[DLC] Achievement glitch explanation

[JeanRob]

[EDIT 7] 2011, July 18: AN1M4L has found a fix for this, please look at the solution at the end of this message.

[EDIT 6] 2010, June 24: EA now blames everything on Microsoft or Sony and has chosen to consider its customers as retards and labelling them as liars. Do not expect a patch soon...

[EDIT 5] 2010, May 25: EA still has to release a patch and issued a statement saying that they might (read "will") not release a patch if not enough people complain.

[EDIT 4] 2010, April 21: EA seems to be finally working on a patch to repair their mess since their FAQ has been updated:
"There is a known issue affecting achievements in an Army of Two: The 40th Day DLC pack. We are looking into a solution and hope to provide an update soon."

[EDIT 3] 2010, April 17: EA will NOT fix the problem, please read their OFFICIAL statement below:
"Some Army of Two 40th Day players have reported that they are unable to obtain achievements in the downloadable content if they have already obtained multiplayer achievements. This is a known issue that appears to occur at a 1:1 ratio. For example, if you have one multiplayer achievement, you can get all but one of the achievements in the downloadable content. The development team does not currently have plans to fix this issue."

[EDIT 2] EA acknowledged the problem and is working on a patch not related to this issue.

[EDIT] April 21, 2010: DLC achievements still glitched/broken/locked/whateveryoucallit. The same bug affects the PS3 trophies.

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FACTS

Electronic Arts released their new piece of DLC for Army of Two: The 40th Day on March the 18th of 2010, for 800 MS Points (10€, 10$).

1) At first, the achievement list on xbox.com wasn't updated. The people who unlocked achievements before the update on the xbox.com site will have to re-earn them again.

2) On the other hand, the achievements are seriously glitched. It is still for the moment IMPOSSIBLE to unlock them if you meet certain criterias.

AVOID THE PROBLEM

For starters, please do note that the following is just a solution to avoid the problem, not fix it. It only applies to a certain number of players.

Thanks to FarmerJay's theory, we can say for sure that depending on how many multiplayer achievements from the original 1000 you have, you won't be able to unlock those of the DLC.

For example, since there are 8 new achievements, if you already have the 8 online achievements from the original list, you won't unlock any of the new ones.

If you have 7 of them, you'll unlock 1 from the DLC (as it did happen to me); if you have 6, you'll unlock 2 and so on.

For the moment, the only way to unlock all the DLC achievements is by having none of the following multiplayer achievements.

Originally Posted by llll epic llll

DIY PMC 10

Fancy Meeting You Here 5

Job Seeker 10

Death Dealer 10

Power Couple 15

All Guns Blazing 30

Bound For Life 30

Survival of the Fittest 50

Big Game Hunting 5

King of the Hill 30

FAQ

Originally Posted by Andrew x360a

If I haven't started the game, can I simply do the DLC achievements first and then unlock the online ones from the original 1000?

Originally Posted by FarmerJay

I can confirm that a friend of mine was able to unlock ALL of the dlc achievements before getting any versus. He is now working on his versus and all are unlocking just fine so far.

The bug affects only the DLC achievements, not the original 1K. So if you unlock the DLC ones, you should be able to unlock the multiplayer ones after.

Originally Posted by Master_D

Things to Note:

1) All of your statistics are stored on your Gamer Tag on the Xbox 360 version. This includes, but not limited to money, guns, kills.

2)Games Saves on the Xbox 360 only store game progression, as in where you are level wise, as in where your current checkpoint is within the game, as in how far you are before you beat the game... Deleting these saves merely mean that you have to begin the game again.

What doesn't work:
1) Deleting your saves
2) Clearing your cache
3) Deleting/Re-downloading the DLC
4)Recovering your GT
5)Playing offline.
6)Doing all the above at once...
7)Changing the difficulty
8)Contacting EA...

MISCELLANEOUS

Please head to the original thread if you want to discuss the matter:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...d.php?t=216430

PS: I want to thank FarmerJay for coming with the aforementioned theory regarding the glitch, Masterd_D for its incredible dedication and determination in getting answers from both Microsoft & EA, JieXY for testing pretty much every fix that is hinted, AN1M4L for the fix and all the people that helped!

HOW TO FIX THE GAME! (All credits go to http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Pr...RenegadeANIM4L)

***Note: Please make sure you have all of the other "obtainable" achievements before you do this.

This was tested on a 360 Elite, with a 256MB MU and 2GB USB thumb drive. I did not have a HDD connected on my 360. (Not sure if that makes a difference but I figured I might mention it.) (This also works on n XBox 360 Slim with a 250GB HDD, thanks to Son of Kyuss for testing.)


Now these following steps will walk you through how to reset your stats for this game that are tied into your XBOX 360 Profile. This will not affect any of your other games, so no worries.

