C4..God dayum.

[B A R 4 D]

I only just started using C4 after being killed by them so much in close quarters and I realised how powerful and fun they are! I'm not talking about chucking them at tanks like the way they should be used but actually placing them near flag points in conquest and then waiting..

A bit cheap tbh but it always works and you're always in for multiple kills. I've been doing it today for a few games and I always finished around 20 for 2 or 3 deaths so not only does it keep your K/D healthy (if you really care about that) but it also guarantees a flag to be defended by one solely player which can only lead to a win. It gets boring after a while but what I'm just wondering is if anyone else uses C4 this way, or what I just explained would be considered just plain damn wrong?

[mark197205]

Originally Posted by himalaybarad

I only just started using C4 after being killed by them so much in close quarters and I realised how powerful and fun they are! I'm not talking about chucking them at tanks like the way they should be used but actually placing them near flag points in conquest and then waiting..

A bit cheap tbh but it always works and you're always in for multiple kills. I've been doing it today for a few games and I always finished around 20 for 2 or 3 deaths so not only does it keep your K/D healthy (if you really care about that) but it also guarantees a flag to be defended by one solely player which can only lead to a win. It gets boring after a while but what I'm just wondering is if anyone else uses C4 this way, or what I just explained would be considered just plain damn wrong?

Oh yeah, I've used C4 quite a bit when playing CqDom, added almost 100 kills with it in just a few hours.

[TheLegendOf1977]

On Domination its cheap, but doesn't bother me that much. What DOES bother me though is using it the way it's supposed! My standard class is Support, and i used to love that class.
But the usefullness of C4 is horrible when trying to use it like u should: blast radius of a mile (resulting in suicide 70% of the time) and i need AT LEAST 3 to even disable a tank!
This, compared with the fact that all Support weapons are shit since the update + the fact that claymores and C4 dissappear after dying (but for some reason the engineer gets to keep his planted mines) makes me furious and hate the class more and more....

[gealt]

I agree C4 is awesome!

Originally Posted by TheLegendOf1977

On Domination its cheap, but doesn't bother me that much. What DOES bother me though is using it the way it's supposed! My standard class is Support, and i used to love that class.
But the usefullness of C4 is horrible when trying to use it like u should: blast radius of a mile (resulting in suicide 70% of the time) and i need AT LEAST 3 to even disable a tank!
This, compared with the fact that all Support weapons are shit since the update + the fact that claymores and C4 dissappear after dying (but for some reason the engineer gets to keep his planted mines) makes me furious and hate the class more and more....

Just an FYI: 3 blocks of C4 will destroy a tank unless it has reactive armour then you need 5, if you really suicide 70% of the time you're doing something wrong, you don't need to be very far away to survive, throw 3 bricks on (or 5) turn around and sprint for 2 seconds and blow it, you'll be fine.

[TheLegendOf1977]

Originally Posted by gealt

I agree C4 is awesome!


Just an FYI: 3 blocks of C4 will destroy a tank unless it has reactive armour then you need 5, if you really suicide 70% of the time you're doing something wrong, you don't need to be very far away to survive, throw 3 bricks on (or 5) turn around and sprint for 2 seconds and blow it, you'll be fine.

But thats the problem: with enemies shooting, the tank shooting/driving over me i either die of blowing the C4 too soon or by enemy fire, either way i cant win...

[gealt]

Originally Posted by TheLegendOf1977

But thats the problem: with enemies shooting, the tank shooting/driving over me i either die of blowing the C4 too soon or by enemy fire, either way i cant win...

C4'ing a tank is basically the equivalent of knifing someone in the back, you need to be sneaky. Pay attention to where the main gun/MG are pointed as that will be their camera view, try to approach from the opposite direction. Look for clues that the crew are using proximity scan, I like to move around in a building or behind cover near enough to the tank that I'd show up, but still in a place where I'm "safe", if they know you're there chances are they've got it on and you need to be extremely careful. Wait till the tank is actively engaging another target. Try not to approach the tank from the front/rear as you may be roadkilled. If possible use vertical gameplay to aide your endeavor, if you can throw the C4 off the roof of a building without placing yourself in danger that's far better than running right up to it. Try laying "traps" on commonly traveled paths to/from objectives, stay in a safe vantage point. Also, jihad jeeps are great for avoiding suicides from being too close to the explosion, but they come with their own dangers as well. Just a few tips, hope they help.

Also, pro tip for C4 in CQDOM: put it on the ceiling! Almost nobody ever spots it up there, and it will often survive an enemy grenade cleanse.

[TheLegendOf1977]

Originally Posted by gealt

Just a few tips, hope they help...

