Tough/Long 1000's (or close to)

LilMissRoxy · 02-10-2009, 02:53 AM

This is the Tough 1000 (or close to) section. This specific section will tell you which games take you 40+ hours to get 900 or more points. There are no specific categories here. Some games may be done under 40 hours and others may be well over. It all really depends on skill level and research done.

Thanks to PerpetualHeaven for creating this list.

Please do:-
• Shout if you think these guidelines aren't fair.
• Post how long it took you to attain the amount listed under (2) for any games shown above.

Please do not:-
• Post anything along the lines of "I agree with <something already on the main list>".
• Don't get into an argument over how easy you think the game is. The games on here take over 40+ hours and that means they are a tough 1000.

Criteria:-
To clarify exactly what qualifies for a "Tough 1000 (or close to)":-
(1) It is nearly impossible to obtain 900 or more points.
(2) Obtaining the full amount available takes at least 40 hours.
(3) Obtaining the full amount available requires an intermediate to advanced level of skill.

Any of the criteria can be met. It does not have to meet all 3 points.

Games are not listed in order of difficulty.

The Tough 1000 (or close to) list:-

LilMissRoxy · 02-10-2009, 02:53 AM

The Tough 1000 CONTINUED:-

Gears of War
Gears of War 2
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
Grand Theft Auto 4
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Guitar Hero 2
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits
Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Guitar Hero World Tour
Green Day: Rock Band
Half Life 2: The Orange Box
Halo Wars
James Bond 007 : Blood Stone
Infinite Undiscovery
Kameo: Elements of Power
Kane and Lynch
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Last Remnant
Left 4 Dead
Lost Odyssey
Lost Planet
Lost Planet 2
Lost Planet: Colonies
Mass Effect
Medal Of Honor: Airborne
Midnight Club LA
MLB 2K8
MLB 2K9
Monster Madness: Battle For Suburbia
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe
MotoGP 06
MotoGP 07
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
Nascar 08
Nascar 2009
Need for Speed: Carbon
NHL 09
Ninja Blade
Ninja Gaiden 2
Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad
Operation Darkness
Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
Over G Fighters
Overlord
Perfect Dark: Zero
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
Pro Evolution Soccer 2009
Project Gotham Racing 3
Prototype
Quake 4 (you literally have to be the best in the world for this one)
Raiden Fighter Aces
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Rapala Tournament Fishing
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Record of Agarest War
Resonance of Fate
Ridge Racer 6
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Rock Revolution
Rockstar Table Tennis
Rumble Roses Double X

LilMissRoxy · 02-10-2009, 02:53 AM

The Tough 1000 CONTINUED:-

LilMissRoxy · 02-10-2009, 02:55 AM

The Tough/Long 1000 Change Log

June 20, 2011

Added Mortal Kombat
Added Bass Pro Shops : The Hunt
Added Fifa 2011
Added James Bond 007 : Blood Stone
Added Armored Core for Answer

August 29, 2010:

Added: Nascar 2009
Added: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
Added: Resonance of Fate
Added: Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce
Added: Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Added: Lost Planet 2
Added: Record of Agarest War
Added: Blur
Added: Beautiful Katamari
Added: Green Day: Rock Band

April 4, 2010:

Added: Way of the Samurai 3
Added: Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad

March 24, 2010:

Added: Wolfenstein
Added: Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Added: Aliens vs. Predator
Added: Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe
Added: Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Added: The Saboteur
Added: Final Fantasy XIII
Added: DJ Hero
Removed: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06

February 7, 2010:

Added: Conflict: Denied Ops
Removed: Chromehounds

January 24, 2010:

Added: FIFA 10, UFC 2009 Undisputed, Dragon Age, Forza 3, Sacred 2, Fight Night Round 4.

August 10, 2009:

Added: Prototype, Stormrise, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2, Wartech Senko No Ronde, Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009, Sonic Unleashed and Fuel.

July 10, 2009:

Added: Supreme Commander

June 26, 2009:

Added: Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, Guitar Hero Metallica, Guitar Hero Smash Hits, MLB 2K9, NHL 09, Ninja Blade, and Raiden Fighter Aces.
Removed: Call of Duty 2 and 4.

