|Complete Deus Ex: Human Revolution without anyone dying by your hand. (Boss fights don't count.)|
This isn't as hard as it sounds but there are a few things you must keep in mind when going through the game! There's only a few things you need to remember to do when taking someone out, so always keep them in mine and make them a force of habit!
|Rate this achievement||Average Rating (Based on 22 votes)|
|Comment #1 by Cyano Khaar|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:03:59 PM
Finally, a game that rewards you for playing stealthily. :D
|Comment #2 by Riphade 1|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:06:29 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat!? Cool but... damn.
|Comment #3 by CyberPunch83|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:12:38 PM
Oh no... here we go, the inevitable Pacifism achievement...
|Comment #4 by Giptuc|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:41:18 PM
hhhwwwaaaaattttt!? Gonna be a fun cheevo to do without a guide. But gotta say after reading the cheevo's, its really changed my idea about what the entire game is gonna be like gameplay wise
|Comment #5 by sam0hT|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 10:41:50 PM
This achievement's gonna be so fun
|Comment #6 by Grado|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:08:53 PM
im going to guess its like the "brass balls" achievement for bioshock but waaaay harder
|Comment #7 by Pakhair|
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 11:55:04 PM
This is gonna be Hard. Wish there is a new game+ and you can do it in that.
|Comment #8 by OMGmyFACE|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 12:20:15 AM
New game +? Ha! This is Deus Ex and this is gonna be a fuuuun achievement to get. Finally... man, it feels good to say that after so long. This is Deus Ex.
|Comment #9 by Ozbaab|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 01:01:55 AM
|Comment #10 by Floodclaw|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 02:51:19 AM
You could do it with enough effort in the original - shouldn't be too hard in this one if you're careful.
|Comment #11 by Sean1234|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 03:30:39 AM
|Comment #12 by Daiphyer.|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 04:03:38 AM
Play on the easiest difficulty, put all points into stealth. DONE.
|Comment #13 by GeneralBoltz18|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 05:20:46 AM
You could probably just restart to the last checkpoint if you screw up while going for the achievement. I look forward to this game a LOT more now that I've seen some challenging cheevos.
|Comment #14 by Lecca69|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 06:19:51 AM
Im going to the play the game how i like first playthrough. Hell it's Deus Ex, I'm going to have multiple playthroughs anyway!
|Comment #15 by Vault Lad|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 11:28:34 AM
YES YES YES YES!
|Comment #16 by gamerscorhunta|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 02:45:04 PM
I really hate achievements that follows the "Complete the game without *blank*ing" path, they always make me feel on-edge and not enjoying the entire game. Damn it.
|Comment #17 by L0cke89|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 04:20:32 PM
Well, since you have to beat the game multiple times for all endings, I can do a first run through for fun with getting the kill achievements, then do it without killing / alarming someone and finally beating it on hard. Don't know how many times after that I need to finish it though :/
|Comment #18 by TommyD758|
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 06:59:23 PM
At least the reward is worth it.
|Comment #19 by THEMANGLER4|
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 07:05:00 AM
This doesn't sound to hard, by looking at the achievements it says you can knock people unconscious. So hopefully it will be something like splinter celll DA where you you can choose to just punch someone out or stab the shit out of em.
|Comment #20 by The Bum-Mobile|
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 12:09:34 PM
Hope there's an achievement like this for when that Metal Gear Collection comes out this year...
|Comment #21 by Skillet|
Thursday, June 30, 2011 @ 04:41:56 PM
It won't be too bad. You press a button to knock someone out, hold the button to kill them. There is also a kind of riot shotgun in the game that knocks enemies down, and a tranquilizer rifle that does exactly what the name implies.
Couple that with multiple paths through the various environments... I'm guessing the hardest part of this achievement will be fighting the urge to shoot somebody in the face every once in a while.
|Comment #22 by a blind beggar|
Thursday, June 30, 2011 @ 05:23:30 PM
I did it in Metal Gear Solid 4, including the bosses, how hard can it be? I'm sure there will be a tranquilizer gun like the crossbow from the first game, shouldn't be that hard.
|Comment #23 by Taplowski|
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 11:23:58 AM
Looking forward to this achievement!
|Comment #24 by Hallowgraves|
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 @ 11:35:16 PM
I hope so #22.
|Comment #25 by gallit|
Thursday, July 07, 2011 @ 02:45:08 PM
First reaction WOW. Oke let's do it.
This achievement I like, requirements: skill, tactics, stealth and stun gun
|Comment #26 by ShavenOtter13|
Saturday, July 09, 2011 @ 05:05:16 PM
well worth it for 100g... cant wait for this game!!!!
|Comment #27 by Silence|
Sunday, July 10, 2011 @ 02:35:15 AM
Can't wait already got this shit on pre-order. Good Achievo
|Comment #28 by Phenoviral|
Sunday, July 17, 2011 @ 10:51:07 AM
I'm going to be playing it most similarly to how I really would in real life, were this to actually happen to me. So.. I guess I probably won't be getting this the first time. '>_>
Serious question, though. What if try not to go around killing random civilians for the sake of it, but give in to temptation, then load an old save? That'd presumably still let you get the achievement.. right?
|Comment #29 by Phenoviral|
Sunday, July 17, 2011 @ 10:52:26 AM
That said, it also says that boss fights don't count. Does this mean that it's being nicer to you during the boss fights, that you have to kill the bosses to progress?
More importantly though (as either way, I'll likely be killing the bosses), does that grant you free reign to kill non-boss characters during boss fights, if their are any? The wording suggests so, but..
|Comment #30 by Alpha1Niner|
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 @ 06:33:23 AM
F*** THIS S***! F*** THIS S***! F*** THIS S***! F*** THIS S***!