Thanx for the tips, but i know all this already.. I've put in hundreds of hours on every BF game on console so i know how to play, i think its just my play style...
I never ACTIVELY hunt tanks, just when they are in my way.
Usually me and my squad go from flag to flag capping them (because 90% of the time the rest of my team doesn't seem to bother) So 90% of the time i encounter a tank is during defending/capturing a flag, which is usually pretty hectic....

[guillermo316]

best thing I love about BF3 is C4!

[JORDAN K 95]

i had a few kills with c4 and now i have 98 from playing domination

[CGPsaint]

Originally Posted by TheLegendOf1977

On Domination its cheap, but doesn't bother me that much. What DOES bother me though is using it the way it's supposed! My standard class is Support, and i used to love that class.
But the usefullness of C4 is horrible when trying to use it like u should: blast radius of a mile (resulting in suicide 70% of the time) and i need AT LEAST 3 to even disable a tank!
This, compared with the fact that all Support weapons are shit since the update + the fact that claymores and C4 dissappear after dying (but for some reason the engineer gets to keep his planted mines) makes me furious and hate the class more and more....

I couldn't agree with you more. This is complete and utter bullshit. Not only do my Claymores disappear upon death, they actually disappear immediately when you are downed. So even if you are revived, your Claymores are gone. How in the fuck is that fair in comparison to the Mines, T-UGS, etc. which persist after being downed or killed.

Originally Posted by TheLegendOf1977

But thats the problem: with enemies shooting, the tank shooting/driving over me i either die of blowing the C4 too soon or by enemy fire, either way i cant win...

As long as the tank goes BOOM, then even if you die, you win.

[UndeadGamer]

@ Legend

idk why your complaining about suicides sure its -1 towards your K/D spread but the way i look at it is this. A) sure you died but you also at least got one kill in return 2) the points you get plus the possibility of a multi-kill is a great reward and (most importantly since you talk about capping flags and being a teamplayer) 3) your helping your team by taking out heavy armor that should be a good enough reason right there

[Kebabsaurus Rex]

^ agree, ill die anytime to take out a tank or LAV

gets rid of heavy armour which might be owning your whole team and dominating the game

and multikill to boot

[xDEATHDEALERSxx]

Try putting 3 or 4 pieces on a jeep/HUMVEE, throw an ammo crate on the vehicle as well so your C4 will refill. Just drive until you see an enemy vehicle, or group of people at a flag, jump out and BOOOM!!!! easy points..easy kills. Just keep the C4 trigger in your hand when you get in to drive so you can detonate when needed.(after exiting vehicle)

[H0p3sfalL]

Originally Posted by CGPsaint

I couldn't agree with you more. This is complete and utter bullshit. Not only do my Claymores disappear upon death, they actually disappear immediately when you are downed. So even if you are revived, your Claymores are gone. How in the fuck is that fair in comparison to the Mines, T-UGS, etc. which persist after being downed or killed.

Marsha Marsha Marsha

[pX I Atticus]

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

[UndeadGamer]

Originally Posted by pX I Atticus

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

Can't get kills possible, Cheap maybe. But a tactic none the less. Either a they get you with C4 or they kill you while you wait for the grenade to blow up or you capture the point. It's in the game get used to it.

[WickedD365]

I love C4 and will gladly kill myself to disable/destroy a vehicle and possibly get kills any day. I die alot by C4 suicide, but I take minimal one person with me or take out a vehicle 95% of the time.

I think the C4 in CQ is so cheap and not cool. Yes, it was fun at first, but then when you can't play a match because the enemy team is C4'ing all 3 objectives it ruins the game.
I don't even like to play CQDM anymore because of it.

[Grey Delta]

Originally Posted by WickedD365

I love C4 and will gladly kill myself to disable/destroy a vehicle and possibly get kills any day. I die alot by C4 suicide, but I take minimal one person with me or take out a vehicle 95% of the time.

I think the C4 in CQ is so cheap and not cool. Yes, it was fun at first, but then when you can't play a match because the enemy team is C4'ing all 3 objectives it ruins the game.
I don't even like to play CQDM anymore because of it.

I admit I did this myself a bit and will probably do it some more, at least until I get the medal for it, but the amount of times guys destroyed my carefully laid c4 plan with a grenade is unreal. It's a pain but hit the objective with nades first before you go in and you'll be fine

[Rapturous Rich]

Before the patch came along which now makes it disappear five seconds after death I used to troll the shit out of flag attackers. I'd lay down all 6 blocks sporadically around the flag then go about my way playing Conquest then as soon as I'd see the flag start flashing I'd detonate and get a double or triple every time.

Then came the patch. God fuck it.

