking out, well your team are not with you in the final stages, so they must have somehow survived and gotten picked up, perhaps with the intention of making it to the then open citadel to rejoin Shepard. Then for reasons suggested in my previous post they made the decision to run. As I say, i'll accept any evidence to the contrary but it only takes a bit of imagination to offer reasons. |
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Forum Posts: 201 | Comment #112 by High Lord Sigma Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:12:58 PM | |
| @#110: If they're adding material to the ending, then by definition it is not "100% the same." Like I said in my previous post, I think there's more to this DLC than most people here seem to believe. |
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Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #113 by drogger Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:16:22 PM | |
Bioware: Should we change the ending and give it FREE
EA: NO!!!!!
Bioware: But if people don't like the ending they are not going to BUY all the DLC if at the end there is no difference.
EA: OH SHIT GO CHANGE THE ENDING NOW!!!!
See if you still want to make money of it you better make sure the fans like it, like LOST if you didn't like the ending u aren't going to buy footage that dosn't explain or change the ending |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #114 by zerdarkangel Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:19:55 PM | |
| Surprised they are doing this, maybe people will stop bitching and let the game be the way it should have been. I think they should of said tough shit and move on,don't like it get rid of it and move on. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #115 by pottejd Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:28:42 PM | |
All of the conflict aside, this actually makes me kind of angry because the last chance you get to save is on the Normandy before the point of no return. This means, that to experience the extended ending, everyone has to replay the last 2-3 hours of the game. If it's actually being tailored to fit your save file, then you can't really just watch the extra endings online (like most people did for the other two endings to ME3). I'm also really worried about the precedent being set here, and what it means for future games.
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Forum Posts: 498 | Comment #116 by BiffTech Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:30:16 PM | |
| For crying out loud! Will you ppl stop comparing this situation to tv shows & movies... there is absolutely no comparison at all! As I have previously said. |
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Forum Posts: 234 | Comment #117 by blurbia Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:48:41 PM | |
| Who says the original ending is part of their artistic vision, and the ending Bioware really wanted? The industry is known for having to meet deadlines, and therefore possibly rushing products. Same could've happened to this game. |
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Forum Posts: 190 | Comment #118 by ash356 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:51:43 PM | |
@114
Yep, and that's exactly the reason you're not in charge of a development team, no offense. |
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Forum Posts: 234 | Comment #119 by blurbia Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:54:13 PM | |
| @115 actually, the last chance to save (quick save) is right before brutes knock down a wall, which is only about 5 minutes of gameplay (on narrative) before the ending scenes |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #120 by Neomalysys Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 02:54:28 PM | |
| Everyone who complains about the reapers being built to destroy organics isn't realizing that the person telling you this isn't a person but an a.i. maybe even the true leader of the reapers. So maybe the reapers were built as war machines originally and then destroyed their creators and decided to use organics to harvest resources for them. This happened in the Green Lantern comics were a race of robots was built to enforce justice and decided justice was to destroy organic life due to its chaotic nature. |
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Forum Posts: 234 | Comment #121 by blurbia Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:02:12 PM | |
| @120 I like that, since it did seem illogical that synthetics were around to destroy organics so that synthetics don't destroy organics. (Also, if synthetics [Reapers] were so worried about other synthetics destroying organics, then why did they send in other synthetics to destroy organics! [Geth in ME1]) |
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Forum Posts: 918 | Comment #122 by I mak3 big boom Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:02:26 PM | |
@10 hey everyone's favorite troll is back!
I am pleased to see this is free. With EA as their publisher I'd think it'd cost. |
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Forum Posts: 32 | Comment #123 by masamunemaniac Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:08:56 PM | |
| This would be the most amazing case of "DLC that's already on the disc" if it happened to be true :P |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #124 by xMEGADETHxSLY Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:14:08 PM | |
| INDOCTRINATION THEORY |
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Forum Posts: 1722 | Comment #125 by cheevo360 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:26:27 PM | |
DON'T CARE and Don't care about endings complaint. Mass Effect 3 is already awesome and one of best games in history. Endings may disappointed but this is only thing and rest of everything else is fantastic anyway.
BioWare is doing right thing to do for say like forgive to people who bang over their head for want better endings so they do it and give free which is good. Free DLC for this is good because part of Bioware is forgive to some of you here and fans who pissed over Endings.
Some of you mention is moaner about this DLC free, well it is because BioWare want new endings DLC for free to anyone who upset over original ME 3 Endings so you need patience until they complete ending DLC and they will do something else DLC. Leave BioWare alone because they done many games awesome. :):)
So please say big thanks to them for doing this to you.
Full stop. :D
Look forward next DLC with add on story and achievements for this. 8D |
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Forum Posts: 1427 | Comment #126 by Auburok Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 03:48:58 PM | |
I'm glad an epilogue is coming. That's all I wanted in the first place. It'll be strange to download non-playable content, but at least it's free. I bet you the ending doesn't have anything to do with indoctrination originally, but that Bioware will borrow it to please fans. It would be silly to plan this; who watches an episode of a show or a movie in theaters and wants to wait two months before getting the ending to that particular episode or movie?
