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IMportdreams95
09-17-2006, 12:53 AM
well, today i got a message from mr. ERRRRRTON! and figured we would start a UFC Thread. so here it is. let talks about any and everything about this wonderful sport.

To me this is the best "sport" in the world. It takes so much drive and determination. Im sure those fighters minds are moving a mile a minute. As a huge Bruce Lee Fan, i have loved martial arts since i was a kid. This isn't martial arts as far as smashing bricks etc. But MMA is simply beautiful to watch. On the ground there is nothing better then Gracie Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geur4emQxF3yIAuRJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1cHVjbGZ sBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANERjA1X zc-/SIG=1139hlkis/EXP=1158539934/**http%3a//bjj.org/). It would be amazing to be trained by the best in this sport. Other then Gracie Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geur4emQxF3yIAuRJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1cHVjbGZ sBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANERjA1X zc-/SIG=1139hlkis/EXP=1158539934/**http%3a//bjj.org/), MoiTie Boxing is spectacular.

So those are some of my favorite "martial" arts now onto fighters.

My favorite all time fighter is..., thats right you guessed it, Royce Gracie.this man has faught since its early days. Back before Dana White (owner of ufc) bought the UFC and changed some of the rules it was pretty much a knock down drag out bar fight. "Survival of the fittest". there was head butting,no gloves, could knee on the ground etc. anything goes! most of the time they fought 3 times a night to find the champion. Dana has made the sport so much better now it actually takes skill to win. IMO its a big ass chess game with your fist,legs, and knees. your chin as the King. anyways that went a little offtopic im sorry. No one in the UFC that hits harder then Chuck Liddell. No one is a better all around fighter then Matt Hughes.

Well there you have it. UFC to me in a "Nutshell", a very big one :p i would love to hear anything you have to say about the UFC good or bad. favorite fighter. favorite fight etc.

xfrancox
09-17-2006, 07:28 AM
There is a Gracie school close to me, I was gonna go but Im poor. I love UFC and might start training when I move back home. I dont know though, not sure if I like UFC or Pride more. Both are awesome.

IMportdreams95
09-17-2006, 02:06 PM
There is a Gracie school close to me, I was gonna go but Im poor. I love UFC and might start training when I move back home. I dont know though, not sure if I like UFC or Pride more. Both are awesome.

Thats really cool man.. you should start training even if you dont make it to the UFC of it takes you a couple years. there are alot of cage fighting events out there now. i was going to train with my buddy., but i dont have time i have a woman, a son, and an xbox 360:woop: but i guess i should take my own advice. even if i train and dont do anything with it at least i can have fun., and learn cool submission moves:uzi: :eek:

Blind Fool
09-17-2006, 02:24 PM
I used to do a lot of martial arts back in the day and the Gracies came and did a training session with out dojo which was amazing, especially seeing my Sensei against the younger gracie (sorry can't remember his name, was years ago now).

Tron
09-17-2006, 09:59 PM
forrest griffin is my favorite..the guy is fucking hilarious on top of beinga bad ass..plus he is from OH...

when is the ortiz shamrock match... i beat ken gets the snot kicked out him...

you think penn is going to have a prayer versuses hughes the second time around?

IMportdreams95
09-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Is anyone getting UFC 63 tonight?
i know i am! and Erton i dont think Penn has a prayer tonight, not sure if it will get out of the 2nd round. hughes is the baddest mofo there is in his weight class., that man is a monster and no one can stop him.

Flea
09-25-2006, 12:53 AM
Wow Hughes did crap the 1st 2 rounds,
Still scored the win.

Reluctant Stool
10-05-2006, 07:01 AM
Been watching UFC and Pride for many years now. Watched K-1 for a little while but it's just not as exciting as MMA.

I'm not sure if anyone shares the same view but I don't have any favourite fighters. I just appreciate a good match whoever wins.

Even though it's a large impossibility I'm still hoping for a Chuck Lidell Vs Wanderlei Silva match-up. Make it happen Dana!!!

xfrancox
10-05-2006, 07:27 AM
Id like to see anyone in the UFC to go against Fedor Emelianenko. That man is a beast. 23 and 1, thats only due to a cut.

Fedor Emelianenko
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3398283118407687720&q=Fedor+Emelianenko

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8055308976260561043&q=Fedor+Emelianenko


Another of my favorite fighters is Mike Zambidis
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5256184563918766029&q=mike+zambidis

IMportdreams95
10-05-2006, 01:22 PM
Been watching UFC and Pride for many years now. Watched K-1 for a little while but it's just not as exciting as MMA.

I'm not sure if anyone shares the same view but I don't have any favourite fighters. I just appreciate a good match whoever wins.

Even though it's a large impossibility I'm still hoping for a Chuck Lidell Vs Wanderlei Silva match-up. Make it happen Dana!!!

After UFC 61, when Tito and Ken fought for the 2nd time. Dana steped in the ring and brought out Chuck Liddell. Told him who his next fight would be and that is Wanderlei Silva. So be on the look out that should happen real soon.

Tron
10-05-2006, 02:54 PM
make sure you send me a message when they release the date.

IMportdreams95
10-05-2006, 05:51 PM
Not a problem, i can't wait for Liddell to knock his ass out!

Tron
10-05-2006, 06:41 PM
over/under on how long he will last should be 1 minute 30 seconds...

Reluctant Stool
10-06-2006, 07:24 AM
Got this - http://www.fightersonlymag.com/news.aspx

Says the Silva/Liddell fight is on but then in the magazine itself it says that due to contracts etc. the fight is off.

I'm sure both fighters are willing to get going but being held by contracts and what not just seems to be flipping the bird to the fans.

Let's not forget that there was a big fuss over Coutoure fighting Silva back when he was Light Heavyweight champion. I hope they won't drag this out until one of these fighters retires like Randy.

IMportdreams95
10-06-2006, 02:08 PM
Got this - http://www.fightersonlymag.com/news.aspx

Says the Silva/Liddell fight is on but then in the magazine itself it says that due to contracts etc. the fight is off.

I'm sure both fighters are willing to get going but being held by contracts and what not just seems to be flipping the bird to the fans.

Let's not forget that there was a big fuss over Coutoure fighting Silva back when he was Light Heavyweight champion. I hope they won't drag this out until one of these fighters retires like Randy.

I agree , either shit or get off the pot.

Reluctant Stool
10-06-2006, 10:15 PM
4 days until Ortiz/Shamrock. Just a reminder.:)

I didn't even see anything wrong with the last one. The ref made a good call, Shamrock was not defending intelligently.

And I'm seriously impressed with Tito's new attitude. His coaching amd support in TUF 3 was second to none.

IMportdreams95
10-06-2006, 11:57 PM
4 days until Ortiz/Shamrock. Just a reminder.:)

I didn't even see anything wrong with the last one. The ref made a good call, Shamrock was not defending intelligently.

And I'm seriously impressed with Tito's new attitude. His coaching amd support in TUF 3 was second to none.

I disagree, i believe the Ref stopped just a tad early. I mean they knew it was going to be a battle to begin with. just b/c ken got hit with a few good shots without blocking doesn't mean anything. tito is just fast so he hit him a few times before he could defend. If you look back at UFC 40 in 2002, you will see Ken took more pounding then this time.. Something was up. Anyhoo i cant wait for this fight. should be good... who is everyone going for?

im going to pick tito, but i really wish ken could pull it off

Tron
10-07-2006, 12:03 PM
its not pay per view though right?

Reluctant Stool
10-07-2006, 07:09 PM
its not pay per view though right?


That's correct. Dana White felt fans were a little dissapointed by the last fight so it's free.

IMportdreams95
10-10-2006, 04:21 PM
Just a reminder again,UFC fight night is on tonight. Spike TV 8:00pm Est. Time. here is the card, and my predictions.

Tito Ortiz Vs. Ken Shamrock =
Ken Shamrock( i would just really like to see him win, not sure tho)

Kendall Grove Vs. Chris Price
Kendall Grove - He's a maniac.

Ed Herman Vs. Jason MacDonald
Jason MacDonald - wasn't to impressed with Ed, in UF 3

Seth Petruzelli Vs. Matt Hamill
Matt Hamill - Are serious.... is this really going to be a fight.. first round tapout.

Nate Marquardt Vs. Crafton Wallace
Nate Marquardt - his striking impressed me.

Tony DeSouza Vs. Dustin Hazelett
I'll go with the veteran Tony DeSouza.

Rory Singer Vs. Josh Haynes
I disliked both guys on UF3 i just hope someone gets knocked out.

Thiago Alves Vs. John Alessio
Both good strikers, im taking Thiago Alves.

Marcus Davis Vs. Forrest Petz
Im going with "The Irish Hand Gernade" Marcus Davis,. should have won his last fight againt Melvin., But ah well..


Thoughts, Opinions?

xfrancox
10-11-2006, 05:24 AM
I really wish Ortiz would have lost. Oh well, he won fair and square and Shamrock agrees. It was cool to see them put it all to rest though.

IMportdreams95
10-11-2006, 01:09 PM
yeah i had a feeling that tito was going to win, but since i would have liked shamrock win i picked him. it wa a tuff decision to pick between kendal grove and chris price. As i have watch chris price fight in the amature league alot. since he is from where im from i would have liked to see him win., but fighting aganist kendall, doubtful like you seen last night.

Anyways, Chris Price is a pretty good fighter. Like i said i've watched him fight over and over. He is in the same training camp as one of my good Buddies. Tristan Yunker. Tristan should be on his way soon as there are so many people around him going. i.e Chris Price., Clayton Guida(who makes his debut on UFC 64). Tristan fought Clay at King of the cage ppv. Clay was on a 16-0 win streak, and Tristan beat him in the first round (1:17) to be precise. So be on the look out of my buddy Tristan and more fighters coming out of Indianapolis, In.. WOOT WOOT!

Reluctant Stool
10-12-2006, 05:09 PM
I'll have to admit I really wasn't impressed with Matt Hamill's performance. He REALLY needs to start working on his stand up. Someone is going to take advantage of his constant takedown attempts. Yes he's an excelllent wrestler with tremendous power but what will he do against another seasoned grappler?

Ice Hunter
10-12-2006, 07:19 PM
I agree ufc is the best sport out there.. As much as I like football it is better I think. How about Chuck Tito in dec?? If he cant fight silva i think this is the best fight they could put out there right now. Tito is on a tear even though I think if forrest had 1 more round he would of beat him. Chuck should beat him pretty good but it will have a great build and should be fun to watch. Im starting gracie jiu-jitsu next week which will be sweet, a place just opened in my home town so im looking foward to it. And they just had a strikeforce fight here and the main event was tank abbot v paul buentelio. Cage fighting is better than i thought live. I got to meet Forest griffin and mike swick and jason von flu and some other not so known fighters. I cant believe i meat forrest hes prob my fav fighter. Hes just like he is on t.v. and I dont know if anyone knew who swick was but he was just chillin with his super hot gf so i got a pic with him and actually talked to him for a few mins it was great. I have the pics here http://www.myspace.com/goose4 If tito v chuck is in cali im going.

