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Old 07-03-2012, 01:39 PM   #31
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If all games on the next gen consoles don't run at 60fps, I will be very disappointed.
Agreed, sure people will say "Oh 30fps doesn't really matter" but if you went from 60fps tight controls to 30fps you would notice instantly how much slower it handles.
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Am I misinterpreting what you're saying? If I am then my bad.
All I am saying is, you can do well at Halo if you don't have a lot of skill at shooters because the game is more newbie friendly compared to other shooters. I was using the melee beatdown in halo as an example to how easy it is to get a kill even if you're not that best at it. Hopefully that is more clear now


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Agreed, sure people will say "Oh 30fps doesn't really matter" but if you went from 60fps tight controls to 30fps you would notice instantly how much slower it handles.
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All I am saying is, you can do well at Halo if you don't have a lot of skill at shooters because the game is more newbie friendly compared to other shooters.
Again i disagree, i guess it depends on the situation. Again going back to "Ranked matches" in Halo 3, you're matched up with people equivalent of your skill, thus it is harder to preform better.

COD is different, you get a range of opponents, from being gods at the game to being badkids, but regardless of that, catch a good player of guard and you've got your kill. In Halo it doesn't work like that.

But then again i guess many factors are involved when determining if a game is more "noob friendly" than another.
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Oh the advantage to running at 60FPS.
Yeah... because framerate is all I care about...

I used to like Halo a lot. Then some friends got me to play Black Ops and I played that for a while. Now, I don't enjoy either of them.

Battlefield 3 is far better than the last couple games in either the CoD or Halo series. Though this opinion is based solely on the multiplayer. Considering you (Dave) said you only played the demos for Halo, it's safe to assume you're only referring to the campaigns. In which case, I think Halo wins. Solely on the basis of being unique. There's only so many times I can fight nazis in Stalingrad, trudge through the jungles of Vietnam, or stop Russia from starting WWIII. I'll take fighting colorful aliens over that any day. Especially colorful aliens that are smarter than unlevened bread.

The whole skill debate is pointless, as well. Considering everyone is biased. If you're terrible at a game, you're likely to say the game is for noobs. (I should know, I'm not that god at CoD) But if you're great at a game, it's likely to require more skill than the other game in your opinion.

But if you really want to put the Halo vs CoD in terms of skill thing to the test... go play SWAT in Halo Reach. If you can get decent scores in SWAT, you'll be a better FPS player. This is a fact.
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Again i disagree, i guess it depends on the situation. Again going back to "Ranked matches" in Halo 3, you're matched up with people equivalent of your skill, thus it is harder to preform better.

COD is different, you get a range of opponents, from being gods at the game to being badkids, but regardless of that, catch a good player of guard and you've got your kill. In Halo it doesn't work like that.

But then again i guess many factors are involved when determining if a game is more "noob friendly" than another.
Back when i played Halo 3 online, or even watched my friends/brothers play, it's still the same way as Gackt described. 3/4 of the kills in every match was usually beatdowns, and or BR kills. Which BR's don't really have recoil, so therefore it's way too noob friendly. Although I think both CoD, and Halo are noob friendly games one way or the other.
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Yeah... because framerate is all I care about...
No need to be sarcastic, it was merely an observation that the frame rate does contribute to the responsive arcade style controls. I still play the other games regardless anyway because they are fun.
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Back when i played Halo 3 online, or even watched my friends/brothers play, it's still the same way as Gackt described. 3/4 of the kills in every match was usually beatdowns, and or BR kills. Which BR's don't really have recoil, so therefore it's way too noob friendly. Although I think both CoD, and Halo are noob friendly games one way or the other.
Yea beatdowns are the main problem. The BR takes skill to use (assuming you're having a BR dogfight) The only reason why i say Halo is less newbie friendly is due to ranked matches. Because it places similar skilled people with each other (instead of getting good people or bad people). But I don't see beatdown kills that much. Were you playing social?
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No need to be sarcastic, it was merely an observation that the frame rate does contribute to the responsive arcade style controls. I still play the other games regardless anyway because they are fun.
lol nothing meant by it dude.

I guess I could explain it a little better.

I'll take a solid 30fps framerate and dedicated servers, over a locked 60fps and a host based multiplayer client any day.
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lol nothing meant by it dude.

I guess I could explain it a little better.