Feedback is welcome. Within the new few days I will have updated the list to include links to their respective achievement guide.

Itsbrown4606 · 02-10-2009, 02:59 AM

So, from what I gather from Method in the Quick 1000s, the original keeper of the thread is unavailable to keep up with it or something?

EDIT: You know, I just thought of something. Could you list the main reason why the game is tough? Like for CoD4 it could be for "skill," and for one of those +100 hour or +1 playthrough games you could say "requires lengthy play time.*

KingBroly · 02-10-2009, 03:07 AM

Tales of Vesperia requires A LOT of time, 3 playthroughs minimum, at least 150 hours of commitment.

Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts takes around 30 hours for single player if you constantly use the Leaderboards, without you're looking at 40-50, and around 15-20 hours of multiplayer due to the MP parties as well as overall lack of players.

Speaking of that, I'd say that games with multiplayer that have a "Lack of Online Community" qualifies as it being tough to get to 1000g. If you can't find X amount of people to play it, you're out of luck.

Itsbrown4606 · 02-10-2009, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingBroly

Speaking of that, I'd say that games with multiplayer that have a "Lack of Online Community" qualifies as it being tough to get to 1000g. If you can't find X amount of people to play it, you're out of luck.

That's pretty much every game released before 2008, but I get what you are saying and it's true.

KingBroly · 02-10-2009, 03:13 AM

I'm just bringing up the point for contention. Whether it is deemed valid or not is not a concern of mine. I could also say all games with extreme button mashing mini-games deserve to be on this list considering button mashing events suck.

Turbulence 0 · 02-10-2009, 04:04 AM

edit:thats two games i suggested that are listed i gotta read more carefully)

EOU Findub · 02-10-2009, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingBroly

I'm just bringing up the point for contention. Whether it is deemed valid or not is not a concern of mine. I could also say all games with extreme button mashing mini-games deserve to be on this list considering button mashing events suck.

While that is a good point, I don't think it really qualifies as being part of the criteria for being a tough 1000. There are still plenty of people who need online achievements for old games. There always will be. Just have to bring commitment and a lot of patience.

Eternal · 02-10-2009, 08:54 AM

I think EndWar should be on that list... It takes a massive amount of skill to get the single player achievements, and even with a boosting partner it will take hundreds of hours to get every multiplayer achievement. Not to mention that some of them require the Theater of War to be in a specific phase.

B A R 4 D · 02-10-2009, 09:13 AM

good list..i dont really notice anything getting added in lol..

frank9080 · 02-10-2009, 10:04 AM

Beijing 08 needs to be added

Hitchman · 02-10-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itsbrown4606

EDIT: You know, I just thought of something. Could you list the main reason why the game is tough? Like for CoD4 it could be for "skill," and for one of those +100 hour or +1 playthrough games you could say "requires lengthy play time.*

I agree that a reason as to why each game is hard and/or lengthy would add a nice touch to the list. Nice job though.

The Globalizer · 02-12-2009, 04:23 PM

I'd say Tiger Woods 09 probably belongs on this list. I've been playing it a nightmarish amount of time over the last month, and I'm only up to 725. These achievements are fairly tough and/or time-consuming:

* Scratch (50k GamerNet points)
* Club Champ (I'm stuck around 10.5 / 11.5 / 9.5 / 11.5 at my best)
* All your Balls are Belong to Us (win almost all trophy balls, including a number of full-season trophies and eagling every par 5 in the game)
* Furry Fairways (have to get the $5mil bunny suit first)
* Ace in the Hole
* An Albatross Nickel (not a ton of reachable par 5s in the game)
* Medalist
* Course Management

Granted, if you play the entire game from an achievement guide perspective, you could probably get through these in reasonable time, but if you're playing the game as designed, forget it.

Lemon Of Life · 02-12-2009, 04:42 PM

seems like a good list.