1.)Move your current profile onto your USB thumb drive. Along with your saves and DLC for this game. (Again, not sure if this makes a difference but I'm letting you know exactly what I did.)

2.)Clear your system cache. (Please google how to do this, if you don't know how.)

3.)Load up Army of Two 40th Day, as the EA logo appears, remove the USB thumb drive from your XBOX. You'll now see a message saying to reinsert the memory device, ignore this.

4.)Now start a new solo campaign, just before you select a new save to start the game (which in my case was on my MU) reinsert the thumb drive. Make sure to hit the Home button to check to see if your profile has reloaded.

5.)Now start the game. If everything worked accordingly, when your in your new game press start, and check your statistics everything should read 0. If it doesn't you did something wrong.

6.)If the above step worked, reconnect to XBOX Live and download the update for the game.
*** It's being reported that some are having issues with this step. If there are any issues, back out to the dashboard, then reload the game and accept the update.

7.)Now select your USB thumb drive with your saves, as your save device. Start the campaign, select a completed save, and replay the DLC to unlock any previously glitched achievements.

[Andrew x360a]

Thanks for covering this. At this point, has there been any word on a patch? If I havn't started the game, can I simply do the DLC achievements first and then unlock the online ones from the original 1000?

[JeanRob]

Originally Posted by Andrew x360a

At this point, has there been any word on a patch?

No sign of a patch. I checked the official forums, no one from the staff dares to answer.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/453511.page
As you can see, several people from xbox360achievements tried to get an answer over there but still nothing.

Originally Posted by Andrew x360a

If I havn't started the game, can I simply do the DLC achievements first and then unlock the online ones from the original 1000?

If the current theory is right, you can do the whole game and unlock all the DLC achievements. You can even be connected to the Xbox Live. Just be sure not to play any game in versus mode (multiplayer), this way no online achievement will unlock.

I don't know if I'm clear, but, you can play co-op, earn every achievement related to the campaign and to the DLC, if you don't have those achievements:

Originally Posted by llll epic llll

Fancy Meeting You Here 5

Job Seeker 10

DIY PMC 10

Death Dealer 10

Power Couple 15

All Guns Blazing 30

Bound For Life 30

Survival of the Fittest 50

Big Game Hunting 5

King of the Hill 30

Since we don't know for the moment if the bug is related to clearly defined achievements or just to the fact that they have to be "multiplayer", the list above has 10 of them.

Avoid getting these and you should be able to unlock those included in the DLC.

[x1979DarkKnight]

I know I have posted in another thread on the DLCand I was one that earned them before the xbox.com update but I have tried to re-earn them again after I recovering my gamertag and clearing my cache but I can't unlock them again,but tomorrow I am going to clear my cache again and play offline to see if they will unlock again and if not I will have to wait till my monday and ask the Microsoft supervisor whether they could unlock them to my gamertag so I can recover it with them added as I have earned them as EA have them on my stats for the game.


But if not EA should remove any evidence of me earning them so I can re-earn them so they appear on my gamertag and gamerscore but with EA having them appear on my stats page could be why I can't unlock them again,but really Microsoft/EA should of waited for xbox.com/xboxlive to be updated first then stick it on the markerplace for people to download.

[JieXY]

I do see a player who has got all the achievements from mygamercard.net.

It seems the new achievements worked as they should for him/her.

[JeanRob]

Originally Posted by JieXY

I do see a player who has got all the achievements from mygamercard.net.
It seems the new achievements worked as they should for him/her.

Some people might have been lucky.
Pretty much everyone I heard from have had their stats wiped out since the DLC went online. Luckily for me, I still have all my weapons and kills, but many people do have to start from scratch, including my partner in crime.

[Nevander]

I can confirm this theory is correct as well. I have seven MP achievements and I could only get the one for killing Jonah.

Why does EA always find a way to screw things up?

[JieXY]

Originally Posted by Nevander

I can confirm this theory is correct as well. I have seven MP achievements and I could only get the one for killing Jonah.

Why does EA always find a way to screw things up?

I have to admit, this is a very strange(read:F'd-up) way.

[M1keX]

I'm not surprise this dlc has problems, As soon as i saw the news thread saying it was 2 weeks early without any news from EA saying that it would be early i knew there had to be problems, hopefully it will be fixed soon until then i'll be leaving it alone.

[RonanN1]

I just bought the DLC a few hours ago (I was verry exited ) and I just found out that the achievements are glitched

...thanks EA! Good job.

[fearb4nathan]

was almost going to buy this tomorrow. Phew!

[RonanN1]

Originally Posted by fearb4nathan

was almost going to buy this tomorrow. Phew!

fearb4nathan

[baddad117]

I bought it (the DLC chapters) first day it came out and played through....no achievments unlocked. Waited a couple days to see if MS and EA would fix.....wishful thinkin'. Called MS last friday and after getting a supervisor on the phone my points were refunded. I'll repurchase onece I know the bug is fixed.

