The Official MMA Thread - Page 96

Gackt · 10-31-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZonaBoy89

Wow just read that for the TUF 10 finale theres a proposed bout between Houston Alexander Vs Kimbo Slice! Which is pretty cool and that also means Kimbo cut to 205. Should end in a KO.

I dont know if it was a UFC fight or not but I believe the last fight Alexander fought he fought at heavyweight, I cant imagine Kimbo cutting down to 205 so Houston probably moved up.

L Demonic I · 10-31-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gackt

I dont know if it was a UFC fight or not but I believe the last fight Alexander fought he fought at heavyweight, I cant imagine Kimbo cutting down to 205 so Houston probably moved up.

I agree i think it would be at Hw as well. No way kimbo can cut 30+ pounds

L Demonic I · 10-31-2009, 10:26 PM

Josh neer got dropped from the UFC. Jon fitch vs mike pierce 107

GeezusDylan160 · 10-31-2009, 11:01 PM

Yeah Houston fought at HW at the Adrenaline MMA 4 event back in...September I believe? Tim Sylvia vs. Jason Riley was the main event for the card. I'm curious to see if Kimbo can actually make the weight as well. You figure he used to be like 280ish in his street fighting days, then once he started MMA he's maintained a natural weight of 230....if he starts to shed 15-20 pounds before doing the weight cut I think he could do it. Fuck Anthony Johnson was apparently 50+ lbs away from WW 2 weeks before UFC 104! He missed by 6 pounds but still, to be 50 over and get that close and STILL win in under a minute....damn. If Johnson can do that, Kimbo can lose 30 for this fight. After this fight he should go back to HW because he doesn't belong in LHW at all.

Mike Pierce/Jon Fitch...kinda disappointed I guess but hey, there's no one else. Get Hughes back in there and have a Hughes/Fitch fight :P

Silva/Belfort for the MW title has been moved to UFC 110. So we've got Silva/Belfort for the main event and then Wandy/Akiyama as a headliner....really nice. Wonder where Marquardt goes from here considering Hendo's done with the UFC. They've gotta give Marquardt someone to hold him over until after Silva/Belfort. Nate won't get his second shot until at least june-august of 2010 now

ZonaBoy89 · 11-03-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by L Demonic I

I agree i think it would be at Hw as well. No way kimbo can cut 30+ pounds

Yeah its been announced today that its a catch weight bout at 215 because Kimbo can't quite make 205 yet.

GeezusDylan160 · 11-04-2009, 10:08 PM

So some WEC news for a change, Ed Ratcliff is set to take on Donald Cerrone as the ME for WEC 45 in December. The headliner for that event has Chris Horodecki making his WEC debut against Anthony Njokani (spelling? :P, it's a fucking weird last name). Any of you guys who haven't seen Horodecki fight, check him out, really good fighter. Also at WEC 45 Benavidez is gonna fight Rani Yahya. Real big Benavidez fan so figured I'd mention it :P

AND
The following event, WEC 46, was just recently announced as having Varner finally returning to fight Ben Henderson for the title. Gonna be a barn burner boys. Another fighter making his return on this card, Urijah Faber

. He'll be talking on Raphael Assuncao in the headliner.

Finally, Bobby Lashley is apparently just days away from finalizing a deal with Strikeforce, first fight against Ron Waterman....probably at the December Strikeforce card which is also set to feature Scott Smith and Robbie Lawler in seperate bouts.

Takamura Bear · 11-05-2009, 02:43 AM

It looks like there's a Nogueira vs. Velasquez fight in the pipeline for UFC 108: http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=9922&zoneid=2

Very interesting fight. This is a big test for Velasquez. Nog has so much more experience than Cain, so I think he might be a little too much for him but will shall see. The winner will get a title shot at some point.

UFC 108 is looking sick...but with all these fighters getting injured as of late...you never know.

It also looks like Lesnar might not be able to fight on the 108 card. He's still suffering from cock-chest-itus.

L Demonic I · 11-05-2009, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Takamura Bear

It looks like there's a Nogueira vs. Velasquez fight in the pipeline for UFC 108: http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=9922&zoneid=2

Very interesting fight. This is a big test for Velasquez. Nog has so much more experience than Cain, so I think he might be a little too much for him but will shall see. The winner will get a title shot at some point.

