Tough/Long 1000's (or close to)

[g4m3r7ag]

This is the Tough 1000 (or close to) section. This specific section will tell you which games take you 40+ hours to get 900 or more points. There are no specific categories here. Some games may be done under 40 hours and others may be well over. It all really depends on skill level and research done.

Please do:-
• Shout if you think these guidelines aren't fair.
• Post how long it took you to attain the amount listed under (2) for any games shown above.

Please do not:-
• Post anything along the lines of "I agree with <something already on the main list>".
• Don't get into an argument over how easy you think the game is. The games on here take over 40+ hours and that means they are a tough 1000.

Criteria:-
To clarify exactly what qualifies for a "Tough 1000 (or close to)":-
(1) It is impossible to obtain 900 or more points.
(2) Obtaining the full amount available takes at least 40 hours.
(3) Obtaining the full amount available requires an intermediate to advanced level of skill.

Any of the criteria can be met. It does not have to meet all 3 points.

Games are not listed in order of difficulty.

The Tough 1000 (or close to) list:-

• 2006 FIFA World Cup
• Ace Combat 6
• Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
• Battlefield Bad Company
• Bladestorm: The Hundred Year War
• Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII
• Blitz: The League
• Blue Dragon
• Bomberman: Act Zero
• Burnout Paradise
• Burnout Revenge
• Call of Duty 2
• Call of Duty 3
• Call of Duty 4
• Call of Duty: World At War
• College Hoops 2K7
• Championship Manager 2007 [PAL]
• Chromehounds
• Command & Conquer 3
• Culdcept Saga
• DDR Universe
• DDR Universe 2
• DDR Universe 3
• Dead or Alive 4
• Dead or Alive Xtreme 2
• Dead Rising
• Def Jam: Icon
• Devil May Cry 4
• Dragonball Z: Burst Limit
• Dynasty Warriors 6
• Dynasty Warriors: Gundam
• Earth Defense Force 2017
• Eternal Sonata
• FarCry Instincts Predator
• FarCry 2
• F.E.A.R.
• F.E.A.R. Files
• FIFA 07
• FIFA 08
• FIFA 09
• Final Fantasy XI
• Flatout: Ultimate Carnage
• Football Manager 2006
• Football Manager 2007
• Forza 2
• Gears of War
• Gears of War 2
• Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
• Grand Theft Auto 4
• Guitar Hero 2
• Guitar Hero 3
• Guitar Hero World Tour
• Half Life 2: The Orange Box
• Infinite Undiscovery
• Kameo: Elements of Power
• Kane and Lynch
• Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
• Last Remnant
• Left 4 Dead
• Lost Odyssey
• Lost Planet
• Mass Effect
• Medal Of Honor: Airborne
• Midnight Club LA
• MLB 2K8
• Monster Madness: Battle For Suburbia
• Moto GP 06
• MotoGP 07
• Naruto
• Nascar 08
• Need for Speed: Carbon
• Ninja Gaiden 2
• Over G
• Overlord
• Perfect Dark: Zero
• Pro Evolution 2008
• Project Gotham Racing 3
• Quake 4 (you literally have to be the best in the world for this one)
• Quake Wars
• Rainbow Six: Vegas
• Rapala Tournament Fishing
• Rayman Raving Rabbids
• Ridge Racer 6
• Rock Band
• Rock Revolution
• Rockstar Table Tennis
• Rumble Roses XX
• Saints Row
• Saints Row 2
• Sega Rally
• Shadowrun
• Sonic the Hedgehog
• Spiderman 3 (Guide)
• Splinter Cell Double Agent
• Star Trek Legacy
• The Godfather (835pts)
• The Outfit
• Test Drive Unlimited
• Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
• Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08
• Tony Hawk: Project 8
• Tony Hawk's Proving Grounds
• Too Human
• Turok
• UEFA Champions League 2006-2007
• Unreal Tournament 3
• Vampire's Rain
• Virtua Figher 5 Online
• Virtua Tennis 3
• Warriors Orochi
• Warriors Orochi 2
• World Championship Poker: All-In
• WSOP 2008
• WSOP: Tournament of Champions

[JoeHacker90]

PGR3 should not be on here. its very easy if you play it. instead of messing around online.

[luggs69]

i think you should add world championship snooker because it is a tough one to get 1000 on and virtua tennis should be on there.