IMportdreams95
10-12-2006, 11:06 PM
I agree ufc is the best sport out there.. As much as I like football it is better I think. How about Chuck Tito in dec?? If he cant fight silva i think this is the best fight they could put out there right now. Tito is on a tear even though I think if forrest had 1 more round he would of beat him. Chuck should beat him pretty good but it will have a great build and should be fun to watch. Im starting gracie jiu-jitsu next week which will be sweet, a place just opened in my home town so im looking foward to it. And they just had a strikeforce fight here and the main event was tank abbot v paul buentelio. Cage fighting is better than i thought live. I got to meet Forest griffin and mike swick and jason von flu and some other not so known fighters. I cant believe i meat forrest hes prob my fav fighter. Hes just like he is on t.v. and I dont know if anyone knew who swick was but he was just chillin with his super hot gf so i got a pic with him and actually talked to him for a few mins it was great. I have the pics here http://www.myspace.com/goose4 If tito v chuck is in cali im going.

First of all, Webb can i get a sticky on this thread?? Please:p

Anyhoo, the Liddell vs Tito will most likely be in Las Veas like all their PPV. yes i know who Forrest, Quick Swick and Von flu are.. i really dislike von flu but Quick swick has a outstanding career ahead of him. As for Forrest we already know he will be champ someday.

Back to Tito and Chuck, im not exactly sure who will win that fight. IMP chuck is kinda slacking hes getting more and more out of shape it seeems. Tito on the other hand looks to be more determined and focused. I hope somebody gets knocked out!

Ice Hunter
10-13-2006, 03:45 AM
All of the ufc fights or tito and chuck fights?? Tito already had a fight in cali and i believe the last 3 out of 5 ufc ppvs have been in cali and if im not mistaken the next one with franklin or maybe its the matt v gsp one but one of thoes is in the captial of cali at arco arena so id say its 50-50 to where its at. I mean there biggest fight of the year at the stapple center? sold out easy and thats a lot more money for them then vegas. for ticket sales anyway, but i guess we will have to wait and see

IMportdreams95
10-13-2006, 04:27 AM
Ufc 64. unstopable is in Las, Vegas
3950 Las Vegas Blvd South
Las Vegas Nevada
Losacted Between Hacienda And Russell Rd
On The Las Vegas "Strip...

UFc 65 is in Sacramento at arco arena( my dad lives in Elk Grove ) that would be cool to fly out there and watch.

our right, they are mostly converting to Cali. most of their fights used to be in Las Vegas. Now they are spliting them up.

Reluctant Stool
10-13-2006, 06:28 AM
I have to say that I'm not looking forward to the Tito/Lidell fight. When will the UFC start maincarding matches that aren't rematches? Although I got all the respect for Chuck I just don't think anyone in the Light Heavyweight category is enough to challenge him.

Which brings me to the Wanderlei story. According to fighters only magazine. Pride president (not gonna bother spelling his name) has stated that Pride are good to go, Silva is ready...anytime. It seems the UFC is stalling. *not exact quotes because I don't have the mag with me*...but you get the idea. While it has been said that Dana White had stated that it was Pride that was evading the matter. Let's just stop fucking around people. Also on a side note that if Silva doesn't want the fight then Mirko Cro Cop will step up instead. Now that right there would be match of the year in my eyes.

And to end I would like to declare my bugbear with the UFC. Not so much the company itself but the "fans" who attend the shows. Why are they booing? It's not boxing and it certainly isn't pro wrestling. What is wrong with these bloodthirsty drunken cavepeople that they can't appreciate a few rounds of technical grappling and groundwork? It sickens me when they get restless when two guys aren't trying to slug it out. And they can stop booing at post-fight interviews. These two athletes deserve every ounce of respect for their months of hard work. Pride fans understand the technical nuances of BJJ. So why can't the US and UK be the same?

Reluctant Stool
10-13-2006, 06:30 AM
Oh and does anyone know if the boxing match between Tito and Dana will be televised?

IMportdreams95
10-13-2006, 12:19 PM
Yes, it's on PPV for like 5-15 bucks, not sure exactly. It will be a cheap PPV. There is no way in hell Tito is going to outbox Dana. Dana was an amature boxer before he took over the UFC. He probably could have went pro. If this was an MMA match he wouldn't last 5 mins. I will put my money on Dana (If you hadn't noticed yet) :p The fight should take place before the end of the year, before Chuck vd Tito in Dec. I'll look for more info and post when i get it.

Onto Liddell, yes he is one hell of a fighter not many men can stand toe to toe with him. Some have. In 2003 (Fight of the year) Liddell VS Pride fighter Rampage. Liddell got his ass whooped. Not alot of people know that b/c it was on *Pride* not the UFC. Liddell is one of my favorite fighters and would like to see him smach tito big fucking head. Oh the other hand we have to be honest with ourselves and who will be the better fighter. We will have to wait and see. Dana lost alot of money(i think i head 250,000) helping Liddell train for the fight/fight cost against Rampage. So maybe Dana doesn't want to go thru that again with Wanderlei?


Onto the UFC fans, I totally agree there is nothing i hate more then to see all these damn celebrities out in the crowd and fans booing. I love the sport of MMA it takes talent and tech. If you don't know what your doing your going to get caught with a triangle,rear naked, camora, ankel lock etc. Thats why you have to be at the top of your game. For fans to boo is pure ignorance. They put the blood,sweat and tears into training for the fight to ENTERTAIN them. So sit back and enjoy the show. I have never been dissapointed in a fight to where i want to boo someone for their performance. Maybe by their attitude (like tito) or their diesrecpect for other fighters. You pay a shit load of money to go and watch the fight and boo? If you can do better get into the octagon yourself and shut up!

Reluctant Stool
10-14-2006, 06:14 AM
Dana lost alot of money(i think i head 250,000) helping Liddell train for the fight/fight cost against Rampage. So maybe Dana doesn't want to go thru that again with Wanderlei?

To be fair on Chuck he had already fought once that evening earning a well deserved knockout on Alistair Overeem. And he just looked so gassed against Jackson. That said Rampage was in no fit state to fight Silva in the final.
I personally think both camps are a bit tenuous about setting the match regulations. Elbows or not? Head stomps and soccer kicks? 3,5 or Pride's 10 minute and 5 minute round? Cage or Ring? Japan or Vegas? If it were in the US then stomps are definately out due to the state comission, as will be seen in the Pride event held in Vegas at the end of the month*. One could go in a fighter's favour and seriously hamper the other's.

*I believe Fedor will walk over Coleman. I don't wanna pick sides because I really like both of them. But can Fedor be beaten?

IMportdreams95
10-14-2006, 01:35 PM
Well there is finally something that i didnt know. I was unaware that chuck fought already that night..**Sratches his head, how could i have not known*:confused: . Anyhoo what do you think aboud the Tito Ortiz vs Dana White Boxing match? Who are you going with? How many rounds? Decision? Knockout? Corner Stopage? Any and everyone what do you think? I've already stated my opinion but here they are again.

Dana Wins, not sure if he can knock him out or not. He should be able to since he is a boxer but who knows. IN the end Dana beats up his employee :woop:

Reluctant Stool
10-14-2006, 05:09 PM
I have no idea how this match will turn out. Whether either of them will take the match seriously. Is it for charity?

I wonder if the bad blood will arise. What with Tito and Dana not exactly seeing eye to eye a few years ago. But if it came down to it I think Dana might eke this out. I have no idea of his boxing credentials but I don't really rate Tito's stand-up as much as his ground and pound.

IMportdreams95
10-14-2006, 08:18 PM
I have no idea how this match will turn out. Whether either of them will take the match seriously. Is it for charity?

I wonder if the bad blood will arise. What with Tito and Dana not exactly seeing eye to eye a few years ago. But if it came down to it I think Dana might eke this out. I have no idea of his boxing credentials but I don't really rate Tito's stand-up as much as his ground and pound.

Like i said in other post. Dana was an amature boxer before he bought the UFC. Dana owned 3 boxing gyms before he got into MMA. I believe he still has them. Here is an interview that i read awhile ago **quote**

"DW: I was considering going pro but I never did and it messed with me for a long time. I think I stopped letting it mess with me when I was about 31 or 32. I really wanted to do it bad, but there is always that fine line of…It takes a lot of heart and a certain type of person to decide “I want to be a pro fighter and I am going to dedicate my life to it.” Because there is always that fear in the back of your head that you are going to wake up and be 33 or 34 when it is over, and have not made it and have nothing. That is why I have so much respect for the guys that do, put it all on the line and go for it and decide that that is what they want to do with their life and give it a shot"

Ice Hunter
10-17-2006, 07:16 PM
No one has said anything about rich getting blown the f*ck up? man i thought that was going to be a good fight and 20 seconds later i was saying "get out of there rich, move" and then broken nose and hes out.. But the light weight fight was great. Anyway I hope swick gets a shot at the belt after the winner of the show does. Who u guys takeing carter or matt in the ultimate fighter come back fight this th? Carter is great on the show by the way makes it fun to watch. "In my kingdome.... There will be blingdome..." lol

IMportdreams95
10-18-2006, 12:52 AM
No one has said anything about rich getting blown the f*ck up? man i thought that was going to be a good fight and 20 seconds later i was saying "get out of there rich, move" and then broken nose and hes out.. But the light weight fight was great. Anyway I hope swick gets a shot at the belt after the winner of the show does. Who u guys takeing carter or matt in the ultimate fighter come back fight this th? Carter is great on the show by the way makes it fun to watch. "In my kingdome.... There will be blingdome..." lol

Matt Sera... he is amazing. I've been a big fan of his for the longest. He was the first american to learn gracie jui jitsu. There is no way carter should have won that fight. Sera was kicking his ass. Carter got lucky with a desperation skinning back fist fucking donkey punch.
:boom Carter

Reluctant Stool
10-18-2006, 09:34 PM
Matt is not only a good fighter but he makes one hell of a corner man. Notice that his is the only voice you can hear.

As for Rich Franklin, I have no idea what he was doing in that fight but he just didn't seem himself. But Silva took advantage or at least it looked like that was his gameplan all along.

IMportdreams95
10-19-2006, 04:23 AM
Yeah Matt is awesome. His UFC record is 3 wins 2 losses *i think* and he actually won his last 2 fights and left, to open a camp and coach. He's got a lot of heart, and seems to be a really nice guy. I hope he wins. I think if he does he may take the belt....maybe

IMportdreams95
11-05-2006, 05:44 AM
For all you Stephen Bonner fans there is an interview in the newest issus od Penthouse. Be sure to check it out.

IMportdreams95
11-10-2006, 05:17 PM
just wanted to remind everyone the the Ultimate Fighter 4 "The Comeback" Season Finale,. is tomorrow Saturday Nov - 11th. at 9:00pm Eastern. It should be a great show. Just wanted to get everyone picks for the fight.

Matt Sera vs Chris Lytle (Championship fight)
for me its hard to pick matt is a great fighter and an awesome coach, but chris is the hometown boy. i just want a good fight, and hopefully they both will get in the UFC again.

Travis Lutter vs Patrick Cote (Championship fight)
this is going to be a great fight. I want to see Patrick cote win. If they stay standing up he should, but if it goes to the ground travis is a master at submissions.

Rich Clementi Vs. Din Thomas
these wont even be a fight Din Thomas is going to whoop his ass. sucks to be Rich.

Edwin Dewees Vs. Jorge Rivera
Edwin Dewees is a weak fighter, he isn't UFC material. Im not exactly sure why he is even there. Obvioulsy i think Jorge Rivera will win.