I'll take a solid 30fps framerate and dedicated servers, over a locked 60fps and a host based multiplayer client any day.
That's what happens when you read when slightly tired

For this generation i'd take that definitely, hate player hosting. But if possible to have both next-gen then all the more amazing imo.
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Yea beatdowns are the main problem. The BR takes skill to use (assuming you're having a BR dogfight) The only reason why i say Halo is less newbie friendly is due to ranked matches. Because it places similar skilled people with each other (instead of getting good people or bad people). But I don't see beatdown kills that much. Were you playing social?
No i usually hate to play social matches, unless if i really can't play well on certain days, then i'll stick to social since it's usually noobs/decent people at best.
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No i usually hate to play social matches, unless if i really can't play well on certain days, then i'll stick to social since it's usually noobs/decent people at best.
What gametype were you playing and what skill were you? If you were a low skill then obviously everyone uses basic tactics.
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What gametype were you playing and what skill were you? If you were a low skill then obviously everyone uses basic tactics.
Hard to remember. I know i used to do a lot of Team Slayer, and usually if it wasn't that i would play Doubles, or FFA. I would be able to tell you the rank if i remembered how the ranking system worked in that game lol.
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I prefer games like Unreal Tournament and Nexuiz, they get my heart rate up since they can be fast paced and exciting.
I dislike the MP modes of CoD and Halo, they're just not the same as darting around an arena quite like UT. The Campaigns are ok though.
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Hard to remember. I know i used to do a lot of Team Slayer, and usually if it wasn't that i would play Doubles, or FFA. I would be able to tell you the rank if i remembered how the ranking system worked in that game lol.
Well after some searching, it seemed that you were a skill of 20 in team slayer. So i don't blame all of the beatdowns and such happening.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStat...EliteShadowMan

EDIT: after further searching you were a skill of 15 in team doubles

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStat...EliteShadowMan

so like i said before, these tactics would happen at lower skill levels.
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I would rather copy Buzz, since it's the same I would do.. Kinda weird how we always think the same :/ lol
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Well after some searching, it seemed that you were a skill of 20 in team slayer. So i don't blame all of the beatdowns and such happening.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStat...EliteShadowMan

EDIT: after further searching you were a skill of 15 in team doubles

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStat...EliteShadowMan

so like i said before, these tactics would happen at lower skill levels.
Well i did forget to add that i got my xbox in early 2009, and would only play it really when my friends did (which wasn't too often). I did play it a lot on my brothers xbox as well, although i don't know what rank he was in those playlists. Maybe around a 30, but i did notice it happened a little less as you rank up like you said. Just overall it seems to happen way more than it should.
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No. He's saying that the game is too easy and he likes a challenge. Anyone one can play it and be good at it which is not the same as the game being good.
That is exactly what I was saying
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It does depend on what type of gaming experience you want to have. I find that I really have to focus and try at Call of Duty, which can be fun and challenging at times, but sometimes its nice to just sit back and enjoy some straight out fun which halo is great for. If you did want that focus / challenge type of play, halo also has SWAT, which is absolutely amazing.
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Hmm...Halo is probably better for me. In that I play both MP and single player. COD is usually just the single player, a little bit of the MP and then I'm done with it.
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I would go with Halo, just because of Co-Op Campaign.
Now as far as multiplayer, that is something entirely different.
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I'm just going to weigh in on this whole ordeal over Halo being "noob" friendly. I don't know if I can exactly agree with that. I think if you took someone who has never played a video game a day in their lives and had them play each they'd be on equal footing on how they did in each. Somethings would be slightly harder/easier in each game but for the most part they'd have a hard time with each.

In terms of sheer amount of kills a "noob" can get in a match I'd say that Call of Duty is much easier. Firing at the hip or spraying.. whatever you want to call it, I've seen lots of players have success with that approach. In Halo you have to factor in shields and numerous other things.. it's just a lot harder to kill someone before they kill you, from a "noob" standpoint.

Though in Call of Duty's defense I think they'd have a much harder time navigating the maps and becoming familiar with them enough to know where to watch out for people to come out of.

Personally I just find Halo to be a far more enjoyable game. I really hate anything that isn't objective based but on Halo I really don't mind playing a deathmatch or two. So that speaks volumes for the game.. least for me..

But when it comes to what I prefer in a shooter. Halo all the way.. and I'm not even that fond of those types of games to begin with. Their objective type games are a lot more enjoyable and the maps are a lot more enjoyable.

Though.. I did have Call of Duty on the PC way back when. Whatever one World at War was, think that was the name. Remember having all of those people in a match. So many things going on.. the vehicles.. it was just a great experience. That's what I get when I play Halo.

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