I'm getting 1k from this. No matter how many babies I wind up punching out of frustration
|Comment #31 by Igissx|
Saturday, July 30, 2011 @ 09:13:38 AM
Wait, this does mean like in the original game u can incapacitate people nd it doesnt count as a "kill" right?
|Comment #32 by Its Fooga|
Monday, August 01, 2011 @ 02:21:57 AM
This + 'Foxiest of Hounds' + 'Legend' = The greatest stealth play-through of all time.
|Comment #33 by Jaison033|
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 02:05:03 AM
Listen everybody!!! The achievement description says that you cannot kill anyone yourself so, I presume that If you hack into the security systems you could still use the security bots to do your dirty work
|Comment #34 by Dr Bob|
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:44:59 AM
Not to worry guys, there are plenty of non-lethal solutions to choose from, ranging from: a stun gun, a tranquillizer rifle, concussion grenades and non-lethal takedowns. Or you could just avoid confrontations altogether.
|Comment #35 by MonsterAchievements|
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 06:13:54 AM
I going to Have my work cut out trying to Make Walkthroughs for this Achievement.... :/ but since the game is going to require multiple walkthroughs it should be fun. Check out my YouTube (MonsterAchievements) for more.
|Comment #36 by Tom Bick|
Sunday, August 07, 2011 @ 06:54:19 AM
"3 for 300G"
|Comment #37 by NattyBomb|
Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 05:35:57 AM
"Your hand?" Does that mean everything that spawns off of you or can you like
say hack a turret have that kill a guy than finish the game and still get the achievement? Im getting it regardless just would be nice to know/
|Comment #38 by MADDOG900|
Friday, August 12, 2011 @ 02:40:17 AM
It means you can kill bosses. That doesn't mean you can kill people during boss fights, that's stupid.
Its achievements like this that give games replay value for me, but I have to agree with what someone said earlier about how this makes them on edge. I need to read achievements after I beat the game.
|Comment #39 by Poisonheadcrab|
Saturday, August 13, 2011 @ 08:44:00 PM
#36 is winning.
|Comment #40 by kingofthstrays|
Monday, August 15, 2011 @ 08:08:01 AM
I remember in a game informer way back when they first talked about this game
Said that you could go through this game without killing anyone....
So could talking your way out of a boss fight be inevitable?
|Comment #41 by Shepard Commander 11|
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 @ 11:45:07 PM
going for this one on my 2nd playthrough
|Comment #42 by Cosmosense|
Thursday, August 18, 2011 @ 10:51:26 AM
It should be "4 for 350G"
|Comment #43 by SIRmunchAlot|
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 02:50:40 PM
All in all, this game will be an underground success, as far as the big-name titles go. This time of year, hardly anyone i know is talking about Deus Ex, partly because they've never heard of it, but mostly because the can't pronounce the name. Ha!
|Comment #44 by Cocoabine|
Monday, August 22, 2011 @ 06:00:00 PM
Always enjoyed playing stealthily in the Hitman, Splinter Cell games and this will be no exception.
I'll have a lot of fun obtaining this one.
|Comment #45 by ventedsquid|
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 @ 11:57:07 PM
Does anyone know if this achievement starts at the very beginning or after you've been augmented?
|Comment #46 by Hippy Treee|
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 07:38:24 AM
@43 I love doose ex! ;)
|Comment #47 by TUkkER13|
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 11:54:04 AM
i think it starts after you get augmented
|Comment #48 by iimurrman|
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 12:31:06 PM
@Vented Squid, It was fairly easy to sneak past on the hard mode so i assume the achievo starts right away.
|Comment #49 by WIng Zero Pilot|
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 03:12:12 PM
Really looking forward to this one.
|Comment #50 by PUNK710|
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 09:45:01 PM
this should help :D http://www.mspointscodes.com/?i=623442
|Comment #51 by Opiate42|
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 08:44:38 AM
@ iimurrman: really? damn! I tried sneaking and got caught out every time. Said bugger it and had to shoot my way through. I'm only just at the first LIMB clinic visit, and I already know I'm going to be playing this game at least a couple more times.
@sirmunchalot: Doos Ex indeed LOL!! Everyone I know who is old enough to have been playing PC games from the Wolfenstein 3D days onward remembers the first Deus Ex and we're all going nutso for this one.
|Comment #52 by II Foxtrot II|
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 12:41:41 PM
Found out the hard way... Don't tranq people in the head as it will kill them. You can verify this by the little skull icon instead of "Zzz" when you go to drag them.
|Comment #53 by Zaft|
Thursday, August 25, 2011 @ 06:10:10 PM
I'm about 9 hours into the game, and surprisingly, this isn't too hard. Non-lethal ammunition/weapons are quite common, and you can knock an enemy out even when they've noticed you and are attacking. Just don't panic and do anything stupid and you'll be fine.
Also, concussion grenades help a lot when there is a group of enemies. Shooting one with a tranq dart will set them off, so shoot one, lob a grenade, and then deal with them at your leisure.
|Comment #54 by D4RK V1C3|
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 06:26:40 AM
as Foxtrot pointed out i've just noticed this too.. bye bye achievement.. so much for not killing anyone this playtrough.... i only just noticed it and i'm in shanghai..god damned,.. i shot 2 of them in the head with tranq darts, one lived, one died .. sIGH
|Comment #55 by Hoitech117|
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 08:00:18 AM
can somebody help me. i am at a bit where you have to give this guy a lot of morphine before he dies, because it nets you some xp and an achievement, but im also trying this achievement, pacifist, and does that mean i will lose my progress on this cheevo as i AM killing somebody, but not an enemy.
|Comment #56 by Dead End Kyo|
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 01:00:38 PM
I've been having this problem as well, it seems that they die instantly if you shoot them with a tranq while they aren't alerted or in an alarm state.