Z3R0 S1X · 02-12-2009, 05:11 PM

Rock Band 2 needs to be added. A place can be reserved for Guitar Hero: Metallica since it will probably have some incredibly hard achievements.

Nosomee · 02-19-2009, 05:07 PM

I don't see Operation Darkness on here, and it definately takes some time. 35 hours for 550/1000 (27 missions), then god knows how long for the 40+ missions needed for the other 450, and thats if you back up your saves, otherwise its another 35 hours.

Chris Hoke · 02-20-2009, 12:09 AM

Why does it say it is impossible to get 900 points or above in one of the criteria? Nvm it only has to meet one I got you now you mean glitched achievements, I thought you were saying GOW and Gow 2 were impossible.

Bass Slapper94 · 02-20-2009, 01:13 AM

- Rock Band 2 since you need to play online and cooperate with others to get the achievements like the one where you have to stay in overdrive for 90 seconds. And also for the Vinyl, Gold, and Platinum award achievements. It approximately takes about 6 hours and 30 minutes to finish the "Endless Setlist"(without pausing).More if you take breaks(obviously).You also need to beat all the venues and need to play 25 challenges on expert for the Challenge Savant achievement. If you are not so good on games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero, this will take lots of time. If you are, then it will be easier, but will also need to dedicate time to the game.

- I don't know about you guys, but Assasain's Creed took a very long time for me! Especially finding the flags and those 40 special guards(forgot the name).But luckily, that's where the achievement guide comes in perfect use! The actual storyline isn't really that hard, but will take maybe 2 playthroughs? Correct me if I am wrong.

- Bioshock should also be in there because it's challenging in some ways, like beating the game on hard or finding all the audioa diarys. It will take 2 possibly 3 playthroughs, mainly for the time consuming ones like Seriously Good At This, Brass Balls, Historian(If you can do in 1 game), Tonic Collector, Little Sister Savior and Dealt with every Little Sister.Maybe even maxing out all your weapons will be tough for some because you have to find all the weapon upgraders. Most will come naturally if you are following an achievement guide.

- And last one from me(maybe) is Civilization Revolution because of the strategy you will have to use. Not only you will have to obtain a victory with every civilization, but you need to also beat the hard difficultys like deity. It's very time consuming and is pretty hard.

Z3R0 S1X · 02-20-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bass Slapper94

- I don't know about you guys, but Assasain's Creed took a very long time for me! Especially finding the flags and those 40 special guards(forgot the name).But luckily, that's where the achievement guide comes in perfect use! The actual storyline isn't really that hard, but will take maybe 2 playthroughs? Correct me if I am wrong.
- Bioshock should also be in there because it's challenging in some ways, like beating the game on hard or finding all the audioa diarys. It will take 2 possibly 3 playthroughs, mainly for the time consuming ones like Seriously Good At This, Brass Balls, Historian(If you can do in 1 game), Tonic Collector, Little Sister Savior and Dealt with every Little Sister.Maybe even maxing out all your weapons will be tough for some because you have to find all the weapon upgraders. Most will come naturally if you are following an achievement guide.
- And last one from me(maybe) is Civilization Revolution because of the strategy you will have to use. Not only you will have to obtain a victory with every civilization, but you need to also beat the hard difficultys like deity. It's very time consuming and is pretty hard.

All three of these are already on the 'Quick 1000' list and I would agree with two of those. AC is doable in under twenty-five hours if you plan ahead for collecting the flags/templers. I argued for the game's inclusion on this list after it came out and won the arguement, so trust me on this one.
Bioshock is actually quiet easy since you can't die and if you use a guide to find the collectables. Just leave out the 'Brass Balls' achievement as you should do that on a seperate playthrough. You can get the original 1000 in under twenty-five hours without any trouble but use a guide.
I haven't done Civ:Revolution but its also on the quick list so just use the guide since someone else has done the hard work of making it. I do agree with Rock Band 2 as it would take a high level of skill and lots of time to achieve the full 1000; most people will have to settle for less though.