Everyone in Bioware's got a fire extinguisher in their hands right now. We'll see in a month or so if the ending situation improves or becomes more of a travesty with the epilogue. Drew Karpshyn claimed no credit for the stories in Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3. Those are the games under Bioware's belt with the crappiest story. |
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Forum Posts: 68 | Comment #127 by SnakeSTD Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 04:01:46 PM | |
I really don't understand people. First, complained about the ending and asking to change it. Now that they are, they're still complaining that it is not going to live up to their standards before it even comes out.
Like what the f**k society?
I thought the ending was okay but free dlc is even better. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #128 by tonysm3 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 04:02:08 PM | |
| This news made my day... finally |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #129 by UrdnotCasper Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 04:28:11 PM | |
| For all the people who claim they like the ending and was "ok" with it..either A. Not true mass effect fans. 2. arent happy with it and are just bullshitting everyone. as someone who put 100's of hr into all 3 games, talking to everyone all missions, muti playthrus to see what people say when you have certain ppl with you ,everything you can think of i went back and did. to sit there for the final 5 mins of cutsence was a huge slap to my face and others. people saying changing the ending has ruin the game? umm. Fallout 3?. we all thought the lone wonderer was dead, whats this? Broken Steel? i Dont Think not one person didnt agree that this was an amazing dlc that CHANGED the ending. now about movies, just one thing to say to that argument,Movies Dont Have DLC.By the way, Ray Said It Himself and i will say it again, "Mass Effect Was Help Made By The Fans"so the fans should have some saying in the direction the series should head or at least the horrible ending. |
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Forum Posts: 63 | Comment #130 by Dlark17 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 05:14:34 PM | |
| Now taking bets on whether BioWare had this planned all along, just to get the hype up and keep their game talked about! Plaaace ya bets! |
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Forum Posts: 776 | Comment #131 by XxStuartxX 1990 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 05:19:38 PM | |
@13
this had better be better and longer than d-bry's mania match |
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Forum Posts: 894 | Comment #132 by Snoop QC Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 05:29:58 PM | |
| Hope it's something better than the choice beetween green explosion, red explosion and blue explosion! |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #133 by Smurfboy Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 05:58:18 PM | |
| It'll be cool if iD Studio decides to add the ending to RAGE game. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #134 by LordBimble Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 06:07:28 PM | |
I love how any user opposed to this outcome gets automatically down-voted, just for having a different opinion. Bunch of children posting here.
It is a positive step for game developers to be this involved with their fans, but the implications of warping your original artistic vision to edit endings post-release are unsettling. Where will it end? People will realize they can just complain and get what they want.
I don't like ME3's ending. But Bioware should stick to their guns and accept the consequences of their decision, not fall to the foul cries of spoilt gamers. It makes them look weak, like they're insecure about their own product. |
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Forum Posts: 463 | Comment #135 by francisrossi Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 06:19:37 PM | |
| @133 - What, better than walking up a few floors and then the game just sort of stopping? |
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Forum Posts: 35 | Comment #136 by Sumean Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 07:44:04 PM | |
#134 And maybe they are insecure. I know I would be. I see a lot of people saying how good the ending was, and asking/ordering the people who did not like it to explain themselves. Let me ask you one thing: Can you explain to me why you DID like the ending?
I don't mind Shep dying, it's actually a pretty good way to finish the series. But the same video with different colors, how is that a good ending? And if you are a Indoctrination afficionado, how does the ending bring you closure? Because you need to remember that this game, this last scene, is the LAST of the trilogy. Nothing after this. And to all of you saying ''artistic integrity'' and that the writers choice for the ending will always be the good one; Would you say that if the ending chosen by the writers ended with the Reapers fusing themselves together into a giant unicorn robot that shits suns, thus explaining the origin of the universe? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #137 by IHateTrolls Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 07:56:14 PM | |
| Only Jews and Cunts will like this, which are you? |
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Forum Posts: 237 | Comment #138 by AgentOrange330 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 07:57:15 PM | |
| This download will be content thats already on the disc. lol... |
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Forum Posts: 228 | Comment #139 by Ned King Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 08:13:02 PM | |
@111 yes I look at your @79 answer and it answered nothing about the Normandy leaving,did U play the game because nobody new Shepard was on board the Citadel.Plus the fleet didn't leave because the Hacket was trying to contact Shepard about the weapon not firing.Plus my team were behind me running down the hill when everyone got wiped out so how did they get to the Normandy.
I laughed when U said use your imagination,ok teddy bears came down and took my crew back too the Normandy lol.