Jeremy Jackson Vs. Pete Spratt
I dont like either. Pete will probably come away with the decision.

Scott Smith Vs. Pete Sell
Im pretty sure that Pete Sell, which is Matt Sera team mate will come away with the win by way of knockout.

Gideon Ray Vs. Charles McCarthy
Im going to go with Charles, hopefully he stopped eating so much and started training.

Thales Leites Vs. Martin Kampmann
i have never heard of these guys, i hope someone gets knocked out~!

Reluctant Stool
11-26-2006, 01:33 AM
Totally forgot about this thread.

Big congratulations to GSP for showing how to decimate an opponent. He picked Hughes apart and the poor country boy looked a little lost in the octagon. Shame for Matt's reign to finish but well done to George.

PerpetualHeaven
11-26-2006, 05:12 AM
No talent from around the world that's the problem with UFC.
They bring in Anderson Silva and he knocks out 2 of their best fighters in the first round. What does that say? They need to bring more people from different places to fight for them. Sure North Americans are great fighters, but pitting guys like Liddell and Ortiz against some great PRIDE fighters would be nice to see if they're the real deal.
Anderson Silva is an exciting fighter. He won't give you a long fight, but he'll give you some nice striking probably the best in the UFC.

IMportdreams95
11-26-2006, 03:37 PM
Totally forgot about this thread.

Big congratulations to GSP for showing how to decimate an opponent. He picked Hughes apart and the poor country boy looked a little lost in the octagon. Shame for Matt's reign to finish but well done to George.

I was so happy! when GSP won. I just couldn't stand matt's attitude anymore. He was getting on my nerves. I was really hoping that Jeff M. was going to beat Tim. But ah well. they were both good fights, and i cant wait to see liddell vs ortiz 2!!

Voodu
11-27-2006, 11:41 AM
Matt Hughes FTW!

Oh wait...

:(

Reluctant Stool
11-28-2006, 12:43 AM
Anyone know if the Tito/Dana boxing match went ahead after all?

In reply to Perpetualheaven - I don't see the UFC bringing in foreign talent. The fans never seem to adjust. Much like as it was discussed in an earlier post - fans will chant USA and so forth. Why? This isn't wrestling. Patriotism will not win the fight.
I'm afraid that *for example* Asian fighters will never be popular there. Simply for the reason that they're not homegrown. I'm still wondering how well received Michael Bisping will be.

Kaens
11-28-2006, 02:08 AM
UFC bring plenty of non Americans in. Sure let's just throw out Canada and say that's all North America. Every Japanese guy they bring in either looks lost in the hype or just get plain destroyed. They bring in lots of Europeans and there are constantly Brazilians. I guess everyone just sees a white guy and assumes he's from America. Just this UFC 65 we had Holland, Brazil, Japan, and Italy. And this wasn't even a particularly diverse card.

Everyone needs to get off the Pride vs UFC crap. Either you like the sport of mma or you don't. Pride, UFC, TKO, K-1 they are all just promoters. Who cares about the damn promoter, it's about the fighters and the sport. If you think either of them is superior you are just another fanboy.

I host parties at my house for every single UFC and Pride event. None of you are invited btw.. well I guess that depends on who's reading.. some of you might be coming over. Hell at the end of Dec I have friends flying in from over 1200 miles to spend the weekend for the UFC/Pride weekend at the end of the year. Good times. And it won't be full of an talk about which organization is better, it will be about which fighter is better.

So on that topic, my thoughts about some of the fights mentioned here..

Silva/Franklin - total letdown, Franklin embarassed himself and he looked scared going in.

Silva/Leban - Leban's a tool the UFC is trying to "promote". Just because they put him out there doesn't make him any good. That was his first time on the ppv and first test.. I've never liked that guy

Silvia/Monson - lol, I'm no Silvia fan because he looks terribly awkward but if you think a that hulking midget had any chance I'd be happy to take your money along with everyone else's I took last weekend.

Hughes/GSP - disappointing for me because I love Matt, but I like GSP too. It's good to see a guy that is so dedicated and so hungry get what he wants. I'm sure it won't be long before everyone is tearing him down too. Hughes reign was so long I was scared to death every time he stepped into the ring because I don't know what could be driving him. And this is mma, where no one wins all the time. Matt's got nothing to be ashamed of, his record is just ridiculous.

Silvia/anyone in Pride - I think Cro cop would destroy him because Tim's weakness is the leg kicks not the ground imo. Arlovski should have never abandoned the leg kicks in their last fight. Silvia has a great sprawl and showed last weekend that he's got a decent guard too. Barnett or Nogueira would probably take him on the ground, but I can see them getting stuck in a standup game and I think they'd lose if it stayed up there. Fedor would kill anyone until someone proves otherwise.

Nodogg
12-03-2006, 08:16 PM
Keep an eye out for Imports boy Tristan "The Tarantula" Yunker. He maybe on the newest season of Ultimate Fighter!

graemelunn
12-07-2006, 01:56 PM
Great threadnguys on the fastest growing sport in the world. Congrats to GSP for a well deserved win over Matt Hughes.
Would love to see a two-PPV supercard giving us some of the dream matches between UFC & Pride talent. Here's my concept, a PPV would be staged in both USA & Japan, months apart to allow training and recuperation time. In the US, fights to be contested under UFC rules, in Japan under PRIDE rules. Any eventual rubber matches could be held in either country with rules determined and venue determined by a coin toss, with the undercard supported by both promoters. Now wouldn't that be great!?!

Cant wait for Michael "The Count" Bisping's official UFC debut.

IMportdreams95
12-29-2006, 05:46 PM
Well once again im here posting in my wonderful thread that noone else post in. lol. So UFC 66 is tomorrow night. Just wondered who was going to watch it and their thoughts. You all know that im going to get it, Nodogg will be coming over along with an Artist on my Record Lable Chamber. Lots of food, beer and me donkey punching nodogg will be going on.

Here is the Card, and my picks.

Anthony Perosh Vs. Christian Wellisch
Both guys got knocked out in the first round in less then 3 mins during their last fight. Im going to go with Anthony "The Hippo" Perosh.

Yushin Okami Vs. Rory Singer
I absolutely hate Rory Singer, i don't think hes all that good of a fighter, let alone deserve to be in the UFC. Yushin Okami puts him down in the 2nd round.

Carmelo Marrero Vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Man im so excited to watch Gabriel fight again. His last two fights were impressive, Look for Carmelo to get knocked out early.

Tony DeSouza Vs. Thiago Alves
Probably going to be the most biring fight of the night. Tony DeSouza wins by decision.

Eric Schafer Vs. Michael Bisping
Eric doesn't have a chance aganist THE best fighter the UK has to offer. Michael Bisping is one of the best fighters i've seen in the last few years. he displayed heart and determination in the Ultimate Fighter. Michael Bisping wins by Knockout.

Jason MacDonald Vs. Chris Leben
With his very impressive win over Ed Herman, Jason will show in his 2nd fight in the UFC that he belongs here. Chris Leben is a great fighter dont get me wrong, but i like Jason's style. No way does Leben win.

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Marcio Cruz
I feel so bad for Marcio Cruz, absolutely no way is he going to beat Arlovski. Arlovski is a machine, and is going to knock Marcio Cruz out in the 2nd round.

Keith Jardine Vs. Forrest Griffin
There isn't anyone "none champion" that can go toe to toe with Forrest. Yes he lost to Tito Ortiz in a decision, but i think that was BS. Forrest wins, and wins big.

Chuck Liddell Vs. Tito Ortiz
OH BOY OH BOY! I can not wait for this fight. The thing is i like both of these guys alot. I used to HATE Tito as much as i hate the New York Yankees, but watching him coach the Ultimate Fighter, i gained alot of respect for him. They both have knock out power and good chins. Tito is very hungry at the moment, but Liddell is always ready to fight. Honestly i don't care who wins, i just want to see a great fight, which i believe we will!

IMportdreams95
12-29-2006, 05:57 PM
UFC 66 Ortiz Vs. Liddell 2. Here is a clip to get everyone hype!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=user&v=VyfdjpxFVAE

graemelunn
12-29-2006, 09:01 PM
Hopes for UFC 66 -
1) To see Rory Singer get pwned!!! Hate that guy!
2) To see "The Count" win in dominant fashion with a flying knee, round 1 knockout.
3) For Chuck & Tito to go the distance (Dont think so somehow - u?)

graemelunn
12-29-2006, 10:35 PM
PRE-FIGHT PRESS CONFERENCE
Now THIS made me excited - how chilled out is Chuck? There's gonna be bombs-a-flyin !!
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=4068

IMportdreams95
12-29-2006, 10:40 PM
yeah i seen that video, man i can not wait until tomorrow. I love both of these guys, either is a good champ. Its going to take alot to knock out Chuck and take his belt, then again its going to take alot to put out that fire Tito has had his last 5 fights!

graemelunn
12-29-2006, 11:19 PM
Are the fans in the US ready? (Yes but paying for it)
Are the fans in the UK ready? (Yes and its free)
LETS GET IT ON !

PerpetualHeaven
12-30-2006, 12:45 AM
I saw the wanderlei talk.
Dude Silva would cream Iceman. Sorry but Silva is one of the best fighters to grace the ring. This guy is mean very very mean.
I mean look at this loses most of them were crap. Really really bad desicions made. Silva won almost all of them especialy against Tito. Only person who knocked him out was Mariano (never saw that fight), Vitor Belfort (who's AMAZING), and Cro Cop.
Cro Cop would bust Icemans buttocks too. Silva and Cro Cop are such agile strong men. They're a lot more flexible and quicker with maybe equal or higher strength.

PerpetualHeaven
12-30-2006, 12:46 AM
Hopes for UFC 66 -
1) To see Rory Singer get pwned!!! Hate that guy!
2) To see "The Count" win in dominant fashion with a flying knee, round 1 knockout.
3) For Chuck & Tito to go the distance (Dont think so somehow - u?)

Singer FTW!!!

IMportdreams95
12-30-2006, 04:48 AM
Singer FTW!!!

OMG! you like Rory Singer. he is a complete douche bag. He was a fucking bitch on Ultimate Figher. Crying over the house being a mess, HELLO there is 16 guys here what do you expect. lol rorys a bitch. You disapoint me PERPETUAL!!! lol :p

PerpetualHeaven
12-30-2006, 05:09 AM
OMG! you like Rory Singer. he is a complete douche bag. He was a fucking bitch on Ultimate Figher. Crying over the house being a mess, HELLO there is 16 guys here what do you expect. lol rorys a bitch. You disapoint me PERPETUAL!!! lol :p

Everyone hates him that's why i'm cheering for him. Those guys were assholes to him man. I want him to rape so bad!! They called him the Diego Sanchez of the show!! Or was it someone else.. i'm pretty sure it was him.

IMportdreams95
12-30-2006, 05:15 AM
Everyone hates him that's why i'm cheering for him. Those guys were assholes to him man. I want him to rape so bad!! They called him the Diego Sanchez of the show!! Or was it someone else.. i'm pretty sure it was him.