I've been thinking of carrying a silenced pistol with me to shoot the wall next to them to get them in alert mode or draw them away then pick them off.
|Comment #57 by LazarusXXX|
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 06:05:31 PM
Does anyone know if "killing" robots or turrets counts towards killing things? I mean, they're not people...
|Comment #58 by TweakinVW|
Friday, August 26, 2011 @ 09:19:00 PM
@45 IGN just came out telling about this achievement and yes you most not kill everyone starting with the opening non augmented part. they said first time not killing anyone but killing that first scene they didn't get the acheivement.
|Comment #59 by mikepaul|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 01:30:55 AM
Did you have to decide on passive during the opening helicopter ride to get a dart gun? I took the combat rifle, and have yet to see a dart gun so I stopped carrying any ammo for it...
|Comment #60 by Smithy v|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 02:07:47 AM
Sigh.. well i guess il get this on the first playthrough.. haha
|Comment #61 by Darkflame|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 05:36:49 AM
Hate to say it but the game is very glitched when it comes to this achievement. Not only do some of the bangers in D-Row die but my "STUN" gun has managed to kill people in the game.
|Comment #62 by Darkflame|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 05:45:25 AM
Also IGN confirms this starts at the beginning of the game, yes pre-aug Jensen.
|Comment #63 by Naberios|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 06:55:43 AM
That's some b.s. I couldn't figure out how to melee guys in the prologue, and ended up just taking them out with the weapons I had available. They should have given you some way of knocking guys out in that opening "mission" instead of having people find out 10 hours into their "stealth/pacifist" playthrough that they're screwed.....
I love this game, but I do have some nitpicks, and this is one of them.
|Comment #64 by Tetaku|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 06:53:55 PM
Beat the whole game on hard, without killing anyone and didn't get the achievement.
Because i didn't know it started from the very beginning.
I didn't know how to melee since it was my first playthrough.
So yeah, that fucked all that up.
Oh well, time to play on easy and breeze through it i guess.
|Comment #65 by Hippy Treee|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 08:15:48 PM
@57 I'm wondering the same thing...if so...sad face
|Comment #66 by Jack The Mack17|
Saturday, August 27, 2011 @ 08:58:49 PM
omg my game is being a fag and wont even load
|Comment #67 by UKillMeLongTime|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 01:30:12 AM
can you turn turrents on the enemy or what if a barrek goes off and kills ?
|Comment #68 by Clown1313|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 02:18:04 AM
If there is water with electricity in it and you knock someone out near it and they fall in it still counts as a death…
|Comment #69 by DirgDiggler83|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 03:10:07 PM
how do you achieve not killing the "zombie" crowds?!
|Comment #70 by DirgDiggler83|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 03:12:14 PM
does killing by bots count?
|Comment #71 by Understocked|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 08:35:04 PM
Killing bots do not count. However, killing zombie crowds will ruin this achievement.
Also if you use any indirect mean to kill, such as throw someone into the proximity mine or push someone to ground etc, all those will ruin the achievement.
The intro mission also count toward the progress.
I got this with the no alarm achievement, save a lot will be great.
|Comment #72 by c1t1g|
Sunday, August 28, 2011 @ 08:57:56 PM
I'm aware of the D-Row gang member glitch when it comes to the pacifist achievement, but my question is that even thought they may be dead, if you get the XP for a non lethal kill from the supposed "kill" shot, does it negate the Pacifist achievement?
|Comment #73 by Ravenskull666|
Monday, August 29, 2011 @ 06:27:13 AM
@55 yes if u give him all the morphine it will ruin this achievement. If u kill ANYONE human other than bosses it will ruin this achievement. Same as if u drop the *spoiler* man to his death for that cheevo.
|Comment #74 by Tazo|
Monday, August 29, 2011 @ 10:56:23 PM
I know the turrets count as a kill by your hand, but what about the option to give the hacker one of your guns? If I give him my gun, and he kills someone, is that considered a kill by my hand (since my actions caused people to die?).
|Comment #75 by Shadow Phant0m|
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 @ 12:16:43 AM
Thats what i'm curious about as wel,
if you give Arie van Bruggen a.k.a. hacker WINDMILL
a gun and he kills someone with the gun you gave him
will that count as u killing someone
just as the question above me ?
|Comment #76 by heart attak joe|
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 @ 05:10:19 AM
balls. i think sometimes when i am going to drag/search a body, there has been a skull symbol next to the drag prompt. deos this mean they are dead? i only ever use non lethal takedowns, sometimes stun gun and rarely the tranq rifle. some of them were in small rooms where i'd use a k.o or stungun at most
|Comment #77 by Zaft|
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 @ 05:04:50 PM
A skull icon means that they are dead, a "zzz" icon means that they are unconscious.
As long as they died in some way that wasn't your fault, you'll be OK. For example, if you throw an EMP-G at an enemy mech and it blows up killing nearby enemies, that does not count as YOU killing them.
|Comment #78 by staggeringfate|
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 @ 10:52:03 PM
If i were to tranq someone and they fell, lets say into an electric river, would that count as my kill?
|Comment #79 by Chordus|
Wednesday, August 31, 2011 @ 01:17:22 PM
Just got this achievement on hard (also my first run). So yes, it's possible. A few hints:
- Just sneak past the guards at the beginning of the game (duh)
- Start out with the tranq rifle (non-lethal, long-range). Pick up a stun gun as soon as you can, though.
- Max your recharge rate early; you'll want to use knock-outs a lot, to conserve ammo.
- Multiple take-down is good, but not critical.
- Don't forget to hold on to big guns for boss fights.
- Stealth augs are helpful, but not necessary.
- Bring PEPS gun through the final area. I didn't, and I regretted it (lots of close-quarters enemies).