UFC 108 is looking sick...but with all these fighters getting injured as of late...you never know.

It also looks like Lesnar might not be able to fight on the 108 card. He's still suffering from cock-chest-itus.

Winner gets title shot if it happens Tough fight for Velasquez

Hopefully this happens

Takamura Bear · 11-06-2009, 02:45 AM

I'm not the biggest Rampage fan anymore but, regardless, this had me fucking rolling (from the latest tuf ep).

Dert McGert · 11-07-2009, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Takamura Bear

I'm not the biggest Rampage fan anymore but, regardless, this had me fucking rolling (from the latest tuf ep).

Poor Rampage, must have forgotten what he looked like after him/Wandy 2.

GeezusDylan160 · 11-07-2009, 08:42 PM

Strikeforce: Fedor/Rogers tonight on CBS, what'd ya guys think? I gots....

Fedor by Kimura in the first round....everyone says armbar for fedor but just to be different I think a kimura would be nice....just Fedor by submission really quickly.

Jake Shields by Unanimous Decision. Love Jake Shields mann, both him and Mayhem are super ready for this fight, both are extremely focused and this WILL be FOTN. This one could go either way but I feel like it's Shields time to shine.

Gegard Mousasi by KO in the first round. Never liked Soko, never will. Gegard is to strong and crisp for Soko.

the only one i can't decide on is Antonio Silva/Fabricio Werdum fight. Antonio has KO power big time and Werdum is a submission ace. This one can go either way but...Silva 2nd round KO

Dert McGert · 11-07-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GeezusDylan160

Strikeforce: Fedor/Rogers tonight on CBS, what'd ya guys think? I gots....

Fedor by Kimura in the first round....everyone says armbar for fedor but just to be different I think a kimura would be nice....just Fedor by submission really quickly.

Jake Shields by Unanimous Decision. Love Jake Shields mann, both him and Mayhem are super ready for this fight, both are extremely focused and this WILL be FOTN. This one could go either way but I feel like it's Shields time to shine.

Gegard Mousasi by KO in the first round. Never liked Soko, never will. Gegard is to strong and crisp for Soko.

the only one i can't decide on is Antonio Silva/Fabricio Werdum fight. Antonio has KO power big time and Werdum is a submission ace. This one can go either way but...Silva 2nd round KO

I am honestly on the fence with Rogers/Fedor. I know it's Fedor, but Roger's only needs to land one punch flush. Fujita caught Fedor and hurt him, but didn't stop him. Roger's has a hell of a lot more power behind his punches than Fujita.

I see Mousasi subbing Soko. Soko should just stay in Dream and rack up some wins over nothing big, but this would be after Minowa heelhooks him in the finals of the Super Hulk Tourney.

GeezusDylan160 · 11-07-2009, 11:50 PM

I used to feel the same way Dert until about a week ago I sat down and thought it through a little more. Fedor has fought way better strikers in his career then Brett Rogers, I believe Rogers has been hyped up to be this KO monster so he seems worthy of Fedor. Yeah he's strong but has NO ground game apparently. He brought in several high level grapplers to help him prepare for this bout and faired very poorly apparently. Think of him as a bigger and blacker Kimbo Slice. Fedor has fought strikers like Arlovski (Rogers did knock him out so we can scratch him off the list), Tim Sylvia (not that big), a prime Mirko Cro Cop and Big Nog X 3. As you pointed out Fujita rocked Fedor and Fedor still managed to finish him. Then you can look at that Kevin Randleman suplex where fedor landed on his head and still managed to finish the fight. All things point to Fedor using his grappling abilities towards a win here, even if Rogers rocks the hell out of him. But hey, this is MMA and anything can happen.

Also they're showing a preview of the new EA Sports MMA game tonight and just announced....K-Sos/Stephan Bonnar and Ben Rothwell/Mirko at 110. Also since Todd Duffee is injured he isn;t fighting Paul Buentello at UFC 107...instead Heath Herring will step back into the octagon for the first time in a year and a half I believe.