I don't like him because he isn't that good of a fighter IMO. he got lucky on UF with the knee. He threw a kick and soloman ran into his knee BS!

graemelunn
12-31-2006, 03:25 AM
Could either of you please post results and info - cant believe Bravo aren't showing this until 9pm Monday !!:eek:

IMportdreams95
12-31-2006, 06:13 AM
Could either of you please post results and info - cant believe Bravo aren't showing this until 9pm Monday !!:eek:

Anthony Perosh Vs. Christian Wellisch
Christian Wellisch Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Yushin Okami Vs. Rory Singer
Yushin Okami Wins by Submission at 4:03 in the 3rd round by strikes.

Carmelo Marrero Vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Gabriel Gonzaga Wins by Submission at 3:22 in the 1st round by arm bar.

Tony DeSouza Vs. Thiago Alves
Thiago Alves Wins by Technical Knock Out at 1:10 in the 2nd round .

Eric Schafer Vs. Michael Bisping
Michael Bisping Wins by Technical Knock Out at 4:29 in the 1st round .

Jason MacDonald Vs. Chris Leben
Jason MacDonald Wins by Technical Knock Out at 4:03 in the 2nd round by choke.

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Marcio Cruz
Andrei Arlovski Wins by Technical Knock Out at 3:15 in the 1st round .

Keith Jardine Vs. Forrest Griffin
Keith Jardine Wins by Technical Knock Out at 4:41 in the 1st round .

Chuck Liddell Vs. Tito Ortiz
Chuck Liddell Wins by Technical Knock Out at 3:59 in the 3rd round .

So i didn't do to bad with my picks. I went 5-3

xd Rabbit x
12-31-2006, 11:27 AM
Tito looked pretty laxedasical tonight.. ( I dont know how to spell laxa... you know the rest hahah).

graemelunn
12-31-2006, 12:39 PM
Cheers Import, you're a star. Will post my thoughts when i've seen it.

IMportdreams95
12-31-2006, 04:15 PM
Cheers Import, you're a star. Will post my thoughts when i've seen it.

Anytime man, this is MY thread no matter what anyone says :p

If you want me to make use my cam and record any of the fights let me know. Make sure you keep checking in for more UFC updates.

IMportdreams95
12-31-2006, 04:21 PM
So it seems the only guy to beat Liddell, that Liddell hasn't been able to rematch yet is making his way to the UFC! WHAT! Hell ya, QUINTON RAMPAGE JACKSON will make his debut at UFC 67. I can't wait, dude is a Monster litterally! have you seen him?

How in the world can i not know who Mirko Cro Cop is? it just slipped thru the cracks. WOW i got a link to a youtube video via perpetualheaven and the dude is nasty! No way does Tim Silva keep the belt when its time for them to fight. anyways here is the full story.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=4103

graemelunn
12-31-2006, 05:27 PM
You got that link for youtube Cro Cop m8?
Heard the rep but not seen any of his fights (not easy to see Pride over here). Cheers again bud.

IMportdreams95
12-31-2006, 08:21 PM
You got that link for youtube Cro Cop m8?
Heard the rep but not seen any of his fights (not easy to see Pride over here). Cheers again bud.

Here is one i found, that i liked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=MnwstJNkdhA

graemelunn
12-31-2006, 10:27 PM
:omg I think the UFC just became a more interesting place to watch as of February 07.

IMportdreams95
12-31-2006, 11:13 PM
:omg I think the UFC just became a more interesting place to watch as of February 07.

lol. The Heavyweights are in trouble

graemelunn
01-01-2007, 02:05 AM
Hey Import, did you see that stream of yellow trickle past you - I think that was Tim Sylvia. Cro Cop vs. Arlovski would be great though!

IMportdreams95
01-01-2007, 02:26 AM
Hey Import, did you see that stream of yellow trickle past you - I think that was Tim Sylvia. Cro Cop vs. Arlovski would be great though!

Yeah that would be a good fight. I follow MMA, amature to pro, i don't believe that Cro Cop slipped past me! Guess because i dont watch a lot of K-1 or pride. Ah well. From what i've seen, i dont think there is a heavyweight that can take him. Maybe a lightweight, but not any heavyweights

graemelunn
01-01-2007, 03:53 AM
Think I may go and scour ebay for Pride DVD's. They show Pride & K-1 on Eurosport but, just as they have done with their recent coverage of TNA Wrestling, they spoil it by having British commentators with no charisma and no clue. Can you believe they called a kimura "an arm wrench thingy". Poor.
So, any ideas on whats going on with Joe Rogan? Hope he's coming back - he makes you relte to the broadcast in terms of genuine excitement.

IMportdreams95
01-01-2007, 07:24 PM
So, any ideas on whats going on with Joe Rogan? Hope he's coming back - he makes you relte to the broadcast in terms of genuine excitement.

Thats because Joe Rogan is a black belt. Not 100% sure which martial arts but hes a bad ass. He knows whats going on. Joe was at UFC 66. When he isn't there he is out doing his stand up which is great. I Made a thread that noone was interested about him. He pretty fucking funny.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12171&highlight=rogan

graemelunn
01-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Import my friend - they are some of the funniest things I've seen all year (LOL) OK, I'll include most of 06 in that one for you as well - you should really see this one if you haven't already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRq6PaXovrA

IMportdreams95
01-01-2007, 10:27 PM
Import my friend - they are some of the funniest things I've seen all year (LOL) OK, I'll include most of 06 in that one for you as well - you should really see this one if you haven't already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRq6PaXovrA

yeah i've seen it. also check around for some of his Cds. my fav stand up. who knew joe rogan was the man!

graemelunn
01-02-2007, 12:45 AM
Erm... probably just us ;)

Dirtwrinkle
01-13-2007, 06:53 PM
Hrm, no one's mentioned it.

Randy Couture has signed a four fight deal with the UFC. His first fight will be in the March UFC broadcast, against Tim Sylvia, for the heavyweight title.

How messed up is that? :D

It was announced on Joe Rogan's UFC show.

Linkage:
http://ufcmania.com/2007/01/12/hes-back-randy-couture-announces-his-ufc-68-comeback/

PerpetualHeaven
01-18-2007, 05:31 PM
I just looked at the fight card for UFC 67: All or Nothing and I have to say.. 3 former Prider fighters are in this. Anderson Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, and Quinton Jackson.

My picks for the wins are all the PRIDE fighters. All of them will have knockouts in the first round. I also have to say that Cro Cop will be the future heavyweight champ of the UFC.

As for Quinton Jackson, I would love to see him matched up against Liddell eventually and see where that goes. We all know why I want to see that fight :D Liddell got his ass kicked by Quinton Jackson and I know for sure Liddell wants his revenge. Considering that was Liddells very last loss and he hasn't lost ever since that fight, this would probably make the best match up in the UFC to date.

graemelunn
01-18-2007, 06:02 PM
Gotta agree with you there PH, I predict all 3 ex-Pride fighters to win too.
I hope I'm wrong with this, but I predict Randy Couture will beat Tim Sylvia, defend against Cro Cop and have his career brutally ended.
Caught some Cro Cop stuff on Eurosport from K1 and Pride. Holy Shit!!

Jackson vs. Liddell = awesome explosive fight - exactly why I watch UFC.
Can't wait.

Kaens
01-18-2007, 06:29 PM
Gotta agree with you there PH, I predict all 3 ex-Pride fighters to win too.
I hope I'm wrong with this, but I predict Randy Couture will beat Tim Sylvia, defend against Cro Cop and have his career brutally ended.
Caught some Cro Cop stuff on Eurosport from K1 and Pride. Holy Shit!!

Jackson vs. Liddell = awesome explosive fight - exactly why I watch UFC.
Can't wait.\
Of course all three ex-Pride stars will win, they are being given tune up fights to make them look good and market them to the average UFC fan who has no idea who they are.

Sylvia will be Couture. I love Randy, but he couldn't take out heavyweights in '02 which is he dropped down to light heavy. Tim Sylvia is no slouch and his size presents major problems for people. Crocop on the other hand is going to have a field day blasting him with leg kicks and I can't wait to see that. I love Crocop.

graemelunn
01-18-2007, 06:48 PM
Sylvia will beat Couture. I love Randy, but he couldn't take out heavyweights in '02 which is he dropped down to light heavy. Tim Sylvia is no slouch and his size presents major problems for people. Crocop on the other hand is going to have a field day blasting him with leg kicks and I can't wait to see that. I love Crocop.

I honestly believe that in his last fight Sylvia had this appearance as if he couldn't really be bothered and was constantly looking for that one big shot. Although I agree with you in reference to Couture having problems in the heavyweight division recently, I think if he can get Sylvia to the floor, he can dominate him and either pound him into submission or make that fat blubbery bitch tap. I'm sorry I just dont rate Sylvia as a champ.
Whomever Cro Cop faces first, cant wait to see the look on their face when they feel his awesome kicking power. Heavyweight Champ? Put your house on Cro Cop.

Kaens
01-18-2007, 07:01 PM
I honestly believe that in his last fight Sylvia had this appearance as if he couldn't really be bothered and was constantly looking for that one big shot. Although I agree with you in reference to Couture having problems in the heavyweight division recently, I think if he can get Sylvia to the floor, he can dominate him and either pound him into submission or make that fat blubbery bitch tap. I'm sorry I just dont rate Sylvia as a champ.
Whomever Cro Cop faces first, cant wait to see the look on their face when they feel his awesome kicking power. Heavyweight Champ? Put your house on Cro Cop.
I'm telling you, he can't gnp on Sylvia. Sylvia is too damn big, period. And submit? Randy has only had two submissions in his entire career, both chokes, one was his very first mma fight. He won't be submitting anyone, he doesn't even try an juijitsu. Sylvia is an akward looking guy, not very exciting, but he can box very well, he's got good defense and he's better than people give him credit for. I agree with you though, Crocop is going to destroy everyone, but unlike 99.9% of the world I still give Sylvia a chance. I mean it's awfully hard to get inside his crazy reach and it's damn hard to kick a 6'8 guy into the head!

PerpetualHeaven
01-18-2007, 08:31 PM
Yeah as much as I think silvia isn't a real champ, I don't know how much of a chance Randy has.

There is something i'll bring into light. Monson took this to desicion when he stands 5'9! Courture is 6'2 and he has a better reach advantage then Monson did. In terms of power, I don't know how powerful Randy is, but I think he can put up just as a good fight as Monson did.

Anyways, Cro Cop entering is amazing but dude Quinton Jackson!! Oh man, I just want to see Liddell and Jackson go at it. That's liddells only unavenged loss.

IMportdreams95
01-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Anyways, Cro Cop entering is amazing but dude Quinton Jackson!! Oh man, I just want to see Liddell and Jackson go at it. That's liddells only unavenged loss.

Your also forgetting that liddell had a fight already that day. Rampage was his 2nd fight of the night. So think of liddell going in healty and ready to fight...

on the other hand who cares if they were/weren't pride fighters. why do we always put them in categories? ufc vs. pride? well its not. Its UFC now. Obviously they want to fight in the UFC or they would have stayed with pride.

Like kaens said they are being put up aganist nobodys in their first fight. I mean Travis Lutter is very good BUT he had to win a tv show to be put back in the UFC, doesn't that tell you something?

PerpetualHeaven
01-19-2007, 05:38 AM
Your also forgetting that liddell had a fight already that day. Rampage was his 2nd fight of the night. So think of liddell going in healty and ready to fight...

on the other hand who cares if they were/weren't pride fighters. why do we always put them in categories? ufc vs. pride? well its not. Its UFC now. Obviously they want to fight in the UFC or they would have stayed with pride.