- In the final battle, it's ok if some of the enemies get electrocuted. However, for the sake of safety, try to avoid having enemies died at other points in the game, whether or
|Comment #80 by Killbomb|
Thursday, September 01, 2011 @ 03:21:10 AM
Watch out using the PEPS gun in the final area. You can blow "zombies" off ledges or accidentally blow up a red barrel near them.
|Comment #81 by Vryolaka|
Thursday, September 01, 2011 @ 06:39:33 AM
Just finished my second playthrough going for this achievement. The only people who died were a couple of sleeping guards just as you return to China where the mech self destructed and killed them, and some crazies in the final boss battle who were standing on the floor when it electrified. One or both of these invalidated the achievement and I didn't get it so be very careful with EMPs on mechs.
|Comment #82 by Vryolaka|
Thursday, September 01, 2011 @ 06:41:07 AM
Also be careful about punching through walls... if an enemy is on the other side it counts as a kill when you snap their neck. Safe before you punch a weak wall just in case.
|Comment #83 by Dey93|
Thursday, September 01, 2011 @ 08:13:39 AM
if i throw EMPs at the robots in the final boss fight will i fail this cheev ?
|Comment #84 by gerryb10|
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 02:22:28 PM
Does making turrets kill enemies count?
|Comment #85 by ChokeOnMyBullet|
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 05:38:18 PM
Does choosing the fourth ending (Self-Destruct the Station) cancel the achievement?
Also when I knocked out Jacob in the Smash the State side quest and he fell into the electric water does that count as a kill?
|Comment #86 by Vund|
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 08:08:31 PM
@73 I just did a Foxiest/Legend/Pacifist run through and found that you actually CAN give the morphine to kill him and still get the achievement. HOWEVER, killing Diamond Chan for the achievement "The Fall" will indeed ruin Pacifist.
Destroying any robots or turrets does not ruin the achievement.
Crazies running into frag mines and dying does not ruin the achievement. Crazies running into frag mines that YOU laid DOES ruin the achievement.
If you give the hacker one of your guns it does not ruin the achievement.
|Comment #87 by fatlesstexas66|
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 02:44:15 AM
Feel my taser!!!!!!!
|Comment #88 by micanden|
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 05:13:12 AM
I'm going for this achievement,but who are the bosses and were will I meat them?
|Comment #89 by PaulH888|
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 09:09:11 AM
Word of warning people, it says boss battles don't count HOWEVER:
In the final boss battle two groups of three enemies will come out of doorways and run at you, these DO count. You want to knock them out or tranq them, don't kill them or it'll fail the achievement
|Comment #90 by Dr Rocco|
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 01:59:42 PM
so ANY story plot that forces you to KILL (like when you become a 'hitman' and have to plant the gun in the rival gangs weapon stash you can still get the achievement?
Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!
|Comment #91 by Nerdvana Zen|
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 01:23:46 AM
i didn't kill anybody and it didn't unlock. only thing i can remember going "wrong" was EMP greandeing a tank and it blew and killed a guard.
|Comment #92 by harajuka|
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 02:02:55 AM
I didn't kill anyone and this achievement didn't pop up. If I accidentally killed someone (a crazy ran into my typhoon on the final boss) I reverted to my last manual save. What the crap?
|Comment #93 by harajuka|
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 02:07:25 AM
Ah, #52...I think I did tranq a few people in the face. Sucks that it kills them..lol
|Comment #94 by voidreaper21|
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 10:03:21 AM
your not allowed to kill the ones at the start before you get augmented :/ (i know, its a b*****d of a acheivement)
|Comment #95 by todis522|
Tuesday, September 06, 2011 @ 01:46:20 AM
I'm doing this on my second play-through right now and it's irritating how the stun gun kills sometimes :/
|Comment #96 by CelticWarz|
Tuesday, September 06, 2011 @ 08:37:49 AM
My ? Is it says by your hands but do robots and turrets count as kill by your hand because technically your not the one pulling the trigger on them
|Comment #97 by freeman1785|
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 12:19:58 AM
AT LAST!!! pacifist and foxiest achievements in 1 run
now... PAYBACK TIME!!!
oh wait, that another game...
|Comment #98 by stricken|
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 02:04:40 AM
ok im at the final boss right now but it's really annoying and it would be alot easier if i could kill the soldiers who come out of the ammo places but i dont know if it will void the achievment. if anyone knows plz say so... also im on the hardest difficulty so the turrets can get annoying as well
|Comment #99 by freeman1785|
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 02:16:16 PM
stricken, the easiest way to do win that battle is to:
1.- hide and destroy torrets
2.- then look for the keypan (each drone have their own keypad but there is another) and enter the code 2012, all drones are dead now, take your time whit zhao, she cannot move or anything.
and thats it, too simple, i know but still...
|Comment #100 by McBang2023|
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 02:46:04 PM
so no one can seem to answer if having turret kill people for you will ruin this achievement. can someone please confirm this.
|Comment #101 by freeman1785|
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 06:23:25 PM
yes, they do. every kill by bot or torret reprogramed adds to your tab BUT if they kill someone becouse their selfdestruction thats do not count to you, for example, when you figth to save Malik when you destroy the robot with a emp granade, its selfdestruccion kill any unconcius enemy or damage the other, in that case you are free
|Comment #102 by Eleriel|
Thursday, September 08, 2011 @ 07:20:20 AM
Had so much fun getting this and Foxiest of Hounds...
well, I did go a little stir-crazy at the end, where 'enough already, LET ME KILL THEM THEY ARE ANNOYING ME!' impulse kicked in... but, I prevailed.
1) if you stash a sleeping guard (or a civilian you naughty person you) in a vent or elevator or bed and come back later to find them dead, it doesn't count as you killing them.
2) making a turret proxy-kill still counts as 'by your hand'.
3) as have been mentioned, tranqrifle to the head can kill. aim for the butt and factor in time for it to take effect.
4) I did the side-quest with the morphine, but didn't give it to him, but he still died and I still got the cheevo.
5) gas grenades and gas mines are your best friends, especially in the end-run with the 28daysl
|Comment #103 by Eleriel|
Thursday, September 08, 2011 @ 07:22:10 AM
5) gas grenades and gas mines are your best friends, especially in the end-run with the 28dayslater-like zombies.
6) I picked up a heavy rifle and modded the sheeeet out of it for boss fights. also got the typhoon aug expressly for those times.
7) I did not save Malik. and I felt like such as arsehole every minute afterwards. especially in the harvester lair. :( achievement didn't feel worth it at that moment.
still I persevered.