The Globalizer · 02-20-2009, 02:34 PM

I want to agree with Bass Slapper94 in principle, but I think the issue here is the achievement guide vs. organic approach.

Personally, I like to get achievements without someone telling me exactly how to do it. That takes a lot of time. (But for me, it's a lot more fun; I only use achievement guides to discover secret achievements and untangle something glitchy.) I'm happy with my 500 points/week since I got my 360 in early January, as I've learned and earned the hell of those points.

That said, if your only concern is racking up GS, then strategy/difficulty considerations mostly go out the window.

MikeydCT · 02-20-2009, 02:55 PM

Lost Planet: Colonies should be added

Kamakazi Pear · 02-20-2009, 10:37 PM

Viva Pinata should be added. Master Longetivity (20G) - Play for 50 Hours.
And Tom Clancy's Endwar. The online achievements are so difficult, they take forever, even with boosting partners. And you have to be brilliant at the game for any chance of 100% completion.

And Call of Duty 4 shouldn't be up there. If you are pretty good at the game it doesn't take more than 10 hours. 20 tops.

Pashos · 02-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamakazi Pear

And Call of Duty 4 shouldn't be up there. If you are pretty good at the game it doesn't take more than 10 hours. 20 tops.

Veteran difficulty is extremely tough. That is why it is up there, not because it takes over 40 hours.

Pashos · 02-21-2009, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angryassasin857

i am sorry to say this little miss roxy but you need to do some more research before posting ALOT of these games....i think your easy 1000 thread was brilliant but this one is not....battlefield bad company i got all but 2 cheeves in like 25-30 hours of gameplay.....gears of war besides the seriously cheeve can be done in 20-25 hours and many other games on this list dont fall into the tough category....and i am not a super skilled gamer btw so dont go saying that it depends on skill.....i am not trying to be harsh but this thread is very misleading

For both of the games you mentioned, it takes well over 40 hours to get the full 1000. In Bad Company, most of the achievements are really easy but it takes forever to get 10,002 kills. For Gears of War it takes forever to get 10,000 kills.

Vivi · 02-21-2009, 08:55 AM

Oblivion, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Last Remnant, Tales of Vesperia and Fallout 3 take quite a long time to 100% but they can be done.

Damn near impossible would go to:

Rumble Roses XX
Final Fantasy XI
DOA Xtreme 2

Lufc Dan · 02-22-2009, 06:41 PM

Tony Hawks project 8 is so fricking annoying :P

SpideR NY · 02-23-2009, 02:56 PM

Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 should be on this list. To get Elite probally takes like 50+ hours. You have to beat every level on Realistic (hardest), also every terrorist hunt on realistic, get 100 kills in multiplayer w/ at least 6 players with all weapon types, etc. Even if you boosted this game is a HARD 1000.

nubdge · 02-23-2009, 03:57 PM

let me say where the heck is the club???now that game took ages to get the "no seriously" acheev,as do the skullshots and secret skullshots,nevermind the other little easy but annoying awrd acheevs!

