Game is stupid hard

[The Rabbit Suit]

Originally Posted by Terransheep

yeah,... have to agree with that...

walking on top of the church always make my hands sweat... had to dry hands every min...

Ring of Fog (or Hidden Body spell) always helped out there. Just sticking to the right side. The sniper against the wall you need to go to won't even realize you're there until you're a few feet away from him.

I put my summon sign down on the bridge and I was commonly summoned for the entire section rather than just the executioner and dragonslayer, so I had to deal with those guys a lot.

[ProtossAsassin]

So this game is so dumb. I understand that's a very unintelligent thing to say but without being vulgar I'm not sure how to describe it. quick back story I bought this game Day 1 cause I love me so good RPGing and like many rage quit the game for almost a year just recently came back and actually got into the wiki and checking out builds and what not. I started really holding my own in game as a faith build which was cool but with decent tweaks to the build i fell into place well "POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT" I think the final boss is garbage he has literally no stamina he can pretty much infinite combo i literally if I get hit once I'm down and i cant even get up cause this mofo wants to to ulti-hit combo every second and i literally have no time to do anything. just saying is all.... and for the people who comment on this. I'm not retarded I know how to play a game, as I am very good at games but undeniably whether this game is meant to be uber hard we can all agree there are some cheat moves and cheat programming in this game

[SuNuS]

Originally Posted by ProtossAsassin

So this game is so dumb. I understand that's a very unintelligent thing to say but without being vulgar I'm not sure how to describe it. quick back story I bought this game Day 1 cause I love me so good RPGing and like many rage quit the game for almost a year just recently came back and actually got into the wiki and checking out builds and what not. I started really holding my own in game as a faith build which was cool but with decent tweaks to the build i fell into place well "POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT" I think the final boss is garbage he has literally no stamina he can pretty much infinite combo i literally if I get hit once I'm down and i cant even get up cause this mofo wants to to ulti-hit combo every second and i literally have no time to do anything. just saying is all.... and for the people who comment on this. I'm not retarded I know how to play a game, as I am very good at games but undeniably whether this game is meant to be uber hard we can all agree there are some cheat moves and cheat programming in this game

This game is about one thing and one thing only.....memory. You literally have to know and even visually recognize every enemies move set. I can't even count how many times I have played this game and it remains one of my favorite games of all time.

The key to beating mr. "Lord of Cinder" is parry and riposte. It's very difficult to time but with practice he becomes just another enemy.

I'd say since you obviously made it to the final boss that you probably like it more than you let on Proto. Just keep with it and keep your eyes on the move sets and you will become a loyal Souls fan!

[BloodGodAlucard]

Originally Posted by SuNuS

This game is about one thing and one thing only.....memory. You literally have to know and even visually recognize every enemies move set. I can't even count how many times I have played this game and it remains one of my favorite games of all time.

The key to beating mr. "Lord of Cinder" is parry and riposte. It's very difficult to time but with practice he becomes just another enemy.

I'd say since you obviously made it to the final boss that you probably like it more than you let on Proto. Just keep with it and keep your eyes on the move sets and you will become a loyal Souls fan!

Good encouraging advice as usual SuNus. Another good tip is despite his name and powers, Gwyn is incredibly weak to fire. So if you have a maxed out pyromancy flame and a good fire enchanted weapon, you can put on heavy armor and just tank him. You'll absolutely destroy him with all of your "fire power."

[SuNuS]

Originally Posted by BloodGodAlucard

Good encouraging advice as usual SuNus. Another good tip is despite his name and powers, Gwyn is incredibly weak to fire. So if you have a maxed out pyromancy flame and a good fire enchanted weapon, you can put on heavy armor and just tank him. You'll absolutely destroy him with all of your "fire power."

Indeed Blood! Before I learned how much parry can help I used great combustion. Close range, block and spam combustion until he poofs. Parry just makes you feel like a badass once you pull it off.

[BloodGodAlucard]

Originally Posted by SuNuS

Indeed Blood! Before I learned how much parry can help I used great combustion. Close range, block and spam combustion until he poofs. Parry just makes you feel like a badass once you pull it off.

Very true. I love getting a parry on his jumping attack. Once you get the timing down for the parry, that fight is really more comical than difficult. He just can't do anything against it.

[josh862004]

I agree. I 've never gotten the tank method down enough to use it but parry/ripost makes you feel like such a badass once you get it down. Like every other enemy in DS ince you gethe moveset down and kick his ass therr is nothing like the adrenaline rush you get afterwards! Good luck man and dont give up. Probably took me 20 tries the first time i killed him

[Deviltry]

Personaly I'm disappointed by difficulty. Fight mechanics are damn easy (even World of Warcraft bosses had more difficult mechanics lulz). Ofcourse you'll die a lot until you get the hang out of it, but cleared Anor Londo and Darkroot Garden/Basin without deaths in New Game+ and quit. No challenge at all. ;/

First time meeting Capra Demon was epic - you cross the fog, b**** jumps on you and you die. Multiple times.