Like kaens said they are being put up aganist nobodys in their first fight. I mean Travis Lutter is very good BUT he had to win a tv show to be put back in the UFC, doesn't that tell you something?

Yeah but these guys dominated PRIDE and they want to see what the UFC and all the hype is about. UFC gets a lot of hype and news. A lot more then PRIDE does.

As for Liddells second fight, I don't see on his career fight totals anywhere that he had a fight prior to Rampages fight.

Ice Hunter
01-19-2007, 07:32 AM
Well according to the t.v guys he did have a fight I have herd them say it a few times but i myself am not sure. And when is my man mike quick swick going to get a title shot come on all ready.. But im happy to see them add new guys hopefully they will have a chuck jackson soon

celr831
01-19-2007, 11:17 AM
I want to see Chuck and Silva(Vanderlei). I think that would be a great match up!

PerpetualHeaven
01-19-2007, 12:17 PM
I want to see Chuck and Silva(Vanderlei). I think that would be a great match up!

Wanderlei is heavyweight (215lbs). Either Liddell goes up 1lb or Wanderlei drops 10. It would be an incredible match up though. Oh wow.. I just love Wanderleis style. he's so aggressive and just whoops the crap outta everyone. This is why I think cro cop is going to dominate the heavyweight area. He TKO'd Wanderlei.

celr831
01-19-2007, 01:04 PM
I thought he was a light heavyweight. He has a loss vs Tito and two win vs Jackson. Has he gone up in weight?

PerpetualHeaven
01-19-2007, 02:59 PM
I thought he was a light heavyweight. He has a loss vs Tito and two win vs Jackson. Has he gone up in weight?

That loss against tito was bullshit. Anyone who's seen that fight knew Wanderlei dominated it.
But yeah he went up weight to fight in heavyweight. Im sure he could drop some weight. Wanderlei is the master. I love that guy.

Kaens
01-19-2007, 04:15 PM
So many things to comment on I can't quote them all.. /sigh

I love Liddell and I think he'll kick Rampage's ass this time. I saw that 03 fight and it didn't look like him. Everyone's better now, so don't even start with the obvious comments about how Quinton's better now too. Duh. Chuck hadn't fought anyone for 2 months when Quinton beat him... in case you don't know, Sherdog.com is the greatest mma site period. Awesome podcast and the fight finder is invaluable. Here's is Chuck's mma history (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=192).

As for all of these guy's being Pride fighters and dominating over there that's a stretch. Anderson Silva lost 2 of his six fight in Pride, losing the last two which were 03 & 04. He's been primarily a Cage Rage fighter for three years now. Quinton was in the WFA not Pride. He's definitely spent most of his days in Pride, but he lost twice to Wanderlei and once to Rua. Basically proving that he can't hang with the best in Pride. I actually hate this guy but I will give him the respect he deserves but not more than he's earned. Cro Cop is my favorite heavyweight (sorry Fedor, I love you too) and he is the only one of the three that I would say is a bonafide Pride badass that's leaving Pride for the UFC. The other two were already moved on after loses to other divisions.

Btw, Wanderlei is a light heavy, not a heavy. He put on weight for the pride open weight tournament where Cro Cop beat the hell out of him. He was 225 in that fight I believe, normally fights at 205.. and probably walks around in the 215-220 range and cuts for fights.

PerpetualHeaven
01-19-2007, 06:22 PM
I don't doubt that liddell might win, I just want to see the fight. Quinton is the last man who beat Liddell I would just love to see the fight. I can't say how great Quinton Jackson is right now but he's won his last 3 fights, last one being against Matt Lindland.

Also, when Quinton beat Liddell he also didn't fight for 2 months. He fought 11/9/03 against liddell and his last fight before that was 8/10/03. Also, Quinton Jackson fought Wanderlei in the same day but I don't think that made a difference. I would love to see Wanderlei come over to the UFC but I don't know how he would like the rules. I think he's the best light heavyweight in the world. But that's just me. I don't expect people to agree. I just love his aggressive fighting style and how he just completely dominates every fight.

What was crazy though, I saw a poll where 25-30% of MMA watchers think Liddell is the best MMA fighter of all-time. Fedor had 50% of the votes. I've also heard rumours that CroCop wants to cut down to 205 to fight Liddell.

edit: there were rumours a long time ago about silva vs liddell but the deal went bad. Hopefully PRIDE adn UFC can get some organized so we can see that fight.

kawasakizx636
01-20-2007, 02:00 AM
i love ufc,
watched every fight.
ufc evolved so much within the years.
loved watching the earlier ufc's.some matchs were so unfair.

graemelunn
01-20-2007, 02:08 AM
There were rumours a long time ago about silva vs liddell but the deal went bad. Hopefully PRIDE and UFC can get some organized so we can see that fight.

Apparently, according to an article in Fighting Spirit magazine, the deal didn't go bad - Pride dangled the carrot so that they would even go as far as begin to hype the Silva/Liddell fight on their shows. In fact it was all a work - they were getting some cheap high profile exposure in the run up to their show in Vegas. Must admit, very clever. Bet Dana White was pissed when he realised he'd been done!!

@Kaens - yep, sherdog is THE site for up to date accurate MMA info, nice link.

PerpetualHeaven
01-20-2007, 03:15 AM
Apparently, according to an article in Fighting Spirit magazine, the deal didn't go bad - Pride dangled the carrot so that they would even go as far as begin to hype the Silva/Liddell fight on their shows. In fact it was all a work - they were getting some cheap high profile exposure in the run up to their show in Vegas. Must admit, very clever. Bet Dana White was pissed when he realised he'd been done!!

@Kaens - yep, sherdog is THE site for up to date accurate MMA info, nice link.

Well apparently Crocop was suppose to be the replacement for Silva and Crocop might drop weight to fight Liddell. I'm not sure of this I just read a bunch of rumours about it.

graemelunn
01-20-2007, 12:16 PM
Well apparently Crocop was suppose to be the replacement for Silva and Crocop might drop weight to fight Liddell. I'm not sure of this I just read a bunch of rumours about it.
Rumour or not, Crocop-Liddell would be awesome.

PerpetualHeaven
01-20-2007, 01:16 PM
Rumour or not, Crocop-Liddell would be awesome.

I think it would be a tad unfair. Not much you can do it about it, but Crocop fights at heavyweight so he's used to fighting much bigger guys. I mean if Silva got his ass kicked by Crocop, I don't want to see what happens to Liddell. I don't care what anybody says, if Crocop knocked out Silva in the first round, Liddell has no chance.

Sil3nt360
01-22-2007, 04:43 PM
Mirko Cro Cop will be the next UFC Champion in what ever weight class he fights in. The only person I think can stop him would be Liddell maybe. Cro Cop would kill Tim Sylvia tho.

PerpetualHeaven
01-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Mirko Cro Cop will be the next UFC Champion in what ever weight class he fights in. The only person I think can stop him would be Liddell maybe. Cro Cop would kill Tim Sylvia tho.


Yeah Liddell has the only chance because he's the only guy who's big enough to take on heavyweights with no real problem. Only person Liddell I don't think could beat is Fedor. No one can beat fedor.

celr831
01-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Yeah Liddell has the only chance because he's the only guy who's big enough to take on heavyweights with no real problem. Only person Liddell I don't think could beat is Fedor. No one can beat fedor.




Fedor is the man!

Sil3nt360
01-28-2007, 08:19 PM
Jump Front Kick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Efohx6mlU

Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdDOK6s1bVc&NR

graemelunn
01-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Anyone know when this is going to be aired in full on Bravo in the UK??

Cheers for the post m8 - but a more relevant place would have been The UFC Thread

celr831
01-29-2007, 10:48 PM
This is the UFC thread! Ultimate Fighting Championship

graemelunn
01-31-2007, 06:12 PM
Post was moved afterwards mate :)

graemelunn
02-03-2007, 10:30 AM
Source UFC email:
Lutter misses weight, plans to win against Silva, even though just a pound and a half keeps the fight from being a title fight.

Despite two tries at the scale, TUF 4 winner Travis Lutter will not be challenging for Anderson Silva's UFC Middleweight Championship Saturday night after coming in at a final weight of 186.5 pounds, a pound and a half over the 185-pound middleweight limit. Lutter's first attempt at making weight was 187 pounds, and after two hours he was only able to lose a half-pound. Tomorrow's UFC 67: All or Nothing main event will now be a three round non-title match, with Lutter being fined 10% of his purse by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (5% going to Silva, 5% to the NSAC).

Sil3nt360
02-04-2007, 10:04 PM
Anderson Silva Wins by Submission at 2:11 in the 2nd round by tapout.

Roger Huerta Wins by Technical Knock Out at 0:19 in the 1st round.

Mirko Cro Cop Wins by Technical Knock Out at 4:33 in the 1st round.

Quinton Jackson Wins by Technical Knock Out at 3:49 in the 2nd round.

Patrick Cote Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round.

graemelunn
02-10-2007, 02:24 AM
Neither Rampage or Cro Cop weren't exactly awesome but both got the job done. Cro Cop still showed off those head kicks!
Watch 'em go now the debut jitters are out of the way...

graemelunn
02-15-2007, 09:33 PM
Does anyone know where I can watch Spike TV series Inside The UFC?
Us neglected Brit-types don't have the show even though we have over 700 channels of crap :( .

celr831
03-04-2007, 07:38 AM
Randy is now the Three time Heavyweight Champion of the UfC. Huges and Franklin make there comebacks. Here is a play-by-play of UFC 68 from Sherdog.com
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6884

IMportdreams95
03-04-2007, 08:01 AM
Very Nice UFC indeed. So glad to see Randy win it, I hate Tim Sylvia. Also one of my fav up and coming fighters Matt Hamill won. Good for him.

Sil3nt360
03-04-2007, 12:51 PM
Randy Couture is the man!

Kaens
03-06-2007, 05:31 PM
Yeah, Randy is amazing. I'll admit I was wrong when I said I didn't think he could be Tim. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Tim Silvia fan, but I do think he's underrated. His last few fights though he's just looked terrible so I don't know what his problem is. Now I can't wait to see Randy & CroCop. I thought Randy had a better chance vs CroCop than Tim because of size and style match ups so I have no idea how that one is going to go down now.

PerpetualHeaven
03-06-2007, 08:15 PM
Randy is going to have severe brain damage after CroCop is done with him. Mwhaha. Anyways, yeah i'm surprised I was right about Randy beating Tim. After tims fight with Molson (did I spell that wrong?) I knew Randy had a huge chance.

And good job to my man matt hamill. I loved hime ever since the Ultimate Fighter. He's doing really well. He's been training alot with Tito Ortiz so hopefully he'll start doing better. His striking is still mehish since he's just really focused on wrestling but he'll get awesome with time.

As for Rich Franklin. Oh man.. he's trimmed a lot of fat and he's back in shape. His fight against Anderson Silva, he was in horrible shape. His fat percentage and shape was poor really poor (compared to what he's usually in). Now he's cut a lot of that excess fat and he's back to speed. Looking real good.

bluwolf27
03-29-2007, 03:10 AM
What do you all think about UFC buying Pride? I think it's a good move by the UFC. Pride is still going to be it's own entity, but we can finally get those "super fights" that we all want to see.

celr831
04-08-2007, 04:42 AM
Major up set tonight, St Peirre lost to Matt Serra by knock out in the first round.

