Keystone - TIPS on playing

[xepherys]

Well, for both the purpose of getting points in Keystone to unlock further games, not losing (and likely MAKING some money) and generally taking care of business, I recommend the following:

Play the standard (green) 50-200 Keystone. Place 100 arch bet on 7, and 100 on 13. These generally go out during a game, and if you win both, your arch take is 312 (made 112, not much, but it's better than losing it all).

Bet 100 each roll on either 4-9 or 12-17 based on the odds it'll hit that side (yes, statistically it can be said that there are ALWAYS 50/50 odds, but in a stats group, if it just landed 4-9 3x in a row, it's more likely to hit 12-17 than hit 4-9 4x in a row). You will lose no more than 100 per roll. Each win at 33:20 odds will bring in 265g (a profit of 165). As long as you win 33% of the time, you'll break about even.

[blackflame0729]

Great man thx! I goto go do this!

[xepherys]

Okay, I've revised this after playing through the tournaments. For tournament play, I have a "safe" but pretty effective way to go.

Each round, use the following bets:

ARCH: max on 3,18; min on 4,5,6,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,16,17; nothing on 10,11

INSIDE: max on 4~9, 12~17, BLACK, RED, DIAMOND, OVAL; min on Run, Trips

10,11 won't get you much, either as part of your arch bet, OR by choosing "Keystone" as the odds are lower. Run and Trips make up for themselves after just one win on trips or two on run in a single game.

Just keep using RB to bet the same each roll and you should place almost every time. Unless the keystones fall first, then you are SOL no matter what you did.

[Matrarch]

I pretty much used the same strategy, just I'd pick a number (usually 7-9) and place a max bet on it to try to get a little more money. It wasn't always successful, but when it worked, it made things real simple.

[Fruhmann360]

i did the same thing for the solo game and tourney. it did right by me.

MAX BETS ON ALL, FOREVER!
arch bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18
inside bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18

i only had to redo the 4 star tourney once. the rest i was in the top three and if i was in first it was always 10k above the second place person.


you get those hiccup round where the keystone are shot in 2-4 rounds, but on the rounds where the four keystones are the only ones left make up for it.

[Brigade]

For unlocking all the games, I just used the glitch and jacked up a massive bankroll on tower, then played the 5 star Keystone and threw down massive bets on just about everything to gain points fast.

For the tournaments, I rolled through them betting 4-7 and 14-17 x3, then plunking down 2 or 3x bet on all the triples, as well as double and run. Most plays I would either break even, or come out slightly ahead (unless a triple hit, then I made massive bank).

[SENTACOLIS]

I'm seeing improvement with the first stradegy

[blackflame0729]

Originally Posted by Fruhmann360

i did the same thing for the solo game and tourney. it did right by me.

arch bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18
inside bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18

i only had to redo the 4 star tourney once. the rest i was in the top three and if i was in first it was always 10k above the second place person.

What bets did you put on each? Min?

[Fruhmann360]

Originally Posted by blackflame0729

What bets did you put on each? Min?

nah, baby. i maxed it out. i noticed that putting a bid on anything from 8-13 didn't even cover what i was bidding on the inside. i'll edit that post.

[codeman420]

Originally Posted by Fruhmann360

nah, baby. i maxed it out. i noticed that putting a bid on anything from 8-13 didn't even cover what i was bidding on the inside. i'll edit that post.

Hell i dont know how yours worked cause if you roll a 8-13 you lose all that money and you dont make any of it back.

[Motrahtox]

After struggling through numerous Keystone tournaments I finally found something on the xbox forums that is relatively consistent.

All you have to do is in each game bet the minimum on one arch and then just dont bet on anything and just roll the dice. You will stay near your starting value of goal while the computer usually keeps on betting and draining their cash.

For the most part I was coming in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd which is all you need really since you only need to place in the top five.

Only on some rare instances did the computer hit it big with jackpots and knock you out of contention.

I hope this helps anyone who isnt having the best of luck in Keystone

[ForeverMash]

From my own experience, tossing down max bets on all six three-of-a-kind's, along with Trips, was the easiest way of placing in every tournament. You'll get about 15(ish) rolls, and if one hits three-of-a-kind, stop betting and you're pretty much garantueed first place.

There's a chance you'll end up without cash before the three-of-a-kind gets rolled, but if that's the case, just restart the tournament. The entry fee is easily won back from placing first.

[Fruhmann360]

Originally Posted by codeman420

Hell i dont know how yours worked cause if you roll a 8-13 you lose all that money and you dont make any of it back.

Originally Posted by Fruhmann360

nah, baby. i maxed it out. i noticed that putting a bid on anything from 8-13 didn't even cover what i was bidding on the inside. i'll edit that post.

too long? didn't read?

[nCogNeato]

Originally Posted by xepherys

Okay, I've revised this after playing through the tournaments. For tournament play, I have a "safe" but pretty effective way to go.

Each round, use the following bets:

ARCH: max on 3,18; min on 4,5,6,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,16,17; nothing on 10,11

INSIDE: max on 4~9, 12~17, BLACK, RED, DIAMOND, OVAL; min on Run, Trips

10,11 won't get you much, either as part of your arch bet, OR by choosing "Keystone" as the odds are lower. Run and Trips make up for themselves after just one win on trips or two on run in a single game.

Just keep using RB to bet the same each roll and you should place almost every time. Unless the keystones fall first, then you are SOL no matter what you did.

Thanks, xepherys. This is the first method that has consistently worked for me. I've tried a few other suggestions, but this finally helped me win the tournaments.