[Dog Face]

Yeah, I'm yet to see what makes this game so difficult too. Maybe I'll be eating my own words later but so far nothing has been a problem.

[MikeyTruant]

This game ♥ Is one of my proudest 1000g games, but it was hell, taught me a mass amount of patience until my second or third run, you will get frustrated, you will die a lot, but it's worth it

Praise the sun!

[FPS GLIMMER]

Im stuck with 890 in it because of the crafting achievments. I have beat it twice and I die more from regular enemies then boss ones now.

[KriugerisLT]

Managed to one-shot Gwyn on my NG++++ playthrough. Got my health low, equipped the Red tearstone ring + Hornet's ring, as soon as I entered the boss area, popped the "Power Within" pyromancy with a non upgraded pyro flame. Used a Target Shield to parry him and one-shot him with a +5 Crystal Demon's Greataxe. Don't remember exactly how much damage I did, but it was in the 8k+ zone I believe Took me two tries to pull this off, because on the first one I missed the parry and got clobbered.

Also remembered the first time I fought against him. With full havel + Iron flesh. Whacking at him with a +5 Lightning Partizan. Ahh, memories of the first playthrough still remain.

Three things that you have to keep in mind when playing a ___ Souls game. Patience, focus and never rush or act like a badass and aggro everything - you'll die, no matter what your level is, or what you are wearing.

[ICT Venom]

I actually just recently started playing this game, and I am really enjoying it. Some of the bosses are very cheap, such as the Stray Demon mentioned earlier. I actually killed him for the first time last night, after dying about 5 or 6 times. I have to agree, the key is knowing the move set of your enemy. On the Stray Demon, I just kept diving in between his legs to get behind him, and smacked him with my +14 Ugigatana, and then rolled again when he turned around. Once you finally figure out how to kill things in this game, it is a very rewarding experience! Love this game!

[Gackt]

Originally Posted by ICT Venom

I actually just recently started playing this game, and I am really enjoying it. Some of the bosses are very cheap, such as the Stray Demon mentioned earlier. I actually killed him for the first time last night, after dying about 5 or 6 times. I have to agree, the key is knowing the move set of your enemy. On the Stray Demon, I just kept diving in between his legs to get behind him, and smacked him with my +14 Ugigatana, and then rolled again when he turned around. Once you finally figure out how to kill things in this game, it is a very rewarding experience! Love this game!

I agree about learning the patterns of your enemy. But I don't agree with any of the bosses being cheap. No enemy in the game really has any cheap moves they do. Everything can be dodged/blocked/parry'd
More importantly, I am glad you are loving the game

[KriugerisLT]

A quick tip. Every fatty enemy in the game is weak to bleeding. Asylum Demon/Stray Demon/Snorla... I mean Smough are especially weak to bleeding attacks. First time I killed the Stray Demon with an unupgraded Uchi by literally slashing at his ass and bleeding him to death. Winning.

[ghostx30]

Stray can be tough at first. But, once you know where and when to be, he's a breeze. It comes down more to patience than anything. Give him a couple whacks, get the hell out of the way of his AOE fart blast spell, then rinse and repeat until a slab and a good time are had by all. And anything with bleeding damage will dispose of him very quickly. Chunks of health will peel off.

[u7sr]

also what kinda damage they do, many confuse fire vs magic, it's no coincidence you get a good magic resistant shield before the fight, if you don't fall down right away

The only boss i really hate is the bed of chaos or whatever it is...

[KriugerisLT]

Originally Posted by u7sr

also what kinda damage they do, many confuse fire vs magic, it's no coincidence you get a good magic resistant shield before the fight, if you don't fall down right away

The only boss i really hate is the bed of chaos or whatever it is...

They do magic damage. If you want to end the fight almost instantly. Get the Magic Barrier from Reah of Thorolund and the Great Magic Barrier from Ash Lake. Magic barrier reduces magic damage by ~70% I believe, and the Great Magic Barrier by ~90% or so. It's also extremely effective in the Four Kings battle. Basically nullifies all their damage when the miracle is active. Even their sword damage is significantly reduced.

[Kakihara Zero]

Currently stuck on him myself. But I was reading some things which I may try to make it a bit easier for myself.

[I X I Shock I]

As everyone says, it's all about learning the way the bosses fight. I recently started playing it again, just got too back logged on new games and DaS was taking way too much time. So restarted my guy for the whole experience and just beat Quelaag. Took one try to remember her attack set from before, second try beat her without being hit once. Best advice is to take the first 5 mins of a boss fight to play defensively, learn the attacks, and find the ones that leave spaces for a couple of attacks. Take advantage of those moments and majority of them will be a sinch.