Kaens
04-08-2007, 05:58 AM
Major up set tonight, St Peirre lost to Matt Serra by knock out in the first round.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I was watching it. I love Hughes, but totally respect GSP. I didn't see what strike it was that started the whole wobbly GSP, but it looked to me like it was the illegal strike to the back of the head. Just saying. It wasn't intentional or anything, but sucks if that's what caused it. Hughes looked stoked and like he wanted to jump in there and get his belt back that minute LOL

celr831
04-08-2007, 07:43 AM
The left hook grazed the back of his head then he slipped on something. Then got cought with a huge right hook on the botton, fell to the floor then got mounted. Very sad my, girl started crying.

Sil3nt360
04-08-2007, 11:48 AM
Matt Serra Wins by Technical Knock Out at 3:25 in the 1st round by punches.

Josh Koscheck Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Yushin Okami Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Roger Huerta Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Kendall Grove Wins by Submission at 4:42 in the 2nd round by choke.

Heath Herring Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Thales Leites Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round .

Luke Cummo Wins by Technical Knock Out at 2:45 in the 2nd round by punches.

Marcus Davis Wins by Submission at 2:57 in the 2nd round by ankle lock.

PerpetualHeaven
04-08-2007, 02:02 PM
Matt Serra is a nobody. Wow! Tonight is upset city. How can Diego lose to Koscheck? And Swick to Okami? Wowie wowie wow. Matt Hughes most definitely knows he'll get his belt back. Serra is a chump no offense to anyone.

celr831
04-08-2007, 09:58 PM
I wounder who gets first crack at Serra? Will it be Hughs or Pierre? Or Will we see Hughs Vs. Pierre to see who gets a crack at Serrra. They may even let someone else get a crack first. This is crazy!

TS xManiaC
04-08-2007, 10:55 PM
i couldnt belive that Serra won!

The Achievers
04-08-2007, 11:25 PM
I can't believe this either, I didn't think he had it in him to stand up w/ St Pierre...I always thought St. Pierre was a little over-hyped, guess this just shows it was true!

PerpetualHeaven
04-09-2007, 02:13 AM
I can't believe this either, I didn't think he had it in him to stand up w/ St Pierre...I always thought St. Pierre was a little over-hyped, guess this just shows it was true!

That's like saying Hughes is overhyped and BJ Penn. George whooped both of them. Rush is far from being overhyped. I think he's a little off beat mainly because he was injured. Same ordeal with the Rich Franklin/Anderson Silva deal. That's just my opinion though. It was a fluke loss.

celr831
04-09-2007, 03:00 AM
Rich walked into the fight with Silva with a face of a loser. I love Franklin but I know he was going to lose by his face. He was already mentaly beat.

PerpetualHeaven
04-09-2007, 05:20 AM
Yeah I could tell too. He was out of shape too. It's hard recovering from a broken hand like that. He knew he wasn't prepared. There was no way he was prepared. Anderson Silva is probably the best striker in MMA today no way in hell he could do that fight so quick. Do I think a healthy Rich Franklin could beat him? Yeah. I think Rich Franklin has the best fighting IQ in MMA. He's so intelligent when he fights but that's all speculation now. It was clear he wasn't ready and I think it was the same thing with George St. Pierre. Injuries suck but that's a part of all sports.

Ah well, now I can't wait for Hughes to pound the crap out of Serra. I can always count on Hughes.. always.

celr831
04-09-2007, 08:22 AM
You think Franklin is the best striker in MMA! I think Chuck is the Best striker in MMA. He is a true knock out artist!

The Achievers
04-12-2007, 10:53 PM
You think Franklin is the best striker in MMA! I think Chuck is the Best striker in MMA. He is a true knock out artist!

Gotta agree w/ this one, there's nothing you can do but pity anyone who get's in there against chuck, you know he's just gunna beat the sh*t outta them.:boxer

T87853
04-19-2007, 12:55 PM
Chuck is the best at waiting for his shot. You make one mistake on your feet and the match is over.

Flea
04-23-2007, 02:19 AM
Cant believe cro cops leg didnt suffer major damage,
what a cracking fight cotoure and gonzaga should be.

Flea
04-23-2007, 02:29 AM
Heres a site you may want to take a look at if you like mma,
http://www.sherdog.com/

Mustkill9
05-01-2007, 10:46 PM
I wounder who gets first crack at Serra? Will it be Hughs or Pierre? Or Will we see Hughs Vs. Pierre to see who gets a crack at Serrra. They may even let someone else get a crack first. This is crazy!

The plan is in the ultimate fighter season 6 Serra and Hughes will be coaches, and supposedly they will fight at the end of the season. That means around November. There is no plans for Serra to defend his title before that. At UFC 74, tentatively Josh Koscheck will fight St. Pierre- and I can't wait to see that one. Josh Koscheck keeps getting better and better, now that he has been training his stand up game so much.

PerpetualHeaven
05-03-2007, 05:58 PM
The plan is in the ultimate fighter season 6 Serra and Hughes will be coaches, and supposedly they will fight at the end of the season. That means around November. There is no plans for Serra to defend his title before that. At UFC 74, tentatively Josh Koscheck will fight St. Pierre- and I can't wait to see that one. Josh Koscheck keeps getting better and better, now that he has been training his stand up game so much.

I doubt Koscheck can't beat Pierre. Mainly because he had some difficulty with Diego, and I also think that Diego win was a fluke. Plus, Pierre came off his second loss of his career and lost badly.. I think he's going to be like Matt Hughes after Penn beat him.

graemelunn
05-03-2007, 09:31 PM
The Diego-Koscheck fight was an utter snoozefest. Diego was out of sorts and Koscheck's objective was not to get hit.
To even put Koscheck and GSP in the same league is an insult.
I believe GSP to be a future HOF-er and also believe that the true test of a champion is how they respond to defeat/adversity. Frank Mir anyone??

darkXhawk
05-26-2007, 05:22 AM
The Diego-Koscheck fight was an utter snoozefest. Diego was out of sorts and Koscheck's objective was not to get hit.
To even put Koscheck and GSP in the same league is an insult.
I believe GSP to be a future HOF-er and also believe that the true test of a champion is how they respond to defeat/adversity. Frank Mir anyone??

Agreed....No way would Koscheck beat GSP. Hell, Diego really isn't that good. He's too cocky and he has no reason to be. He hasn't accomplished anything yet.

Slormer
05-27-2007, 04:39 AM
What an upset with Rampage winning that fight. Seems all my favourites are getting wrecked. Oh well.

trunk187
05-27-2007, 05:05 AM
WOW i cant believe it but it just happened the ice man just got knocked out it was just one of those hits right on the chin (money shot) boom and that was it he buckled like i said WOW!!!!!!!

Sil3nt360
05-27-2007, 10:39 AM
Quinton Jackson Wins by Technical Knock Out at 1:53 in the 1st round

Terry Martin Wins by Technical Knock Out at 2:04 in the 1st round

Karo Parisyan Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round

Houston Alexander Wins by Technical Knock Out at 0:48 in the 1st round

Kalib Starnes Wins by Unanimous Decision at 5:00 in the 3rd round

Thiago Silva Wins by Stoppage (Referee) at 1:06 in the 1st round by injury

Alan Belcher Wins by Submission at 0:53 in the 1st round by guillotine choke

Din Thomas Wins by Submission at 2:44 in the 2nd round by arm bar

Wilson Gouveia Wins by Submission at 3:06 in the 1st round by guillotine choke

PerpetualHeaven
05-27-2007, 04:07 PM
*dance* I called it. I knew Jackson was going to beat him but I didn't think 1st round knockout. Apparently the best light heavy weight, beat by the same man. Quinton Jackson = the man. He's so damn powerful. They always said Iceman is the strongest light heavyweight, nahhh. :woop: Go jackson go jackson. I'm so happy that this iceman reign is over. Perpetual = very happy man.

graemelunn
05-27-2007, 10:13 PM
Guys, it's great to discuss all things MMA with you all but PLEASE, if you are gonna post results give a spoiler warning - some of us have to wait a day or so before we can watch it and dont get the option of live ppv.

Thanks.

Tiamat66
05-27-2007, 11:31 PM
I knew Jackson was going to win that fight. But even I was surprised about how quick it happened. ESPN magazine got it wrong when they put Liddell on they're cover and threw Jackson's name into the interview as an afterthought. What happened to equal coverage? As far as I'm concerned he is now the guy to beat in the UFC...

darkXhawk
05-28-2007, 05:06 AM
Guys, it's great to discuss all things MMA with you all but PLEASE, if you are gonna post results give a spoiler warning - some of us have to wait a day or so before we can watch it and dont get the option of live ppv.

Thanks.

Thank you I agree! I only know the outcome of the Rampage/Iceman fight. I have to wait till Thursday to see the rest. In Chucks defesne, I will say that it was stopped a little early, but he still lost fair and square. He'll earn his rematch. I also won $5 thanks to that knockout.

darkXhawk
05-28-2007, 05:46 AM
What an upset with Rampage winning that fight. Seems all my favourites are getting wrecked. Oh well.

It wasn't an upset. Rampage is bad man and had a previous vicotry over Chuck.

celr831
05-30-2007, 09:22 AM
The UFC has the best light heavyweight division in all of MMA. This is what its all about. Good fighters make good fights! I can't wait to see the UFC light heavyweight champ(RAMPAGE) VS The Pride light heavyweight champ(HENDERSON). This is what its all about!

darkXhawk
06-13-2007, 06:58 AM
Did anyone catch the slugfest between Spencer Fisher and Sam Stout on Fight Night Live tonight on Spike? I won't give away the results but if you get the chance to watch the replay, you'll see a great fight.

PerpetualHeaven
06-13-2007, 03:42 PM
Last night was AMAZING. So many great finishes. As four the Stout vs Fisher fight. Holy moly. One sided fight. Stout is from where I live currently by the way. The UFCs light weight division is their BEST division by far.

celr831
06-13-2007, 06:22 PM
Just saw the Fisher fight, It was amazing! Can't wait to see Forest this weekend. Hope he comes back STRONG! Also this weekend, Franklin HAS to win this fight to get him back in contingency for the Championship belt!

WildManWiles01
06-16-2007, 04:37 PM
UFC 72 is going to be playing really early..! I am working day shift and didn't realize they plan on playing it at like noon my time....

I might just have to take a long lunch

PerpetualHeaven
06-16-2007, 05:33 PM
Anyone watch TUF? Man oh man, everyone counted out Manny but look at him. He's by far my favourite fighter from the TUF next to Matt Hamill.

darkXhawk
06-16-2007, 08:15 PM
UFC 72 is going to be playing really early..! I am working day shift and didn't realize they plan on playing it at like noon my time....

I might just have to take a long lunch

Lucky! I still have a 6 hour wait. I really hope Griffin wins. It was sad to see him get knocked out in his last fight, but it happens to them all. I'll be shocked if Rich Franklin loses. Hes in the best shape of his career.