[JieXY]

Just found out a guy on Mygamercard.net who has got all the DLC achievements before any online achievement. And all the achievements unlocked with no problem. This may further prove FarmerJay's hypothesis.

[RonanN1]

...and now what?

[faded]

Originally Posted by JieXY

Just found out a guy on Mygamercard.net who has got all the DLC achievements before any online achievement. And all the achievements unlocked with no problem. This may further prove FarmerJay's hypothesis.

I downloaded the dlc today, played it with a friend of mine, I unlocked all 8 of em because I never touched multiplayer before, and my friend only got 7, the one he's missing is the "Man of the People" achievement, which unlocked for me, but he didnt get it, so i asked him did he play MP before, he told me he did a couple of weeks ago and he got 1 MP achievement (I dont know what it is though, let me ask him later) , so i think jay's hypothesis is correct

[JeanRob]

First post updated.

[I ARKLIGHT I]

Thanks for the Info... I won't buy that DLC until it is fixed or it's a DOTW. 10 bucks for 2 chapters with broken cheeves is absurd anyway.

[DKVader]

I had 4 achievements in versus prior to playing DLC. I got 4 in DLC.

Now what doesn't make sense is, I played with a friend local and he didn't have any versus achievements. He did not get "Pick a New Face" achievement.

It will still let you unlock versus achievements after getting some DLC achievements.

[FarmerJay]

Originally Posted by JeanRob

We need someone to confirm it, BUT, it shouldn't be a problem. The bug seems to affect the DLC achievements, not the original 1K. So if you unlock the DLC ones, you should be able to unlock the multiplayer ones after.

i can confirm that a friend of mine was able to unlock ALL of the dlc achievements before getting any versus. he is now working on his versus and all are unlocking just fine so far. i would guess that this would be the case for anyone else too. here is a link to his xbox profile for confirmation...

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/p...Tag=doctortrig

[JeanRob]

First post once again updated. If you guys have an idea to make it easier to read and more beautiful, send a PM.

[RonanN1]

...this will never get fixed!

[ElusiveOne96]

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I can't remember reading a response to this: does the glitch only affect those who downloaded the DLC early on before the Microsoft servers displayed the achievements, or is that everone even today?

I'm thinking that if this is valid for everyone, it's a major issue and they're bound to fix it. If it only applies to a select group of people, it'll be much lower in EA's priority.

[JieXY]

Originally Posted by ElusiveOne96

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I can't remember reading a response to this: does the glitch only affect those who downloaded the DLC early on before the Microsoft servers displayed the achievements, or is that everone even today?

I'm thinking that if this is valid for everyone, it's a major issue and they're bound to fix it. If it only applies to a select group of people, it'll be much lower in EA's priority.

I think everyone is even.

To me, I did download the DLC the day it came out, but I didn't boot the game at all until it had been reported glitchy by numerous gamers. That is to say, I installed the update needed to incorporate DLC options and tried to get the achievements after XBOX.COM displayed the DLC achievements.

[tripleb2k]

my friends and I just bought this game a few days ago and downloaded the DLC today. we haven't played any of the online matches. anyways all achievements have been unlocking correctly.
just reaffirming what farmerjay said earlier. DLC achievements work if you haven't played the online matches.

[neeker75]

Originally Posted by JeanRob

I don't know if I'm clear, but, you can play co-op, earn every achievement related to the campaign and to the DLC, if you don't have those achievements:

DIY PMC 10

Just want to confirm that you can have DIY PMC and still unlock all the DLC achievements. I don't have any versus achievements, only DIY PMC, and I beat the DLC yesterday with all 250G unlocked.

[JieXY]

We are losing faith in EA now.... oh wait, did we have any faith in EA from the very beginning?

[JeanRob]

Originally Posted by neeker75

Just want to confirm that you can have DIY PMC and still unlock all the DLC achievements. I don't have any versus achievements, only DIY PMC, and I beat the DLC yesterday with all 250G unlocked.

First post updated, thanks for the info

[B Diddy]

Hey guys check this out:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/450/368427.page

It seems to be an actual response from EA?!? The guy who posted this had posted on the main problems/updates thread on thr Ao2 TFD forums.

[nel e nel]

Originally Posted by neeker75

Just want to confirm that you can have DIY PMC and still unlock all the DLC achievements. I don't have any versus achievements, only DIY PMC, and I beat the DLC yesterday with all 250G unlocked.

Originally Posted by JeanRob

First post updated, thanks for the info

YES! This is the only MP achievement I have to date. I was going to get the DLC and resign myself to only getting 7, but with this - SCHWING!