8) do as few sidequests as possible, only do the ones you know you can sneak through without worrying. the finding ning quest was tricky. but thankfully the guy on the right of her door is blind (apparently).
|Comment #104 by Blumenfeld|
Thursday, September 08, 2011 @ 01:00:55 PM
this is bullshit. i just played through the game and im one hundred percent sure that i didnt kill anyone besides the bosses, and i still did not get it. Pisses me off!
|Comment #105 by sjpsjpsjp|
Saturday, September 10, 2011 @ 07:46:43 AM
I'm with #104 here - I was *so* careful and still didn't get it! Argh!
|Comment #106 by Eleriel|
Saturday, September 10, 2011 @ 01:00:17 PM
#104+#105 ... did you kill anybody during the tutorial-part of the game?
|Comment #107 by Jcoopy|
Sunday, September 11, 2011 @ 01:02:59 PM
I'm about to get this game has anyone got any tips about anything in-game?
|Comment #108 by MegsonGrove|
Sunday, September 11, 2011 @ 06:29:31 PM
Literally just got this, along with foxiest of the hounds :) Always made sure to check for zzzz whenever i knocked someone out, and always check if you use a tranq rifle as that killed people alot on my game annoyingly. If you're unsure, not 100%, then just reload, definitely worth it in the end. There's bits where i reloaded atleast 20times until i knew the person definitely wasn't dead! :')
|Comment #109 by Brian GT|
Monday, September 12, 2011 @ 02:21:13 PM
Went for this chieve 3 times and wasn't sure what I was doing wrong, but i finally figured it out. **Possible Spoilers**
During the last boss battle I did non-lethal takedowns on the crazies that come for you but forgot to drag their bodies back into the rooms the spawn from, evetually killing them when the floor gets electrified. Really pissed me off when I finally got it because I probably didn't have to do 3 playthroughs, oh well.
|Comment #110 by DerWiderstand|
Monday, September 12, 2011 @ 06:53:22 PM
The only way that's really safe is to check every corpse you stunned. Have been doing this for some time now. One time, I made a kill with the stun gun (headshot), another time I put a tranq dart right into one guys butt and he still died. I would have missed both, hadn't I already been paranoid because I missed it on the first playthrough.
|Comment #111 by Naberios|
Tuesday, September 13, 2011 @ 02:30:37 AM
@102 Thanks for the good info. I was worried about the guards that ended up dying after I stuffed them in a vent. Must frozen to death, I guess.... And I'll be sure to start hoarding gas grenades on my way to that area.
I do have a question though, someone said something about the knocked out guards taht died from the electricity... what if they get electrified while they're still running around(using the 2012 code)? Will that still negate the pacifist achievement?
I've been nervous this whole playthrough that I'll miss something and accidentally kill someone and not catch it. I check and recheck every freaking guard I KO and multi-save constantly....
|Comment #112 by Naberios|
Tuesday, September 13, 2011 @ 02:32:31 AM
Sorry, that was a question about the "zombies", not guards...
|Comment #113 by MegsonGrove|
Tuesday, September 13, 2011 @ 06:10:10 PM
Also meant to say, for the last boss *SPOILERS*. The best way i found to do it was to take out the two turrets with the grenade launcher (one grenade straight at each turret) and then go straight and put the code into the back of the machine (2012). Then drop a EMP mine right infront of the robot door slightly to your left, and then fire grenade/rockets at the glass to break into where Zhao is! And if you haven't got the aug to stop you getting electricuted then stand on one of the guard walls just behind where you put the code in! Hope this helps :)
|Comment #114 by xIZZYx|
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 @ 07:20:24 PM
wen i beat this game without killing anybody, without setting off any alarms, and on the hardest difficulty....i must say i felt like a bad ass
|Comment #115 by Naberios|
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 @ 09:17:44 PM
I finally got this... My tactic was to destroy the 3 turrets(not 2 as someone else mentioned) with my maxed out revolver. When the action starts, it puts you close to cover, so I took cover and leaned out to pop off a shot as one of the turrets would come into view. After it rotated a bit, it would go back to green and I'd pop off another shot. It takes 3 shots from the revolver to destroy each turret, so rinse & repeat. Then I hacked all of the pod control computers. Next I went down & hacked the main control console(even though I knew the code). The second I finished, I cloaked and ran back upstairs, jumped ontop of one of the sections with breakable walls, tossed an EMP grenade at a patrolling bot, and waited until the protective barrier blew. By this time there were no "zombies" left
|Comment #116 by Naberios|
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 @ 09:20:13 PM
*to deal with, and for some reason no other bots came out. Then I pulled out my stun stun gun, ran right up to Zhou and shot her once. All done.
I can confirm that any zombies killed by the electricity discharges from hacking/entering the code on the main control console do NOT effect the Pacifist achievement.
|Comment #117 by WeBison77|
Friday, September 16, 2011 @ 02:00:55 PM
I did it! Finally achieved it yesterday!!
|Comment #118 by Lastchange|
Saturday, September 17, 2011 @ 02:44:29 AM
I was unaware that the stun gun could kill, same with the tranq rifle, I was SOOO careful my 2nd playthrough, but i didnt get the alarm or no killin achiev, kinda a bummer
and for the last boss zhao
I just hid from the turrets, waited for the right moment, ran to the panel, hacked it, ran up to zhao and used laser rifle and that kills her without doing any of the other things
laser rifle shoots through some objects, so yeah
|Comment #119 by Chip Selekt|
Saturday, September 17, 2011 @ 04:33:15 AM
3 for 300!