02-10-2009, 02:53 AM	#1
LilMissRoxy Tom's PIC Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,301 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 11 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Tough/Long 1000's (or close to) This is the Tough 1000 (or close to) section. This specific section will tell you which games take you 40+ hours to get 900 or more points. There are no specific categories here. Some games may be done under 40 hours and others may be well over. It all really depends on skill level and research done. Thanks to PerpetualHeaven for creating this list. Please do:- • Shout if you think these guidelines aren't fair. • Post how long it took you to attain the amount listed under (2) for any games shown above. Please do not:- • Post anything along the lines of "I agree with <something already on the main list>". • Don't get into an argument over how easy you think the game is. The games on here take over 40+ hours and that means they are a tough 1000. Criteria:- To clarify exactly what qualifies for a "Tough 1000 (or close to)":- (1) It is nearly impossible to obtain 900 or more points. (2) Obtaining the full amount available takes at least 40 hours. (3) Obtaining the full amount available requires an intermediate to advanced level of skill. Any of the criteria can be met. It does not have to meet all 3 points. Games are not listed in order of difficulty. The Tough 1000 (or close to) list:- 2006 FIFA World Cup Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation Aliens vs. Predator Armored Core for Answer Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts Bass Pro Shops : The Hunted Battlefield 2: Modern Combat Battlefield: Bad Company Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Beautiful Katamari Beijing Olympics 2008 BioShock 2 Bladestorm: The Hundred Year War Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII Blitz: The League Blue Dragon Blur Bomberman: Act Zero Burnout Paradise Burnout Revenge Call of Duty 3 Call of Duty: World At War Championship Manager 2007 (PAL) Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena College Hoops 2K7 Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars Conflict: Denied Ops Culdcept Saga DDR Universe DDR Universe 2 Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3 Dead or Alive 4 Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 Dead Rising Def Jam: Icon Devil May Cry 4 DJ Hero Dragon Age: Origins Dragonball Z: Burst Limit Dynasty Warriors 6 Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce Earth Defense Force 2017 Enemy Territories: Quake Wars Eternal Sonata Fallout 3 Far Cry: Instincts Far Cry 2 F.E.A.R. F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin F.E.A.R. Files FIFA 07 FIFA 08 FIFA 09 FIFA 10 FIFA 11 Fight Night Round 4 Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIII Flatout: Ultimate Carnage Football Manager 2006 Football Manager 2007 Forza Motorsport 2 Forza Motorsport 3 Fuel __________________ Last edited by Mightymango; 06-20-2011 at 10:35 PM.

02-10-2009, 02:53 AM	#2
LilMissRoxy Tom's PIC Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,301 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 11 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	The Tough 1000 CONTINUED:- Gears of War Gears of War 2 Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Grand Theft Auto 4 Guilty Gear 2: Overture Guitar Hero 2 Guitar Hero 3 Guitar Hero: Metallica Guitar Hero: Smash Hits Guitar Hero: Van Halen Guitar Hero World Tour Green Day: Rock Band Half Life 2: The Orange Box Halo Wars James Bond 007 : Blood Stone Infinite Undiscovery Kameo: Elements of Power Kane and Lynch Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom Last Remnant Left 4 Dead Lost Odyssey Lost Planet Lost Planet 2 Lost Planet: Colonies Mass Effect Medal Of Honor: Airborne Midnight Club LA MLB 2K8 MLB 2K9 Monster Madness: Battle For Suburbia Mortal Kombat Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe MotoGP 06 MotoGP 07 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja Nascar 08 Nascar 2009 Need for Speed: Carbon NHL 09 Ninja Blade Ninja Gaiden 2 Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad Operation Darkness Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising Over G Fighters Overlord Perfect Dark: Zero Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 Project Gotham Racing 3 Prototype Quake 4 (you literally have to be the best in the world for this one) Raiden Fighter Aces Rainbow Six: Vegas Rapala Tournament Fishing Rayman Raving Rabbids Record of Agarest War Resonance of Fate Ridge Racer 6 Rock Band Rock Band 2 Rock Revolution Rockstar Table Tennis Rumble Roses Double X __________________ Last edited by Mightymango; 06-20-2011 at 10:37 PM.

02-10-2009, 02:53 AM	#3
LilMissRoxy Tom's PIC Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,301 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 11 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	The Tough 1000 CONTINUED:- Sacred 2 Saints Row Saints Row 2 Sega Rally Revo Shadowrun Sonic the Hedgehog Sonic Unleashed Spiderman 3 Splinter Cell Double Agent Star Ocean: The Last Hope Star Trek Legacy Stormrise Street Fighter IV Supreme Commander Tales of Vesperia The Godfather (835/1000) The Outfit The Saboteur Test Drive Unlimited Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 Tom Clancy's EndWar Tony Hawk's: Project 8 Tony Hawk's Proving Grounds Too Human Turok UEFA Champions League 2006-2007 UFC 2009 Undisputed (950/1000) Unreal Tournament 3 Vampire Rain Virtua Figher 5 Online Virtua Tennis 3 Wartech: Senko No Ronde Warriors Orochi Warriors Orochi 2 Wolfenstein Way of the Samurai 3 World Championship Poker: All In World Series of Poker: 2008 World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions Last edited by LilMissRoxy; 08-29-2010 at 08:57 PM.

