You make good points about both Treyarch and IW. They do both have their own special flavor with their games. Unfortunately, Activision is more concerned with putting out a new game every year instead building a top notch game that they can support for 2 years via great content download. I personally prefer the people who play and the style of play that BF offers, but odds are that I will pick up MW3 to play occasionally when I need a fix of kicking peoples ass in a high paced MP online.

I def think the vest thing is dumb. pretty much bringing Juggs back to an extent. I will say this. IW games run VERY smooth and play better and treyarch is more fair and fun. that my opinion though. wish they would both get together and make one game

The streaks look a bit ridiculous, and even though the Support Streaks won't stack up to a lot of kills for the person getting them, it will greatly tip the scales in favor of the team that the person is getting the Support Streaks for.

http://www.mw3elite.com/2011/mw3-kil...packages-list/

The Specialist Streaks giving a single person 6 perks.... imagine if that person has all Pro Perks and they get to use 6 of them... That person essentially becomes a Juggernaut.

i haven't really thought about that. Most of the support streaks dont do much though do they? I think its dumb to get a Jugg. even if it is defensive, for just playing pretty much

I'm still a bit worried, but seriously, what are the alternatives? I will most likely pick up MW3 as well because I'd like to play the campaign, but as far as online MP is concerned there are only 2 real possibilities. I'm just hoping that BF3 is the one I like best because the new killstreak/perks system in place with MW3 looks like it rewards players for EVERYTHING and you know it's going to be complete chaos.

I'm still pretty damn worried about BF3

I'm going to keep my pre-order active until I make my decision, but odds are that I will rent the game before I make my final decision. I quit playing games back in February and I would be highly displeased if the first game that I dropped $60 on wasn't what I expected. In the meantime, I'm going to give the "beta" a chance and maybe it will grow on me. I don't know why, but I simply don't like the feel of the game.

You end up cancelling your BF3 order?

If you block someone, they don't show up at all. I think that it says something like "This message cannot be displayed because user is blocked."

when you block them do they not show up in forum threads too?