[J0K3R5AN]

Originally Posted by Fruhmann360

i did the same thing for the solo game and tourney. it did right by me.

MAX BETS ON ALL, FOREVER!
arch bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18
inside bet: 3 - 7 and 14 - 18

i only had to redo the 4 star tourney once. the rest i was in the top three and if i was in first it was always 10k above the second place person.


you get those hiccup round where the keystone are shot in 2-4 rounds, but on the rounds where the four keystones are the only ones left make up for it.

yeah your strategy didnt work at all for me. tried it 5 times and each time got last place.

ive found that if i dont bet at all i usually win cause every one else will lose enough to get me at least 5th.

[Fruhmann360]

yeah, man. i just went through the tourney on my second profile. it was a nightmare. i actually housed the whole tourney this way:

Arch: doesn't matter, put Min bid on 1 keystone
Inside: 8-13 MAX
and covering 4-9 and 12 - 17 sporadically.

i was never a great lead ahead when i placed 3rd - 5th, but it worked. i wrapped up the ***** tourney in dis belief.

wtf is this games problem?

[Powerman1469]

thank you xepherys this helped me out alot. hate thses kinda games lol

[o Danger Doom o]

Thanx Bro im gonna try this right now

[x_Silxx_x]

Originally Posted by J0K3R5AN

ive found that if i dont bet at all i usually win cause every one else will lose enough to get me at least 5th.

I only needed to win the 1st keystone for the achievement and 200G, did exactly that and won, LOL

[Rolyatkcinmai]

Originally Posted by xepherys

Each round, use the following bets:

ARCH: max on 3,18; min on 4,5,6,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,16,17; nothing on 10,11

INSIDE: max on 4~9, 12~17, BLACK, RED, DIAMOND, OVAL; min on Run, Trips

10,11 won't get you much, either as part of your arch bet, OR by choosing "Keystone" as the odds are lower. Run and Trips make up for themselves after just one win on trips or two on run in a single game.

Just keep using RB to bet the same each roll and you should place almost every time. Unless the keystones fall first, then you are SOL no matter what you did.

So far doing exactly this through 5 tournaments has gotten me a net loss of 2,000 per game. I've come in last every single time.

Maybe I just have crap luck.

[discostu1337]

Keystone blows and is un-winnable unless you happen to hit one of the bottom 3-of-a-kind bets in a Tournament...which I haven't

[Taker447]

This worked for me on the first and second tourny and now i'm stuck getting past the others. playing keystone is nearly as bad as spinnerbox which i can't even win!

[Preedatore]

Originally Posted by Motrahtox

After struggling through numerous Keystone tournaments I finally found something on the xbox forums that is relatively consistent.

All you have to do is in each game bet the minimum on one arch and then just dont bet on anything and just roll the dice. You will stay near your starting value of goal while the computer usually keeps on betting and draining their cash.

For the most part I was coming in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd which is all you need really since you only need to place in the top five.

Only on some rare instances did the computer hit it big with jackpots and knock you out of contention.

I hope this helps anyone who isnt having the best of luck in Keystone

This is how I did it and placed in all 5 in a total of about 10 tries. If I didn't place I finished in 6th. If you break even you have a good chance of placing in Keystone.

[o Danger Doom o]

I Think the folks who did this got really lucky cause it aint workin for me

[o Danger Doom o]

Originally Posted by Preedatore

This is how I did it and placed in all 5 in a total of about 10 tries. If I didn't place I finished in 6th. If you break even you have a good chance of placing in Keystone.

I Think the folks who did this got really lucky cause it aint workin for me

[o Danger Doom o]

Originally Posted by Fruhmann360

yeah, man. i just went through the tourney on my second profile. it was a nightmare. i actually housed the whole tourney this way:

Arch: doesn't matter, put Min bid on 1 keystone
Inside: 8-13 MAX
and covering 4-9 and 12 - 17 sporadically.

i was never a great lead ahead when i placed 3rd - 5th, but it worked. i wrapped up the ***** tourney in dis belief.

wtf is this games problem?

this is by far the best strategy on here it worked great 4 me and i placed no lower than third in each tourney. THANX BRO

[Darth Cuda]

I found a unique strategy i won 2 tournys 1st place and alot 2nd place: Bet on all 4 glowing stones (yes i know you will take a loss but it has to hit 2) then bet little nothing every round in 1 -2 star games i was noticing that all players were actually losing money everyround so i just bet the min and won. i won 3 star this way but the odds aren't as good.

[Lutzie]

My strategy for Keystone is to place max bets on the 3 and 18 arches, and then only bet on all the trips, and the trips itself. This gives you a 6/216 cahcne of getting a result (1 in 36) which will give you a massive payout. Once you get it, stop betting.

You'll either finish last in the tournament, or 1st, no middle ground. Odds on, you'll win each tournament on your first or second attempt

[CRASHTEST]

Originally Posted by ForeverMash

From my own experience, tossing down max bets on all six three-of-a-kind's, along with Trips, was the easiest way of placing in every tournament. You'll get about 15(ish) rolls, and if one hits three-of-a-kind, stop betting and you're pretty much garantueed first place.

There's a chance you'll end up without cash before the three-of-a-kind gets rolled, but if that's the case, just restart the tournament. The entry fee is easily won back from placing first.

This is the route i choose worked great didnt have to try each game more than a couple of times

[HouzeHeadz]

Originally Posted by CRASHTEST

This is the route i choose worked great didnt have to try each game more than a couple of times

Yeah this method has worked est for me a well.