[SuNuS]

Originally Posted by I X I Shock I

As everyone says, it's all about learning the way the bosses fight. I recently started playing it again, just got too back logged on new games and DaS was taking way too much time. So restarted my guy for the whole experience and just beat Quelaag. Took one try to remember her attack set from before, second try beat her without being hit once. Best advice is to take the first 5 mins of a boss fight to play defensively, learn the attacks, and find the ones that leave spaces for a couple of attacks. Take advantage of those moments and majority of them will be a sinch.

That is exactly how I learned all the bosses. Spend a few minutes running and dodging while watching the move set animations. I will add that getting greedy will end you fairly fast in DS.

Always avoid the "one more hit should do it but I'm impatient!" attitude.

[o0ArA0o]

Originally Posted by u7sr

also what kinda damage they do, many confuse fire vs magic, it's no coincidence you get a good magic resistant shield before the fight, if you don't fall down right away

The only boss i really hate is the bed of chaos or whatever it is...

It´s actually the easiest battle of the game.
Bring a bow and some arrows with you, then go right, slash the glowing root away and log out. You will restart at the fog gate. Go left and hug to the wall, jump through the root and you are in shooting range. Shoot at the bottom of the 2nd glowing root, log out again.
After that wait for his left right combo and run towards him slightly to the right and jump in the hole to defeat, whatever this is. Congrats.

If you want to do it legit, high poise + heavy armor helps and watch your feet

[Aceman417]

Getting really annoyed with this game. The bird just picked me up right at the start and I don't know where to go now. Also the skeletons are crazy strong. Might take this game back.

[Merch]

Originally Posted by Aceman417

Getting really annoyed with this game. The bird just picked me up right at the start and I don't know where to go now. Also the skeletons are crazy strong. Might take this game back.

You're going the wrong way, turn around and take the path up the hill

[sleepymexican45]

Do not take it back!!!! Give it a chance, the first few hours are difficult and the skellys are sposed to be killed a lot later. just go up the steps towards the viaduct/bridge. just be careful

also for the next few hours I would definitely recommend using a walkthrough.

[OBSdrewcifer]

I regret having ever even heard of this title. As if going around constantly getting slaughtered by random enemy encounters or traps that have no warning at all until they kill you wasn't bad enough add on that griefers who jump in to kill you at the most terrible times. This game has no concept what so ever of how to properly reward the players, no matter how many bosses I manage to struggle through it never seems to improve my over all character or gameplay. Having finally made it to Sen's and being killed by an invading player then loosing all my humanity to the axes on the bridge whilst attempting to recover from the first death I've decided I am 100% done with this game. The learning curve is far to steep with a level of this kind of difficulty coupled with d-bag griefers. I've heard so many people say "but it's so rewarding when you make it past a zone" and to them I say "no, no it is not, and I'm fairly sure you have suffered some form of massive brain damage".

[Dog Face]

If you're tired of being invaded play hollow and only reverse when you're near a bonfire and need help with a boss. Seems like you're trying to play through the game to fast as well.

What kind of character are you playing as?

[BloodGodAlucard]

Originally Posted by Dog Face

If you're tired of being invaded play hollow and only reverse when you're near a bonfire and need help with a boss. Seems like you're trying to play through the game to fast as well.

What kind of character are you playing as?

That or just start a Party at the Dashboard. I really don't know why people don't just get in the habit of doing that if you don't want to get invaded.

OBSdrewcifer, if you post your build and details on weapon and armor selection, then we can try to give you some advice on how to improve. The game really is rewarding when you get better at it. Don't give up. We were all there at one point. A large part of the Souls' series charm is in the struggle.

[Gackt]

Originally Posted by BloodGodAlucard

That or just start a Party at the Dashboard. I really don't know why people don't just get in the habit of doing that if you don't want to get invaded.

Personally think it's pathetic to play that way lol. Invasions/Summons are the best part of the game. People are really missing out if they avoid that aspect of it imo.
Of course people can play however they wish, just don't think they will get the most out of it that way.

[BloodGodAlucard]

Originally Posted by Gackt

Personally think it's pathetic to play that way lol. Invasions/Summons are the best part of the game. People are really missing out if they avoid that aspect of it imo.
Of course people can play however they wish, just don't think they will get the most out of it that way.

Oh I completely agree with you there Gackt. I only meant for his first playthrough since he really seems to be getting harassed by griefers. I don't bother with playing offline anymore when I play. I like the PvP aspect of the game. But I can also see how annoying it can be when you just want to progress.