I played 3 games for 300+ hours so an ending that makes sense would be good and I'll keep my imagination for magic tricks. |
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Forum Posts: 14 | Comment #141 by ado adee aday Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 09:48:15 PM | |
| The dlc should be free since EA already got 10$ extra on release day for the Prothean dlc. ME1 was published by microsoft and we didn't have the constant money making schemes to deal with. Then when EA gets involved we have micro transactions and bs release day dlc. |
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Forum Posts: 239 | Comment #142 by atomic viking54 Thursday, April 05, 2012 @ 10:33:12 PM | |
| cool that its free |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #143 by Papa buster Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 12:10:36 AM | |
there you go you got your new ending happy now. im not raged btw lol
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #144 by xmanglerx Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 12:23:10 AM | |
| we all know their not going to fix the "ending(s)" because the "ending(s)" doesnt need fixing,it just sucked plane and simple there was nothing wrong with the ending except it sucked but it is what it is, their just gonna make a series of cut scenes to further complate and confuse people which will lead to further anger about the "endind(s)" which by the way sucked because it left everything up to some random character that simply explained everthing the reapers sayed you could not comprehend and no matter what choices you make you generally got the same thing with diffrent colors.... now that im done trolling masseffect 3 is a fantastic game that i cant wait to play it again then turn off it off after i shoot the illusive man |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #145 by lordz Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 12:38:32 AM | |
| whota hell, long time wait |
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Forum Posts: 91 | Comment #146 by Hunterking Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 12:50:13 AM | |
| Why is there a pic of JOKEr underneath this article? |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #147 by Disasterpiece83 Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 02:24:13 AM | |
| Pretty miffed that this is being prioritised ahead of proper DLC despite being entirely unnecessary, but I'm interested to see where they take it. More interested to see the horrendous backlash and bitching when it isn't what "everyone" wanted.... again! |
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Forum Posts: 186 | Comment #148 by Jabbawocky Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 04:37:01 AM | |
| I love how some people are saying that Bioware is giving up their "artistic vision" to please whining fans. First off half of you are only using artistic vision because thats what the press release says. Secondly if Bioware actually thought that their vision was worth standing by they would do. The fact that they are willing to budge just because fans are vocally upset about such a thing means maybe they don't have the confidence in their ending after all. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #149 by christopherbatty Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 07:15:51 AM | |
My only real complaint about the ending was that there was no good one. The closest was destroying the reapers but that also destroyed the geth, EDI and all other technology not to mention the mass effects.
All I ask is a way for the reapers to be destroyed (I would also settle for disabling there weapons and shields so the multi species alliance can beat ten kinds of crap out of them).
Shepard needs to live, as do his companions (if they are good enough like the end of mass effect 2).
Finally the old man and child at the end was just ridiculous, it should have been a old man/woman Shepard(with his chosen lover) talking to his kids, or a group of students or even at the military academy. |
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Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #150 by jedioniram Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 09:04:19 AM | |
| I'm happy to see this, but really at this point I would just prefer some good DLC. I don't need the ending rehashed if it takes away from getting other fun content - or even delays it. |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #151 by Mrryan12 Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 09:01:04 PM | |
| Looks like the fans won. I might buy this game, the only bad thing I have heard about it has been the ending, so this will solve that. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #152 by Juggalo151 Saturday, April 07, 2012 @ 08:02:58 AM | |
| I feel the same way and ending is an ending im tired of reading about people crying over little tidbits of info that did get wrapped up for them. Before I beat the game I saw a bunch of stuff about how the ending was terrible so it changed my opinion of the end game before I even got to it. But surprising enough to me when i finally got there i thought it was a pretty damn good ending. Either way think about this, in the nes days completing a game sometimes ment a thank you for playing screen. Would you rather of had that? |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #153 by D4RTHST4R Sunday, April 08, 2012 @ 03:45:27 PM | |
Nice one Bioware.
Didn't mind the ending, just wanted a bit of closure with my team.
Mind readers. And for free its nice that some developers still do things for fans. |
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Forum Posts: 274 | Comment #154 by TroubledReaper Sunday, April 08, 2012 @ 07:07:49 PM | |
| It is nice to see that they really do care for the fans...but what a shame they had to bend over and take a big one :-( |
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Forum Posts: 15 | Comment #155 by MythBuster22 Tuesday, April 10, 2012 @ 12:40:56 AM | |
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I think you are looking at it wrong. The ending itself was fantastically well-written and is certainly unappreciated. That being said, you can't compare it to a movie such as Inception. There is nothing wrong with cliffhanger endings, they can add replay value to a game if done right.
But the reason there weren't mass complaints about Inception is because it was a great concept; you simply sat back and watched the story unfold all the way to the epic conclusion. But in Mass Effect, people didn't watch the story from start to finish. They WERE the story from game one, focusing on the many difficult decisions along the way and their moral implications.
I for one probably had 200+ hours put in between the three games, so it's safe to say I was invested in the story. So while I loved the ending, I feel like that last 15 minutes stole the value from every single mass effect game. I no longer have any desire to replay the series knowing that no matter what I choose, I will get the same ending every time.
I understand everyone's frustrations, but I don't think an expanded explanation is going to solve anything. I was hoping for some variety in the endings based off of the 'important' decisions I made in all three games. I wanted my ending to be personal, like the rest of my experience with the series. And that is not something that is easily fixed by DLC... |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #156 by daxterthetoad Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @ 06:43:15 AM | |
It cant make the ending worst might s well try i guess
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #157 by A5pacePirate Saturday, April 14, 2012 @ 08:53:46 AM | |
| As long as I get some closure for the Geth and Krogan, I will be good. |
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