02-10-2009, 02:55 AM	#4
LilMissRoxy Tom's PIC Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,301 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 11 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	The Tough/Long 1000 Change Log June 20, 2011 Added Mortal Kombat Added Bass Pro Shops : The Hunt Added Fifa 2011 Added James Bond 007 : Blood Stone Added Armored Core for Answer August 29, 2010: Added: Nascar 2009 Added: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising Added: Resonance of Fate Added: Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce Added: Guilty Gear 2: Overture Added: Lost Planet 2 Added: Record of Agarest War Added: Blur Added: Beautiful Katamari Added: Green Day: Rock Band April 4, 2010: Added: Way of the Samurai 3 Added: Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad March 24, 2010: Added: Wolfenstein Added: Guitar Hero: Van Halen Added: Aliens vs. Predator Added: Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe Added: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Added: The Saboteur Added: Final Fantasy XIII Added: DJ Hero Removed: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 February 7, 2010: Added: Conflict: Denied Ops Removed: Chromehounds January 24, 2010: Added: FIFA 10, UFC 2009 Undisputed, Dragon Age, Forza 3, Sacred 2, Fight Night Round 4. August 10, 2009: Added: Prototype, Stormrise, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2, Wartech Senko No Ronde, Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009, Sonic Unleashed and Fuel. July 10, 2009: Added: Supreme Commander June 26, 2009: Added: Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, Guitar Hero Metallica, Guitar Hero Smash Hits, MLB 2K9, NHL 09, Ninja Blade, and Raiden Fighter Aces. Removed: Call of Duty 2 and 4. Feedback is welcome. Within the new few days I will have updated the list to include links to their respective achievement guide. __________________ Last edited by Mightymango; 06-20-2011 at 10:36 PM.

02-10-2009, 02:59 AM	#5
Itsbrown4606 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,596 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	So, from what I gather from Method in the Quick 1000s, the original keeper of the thread is unavailable to keep up with it or something? EDIT: You know, I just thought of something. Could you list the main reason why the game is tough? Like for CoD4 it could be for "skill," and for one of those +100 hour or +1 playthrough games you could say "requires lengthy play time.* Last edited by Itsbrown4606; 02-10-2009 at 03:04 AM.

02-10-2009, 03:07 AM	#6
KingBroly Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 961 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Tales of Vesperia requires A LOT of time, 3 playthroughs minimum, at least 150 hours of commitment. Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts takes around 30 hours for single player if you constantly use the Leaderboards, without you're looking at 40-50, and around 15-20 hours of multiplayer due to the MP parties as well as overall lack of players. Speaking of that, I'd say that games with multiplayer that have a "Lack of Online Community" qualifies as it being tough to get to 1000g. If you can't find X amount of people to play it, you're out of luck. __________________ I don't accept Friend Requests without Messages Completed Games: TMNT, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (1250), Halo 3 (1750), Fable II (1350), Tomb Raider: Underworld, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (1250), Resident Evil 5 (1300), Tales of Vesperia, Halo 3: ODST, Modern Warfare 2, Bayonetta, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, Madden NFL 11, Borderlands (1750), Mass Effect 2 (1355), Sonic Generations

02-10-2009, 03:13 AM	#8
KingBroly Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 961 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	I'm just bringing up the point for contention. Whether it is deemed valid or not is not a concern of mine. I could also say all games with extreme button mashing mini-games deserve to be on this list considering button mashing events suck. __________________ I don't accept Friend Requests without Messages Completed Games: TMNT, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (1250), Halo 3 (1750), Fable II (1350), Tomb Raider: Underworld, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (1250), Resident Evil 5 (1300), Tales of Vesperia, Halo 3: ODST, Modern Warfare 2, Bayonetta, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, Madden NFL 11, Borderlands (1750), Mass Effect 2 (1355), Sonic Generations

02-10-2009, 04:04 AM	#9
Turbulence 0 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 232 View My x360a Profile	edit:thats two games i suggested that are listed i gotta read more carefully) __________________ Don't go around fire expecting not to sweat. Find me drifting on FM4 or killing try hards and beginners on BO2 retired achievement hunter (617) Boston stand up! Last edited by Turbulence 0; 02-10-2009 at 04:10 AM.