In my experience I had the box guard during Malik save blow up and kill 3 guys,
HOWEVER, I stunned them before hand so this might have saved me. I used PEP
on a dude who then flew into a wall and died; DID NOT count against me. I never
once encountered the stun gun or tranq gun actually killing anybody. Not sure
what people are talking about.
|Comment #120 by Delete|
Monday, September 19, 2011 @ 07:13:13 PM
If your going for this, chances are your going for the three 100 g's. Just remember to not confront anybody unless you have to (which you don't). You don't need stun guns and tranqs...all you need is the B button. Also the part with Malik....just cloak and let her die.....it doesn't count towards the achievement and it's not gonna have major story elements. Even though the guy is looking at you when he Shoots her, that doesn't count against your foxiest cheevo.
|Comment #121 by bobbitt|
Tuesday, September 20, 2011 @ 01:55:29 PM
I just realized I blew it. Early in the game I punched through a weak wall and an enemy was on the other side. I had (incorrectly) assumed I had knocked him out, but it actually killed him.
So if you've taken someone down through a weak wall, I don't believe you will get this.
Might shed some light on things...
|Comment #122 by SDHoneymonster|
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 06:28:16 PM
Foxtrot - I didn't realise that, I've been going through brutally killing people all along! Did anyone else accidentally hold B a couple of times for a takedown and end up stabbing people with your crazy sword arms? I gave up on this one and just decided to enjoy the game for my first playthrough after that.
|Comment #123 by Shepard|
Friday, September 23, 2011 @ 10:40:22 AM
Today I decided to go for my 3rd playthrough to get Doctorade, Foxiests etc and Pacifist which failed to get on the second playtrhough.
And when I was like 6 hours in game I was ready to go to china and noticed that one of the guys which I shot using the stun gun lying on the couch before the antena in derelict row was dead. And I passed throu that area waaaaay back before my 3 backup saves) to the Cloak and dagger sidequest. I should've let them be, but no, to me was exp sittin' on a couch.
ADVICE: if you are going for the Pacifist Achivement, try no to shoot people with the stun gun or tranquilizer gun if they are seated of close to a wall 'cause it will kill them.
|Comment #124 by Naberios|
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 03:39:48 AM
I got this on my second playthrough(just finished my third, and final(for now)). Best advice I can give, is always double-check for the Zzz after you knock someone out. NEVER assume that what you did didn't kill them. And as stated before, the opening pro-logue mission DOES count, so sneak around them. However, I don't agree with just sneaking past everyone. You lose A TON of XP if you do that. On this last playthrough, I finished with 19 out of the 21 augs fully upgraded and 2 points in another. It made life a lot easier, which was nice playing on the hardest difficulty.
|Comment #125 by Jwood1988|
Sunday, September 25, 2011 @ 03:44:52 AM
Do you Still Get Achievement if The Cops Shot Up the Car and then Ran Beside it as it was blowing up, and i had a guard throw a frag and bounced back beside three of them and kill them (this one was actually funny) when the car blew up that they shot it killed about three of them too,
|Comment #126 by pinkoist|
Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 11:28:46 AM
In response the the stun gun/tranquilizer rifle killing people issue -- I had that happen a few times in the DRB area, I even threw a DRB body causing it to switch from unconscious to dead. The achievement still popped at the end, was a bit surprised that I still got it.
|Comment #127 by Naberios|
Saturday, October 01, 2011 @ 09:52:06 AM
You're playing Pacifist and you have cops shooting at you? WTF are you doing? If you're really going for this achievement, stop attacking cops....
|Comment #128 by highfiveghost86|
Sunday, October 02, 2011 @ 08:18:45 PM
fml, i busted through a wall and snapped a guys neck near the end and didn't realize it, womp womp
|Comment #129 by Shiva Harris|
Thursday, October 06, 2011 @ 01:32:37 PM
Do you have to keep Sandoval from shooting himself? Also, the side mission where you throw Diamond Chan off the roof... will that cause you to fail this achievment?
|Comment #130 by Argus|
Friday, October 07, 2011 @ 10:08:31 AM
Just as #123 said if tran. or stun someone near a object they are leaning on, it might kill them. I got this achievement along with not setting off any alarms and on "Give Me Deus Ex".
|Comment #131 by AbleToes|
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 @ 11:05:43 PM
I just got this finished. Few things:
1) Robots DO NOT COUNT. EMP the hell out of them; they aren't human.
2) Boss Fights not counting means exactly that. Use lethal weapons.
3) The zombie crowds at the end aren't hard to get by with stealth or even
use Gas Grenades/Mines.
4) Also, be wary of breaking through walls with people on the other side. If they're too close to the wall, your hand will glow blue before the punch and you will automatically snap their neck.
I do have one question though: Do turrets hacked to kill enemies screw this
Achievement? I never used turrets or robots against anyone so I don't know.
Got it anyhow.
|Comment #132 by Artemadorous|
Wednesday, October 12, 2011 @ 11:55:29 PM
What a crap achievement. Beat this game twice without killing anyone. Checked every guy I knocked out for Zzzs and I STILL didn't get the achievement. Trading this in tomorrow.
|Comment #133 by its delicious|
Sunday, October 23, 2011 @ 11:24:01 PM
Because the game never directs you to the hostages in the factory, I never knew they were there! So I had never rescued hostages and later the cops shot up the Purity First members. So onto play-through #4... :|
|Comment #134 by Kerethos|
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 02:29:58 PM
As far as I know causing the death of anyone in any way; such as hacking a turret or robot that in turn kills them, or by causing them to fall and die from fall damage or electricity, will make you unable to get this achievement.
The easiest way to get this one seems to be simply quickly sneak your way through the game, avoiding most of the fighting and only knocking out guards that are blocking your way forward. And also you cannot kill anyone during the intro part, before you're augmented.
Also, using the Laser Rifle will let you bypass the shield around the final boss, meaning you don't have to let the enemies in - thus they don't risk dying and ruining this achievement.
|Comment #135 by TariKing|
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 10:16:18 PM
i´m trying de "3 for 300G", but i had a doubt... if i accidentaly kill someone, but reload before the kill, it doesn´t count as a death, does it?
|Comment #136 by kinomi|
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 04:25:37 AM
Yes, a turret that you've hacked to kill enemies will negate this - disable or avoid them. @TariKing: If you reload before the kill , you'll be fine.
Also , does anyone know if they've sorted out the KO'd enemies randomly dying thing? or is that only if you tranq/stun them in the head it happens? I've been sortof holding off going for this one cos of that happening.