AT Mines get to stick around so you can even switch to Recon and get an AT Mine kill but no, not C4!

[Opiate42]

Originally Posted by WickedD365

I love C4 and will gladly kill myself to disable/destroy a vehicle and possibly get kills any day. I die alot by C4 suicide, but I take minimal one person with me or take out a vehicle 95% of the time.

I think the C4 in CQ is so cheap and not cool. Yes, it was fun at first, but then when you can't play a match because the enemy team is C4'ing all 3 objectives it ruins the game.
I don't even like to play CQDM anymore because of it.

Same, I deem it a worthy sacrifice taking out a tank with up to 3 occupants, for the cost of my own ticket.

Can honestly say CQDM is hit and miss for fun, mostly miss. I got my wins for the assignment and moved back to conquest on the bigger maps.

Originally Posted by Rapturous Rich

Then came the patch. God fuck it.

Truly!

[Benny34]

Originally Posted by pX I Atticus

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

Same so annoying. bastards.

[Rapturous Rich]

Originally Posted by pX I Atticus

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

I think if you took one look at my Battlelog you wouldn't call me bad at the game. Sure it's cheap, but also effective and it's PTFOing!
Besides, it's not exploiting a glitch (M26), using a drastically OP weapon (USAS-12 w/frags) or anything like that. Completely legitimate tactic, and if you're silly enough to run onto an empty flag with the dumb idea that no-one's going to defend it then surely you are the one that's bad.

[HighsounD]

Originally Posted by Rapturous Rich

I think if you took one look at my Battlelog you wouldn't call me bad at the game. Sure it's cheap, but also effective and it's PTFOing!
Besides, it's not exploiting a glitch (M26), using a drastically OP weapon (USAS-12 w/frags) or anything like that. Completely legitimate tactic, and if you're silly enough to run onto an empty flag with the dumb idea that no-one's going to defend it then surely you are the one that's bad.

QFT.

I personally don't do it because I'm trying to get my Engineer stars up to the same as the other classes but I won't even try to cap a flag without tossing a nade or RPG on it first in CQD.

Another tactic is to stand on the flag so it starts blinking and then run out of the zone, 9/10 times the guy who has C4 on it will detonate when it starts blinking and by the time they actually explode you will be a couple of feet away in safety.


Off topic: I'm to lazy to quote but I think it was gealt who said something about C4 on tanks with and without reactive and he was wrong. 2 C4 = destroy a tank without reactive, 3 C4 = destroy a tank with reactive. It never takes more than 3.

[gealt]

Originally Posted by pX I Atticus

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

C'mon, avoiding C4 when YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS is simple, if you can't do it then YOU are the one who is bad at the game...

Originally Posted by HighsounD

Off topic: I'm to lazy to quote but I think it was gealt who said something about C4 on tanks with and without reactive and he was wrong. 2 C4 = destroy a tank without reactive, 3 C4 = destroy a tank with reactive. It never takes more than 3.

Yep it was me, I'll try 2 & 3, but I'm pretty sure I'm right ...

[Merch]

I thought I read somewhere that there were plenty of lobbies popping up where planting C4 on CQDM objectives for cheap kills = instant kick.

[I3east Lig3r]

Originally Posted by pX I Atticus

I Fing hate people that C4 flags its so cheap. People that do it are bad at the game and cant get any kills!!

Is getting 2 squad wipe ribbons from putting C4 on the ceiling in rush bad?

[Opiate42]

Originally Posted by I3east Lig3r

Is getting 2 squad wipe ribbons from putting C4 on the ceiling in rush bad?

Only for those squads.

[HighsounD]

Originally Posted by gealt

Yep it was me, I'll try 2 & 3, but I'm pretty sure I'm right ...

I pretty much play Grand Bazaar only and Rush so I encounter quite a few tanks every day and there's always a prestige running Reactive sitting in it. Never takes more than 3 C4 to take him out.

Only thing I need to put 5-6 C4 on is the Dinosaur aka the Amtrac.

[gabwe]

I confirm, 2 blocks is enough to destroy a tank without reactive armor, 3 otherwise.

I did use C4 in CQDM a bit, but since almost everyone tosses a 'nade before capturing the flag, I stopped using it.

[gealt]

Originally Posted by HighsounD

I pretty much play Grand Bazaar only and Rush so I encounter quite a few tanks every day and there's always a prestige running Reactive sitting in it. Never takes more than 3 C4 to take him out.

Originally Posted by gabwe

I confirm, 2 blocks is enough to destroy a tank without reactive armor, 3 otherwise.

Can't believe I've been throwing way too much on all this time, oh well, I will put this info to good use .