Black Monolith Possible Solution - Need Input

[Fenrakk101]

My logic is as follows.

The burnt treasure map is half of a whole, which means the other information used to be there, but is now missing. Theoretically, that information should lie elsewhere in the game.
All I want to know is, can anyone find another instance of the pattern that remains on the map? Is it written anywhere else, in any room or wall?
I'm probably just grasping at straws but this just struck me now as an epiphany.

[A BENGAL HOBO]

i havnt seen the second half

[Speedbeatz]

Well, let's start in the room where we found the map in the first place. Scour the floors. It definitely looks burned but who knows.


...What room did we find the map in?

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by A BENGAL HOBO

i havnt seen the second half

That's the point. I'm talking about the half we already see.
If we can find the same thing that's on the treasure map written somewhere in the game, that could lead us to the missing data from the map.

Originally Posted by Speedbeatz

Well, let's start in the room where we found the map in the first place. Scour the floors. It definitely looks burned but who knows.


...What room did we find the map in?

Not a clue anymore.

[LimboBimbo]

I'm almost certain that the monolith is a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Haven't figured out the solution yet though.

[Phonomezer]

Anyone considered what the skull artifact is for? Black...death...skull...etc

There are some grooves in it which may or may not be of any importance, but I might give it a shot in any case.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by Phonomezer

Anyone considered what the skull artifact is for? Black...death...skull...etc

There are some grooves in it which may or may not be of any importance, but I might give it a shot in any case.

I was actually looking at the skull too...
There's a picture of it in the boiler room in Gomez's World. A poster tacked on the wall next to it says "XYZ" if I translated it correctly. Make of it what you will.

[deaddeaddead]

With the parallel to the monolith in 2001, you'd almost expect to be able to use a bone, but doesn't seem like it.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by deaddeaddead

With the parallel to the monolith in 2001, you'd almost expect to be able to use a bone, but doesn't seem like it.

Hints maybe?

Also, this might be irrelevant, but...
In the four-cube door, there's the one room at the top that's just a big black hole. But in the minimap, you can see the actual walls, and if you zoom in enough and have a big enough tv you can make out what's written on the walls. Might be a clue?

[Speedbeatz]

Originally Posted by Fenrakk101

Hints maybe?

Also, this might be irrelevant, but...
In the four-cube door, there's the one room at the top that's just a big black hole. But in the minimap, you can see the actual walls, and if you zoom in enough and have a big enough tv you can make out what's written on the walls. Might be a clue?

It's the exact same as the room to it's right on the map with the "cave paintings". Interestingly the black holes make up about the same shape as what we have of the burnt map. Probably just a coincidence but.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by Speedbeatz

It's the exact same as the room to it's right on the map with the "cave paintings". Interestingly the black holes make up about the same shape as what we have of the burnt map. Probably just a coincidence but.

Mind, blown.

[Phonomezer]

Which room is this?

[Speedbeatz]

http://i.imgur.com/dNFFH.jpg

Like I said, probably meaningless, but still interesting. It's behind the 4-cube door, the uppermost room.

edit: Hmm, incidentally, the map thumbnail for a room in this area is wrong. The bottom-right one, with the four people bowing to the owl - the map shows a depiction of an evolution line instead. Maybe just a changed idea/error?

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by Phonomezer

Which room is this?

Open the four-cube door, go to the top, there's a room that's basically entirely a black hole. Doesn't seem too interesting anymore.

[mas4mune]

the skull is very curious. if you look underneath, there are three holes that are arranged in the shape of the visitor's eyes. if this is a visitor skull (tentacle holes? who knows), why is the regular face shaped with a jaw and the eyes in a straight line? if this is a skull of one of the other peoples in the world, why are there three holes at the bottom? i've tried hitting X all over that damn thing and nothing happens. perhaps a button combo could make something work, but, again, all theory and no leads. if you have stereoscopy on, there is a red rectangle under the skull, but i think that's more of a coding issue than anything else.

i think the 2001 thing may just be a homage. the black monoliths were machines, so i don't see how it relates.

EDIT: just had a look at that map/black hole image. it even seems to have the wear on the edges in the same spots. i must investigate.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by mas4mune

the skull is very curious. if you look underneath, there are three holes that are arranged in the shape of the visitor's eyes. if this is a visitor skull (tentacle holes? who knows), why is the regular face shaped with a jaw and the eyes in a straight line? if this is a skull of one of the other peoples in the world, why are there three holes at the bottom? i've tried hitting X all over that damn thing and nothing happens. perhaps a button combo could make something work, but, again, all theory and no leads. if you have stereoscopy on, there is a red rectangle under the skull, but i think that's more of a coding issue than anything else.

i think the 2001 thing may just be a homage. the black monoliths were machines, so i don't see how it relates.