02-10-2009, 08:54 AM	#11
Eternal Kind of a Big Deal... Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,644 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	I think EndWar should be on that list... It takes a massive amount of skill to get the single player achievements, and even with a boosting partner it will take hundreds of hours to get every multiplayer achievement. Not to mention that some of them require the Theater of War to be in a specific phase.

02-10-2009, 09:13 AM	#12
B A R 4 D Reacher Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 13,511 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	good list..i dont really notice anything getting added in lol.. __________________ 2nd gamer on x360a to finish both versions of GTA IV.

02-10-2009, 10:04 AM	#13
frank9080 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 435 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Beijing 08 needs to be added __________________ Completed Retail=93 Top 3(in order):GH2~GOW~Beijing 2008 Best movie ever: Saving Private Ryan #15 to GH:A 1000 #50 to Beijing 2008 #66 to SC4 Funeral For A Friend=Greatest Band

02-12-2009, 04:23 PM	#15
The Globalizer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 167 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	I'd say Tiger Woods 09 probably belongs on this list. I've been playing it a nightmarish amount of time over the last month, and I'm only up to 725. These achievements are fairly tough and/or time-consuming: * Scratch (50k GamerNet points) * Club Champ (I'm stuck around 10.5 / 11.5 / 9.5 / 11.5 at my best) * All your Balls are Belong to Us (win almost all trophy balls, including a number of full-season trophies and eagling every par 5 in the game) * Furry Fairways (have to get the $5mil bunny suit first) * Ace in the Hole * An Albatross Nickel (not a ton of reachable par 5s in the game) * Medalist * Course Management Granted, if you play the entire game from an achievement guide perspective, you could probably get through these in reasonable time, but if you're playing the game as designed, forget it. __________________ Last edited by The Globalizer; 02-12-2009 at 04:25 PM.

02-12-2009, 04:42 PM	#16
Lemon Of Life Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Sussex Posts: 439 View My x360a Profile	seems like a good list.

02-12-2009, 05:11 PM	#17
Z3R0 S1X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,188 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Rock Band 2 needs to be added. A place can be reserved for Guitar Hero: Metallica since it will probably have some incredibly hard achievements. __________________

02-19-2009, 05:07 PM	#18
Nosomee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 123 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	I don't see Operation Darkness on here, and it definately takes some time. 35 hours for 550/1000 (27 missions), then god knows how long for the 40+ missions needed for the other 450, and thats if you back up your saves, otherwise its another 35 hours. __________________ 92 Retail 100% 20 XBLA 100% 1st in the world to 1000 MONOPOLY! 1st on x360a to 1000 Operation Darkness 1st on x360a to 200 Greed Corp 2nd world to 1000 Cabelas Outdoor Adventure 2nd on x360a to 1000 Cabela's NAA 2nd on x360a to 1000 Ben 10: Vilgax Attacks 2nd on x360a to 200 Plants vs Zombies 2nd on x360a to 200 Clash of Heroes

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02-20-2009, 12:09 AM	#19
Chris Hoke Join Date: May 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 137 View My x360a Profile	Why does it say it is impossible to get 900 points or above in one of the criteria? Nvm it only has to meet one I got you now you mean glitched achievements, I thought you were saying GOW and Gow 2 were impossible. __________________

