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How hard is ultra violence?
Compared to modern games Hard mode for instance?
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it's not bad but thats because ive play doom ii so many times on nightmare i might change my mind once ive played no rest for the living lol
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Ultra-Violence is the hardest normal gameplay mode. You get many more monsters, and sometimes less items. Thats pretty much all it is. Most Doomers play on nothing but UV, unless they have something to prove by tackling Nightmare
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So if I complete it on ultra-violence am I a double-hard bastard with beach-ball size bollocks and will I earn the respect of my peers???
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Ultra-Violence is where there are the greatest number of demons possible and ammo. The enemies don't respawn or run around on speed like Nightmare! does. You have to take special note of your ammo and such because UV on DOOM II will take you for a longer ride than DOOM does, but after a while it shouldn't mean much.
I've played DOOM II on ZDoom countless times so I know about 90% of this game tricks and traps, and I can always call up my DOOM level editors to find all of the items I can. As far as notoriety goes... not really, no. |
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It's not that hard. Nightmare, on the other hand, can be a real pain in the arse.
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It's not too bad. If you know how to get access to the good stuff early (Rockets in level 1 and Super Shotty in level 2, even BFG in level 8) you will have an easier time.
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Playing on UV is pretty intense, though it involves a fair amount of save scumming for me. The number of times I've had to complete battles with incredibly low health are countless. So saving a lot, using cover, and the super shotty are your friends
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Basically, whenever you think are done with the level, just go scavenging for any spare medkits and stimpacks that may be on the ground. You will most likely skip over a few whenever you have more than 100% health. |
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Doom II throws new enemies at you like Revenants, Mancubus and Arch Vile...all of whom are very nasty on UV mode, especially when they're grouped.
Still, as long as you take each horde carefully, make use of cover, dodge when necessary then it shouldn't be a problem. Save regularly, and exploit the fact that the AI monsters in Doom are retarded
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It's not bad but it requires a lot of patience and saving..
I remember when I used to play through Doom Connector, UV would be a breeze. Now i'm finding it really tricky. Talk about out of practice. |
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I am finding UV way too easy.. i am actually starting to think that maybe I accidentally set it to something easier... is there any way to tell or verify the difficulty?
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You can have many monsters in ultra violence.
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Guess I spoke too soon...
I was totally kicking ass on this game, but now I'm on level 10 and I'm so depleted of ammo. I have been killing everything I can with the chainsaw. I'm on UV difficulty... Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of the game? barely having enough ammo?
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Conserving ammo is certainly key. For example, if your bullets are maxed and you find a few boxes laying around, put away the shotgun and use the chaingun. Then, you can come back and pick up the boxes. Same for shells.
Also, never pick up a full box of something if it will max you out. For example, a box of shells gives you 20 in UV. If you already have 90 shells, don't bother grabbing it. Wait until later. Good luck!
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It's tough in some spots, but it's not impossible. Level 16: Suburbs is particularly evil on UV.
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There is a trick to suburbs, you can glitch through the red key exit if you run at the right angle.
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Depending on which doom game. no rest for the living is hard and final doom is Hard as hell. well plutonia experiment is TNT is manageable.
but yeah conserving ammo is the key. too many times you may think you have shit loads of ammo, waste it on a level and it will have consequences for a few levels too come. especially on ultra violent and you have a map like the pit or tricks and traps coming up. The only map i really had difficulty on uv in Doom 2 was in no rest for the living map 5. That map is down right brutal on uv. I am currently going through the game again and see how high i can get my ranking/score. So far i have got it in the top 2000. with several map in the top 500. Last edited by yngwieclone; 01-19-2011 at 01:31 AM. |
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No rest for the Living was a challenge on Hardcore mode, but I loved every second of it.
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The Doom series as a whole is one of those "hard easy" games. Hard due to cheap deaths and overpowered enemies on Ultra Violence. Easy due to the save anywhere system as opposed to a checkpoint based system. Patience will be your biggest adversary, but in the end, this is one of those classics that must be beaten on UV to call yourself an old school gamer.
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It's a decent challenge.
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#23 |
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I have to say I loved every damn frustrating second of both games...and ya gotta love having 200/200 on both games. Whenever I got really stuck I would simply turn it off and come back to it later. The new campaign was crazy cool and fun....And no cut scenes
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#24 |
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I find this game to be easy. It was like muscle memory to me when I downloaded this after not playing Doom II for over a decade when it was released. As soon I started paying I knew what to do. This game can be difficult to new comers of the series, espicialy the scarce amount of ammo/weapons on each map factored with increased enemy presence on ultra-violence.
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#25 |
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I'm quite enjoying playing on ultra-violence, the later levels are as tough as they were when I first played it lol
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I always found Doom II to be a little bit harder then the original Doom. Of course, I'm mainly referring to the level designs. Once you learn a level well enough it's quite simple actually to play on U.V. and Nightmare. That's how a lot of these Doom 'Pros' do speedruns on Nightmare. With that said if you don't know the level designs that well. It might be better off if you take it slow and use save states.
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This is one of those games where you have to be smart about what you do. It's not like CoD Veteran where you can run out there and regenerate health like a terminator and keep going. Conserve everything, save an inordinate amount of times, and you'll make it.
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#28 |
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i think its pretty tough, maybe call of duty ii tough. BUT, the infinite amount of saves and the ability to do it anywhere makes it relatively easy. thank goodness otherwise id be driving myself crazy. on level 9 right now btw lol
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Uh... can you help a noob out please and tell me how to get "Rockets in level 1 and Super Shotty in level 2, even BFG in level 8"?
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