Like I said, there's a poster that depicts this exact face in the boiler room of Gomez's World.

[mas4mune]

Originally Posted by Fenrakk101

Like I said, there's a poster that depicts this exact face in the boiler room of Gomez's World.

there are also letters and numbers from the other worlds in there. eyepatch's secret research stash? who knows.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by mas4mune

there are also letters and numbers from the other worlds in there. eyepatch's secret research stash? who knows.

The answer must be here then, right? Or somewhere else in the world?

[mas4mune]

Originally Posted by Fenrakk101

The answer must be here then, right? Or somewhere else in the world?

i have no doubt in my mind the answer is in the game somewhere, but i'm fairly sure i've read everything by now. soon i'll be able to write fez better than english.
on closer inspection of the black hole room, i find nothing of value here except the extreme coincidence between the shapes. i tried the monolith code but nothing happened. if you fly fast enough you don't die in the black hole, so i inspected every seam of that room. nothing to report, sadly. i'm dabbling with the fact that you can't rotate these rooms. trying to figure something out.

[AlfSimen]

The image shown as a preview before you go into the room with the black hole depicts the wall of another room: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2131950/Pics...413_191837.jpg

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by mas4mune

i have no doubt in my mind the answer is in the game somewhere, but i'm fairly sure i've read everything by now. soon i'll be able to write fez better than english.
on closer inspection of the black hole room, i find nothing of value here except the extreme coincidence between the shapes. i tried the monolith code but nothing happened. if you fly fast enough you don't die in the black hole, so i inspected every seam of that room. nothing to report, sadly. i'm dabbling with the fact that you can't rotate these rooms. trying to figure something out.

I think not rotating the rooms is part of the story... that world used to exist only in 2D, so its creators we can assume existed in 2D.
The next world is in 3D though, and so is Gomez's World and the past door.... so I really don't know.

Originally Posted by AlfSimen

The image shown as a preview before you go into the room with the black hole depicts the wall of another room: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2131950/Pics...413_191837.jpg

We already figured that out. Sorry for not being perceptive enough to figure it out before I posted that.

[Phonomezer]

This is driving me crazy.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by Phonomezer

This is driving me crazy.

All of us, man.

[AlfSimen]

Originally Posted by Fenrakk101

We already figured that out. Sorry for not being perceptive enough to figure it out before I posted that.

I saw that you had figured out that there were something depicted, someone mentioned that it looked like an evolution-line. What it actually depicts are some creatures hunting, killing and roasting something. That's why I wanted to post the photo. So chill down a bit will ya?

[grimrock]

i am giving tweeting at them a shot XD iv been all over the map and couldn't sleep because I MUST KNOW.

[Fenrakk101]

Originally Posted by AlfSimen

I saw that you had figured out that there were something depicted, someone mentioned that it looked like an evolution-line. What it actually depicts are some creatures hunting, killing and roasting something. That's why I wanted to post the photo. So chill down a bit will ya?

Originally Posted by Speedbeatz

It's the exact same as the room to it's right on the map with the "cave paintings". Interestingly the black holes make up about the same shape as what we have of the burnt map. Probably just a coincidence but.

This is what I'm referring to.

[Speedbeatz]

Originally Posted by AlfSimen

I saw that you had figured out that there were something depicted, someone mentioned that it looked like an evolution-line. What it actually depicts are some creatures hunting, killing and roasting something. That's why I wanted to post the photo. So chill down a bit will ya?

This was me, and I was talking about a different room in the same area.

http://i.imgur.com/Py0Ij.jpg
The actual room in question has that layout, but the plaque instead depicts (for me at least) four figures bowing to an owl.

[got99probl3ms]

i tweeted many of them and no response..

[ll X ll]

Originally Posted by grimrock

i am giving tweeting at them a shot XD iv been all over the map and couldn't sleep because I MUST KNOW.

I haven't finished the game yet. But i think they will not give out their secret this quick. It needs time for the other people playing the game. I'm giving them a month or two before starting to help. By then maybe we all would already figure it out :P

[AlfSimen]

Originally Posted by Speedbeatz

This was me, and I was talking about a different room in the same area.

Ok, sorry, so many rooms >_<

Originally Posted by Fenrakk101

This is what I'm referring to.

My bad.