Lebowski Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) BEFORE YOU READ ON: THIS THREAD HAS STRONG GTA IV & LOST AND DAMNED SPOILERS. I pledge to you: Luis Fernando Lopez http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/thumb/9/9c/Luis_Lopez.png/180px-Luis_Lopez.png As the new DLC Character. Luis Fernando Lopez is a Dominican-American street gangster associated with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers and also works as a bodyguard for club owner and Ancelotti associate Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince. He is also be rumored to be involved in underground fight clubs. He is seen in the missions: Three Leaf Clover [iV] Museum Piece [iV & LATD] Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend [iV] Take into account this information bringing the three characters together: [Niko, Johnny & Luis] His criminal background is typical of GTA protagonists, and his unusual prominence in GTA IV, making several apparently-incidental appearances. For example, in the mission Museum Piece, it is Luis who ambushes Niko and Johnny during the diamond exchange, and the achievement you get after completing the mission is called "Impossible Trinity"; a cryptic title, but one which may be interpreted as a reference to three GTA IV protagonists being brought together by unlikely coincidence. It should also be noted that in the credits of The Lost and Damned, the mission Museum Piece is shown -- Niko is shown fighting at the front entrance, Johnny at the back entrance fighting and Luis is also shown, firing through the skylight on the roof. There is also a parallel in the grudges Niko Bellic, Johnny Klebitz, and Luis hold towards Ray Boccino -- Niko had always had problems with Ray and even killed him on Pegorino's orders; Johnny Klebitz's friend Jim Fitzgerald was killed on Ray's orders; and Luis's friend Teddy Benavidez was also killed on Ray's orders. All 3 are listed as being charged with GRAND THEFT AUTO on the police database. New features for the next DLC which could include Luis: (In my opinion) - Fight Club Activity We know Luis is possibly involved in Fight Clubs and we've seen it done in Saints Row 2. The LCPD database says Luis is involved in a fight club. - Drug Dealing It has been done in GTA: Chinatown Wars, why not include it here. - Skating or Free Running It has been mentioned Luis could possibly be a free runner. See skate evidence below: --------------------------------------------- The following information was found from GTA:IV LATD in a file called: 'american.gxt' Which is basically Subtitles for mission scripts. Proof of Fight Club Ranking System? http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3531/fightclub.png New Mutiplayer Game Modes?: E2 = Episode 2 http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9905/prototypeb.png Skate evidence: http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9564/skate.png --------------------------------------------- That is my two cents. Ive been helping with the investigation over at GTA Wiki & GTAForums.com So Id like to thank them too If I may. What are your opinions? Edited April 6, 2009 by Lebowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATR NAD Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) That is impressive, it sounds more likely to be him considering the facts you mentionned above and the fact that I believe that DLC were written with the original plot. I'm really amazed about this investigation. Edited April 6, 2009 by ATR NAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrah Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 check out gtagaming.com/forums too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 That is imressive, it sounds more likely to be him considering the facts you mentionned above and the fact that I believe that DLC were written with the original plot. I'm really amazed about this investigation. I too believe both DLC were planned from the start. Although Johnny's look in the original GTA IV was slightly different from how he looked in The Lost & Damned, I believe it was already all tied together. http://i40.tinypic.com/25hlic1.jpg Hence the 'Impossible Trinity'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremestMAPPIE Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Isn't there a "free running" bit across rooftops in the credits of TLAD??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommat12 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 That's some damning evidence, makes a lot of sense when you piece it together. Free-running would be cool, that's one of the things I felt missing from the original game. If this turns out true, you heard it here first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodelf007 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I can't imagine skating in GTA, I'm sure the controls would be so sluggish, like in MGS 2: Substance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorGe62990 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Your evidence is great and it all makes sense. I think it's a no-brainer that Luis will be the next character, I just want to know what new activities will be included. Fight Club seems very logical considering his police record. I just worry about how that will work out gameplay-wise. While fighting is fun, there are plenty of flaws that need to be tweaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkedUp Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Damn that is some good strong evidence toward the next installment of GTA dlc. Can't wait to see if your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Damn that is some good strong evidence toward the next installment of GTA dlc. Can't wait to see if your right Me too. From all the points I have drawn from the information given to me by GTA, I think Luis is the only clear cut choice. I'd love to play 'Museum Piece' where he guns down the diamond buying jews in front of Niko & Johnny, then escapes across the rooftops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMcFly Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Wow, you really did a lot of investigating. Nicely done. That evidence is very strong. When they announced Johnny Klebitz, I was surprised because he existed in the regular Niko missions. I barely thought twice about the guy! I wondered what the deal was with Luis in the Museum mission. I'll be very surprised if your theory is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjaw x Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Wow, you've convinced me 100%. This is a very rare occurrence. I need to sit down. Oh wait, I am sitting down. Cooooool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masta Mylez Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Totally agree with you dude. I also payed close attention to the TLAD credits and seen Luis escaping off the museums roof top as well. Still hoping they can bring back Niko for the 2nd dlc but I know that will not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) I captured the moment from the credits of TLAD where Luis is on the roof of the museum, shooting in. (For those who wanted to see it) I've highlighted him with a star. http://i44.tinypic.com/34epxfp.png Thanks to GTA-Series.com for uploading this to YouTube. The full 10:48 video can be seen here: He appears around 7:34. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1slsz_01IQ]YouTube - GTA IV: The Lost and Damned Closing Credits[/ame] [Luis only appears for, literally seconds, on the roof running along it then shooting in the skylight.] Edited April 8, 2009 by Lebowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masta Mylez Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Thanks 4 uploading the TLAD credits. Also looks like Luis starts shooting through the rooftop glass and there is a way to get to the roof via ladders and catwalks on the back of the museum. I'm 100% convinced that Luis will be the protagonist in the next DLC. Now the release date ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 That's all we need now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandChamp129 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Thanks 4 uploading the TLAD credits. Also looks like Luis starts shooting through the rooftop glass and there is a way to get to the roof via ladders and catwalks on the back of the museum. I'm 100% convinced that Luis will be the protagonist in the next DLC. Now the release date ......... I agree and am very excited they are making another DLC for GTA IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ii iLLMaTiC Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 wow.. that is amazing good job with this.. i havent purchased TLAD yet because i want to get more of the org. achievements. and im on my way. but this looks like another game to go over the 1250 cap..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy343 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I completely agree with you that this is true. But if you don't play as Luis, I wonder if you'll play as one of the Jewish guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_box_72 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Very impressive Theory mate ....looks 100% accurate to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Very impressive Theory mate ....looks 100% accurate to me Thank-you. All we can do is wait and see. I hope for sure it is Louis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBlade1488 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Very impressive. I may be mistaken, but doesn't Luis also appear in the Diamonds in the Rough mission in LATD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStyles Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 The new multiplayer games they added in the new DLC sucked. They also messed up the settings. FF can't be turned off now from the lobby. It must be done on your phone. Anyways hopefully this DLC doesn't let me down. TLAD wasn't that bad but wasn't that good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dz06lt Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 id like to know when we will see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tufty Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Cant wait. I hope we get to play Museum Piece again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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