02-20-2009, 01:13 AM	#20
Bass Slapper94 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brentwood, CA Posts: 143 View My x360a Profile	- Rock Band 2 since you need to play online and cooperate with others to get the achievements like the one where you have to stay in overdrive for 90 seconds. And also for the Vinyl, Gold, and Platinum award achievements. It approximately takes about 6 hours and 30 minutes to finish the "Endless Setlist"(without pausing).More if you take breaks(obviously).You also need to beat all the venues and need to play 25 challenges on expert for the Challenge Savant achievement. If you are not so good on games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero, this will take lots of time. If you are, then it will be easier, but will also need to dedicate time to the game. - I don't know about you guys, but Assasain's Creed took a very long time for me! Especially finding the flags and those 40 special guards(forgot the name).But luckily, that's where the achievement guide comes in perfect use! The actual storyline isn't really that hard, but will take maybe 2 playthroughs? Correct me if I am wrong. - Bioshock should also be in there because it's challenging in some ways, like beating the game on hard or finding all the audioa diarys. It will take 2 possibly 3 playthroughs, mainly for the time consuming ones like Seriously Good At This, Brass Balls, Historian(If you can do in 1 game), Tonic Collector, Little Sister Savior and Dealt with every Little Sister.Maybe even maxing out all your weapons will be tough for some because you have to find all the weapon upgraders. Most will come naturally if you are following an achievement guide. - And last one from me(maybe) is Civilization Revolution because of the strategy you will have to use. Not only you will have to obtain a victory with every civilization, but you need to also beat the hard difficultys like deity. It's very time consuming and is pretty hard. Last edited by Bass Slapper94; 02-20-2009 at 01:19 AM.

02-20-2009, 02:34 PM	#22
The Globalizer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 167 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	I want to agree with Bass Slapper94 in principle, but I think the issue here is the achievement guide vs. organic approach. Personally, I like to get achievements without someone telling me exactly how to do it. That takes a lot of time. (But for me, it's a lot more fun; I only use achievement guides to discover secret achievements and untangle something glitchy.) I'm happy with my 500 points/week since I got my 360 in early January, as I've learned and earned the hell of those points. That said, if your only concern is racking up GS, then strategy/difficulty considerations mostly go out the window. __________________

02-20-2009, 02:55 PM	#23
MikeydCT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Orange, CT Posts: 452 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Lost Planet: Colonies should be added

02-20-2009, 10:37 PM	#24
Kamakazi Pear Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Devon, England Posts: 1,032 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Viva Pinata should be added. Master Longetivity (20G) - Play for 50 Hours. And Tom Clancy's Endwar. The online achievements are so difficult, they take forever, even with boosting partners. And you have to be brilliant at the game for any chance of 100% completion. And Call of Duty 4 shouldn't be up there. If you are pretty good at the game it doesn't take more than 10 hours. 20 tops. __________________ 1st in the world to get 1500/1500 on CoD:WaW 1st in the UK to 1000/1000 SSX. 100k. [: Nomnomnom. 360voice \| trueachievements Last edited by Kamakazi Pear; 02-20-2009 at 10:44 PM.

02-21-2009, 08:55 AM	#27
Vivi Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 600 View My x360a Profile	Oblivion, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Last Remnant, Tales of Vesperia and Fallout 3 take quite a long time to 100% but they can be done. Damn near impossible would go to: Rumble Roses XX Final Fantasy XI DOA Xtreme 2 __________________

02-22-2009, 06:41 PM	#28
Lufc Dan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Leeds, Uk Posts: 7 View My x360a Profile	Tony Hawks project 8 is so fricking annoying :P __________________

02-23-2009, 02:56 PM	#29
SpideR NY Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,058 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3 (more» ...) View My x360a Profile	Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 should be on this list. To get Elite probally takes like 50+ hours. You have to beat every level on Realistic (hardest), also every terrorist hunt on realistic, get 100 kills in multiplayer w/ at least 6 players with all weapon types, etc. Even if you boosted this game is a HARD 1000. __________________ Currently playing Shooter of the moment - MW3 (sucks IMO) RPG of the moment - Skyrim & Bastion Game's I going for achievements in right now - None

02-23-2009, 03:57 PM	#30
nubdge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: canada,home of games,herb Posts: 90 View My x360a Profile	let me say where the heck is the club???now that game took ages to get the "no seriously" acheev,as do the skullshots and secret skullshots,nevermind the other little easy but annoying awrd acheevs!

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