WildManWiles01
06-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Well I didnt get to watch it because I was working, but ufc.com already has the posted winners if you want to get the low-down

WingMan800
06-17-2007, 02:51 AM
frickin crazy.. im a penn fan so i hope he beats pulver he sucks

darkXhawk
06-17-2007, 05:03 AM
Decent ppv, could've been better I guess. Im happy with who won. Kinda wished there would've more big finishes. Im really looking forward to seeing Evans vs. Ortiz

Adam Miller
06-17-2007, 10:17 AM
I didn't think that would have been worth paying for.. roll on July 7th Ortiz vs Evans. Should be better.:)

bplayak
06-18-2007, 09:25 PM
Rich Franklin is my favorite fighter and I was happy to see him pull it out this weekend. Yushin Okami was sooo afraid to stand with him in the first ten minutes. Rich just picked him apart and Okami did nothing. The last round at least Okami pushed the pace and forced Franklin to make a mistake, but Rich showed heart and he also showed his jiu jitsu skills are no joke. What an amazing escape from full mount and an amazing kimura escape. Rich is just so big and strong, when he fights Silva or Marquadt I really think he's going to take down and just try to pound either of them out.

mike21878
06-18-2007, 10:00 PM
I watched the K-1 dynamite thing from a few weeks ago .. i'd love to see Brock Lesnar get into some of these UFC PPV's against some real opponents.

celr831
06-20-2007, 11:47 AM
This weekends PPV was weak! I'm happy to see my favorite fights win, but the action was wack! As for seeing Brock Lesnar in the UFC. Brock doesn't have the same skills as most of the UFC fighters. He needs to improve on his skills.

bplayak
06-21-2007, 10:35 PM
All you big UFC fans, did you see the news today! UFC 75, they confirmed the fight between Michael Bisping and Matt Hamill!!!! If any of you missed the Ultimate Fighter 3 show, these two guys really didn't like each other and Matt Hamill had to pull out because of injury but was the favorite to win the show before this. This will be Bisping's first REAL challenge in the UFC. I can not wait for this fight!!!!

WildManWiles01
06-22-2007, 01:01 AM
All you big UFC fans, did you see the news today! UFC 75, they confirmed the fight between Michael Bisping and Matt Hamill!!!! If any of you missed the Ultimate Fighter 3 show, these two guys really didn't like each other and Matt Hamill had to pull out because of injury but was the favorite to win the show before this. This will be Bisping's first REAL challenge in the UFC. I can not wait for this fight!!!!

This statement in bold in untrue... They had their little scuffle but all was reconciled. Matt was the favorite to win but during his last fight after his injury he really didn't impress anyone. Bisping will demolish Matt. Matt's skills compared to Bisping's are not even in the same league.

I'd bet on Michael Bisping anyday with these two

darkXhawk
06-22-2007, 02:09 AM
Is Mark Hamill the def guy? If so, Bisping didn't care for him only because he couldn't hear instructions during training. I haven't really followed TUF all that much so I could be wrong. Anyway, my bet is Bisping.

Slormer
06-22-2007, 02:24 AM
It's Matt, and yes, you're right, he was the deaf guy. I'll go with BJ and Diaz for the win. You never know though.

bplayak
06-22-2007, 07:24 AM
This statement in bold in untrue... They had their little scuffle but all was reconciled. Matt was the favorite to win but during his last fight after his injury he really didn't impress anyone. Bisping will demolish Matt. Matt's skills compared to Bisping's are not even in the same league.

I'd bet on Michael Bisping anyday with these two

What TUF 3 were you watching lol? Hamill said he believes Bisping never would have won the show if it werent the injury that forced him out of the competition. In a recent blog, Bisping stated he has nothing to gain from the fight and even called Hamill pathetic for questioning the legitimacy of his title. Definitely some bitterness there. I was just posting to say this was going to be a good fight and to inform UFC fans about the fight, didn't take any sides. Next time you want to flame someone for posting unbiased information, don't bold a wrong part of a sentence, still trying to figure out how "and Matt Hamill" is untrue, lol.

bplayak
06-22-2007, 07:37 AM
On a side note though, my friends and I LOVE Michael Bisping, he's a great fighter, good at jiu jitsu and a superb striker. He's also very charismatic and a great face for the UFC. He just hasn't fought anyone that has challenged him at all yet. I can see Matt being a little difficult for him. I think Matt will try to take the fight to the ground and probably will succeed on occasion but I think Bisping will be perfectly comfortable in his guard, I could see him submitting Matt from guard by either triangle choke, armbar or oma plata.

Adam Miller
06-22-2007, 07:51 AM
Can anyone confirm it will be in the 02 arena (ufc 75)? I have just started getting into ufc recently and this would own if there was one like 20 miles from me so i could go see it.:woop:

bplayak
06-22-2007, 08:15 AM
Yep, It is confirmed that UFC 75 will be at the O2 arena in London on September 8, 2007. Along with the Bisping vs. Hamill fight, you get to see the headliner with both the Pride Light Heavyweight belt on the line and the UFC Light Heavyweight belt, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Dan Henderson. Also Mirko Cro Cop is fighting Cheick Congo.

celr831
06-22-2007, 09:12 AM
That's going to be a war. Rampage and Henderson, I can't wait! July's PPV looks good to.

Adam Miller
06-22-2007, 05:20 PM
So are tickets on sale yet and could someone please find me a link on how to buy them.:D

bplayak
06-22-2007, 08:27 PM
Here's the link http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/event/12003ECCDA633B9F?artistid=806762&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=742

Hope you enjoy the show!!! I'm jealous you're going!!!

celr831
06-23-2007, 12:48 AM
I went to the Gracie vs Hughes fight in LA. It was a blast. The tickets cost mt 600 each but I had to go to at least one UFC event. The best views are from home though. The good thing about going live is the energy from the crowd!

bplayak
06-23-2007, 11:28 PM
So the Ultimate Fighter Finale is tonight. What is everyone's picks? The two main fights are Jens Pulver vs. BJ Penn (the two coaches of the Ultimate Fighter Season 5) and Manny Gamburyan vs Nate Diaz(Two finalists in the show). Personally I think BJ Penn is going to walk through Jens Pulver. BJ is just too good everywhere, hopefully he trained his cardio this time!!!! I think Nate Diaz is the favorite in the fight but I really think Manny is going to pull out the upset victory. He's alot smaller, but he's coming off a big victory to the pre-show favorite Joe Lauzon. I look for Manny to take down Nate and pound him out.

Thrak360
06-25-2007, 01:36 PM
You have to wonder what would have happened in rounds 2 and 3, if Manny hadn't gotten hurt. Shame to see it end that way, for both of them.

bplayak
06-25-2007, 06:23 PM
Well Manny definitely won the first round. As long as he didn't get caught in any submission, which I don't think he would have, he definitely would have won that fight. And it was a CRAZY night of weird finishes. My favorite was the Gray Maynard vs. Robert Emerson fight when Maynard obliterated Emerson with that slam but knocked himself out. I've never seen anyone tap before from a slam and I don't think I've seen the "slammee" knock himself out. (The closest I've seen to this is UFC 34 when Matt Hughes knocked out Carlos Newton via slam but Hughes seemed out from the triangle choke he was in). What did you think of the finish?

Thrak360
06-25-2007, 07:28 PM
Manny certainly won the first round, and I think he would have won the fight, with his ability to just control the opponent. But I also saw Diaz get dominated by Maynard in the first round of their semi-final fight, only to come out strong in the second round. So that is what really left me wondering about the final fight. Would we have seen a different Diaz in round 2, that could have competed with Manny?

Maynard-Emerson? Yup, the Hughes-Newton finish was what I thought of too. In that case, Newton choked out Hughes. And Hughes slammed Newton unconscious. So in retrospect, that fight was a textbook "no-decision" as they knocked each other out. Of course, that's not how the ref interpreted that one.

I won't admit to knowing all the rules, but once Emerson tapped, and the ref stopped the fight? I thought the decision was made and Gray was the winner. Not sure how long after the fight that the ref made his decision. When he responded to Emerson's tap and signaled the end of the fight, he had no idea of Maynard's condition at that point.

bplayak
07-06-2007, 07:42 PM
Well here we go, tomorrow is UFC 73 properly entitled "Stacked". This is the best FULL card that the UFC has ever put on and is probably the biggest card in any combat sports history. There are two title fights as well as the headlined fight Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz AND the UFC debut of Antonio Noguiera. SO the five PPV televised fights are as follows:

Middleweight Championship-Anderson Silva vs. Nate Marquardt
Lightweight Championship-Sean Sherk vs. Hermes Franca
Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz
Antonio Noguiera vs. Heath Herring
Kenny Florian vs. Alvin Robinson

What are everyone's picks/Thoughts on the fights?

WildManWiles01
07-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Some jackass that I work with just tried to tell me that a UFC fighter would get his ass kicked in a boxing ring but a boxer would not get his ass kicked in the UFC.... idiot

Adam Miller
07-07-2007, 04:41 PM
Im with The Phat UFC Critic for this one.

For those who dont know him go to youtube and search him.

Shuld be a great night but i dnt wnt to stay up until 4 in the morning again here as i am alone tonight where as UFC 71 and 72 i had mates round so we stayed up. I wont see this until 12 hours after it has happened so i wont be back on this thread until then, i don't wanna know who wins.:)

P.S Got my tickets for UFC 75 :drunk

bplayak
07-07-2007, 05:22 PM
Im with The Phat UFC Critic for this one.

For those who dont know him go to youtube and search him.

Shuld be a great night but i dnt wnt to stay up until 4 in the morning again here as i am alone tonight where as UFC 71 and 72 i had mates round so we stayed up. I wont see this until 12 hours after it has happened so i wont be back on this thread until then, i don't wanna know who wins.:)

P.S Got my tickets for UFC 75 :drunk

That's so awesome that you got those UFC 75 tickets man! You'll get to see a great show! How close are you sitting? I will make sure I put a little spoiler notice in the beginning part of my post before I write about the fights tonight ;) My picks tonight are Anderson Silva(for the sheer fact I want him to fight Rich Franklin again and I want to see Rich destroy him this time), Sean Sherk(just think he's unbeatable in this weight class. Only two career losses in the weight class above him losing to Matt Hughes and GSP. The only guy who I think can beat him here is BJ Penn), Rashad Evans(Tito's a punk who just needs to shut up and fight, I look to see Rashad beat Tito at his own, pick him up, slam him, and some good old fashion ground and pound), Antonio Nogueira(He's already beaten Heath Herring twice, I can't see Heath finding a way to beat him), and Kenny Florian(just a great all-around fighter and definitely the second best in his weight class, he should beat his opponent easily).

Have fun watching tonight everyone!!!

darkXhawk
07-08-2007, 06:27 PM
According to the ppv last night, they said you could find the unaired fights on ufc.com. I've looked everywhere and can't find anything except for pre and post fight interviews. Does anyone have a link?

WildManWiles01
07-08-2007, 08:58 PM
According to the ppv last night, they said you could find the unaired fights on ufc.com. I've looked everywhere and can't find anything except for pre and post fight interviews. Does anyone have a link?

Most likely you would have to order it on UFC On Demand... then watch it from there.

bplayak
07-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Well I gave it a couple days before I posted just to make sure everyone had due time to watch the show and figure out the results, here's my take....