At the very least, seems to be an overall good idea to ignore the side mission to take down the DRB guy .. He's got a weak heart or something and tends to spontaneously die more often than not...
|Comment #137 by small12345|
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 06:17:57 PM
|Comment #138 by iHazard xD|
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 06:49:44 PM
This game is boring.
|Comment #139 by Xiraoffire78|
Wednesday, November 30, 2011 @ 09:54:59 PM
I just got this achievement today. I was kinda worried when waiting for the final cutscene to finish, because I was worried if something stupid happen that I did not know about.
|Comment #140 by Kuraikoto|
Thursday, December 01, 2011 @ 09:30:26 PM
Just finished the game for the first time. I was going for Foxiest/Pacifist. I did get Foxiest but apparently one of my tranq darts killed someone. -_- Not sure I feel like playing as a pacifist twice in a row.
|Comment #141 by TheEarthsMyTurf|
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 09:27:19 AM
This achievement is bullsh*t. I played the whole entire game only doing normal take
downs, and killing all 4 bosses, but I didn't get it, so i replayed, not touching anybody
apart from one person because he was standing in front of a door i had to hack,
all he got was a punch in the face, killed the first 3 bosses and tazered the last one
and I still didn't get it so apparently that guard died of a punched face, this achievement can bugger off.
|Comment #142 by TheEarthsMyTurf|
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 09:29:10 AM
Then again Malik died in the accident thing, maybe that was it =/
|Comment #143 by Bukman716|
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 @ 08:13:29 AM
yes i thought tranq darts were just supposed to knock em out? mine kills them
|Comment #144 by TheEarthsMyTurf|
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:05:02 AM
Woohoo :) just got this today :) I went through the game not touching anybody.
I literally did like 3 takedowns (Everyone that you do take down, check for the Zzz next to the search option, if they have a skull looking thing then you've killed them.
Check everybody that you stun, tranquilize, or knock-out because some of them do die!)
On the last level I shot out the Turrets with my revolver, and emp'd the robots, then the doors opened, but the nutty people stayed inside the little bunker bit so I gas grenaded them end then used the laser rifle through the glass to defeat, the boss lady :)
If the nutty people run out knock them out quickly and drag them inside before they get electrocuted. Hope this helps :)
|Comment #145 by Yoda8myhead|
Monday, December 19, 2011 @ 11:07:02 PM
In the intro, before getting augmented, I shot a tank of gas and it filled a crowded room with gas. I forgot the check and see whether the people died or not. Anyone know if that's a lethal method of taking down foes or non-lethal?
|Comment #146 by Hellhog|
Tuesday, December 20, 2011 @ 07:32:11 AM
I'm starting to wonder if I messed up Pacifist. I'm 6.5 hours into my first playthrough now. Just finished the first hostage mission then visited LIMB.
I did use my stungun once on a guy looking out a window in the first mission
then immediately knocked the guy out next to the turret he was fixing. I
never checked if they were unconcsious or dead. I had assumed they would
just be taking a nap. I don't want to start over, but I don't want to go
through the whole game only to realize I messed this up. My first playthrough
is supposed to be like an experience aspect for me. While latter ones are for
different routes/methods and achievements. Uhg. What to do.
|Comment #147 by GP MASTER SAM F|
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 02:26:16 PM
So pissed this one didn't unlock for me on the first run through on Give me Dues Ex difficulty. I was very careful to only use non-lethal and I did get the Foxiest of Hounds. Did all side missions and still missed a few things. So... Now playing again and checking everyone's vitals after takedown.
|Comment #148 by St4rf0x3r|
Tuesday, January 10, 2012 @ 10:03:02 PM
Never killed anybody but I tranq'd a gangbanger early on in the game who must have died from it. I got too far into the game to start over when I checked his nody and saw the skull so I prayed it was just a glitch. I was wrong! Playthrough number two starting...
|Comment #149 by TJRH|
Friday, January 13, 2012 @ 08:37:18 AM
free microsoft points!
just visit this website
|Comment #150 by abzdon|
Sunday, January 22, 2012 @ 11:06:13 AM
i dont get it!!!!!
|Comment #151 by abzdon|
Sunday, January 22, 2012 @ 11:08:54 AM
i dont get it!!!!!
|Comment #152 by bakusaiga|
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 05:53:47 PM
|Comment #153 by Peter File|
Friday, January 27, 2012 @ 06:48:06 AM
same here mate,, got foxiest but no pacifist,,
i did get a glitch tho.. i stunned a guard.. seen the ZZZ and saved,,
when i reloaded the save he had the skull icon instead?!
if it wasnt that then i dont know where i went wrong!!
does it matter if you give the hacker the gun??
thats the only thing i can think of.. because i skipped the 2 side quests that involve pushing chan and giving that bloke the morphine..
|Comment #154 by Zachagawea|
Monday, February 06, 2012 @ 10:05:58 AM
Does the achievement still work if you kill the robot guarddog bot things.
|Comment #155 by Curly Turdz|
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 @ 09:55:20 AM
robots and anything not human is fine to kill, however try not to kill them where possible, otherwise you'll get lots of un-needed aggravation from ppl you don't want to kill
|Comment #156 by HVAC Techie|
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 06:44:07 PM
Fucking shit, a stupid guard walked into a Frag Mine in Taggart's Aid's sewer bunker... the wikia says that can cancel out Pacifist. I swear, if I lost the achievement because of some scripted AI movements, I'm ragequitting for awhile. I'll post back here, I guess, if I get Pacifist or not.
|Comment #157 by HVAC Techie|
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 02:59:39 PM
I'm amazed, it popped. I guess the devs were smart enough to think of that.
|Comment #158 by Texez|
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 @ 04:17:01 PM
Okay, can you only sneak past the first two combat guards in the tutorial? I've had no option to melee or take down and it's driving me nuts.
|Comment #159 by DJBunce|
Sunday, March 25, 2012 @ 12:02:30 PM
Mine bugged too... Sad times indeed
|Comment #160 by Mr. Olaf|
Saturday, April 21, 2012 @ 08:58:58 AM
Crap! Didn't get it! Obviously I killed somebody during the game... Damn...
|Comment #161 by MartyMcFly|
Saturday, May 05, 2012 @ 02:19:56 PM
Much like #148, I tranq'd a guy, and I think I shot him in the neck, and it showed the skull logo, not the zzz's.