[MangeM]

I'd say Guitar Hero II deserves to be on this list, for pure mortals it's possibly an easy 250-300 but the full 1000 is out of reach for most of us.

[TheColdWolf]

Originally Posted by MangeM

I'd say Guitar Hero II deserves to be on this list, for pure mortals it's possibly an easy 250-300 but the full 1000 is out of reach for most of us.

Also add DDR to the list that seems to be hard to other people

[Defcizion]

Originally Posted by tigpoppa

quick question why is dead rising and the outfit on there but gears isnt?
serious requires 10000 kills that must be a lifetime.

I wouldn't call it a lifetime. It just depends on how often you play the game. Take Halo for example, I've added up my lifetime kills, and this is dating back to a month ago and I was at 100,358. So yeah.

[Kazdan]

I wonder why Call of Duty 2 is on this list. Yes, the game is pretty hard on Veteran difficulty, but c'mon, you only have to complete the game once and you'll get all the achievements.

And yes, Gears of War is no doubt tough 1000. The Seriously-achievement takes ages.

[eXodusOnFiRe]

Originally Posted by Kazdan

I wonder why Call of Duty 2 is on this list. Yes, the game is pretty hard on Veteran difficulty, but c'mon, you only have to complete the game once and you'll get all the achievements.

And yes, Gears of War is no doubt tough 1000. The Seriously-achievement takes ages.

It depends on how you define "tough". CoD2 is a tough 1000 because beating that game on Veteran is right next to insanely difficult, it requires memorization of enemy locations, and quick reflexes...and the patience for the many retries that lie ahead.

Gears is not a tough 1000 simply for the fact that you don't really have to 'work' for your achievements. Simply playing the game will earn you the achievements eventually. It isn't like you have to put forth extra effort. So yeah, it isn't about skill, it's about time played. So it isn't really tough, it's just long.

-X

[ButtnutDude1]

Originally Posted by MangeM

I'd say Guitar Hero II deserves to be on this list, for pure mortals it's possibly an easy 250-300 but the full 1000 is out of reach for most of us.

I agree, no matter how hard I try I could never beat a song on expert. It is definetly impossible.

[highpass]

Please note the criteria we've added. If you believe a game does not fall under any of the criteria shown, let us know.

Originally Posted by eXodusOnFiRe

Gears is not a tough 1000 simply for the fact that you don't really have to 'work' for your achievements. Simply playing the game will earn you the achievements eventually. It isn't like you have to put forth extra effort. So yeah, it isn't about skill, it's about time played. So it isn't really tough, it's just long.

These are the same as my thoughts on it. Whilst it doesn't require much skill it does indeed fall under criteria (2) of requiring 40 hours minimum playtime, so we'll add that, cheers eX.

Originally Posted by Kazdan

I wonder why Call of Duty 2 is on this list. Yes, the game is pretty hard on Veteran difficulty, but c'mon, you only have to complete the game once and you'll get all the achievements.

Answered your own question there matey

Originally Posted by ButtnutDude1

I agree, no matter how hard I try I could never beat a song on expert. It is definetly impossible.

Added.

[Kazdan]

Originally Posted by eXodusOnFiRe

It depends on how you define "tough". CoD2 is a tough 1000 because beating that game on Veteran is right next to insanely difficult, it requires memorization of enemy locations, and quick reflexes...and the patience for the many retries that lie ahead.

Gears is not a tough 1000 simply for the fact that you don't really have to 'work' for your achievements. Simply playing the game will earn you the achievements eventually. It isn't like you have to put forth extra effort. So yeah, it isn't about skill, it's about time played. So it isn't really tough, it's just long.

-X

You're right, but I still think GoW should be on this list. It takes like a week from a good player to complete CoD 2 on veteran difficulty, but it takes at least few months to get the Seriously-achievement. And what do you mean Gears of War isn't about skill? Of course it is. You have to kill people, and it takes skill to get kills. I think you mean Rainbow Six Vegas multiplayer. You don't need any skill in that game when you play multiplayer.

[codedigital]

Originally Posted by ButtnutDude1

I agree, no matter how hard I try I could never beat a song on expert. It is definetly impossible.

But I can...and 8 out of 10 of my friends that play can...and have just about beaten expert.

[RedRaider717]

I agree, with practice most people can beat the majority of the expert songs. Now getting all expert songs 5 stars is damn near impossible and very frustrating.