All my picks pretty much panned out. Kenny Florian destroyed Alvin Robinson which was expected. Ken-Flo is just too too tough at this weight, it's like a couple years ago when Couture & Liddell were untouchable at light-heavyweight, they just had to keep fighting each other, same with Sherk and Florian, these two guys are just that much better than everyone else in the lightweight division(except for BJ Penn of course if he decides to stay in the weight class). Which since on the topic of these lightweights leads me to the Sherk vs. Franca fight. Sean Sherk is a CARDIO MACHINE!!! If anyone happened to watch UFC all Access w/Sean Sherk this week, you saw that his workout routine is like none other. This guy is in the best shape of anyone in the UFC. Like he said, he wants to be able to go 110 miles per hour for a full five rounds...Saturday night he proved this. He's not the most exciting of fighers but damn can this guy push the pace for the ENTIRITY of the fight. I mean he really is impressive to watch just how relentless he is. He can't finish fights but who really cares, how the heck is anyone going to finish this guy???

The Nogueira fight was a let down, he won the decision, but I'm not sure how. He got absolutely rocked in the first round, Herring should have easily won this fight, game over, BUT instead of just pouncing on him and finishing he decides to let the guy stand up?? Herring was SO tired at the end of the first round he couldn't even finish a guy who was completely gone. Give me a break Heath Herring! Get on a treadmill next time!

Now what I thought was going to be the fight of the night, Rashad vs. Tito, yeah terrible. These two guys styles are just so so similar, it's just a boring match up. Rashad didn't really engage, Tito tried to take Rashad down for fifteen minutes and got a point taken away from him in the second round for just holding the fence over and over. If Tito hadn't done that he would have gotten taken down in the second round which SHOULD have led to a 10-9 Rashad win in round 2. Instead, Tito scored a late take down which led to a 9-9 round instead. Rashad scored a take down in round 3 giving him a 10-9 round. SO with this take down fest, the fight ended in a 28-28 draw, lol. Yeah stupid.

And wrapping it all up in the main even, good old Anderson Silva viciously beat, umm I already forget this guy's name, lol. Why was he fighting Nate Marquardt again? This is good though, because here comes Franklin vs. Silva 2!!! YES!!!

So that's my take on UFC 73. Randy Couture is up next in UFC 74. Can't wait!

Adam Miller
07-09-2007, 07:02 PM
Nice predictions mate.

Im sitting right infont of the fight aout 12 rows back (Row L) thanks to my Dads bosses daughter who works for ticket master. They would have normally cost aout 547 each :eek:.

So UFC 73 was a good night would have liked to see Sean Sherk win by knockout, and i would have liked to see Rashaad Evans go for it a bit more instead of an unsettled score, aparently there was a forth round at the press conference i shall have to go look....

Would have also ben nice for Herring to win too that pisse me off quite badly when he did feck all about nearly KO'ing Noguerra or however you spell his name.

Roll on UFC 75....i mean ufc 74.....:p

bplayak
07-19-2007, 09:33 PM
WOW,hot off the wire, both Hermes Franca AND Sean Sherk failed their post fight drug tests and have been suspended for ONE year by the athletic commission. That is crazy!!! I bet Sean Sherk is going to get his title stripped. I don't know how you can openly take something knowing you will get caught. Both Sean's A and B samples tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite. Hermes Franca has already issued a public apology but no word from Sherk yet.

Adam Miller
07-26-2007, 09:48 AM
On to some positive news.

Liddell v Jardine is now confirmed along with Shoguns UFC debut against Forrest Griffin.

Link: http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-ufc25jul25,1,3003426.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports


Anaheim's Honda Center will be the place where former Ultimate Fighting Championship light-heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell fights for the first time since losing his belt in a surprising first-round knockout loss to Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, UFC officials confirmed Tuesday.

Liddell will fight mixed martial arts veteran Keith Jardine in the main event of UFC 76, scheduled for Sept. 22.

The card will also feature another high-profile light-heavyweight bout pitting Forrest Griffin (14-4), the winner of Spike TV's reality television series "The Ultimate Fighter I," against 2005 PRIDE Fighting Championships grand prix middleweight champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in his UFC debut.

Rua, a Brazilian who has defeated Jackson, is fighting in the UFC Octagon for the first time since the Las Vegas-based organization purchased Japan-based PRIDE earlier this year.

UFC President Dana White has expressed frustration at the scheduling and accounting overseen by the previous PRIDE owners, and told reporters at the UFC event earlier this month in Sacramento that "these guys need to fight."

The 38-year-old Liddell, UFC's most popular fighter, was knocked out less than two minutes into the first round of his May championship defense against Irvine's Jackson at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Liddell had won seven consecutive fights by knockout, a string that included victories over Huntington Beach's Tito Ortiz and current UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture.

Liddell was due to fight former PRIDE champion Wanderlei Silva in an anticipated showdown in Anaheim, but Silva opted not to fight, forcing the UFC to scramble for a replacement opponent in a pay-per-view card that is absent a title fight.

"I was hoping to get Wanderlei. If he doesn't want to fight, what are you going to do?" Liddell said. "I just want to get back to fighting and get my title shot."

But will he get one if he beats Jardine?

"I deserve one," Liddell said.

Like Liddell (20-4), Jardine (12-4-1) was also dismissed in the first round of his most recent fight.

On the same night Liddell lost, Jardine, 31, was a heavier 5-1 favorite against Houston Alexander, who was making his UFC debut. Alexander belted Jardine with a right uppercut and proceeded to pound him until the fight was stopped 48 seconds after it started.

A fight earlier, Jardine appeared on his way toward a title fight shot when he knocked out Griffin in the first round.

"He'll get in there and strike with me, so I think the fans will like that," Liddell said of Jardine.

"For me, I think this is a great fight and people shouldn't underestimate me," Jardine said in a prepared statement. "I think [Liddell] knows this will be similar to my fight with Forrest, a good, exciting, stand-up fight that ends with a knockout."

poulpy72
07-26-2007, 12:32 PM
Liddell will destroy Jardine very quickly I believe. Jardine is coming from a very ugly loss against Alexander and he's now facing one of the greatest punchers of all-time. I think Dana wants to see Jardine go away....

And poor Forrest, he's going to get the beating of his life!!! Shogun is one hell of a fighter and he's going to overwhelm Griffin big time!! I don't think Forrest is at this level yet, but with this year's major upsets, who knows?? Nah...he'll get smoked by Shogun!

Mustkill9
08-03-2007, 07:40 PM
WOW,hot off the wire, both Hermes Franca AND Sean Sherk failed their post fight drug tests and have been suspended for ONE year by the athletic commission. That is crazy!!! I bet Sean Sherk is going to get his title stripped. I don't know how you can openly take something knowing you will get caught. Both Sean's A and B samples tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite. Hermes Franca has already issued a public apology but no word from Sherk yet.

Wow! I'm stunned to hear that about Sherk. I watch every fight the UFC puts on and I saw the Sean Sherk behind the scenes show. The only thing I can think is that Sherk is out of control. I mean we watched him take 22 supplements 3 times a day, and train like a madman for hours on end. He sits there eating disgusting food all day long and is even quoted as saying he "eats for performance not taste." I mean I pay attention to top athletes and their routines, and I've never ever seen anything like this guy! (It might actually be too much for the human body in the long run). And then it turns out, on top of all that, he friggin has to also take illegal substances! What the??!

I also just want to say I think bplayak is extremely knowledgable about UFC from his posts. How about a prediction from me though? Kos-check is gonna beat the amazing St. Pierre.

BackerMan
08-07-2007, 07:20 PM
I love UFC. I've been watching it since the first UFC. I'm a big fan of Chuck Liddell and hope he'll get his title back but the Rampage Jackson too powerful.

poulpy72
08-07-2007, 07:40 PM
Anyone watched the WEC event 2 days ago??? Why in hell didn't they bring Paul Filho to the UFC instead of sending him to the minor leagues?? This guy ruled all his Pride fights...he deserves to be in the UFC imo....

BackerMan
08-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Anyone watched the WEC event 2 days ago??? Why in hell didn't they bring Paul Filho to the UFC instead of sending him to the minor leagues?? This guy ruled all his Pride fights...he deserves to be in the UFC imo....


I saw WEC 2 days ago, yeah they should.

I also watch BodogFight.

poulpy72
08-08-2007, 11:40 AM
Well....Filho still got 50k on Sunday..The best paid fighter by far in this event, so not so bad for a first fight in WEC. Now bring him up with the Rich Franklin and Anderson Silva so we can have some good fights!!

bplayak
08-08-2007, 06:12 PM
Anyone watched the WEC event 2 days ago??? Why in hell didn't they bring Paul Filho to the UFC instead of sending him to the minor leagues?? This guy ruled all his Pride fights...he deserves to be in the UFC imo....

Dana and the Fretittas have been quoted many times saying how the WEC wasn't going to be a farm system for the UFC. They actually want it to compete with the UFC which is why they are trying to bring some good fighters over there. Filho wasn't even given a chance to be in the UFC they just told him he was fighting for the WEC. You'll see some more big time fighters(probably some pride guys) fight in the WEC and then you'll have a PPV down the road that's champion vs. champion, UFC versus the WEC.

poulpy72
08-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Dana and the Fretittas have been quoted many times saying how the WEC wasn't going to be a farm system for the UFC. They actually want it to compete with the UFC which is why they are trying to bring some good fighters over there. Filho wasn't even given a chance to be in the UFC they just told him he was fighting for the WEC. You'll see some more big time fighters(probably some pride guys) fight in the WEC and then you'll have a PPV down the road that's champion vs. champion, UFC versus the WEC.

Yeah...I heard about it not being a farm system, although I have a very hard time believing that! Dana will never have the WEC become as highly perceived as the UFC is. My opinion?? They will ship people that are "has been" (like Pulver) in the WEC to keep the people interested, but I don't expect to see top of the line fighters.

My heart would like what you said to happen, so the UFC is not the only top MMA league (rest in peace Pride), but I've yet to trust it will ever happen.

IMO? Pride is going to be missed by lots of fans, me included! I'm all for inter-leagues fights though...it's always good to see who's #1 in the world, but having more than just one top organization would be nice.

Adam Miller
08-08-2007, 10:59 PM
I dont mind, i wanna see good fights and good fighters and if there all in one place alone im there if they're in 20 different organisations im still there :). I wont not watch because its one company dominating although it saves hastle if all good fighters are in one place.

Its like wanting all the good football players in the English league or in your team.

celr831
08-09-2007, 10:29 AM
I'm a big UFC fan, I also watch Pride events and WEC events. I would love to see UFC as the dominate force in the US and Pride in Japan. Then once and a while have the Champs from both orginizations get down to see not what orginization is better,but to see what fighter is the top fighter in the world!

On a side note, I'm saddened to hear that Sherk tested positive after the fight. It only hurts the sport! I would hate for the MMA community to have the same stigma as our Baseball palyers.

Also I excited to see Shogun in the UFC and saddened at the same time. I love Forest and I would hate to see him killed in the ring! As for Koscheck and St. Pierre. Pierre will put work on Koscheck. Pierre will be tring to make a come back after a bad loss! Also, jardine doesn't deserve to be in the same ring as the Ice man!

darkXhawk
08-18-2007, 08:24 PM
Wanderlei Silva has been signed by UFC and will fight in December. I can't wait. I feel bad for his opponent. http://wwworigin.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=7253

Adam Miller
08-18-2007, 08:35 PM
Yeh just watched th less than exciting video though cough Chucks second fight before fighting Dan Henderson for the title (which ill be watching :))...

bplayak
08-25-2007, 06:21 PM
Well guys, here once again we are upon another UFC. UFC 74 entitl