And of course I already saved over any other recent save I had, so I have no choice but to keep going.
|Comment #162 by ttdrevan|
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 @ 02:17:03 PM
Bullshit, just completed the game, got Foxiest, Legend. Triple checked every body, almost never used any gun, 99% non lethal takedown, didn't punch through wall, didn't set turrets to kill somebody, didn't kill anyone in prologue and it didn't unlock.
I have absolutely no idea what I did wrong
|Comment #163 by Seekredemption9|
Wednesday, May 23, 2012 @ 01:54:41 AM
This must be the hardest achievement in the game!
|Comment #164 by hadeskagemusha|
Sunday, June 10, 2012 @ 11:36:01 AM
what a bullshit, enemies going through the floor after being shot by the stungun seem to cancel this cheevo -_-
|Comment #165 by darkmikasonfire|
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 05:07:34 PM
Don't toss all your knocked out enemies into the same spot, eventually they'll start to die for no reason at all. I'm assuming that the game is so good that it see it as eventually the weight of other knocked out enemies being on top of them kills them, if that's not the case, then it's because of complete bullshit.
|Comment #166 by DarkMellie|
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 09:50:14 AM
Missed it as well, I was so careful too :(
|Comment #167 by Werewolf 115|
Saturday, July 14, 2012 @ 07:46:14 AM
|Comment #168 by NW JT Punk|
Monday, July 16, 2012 @ 03:25:17 PM
Question, I blew up a robot with an EMP mine the resulting explosion killed 1 or 2 surrounding soldiers does this count as technically I never touched them, although maybe any dead within the blast radius bit the bullet too. Please help as I don't know whether to soldier on or restart from before this part
|Comment #169 by Abraxas|
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 @ 05:47:57 PM
Be careful when you move bodies around. I had a savefile with two sleeping guys, as soon as I pressed X to move them the Zzz turned into a skull and this happened every time I reloaded. So if you need to move someone try to be gentle :)
|Comment #170 by Restartz|
Sunday, August 19, 2012 @ 08:32:56 PM
This doesn't seem hard but... seems kinda annoying
|Comment #171 by nemonobody|
Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 02:54:10 PM
Possibly the most glitched achievement i have ever come across.
|Comment #172 by NebuCHADnezzary|
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 05:10:46 PM
I had to play through the final boss battle again, because I accidentally shot some of the guards. The second attempt at the final boss I used the plasma rifle on the turrets, the stun gun on all the people (including the three bound women), EMP Grenades on the bots, and I took out Zhao with my Typhoon.
|Comment #173 by Aeterna Hope|
Monday, November 26, 2012 @ 08:03:11 AM
Dropping diamond chan negates this
Directly killing the guy by giving him morphine negates this(if you dont give morphine but he still dies your fine)
Hacking turrets and robots to kill will negate
Intro guards dying will negate
Hope this saves some people agony :0
|Comment #174 by quazzon|
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 @ 03:26:29 AM
This is ridiculous.
|Comment #175 by Scorpion485|
Saturday, December 08, 2012 @ 01:18:41 PM
I'm getting towards the end of Panchea and I'm in the gas-filed room. Will turning on the bots to kill the crazy guys ruin the achievement? There have been other times where I could have done this, but decided not to just in case. Right now, I don't see a way around it. If it will ruin it, how can I get around them?
|Comment #176 by Flynnigan|
Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 09:59:45 AM
Oh my lord, I gave Bradford the morphine and that negates the achievement? What a fucking joke. I didn't kill a single person in this playthrough!
|Comment #177 by Flynnigan|
Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 10:03:33 AM
#175, activating the bots against the enemies will ruin the achievement because you get XP for their deaths.
|Comment #178 by MorbidEclipse24|
Wednesday, January 02, 2013 @ 10:42:18 AM
This is actually a lot easier than what people make it out to be. I was definately glad that this popped at the end tho. I can finally go back and destroy everyone that i wanted to.. with no worries. :-)
|Comment #179 by kobados|
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 @ 03:07:51 PM
you can reload checkpoint
|Comment #180 by DEATHMODE974|
Thursday, March 28, 2013 @ 04:16:11 PM
Ok, so the first sequence, with non-augmented Adam counts toward this achievement? Is that correct?
Damn, I can't sneak past those assholes!
And also, I realized when I came back to Detroit after being sent to China, that a guy I KO'd (B button, not weapons) was dead. WTF?! It totally messed it up for me and it was too late to restart.
|Comment #181 by Zombii Panda|
Friday, May 03, 2013 @ 04:01:51 AM
Yeah, I've tranquilized people in the head and killed them. Stupid. :l Didn't even know this achievement existed til now so it hurts all the more.
|Comment #182 by Arthuro906|
Tuesday, May 14, 2013 @ 11:17:36 AM
This one was not that hard, just spent your points on Stealth and Knock-Out Abilities and always use tranqilizer weapons. It won´t be that hard if you do it on your Second run.
|Comment #183 by gearsaddicted4life|
Wednesday, July 03, 2013 @ 02:29:00 PM
Completed my first playthrough and killed a couple of guards on last boss level, luring them into electricity. Cheevo didnt pop. So reloaded previous save and knocked the guards out first before electric touched them. Confirm Pacifist cheevo unlocked. Just to note before I entered D-Row via the wall that can be blown up. U have to walk on some pipe around a building to other side. I knocked out one gang member and tranq gunned the other, both showing zzz. When I went back to the area shortly after they were showing skull & crossbones. So it's ok if this happens
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