[angry]

I think Prey should be on th elist also as sthat game is not easy to get the 1000/1000.

[Kazdan]

Originally Posted by angry

I think Prey should be on th elist also as sthat game is not easy to get the 1000/1000.

Are you serious? Prey is the only game that I've beaten 100% under 3 days. Yes, it's THAT easy. It's listed on the other list (Easy 1000's).

[eXodusOnFiRe]

Originally Posted by Kazdan

Are you serious? Prey is the only game that I've beaten 100% under 3 days. Yes, it's THAT easy. It's listed on the other list (Easy 1000's).

Really? I almost threw up when I played that game online for all the 12 minutes that I did. That game is such a ripoff of Quake, and it does it horribly. I think the only thing that would be hard about that game is actually playing it online.

My experience with it was so bad man....god it gives me chills. Otherwise, I agree with you, I mean I think you get half of the achievements just by completing the storyline.

-X

[ZyNLeX]

Prey isn't hard.

So dunno what your talking about.

[Rocket]

HITMAN: BLOOD MONEY I would have to disagree that this is a ''tough'' 1000 points...1, the only thing that would make it ''tough'' is that you must complete the game itself 4 different times, however, this does not take 40 hours. 16 tops for actual playing time as you can beat professional in 4 hours as I have done so, making the others the same amount of time if not faster. It does have the redundancy factor with playing it 4 times and getting the other little miniscule achievements, but all those can be earned on Rookie and can be done without having to redo a map at all. Getting the Silent Assasins, with or without a guide on each and every level, yes each and every level, is really simple. There is only one level that I didn't get Silent Assassin on profesional, and that was the white house level because I just wanted to end the game and get it over with finally. So I would honestly say that this isn't a TOUGH 1000, more so a MEDIUM 1000, as its only the fact that you must go through it 4 times, but that in itself is less than 20 hours, even if its your first hitman game, thats my take on it.

[xIIZombieIIx]

I totally agree with dead or alive xtreme 2 being on there... i have played this game quite a few times... the achievements are damn near impossible... or so ungodly time consuming you dont even want them anymore... but i want to like this game too much to get rid of it... i think im in denial...

[shadow sniper]

burnout no way

[Cyrex]

i would also have to say MUA, it takes over 40 hours to get all those killing achievements, and you also have to get a gold on all the seperate comic missions, plus the 100 arcade victories

[highpass]

I'd have to agree about Hitman, once you've got a good method going it's pretty simple. M:UA added. Thanks.

[Otaking584]

I have to disagree about M:UA considering all but a few of the achievements can be gotten with two play throughs of the game. The only ones that could be even remotly hard are the outfits and comic missions, but if you play it right they are easy. Long long it takes you to get the achievements just depends on how smart your are with playing. Hell is you have a list of the achievements then it honestly shouldn't take you more than 40 hours to get them.

You should add Earth Defense Force 2017. It will easily take you over 40 hours to beat even though it's not that difficult to play.

[Spliff Starz]

PGR3 shouldn't be on there.

[LastDemon Lord]

Call of Duty 2 deffinatle does not belong on here

[jkkj]

PGR3 belongs here. It takes time to get all the platinum medals and the Tournament Qualifier ain't no picnic.
And sure, COD 2 is a bitch on veteran, but compared to COD3, it's pretty easy (achievement wise).

[|oneyedNewb|]

COD 3 isn't tough! (not including the grizzled vet. acheivement) but even so you will get past the tough levels sooner or later... most of the acheivements
are time consuming...Not hard!

[codedigital]

Originally Posted by |oneyedNewb|

COD 3 isn't tough! (not including the grizzled vet. acheivement) but even so you will get past the tough levels sooner or later... most of the acheivements
are time consuming...Not hard!

Sounds to me like it falls under this one:
(3) Obtaining the full amount available requires an intermediate to advanced level of skill.

[Eyeradicate]

Dead Rising Should definatly be on here. I'm one of the only ones I know that have a full 1000/1000 and that took me over 130 hours and a lot of headaches to do so. Gears of War, for the most part is easy, "The Nuge" Achievement is probally the hardest (at least for me)

[ChrisReeve1991]

Wow i cant belive that it hasnt been mentioned yet but without a doubt Oblivion should be on there because even though i have got 1000 gamescore on it, it took months and a lot of late nights to finish it because the game has like 6 different quests to do along with all the side 1s