Dert McGert · 11-08-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GeezusDylan160

I used to feel the same way Dert until about a week ago I sat down and thought it through a little more. Fedor has fought way better strikers in his career then Brett Rogers, I believe Rogers has been hyped up to be this KO monster so he seems worthy of Fedor. Yeah he's strong but has NO ground game apparently. He brought in several high level grapplers to help him prepare for this bout and faired very poorly apparently. Think of him as a bigger and blacker Kimbo Slice. Fedor has fought strikers like Arlovski (Rogers did knock him out so we can scratch him off the list), Tim Sylvia (not that big), a prime Mirko Cro Cop and Big Nog X 3. As you pointed out Fujita rocked Fedor and Fedor still managed to finish him. Then you can look at that Kevin Randleman suplex where fedor landed on his head and still managed to finish the fight. All things point to Fedor using his grappling abilities towards a win here, even if Rogers rocks the hell out of him. But hey, this is MMA and anything can happen.

Also they're showing a preview of the new EA Sports MMA game tonight and just announced....K-Sos/Stephan Bonnar and Ben Rothwell/Mirko at 110. Also since Todd Duffee is injured he isn;t fighting Paul Buentello at UFC 107...instead Heath Herring will step back into the octagon for the first time in a year and a half I believe.

I know what you are saying about Fedor, he has fought some of the better strikers in MMA and have stopped them. Rogers has practically no ground game, well, we haven't got to see it at all, but Fedor will have the huge advantage on the ground anyways. I'm just going to say that if Roger's does win, I wouldn't be suprised. If he comes out explosive like he did against AA, then Roger's could get a ref stoppage.

If Herring is coming back at 107, then fuck yes. Herring needs a win and hopefully he is coming in at 100%. I'm a huge Herring fan and hope he can continue in the UFC.

Takamura Bear · 11-08-2009, 02:13 AM

The only thing I question abut Fedor right now is...has he trained to adapt to the octagon? Will he have problems fighting in the cage compared to fighting in the ring, which he's fought in his entire career? There is quite a big difference.

Thats the only thing I worry about. I mean whats stopping Rogers from using his size advantage and pushing Fedor against the cage and just hammer him with shots for three rounds. I think Rogers can win (just) if he uses a superb game plan.

It probably won't happen, but everyone knows what happens when a big, black man causes an upset.

Dert McGert · 11-08-2009, 04:49 AM

Every time Fedor fights, I just fear that he is going to lose. Tonight had its moments, but once again all is well.

Rutger 44 · 11-08-2009, 05:14 AM

Though "the cage question" rears its ugly head. Brett hold him almost a good minute with back to the fence. But all's well that ends well. : )

Takamura Bear · 11-08-2009, 06:04 AM

Holy shit that was an exciting fight. I think Fedor is going to be big in the US. Amazing fighter.

But I want to talk about how he would do against Brock. (even though the fight will never happen)

Brett was powering out of Fedor's subs, which is what most people would label as Brock's biggest disadvantage against Fedro.

Also, Brock's wrestling & GNP > Roger's by a long shot.

So, keeping in mind what I just said...honestly, how would Fedor do against Brock?

Rutger 44 · 11-08-2009, 06:47 AM

I think it's a question of faith.

Some people believes Brock will be able to solve Fedor's hands speed and control him on the ground, some don't.

One thing I'm sure such fight won't go full 5 rounds.

GeezusDylan160 · 11-08-2009, 03:24 PM

I probably woke up my entire neighbourhood with my "OH SHIT!" after Fedor landed that monstrous right hand. A very good fight and a very good way to start Fedor off in Strikeforce. I felt like the first round was just him having a slow start and the second round is when he really let loose. imo Rogers won that first round and scard me shitless when he started dropping those bombs for GnP before Fedor missed the armbar. Those were BIG shots. But the great one reigned supreme and definitely sent a huge message to the rest of the HW fighters in the world with that KO over Brett Rogers. I like the question Taka and honestly after last night I'm still not sure who would win. Lesnar has improved in leaps and bounds but Fedor is one of, if not, the best fighter in the world. Lesnar is definitely a more dominate fighter then Rogers and would present a greater challenge but Lesnar seems to lack in the boxing department, not enough footwork or head movement....his striking is to basic to be fighting the level of competition he's facing. So if Fedor fought Lesnar, I think he would (T)KO him because Lesnar has shown he's learned to defend against those submissions and how to control positions better ala Lesnar/Mir 2. If he can get passed Carwin, a dream match up of Lesnar/Fedor becomes even more interesting.

On a side note.....WOOOOO JAKE SHIELDS BABY! He wasn't amazing but his grappling last night was spot on, Miller was really impressive last night as well. Great scrap. Anyone else hear during the broadcast? Scott Smith vs. Cung Le this Decemeber

, Cung Le by decapitating head kick

PerpetualHeaven · 11-08-2009, 09:56 PM

First, big ups to Gegard. I love that guy. He wins in his usual fashion.

As for Fedor vs. Lesnar, I think Fedor is the best technical heavyweight in the world right now. That aside, the only person who can beat Brock Lesnar is someone who is Brock's size. That loss to Mir was a fluke. He could have got out of that easily but he was scared. I'm the guy who believes any size opponent can win, but honestly, Lesnar is pure size and power. He's too big. Sometimes size is all that matters. Throw his ass down and pound away.

Regardless, I think Fedor would win because he's Fedor. He pulls magic tricks. If the fight stays standing, Fedor would win. Now if it goes on the ground, I'm scared. Look at Mir. Mir has an awesome ground game and he got worked. I'll always give Fedor a nod, but Lesnar is probably unbeatable by people smaller than him. I'd give Lashley and Carwin the thumbs up to win.

Also, I thought Antonio Silva was going to beat Werdum in dominate fashion. That was unfortunate he lost. Hopefully he bounces back from all of this. He's a great fighter.

91GSX · 11-08-2009, 10:36 PM

I finally realize why everyone hates on Frank Shamrock as a commentator. He's horrible!

Takamura Bear · 11-09-2009, 01:17 AM

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I finally realize why everyone hates on Frank Shamrock as a commentator. He's horrible!

You should listen to Frank Mir during WEC events...

GeezusDylan160 · 11-09-2009, 05:36 AM

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You should listen to Frank Mir during WEC events...

Amen to that lol

91GSX · 11-09-2009, 05:58 AM

ha! I have. My friends haven't heard Shamrock commentating before were complaining about how useless he was.

Dude: What would you score that round?
Shamrock: I have no idea!

wtf?

Gackt · 11-09-2009, 04:13 PM

At the beginning of TUF 10 I liked Rampage and hated Rashad, and now it is completely the opposite. Rashad actually appears to care about training his fighters and Rampage is just an idiot acting the way he does, and the name calling to Darrill Schoonover who I think could knock rampage out lol

GeezusDylan160 · 11-11-2009, 01:31 AM

Mark it down boys, Heath Herring isn't coming back for UFC 107. Instead we will see Paul Buentello take on Stefan Struve. I like Struve in this one. Both are really experienced guys but Struve's gargantuan size mixed with his grappling abilities is just scary. The guy is 6'11"....easily the tallest fighter I've ever seen and yeah while he did get worked by Dos Santos, he's come back with two submission wins showcasing how well he uses his long limbs and reach to his advantage. Buentello is very experienced as well and only loses to the best but still....Struve by rear naked choke (he really likes his chokes

) in the 2nd round.

Takamura Bear · 11-11-2009, 04:38 AM

Marquardt vs. Sonnen at UFC 110
http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/11/...quardt_sonnen/#

I'm not really feeling this one. I wish Hendo would stop pissing around and fight Nate.

Also, there is a rumor floating about that Matt "hillbilly" Hughes (oh I went there) is scheduled to fight on the 109 card. Against who remains to be seen.

GeezusDylan160 · 11-11-2009, 08:17 PM

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Marquardt vs. Sonnen at UFC 110
http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/11/...quardt_sonnen/#

I'm not really feeling this one. I wish Hendo would stop pissing around and fight Nate.

Also, there is a rumor floating about that Matt "hillbilly" Hughes (oh I went there) is scheduled to fight on the 109 card. Against who remains to be seen.

I heard that Renzo Gracie was looking to make his UFC debut against Hughes awhile back....maybe that will happen now? The guy is already early 40's so he'd better hurry up if he did sign with the UFC :P

Marquardt should beat Sonnen, Sonnen is solid but Nate 2.0 is on a warpath right now.

Adam Miller · 11-12-2009, 12:30 AM

Hanging out with Dana today... be sure to catch me on the blog. Got some more tickets too if anyone in the area?