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SabreOscar

03-18-2008, 10:26 PM

Silva already KO'd Okami, so does Yushin really have a chance with The Spider fighting at his best. I guess 185 is running out of challengers quick.

Silva KO'd Okami with an illegal strike. Silva was DQ'd for that so technically speaking it was Silva's last loss. They should have a rematch to settle the score and simply because Okami has worked his way up for another title shot.

darkXhawk

03-19-2008, 01:17 AM

I don't really see how Okami has worked his way up to a shot. Yeah he beat Evan Tanner but the last fight I seen with him in it was a loss to Rich Franklin, but I don't watch the pre-lim fights so I dunno. But it doesn't matter, Silva will win the rematch.

SabreOscar

03-19-2008, 02:47 AM

darkXhawk

03-19-2008, 04:50 AM

Dont get me wrong, Silva will handle Okami easily. After that, there isnt much left for him to do at Middleweight. There has been talk of GSP coming up and them fighting at a catch weight, or Silva going up to 205lbs. Guess we just have to wait and see.

Yeah I heard talks of them wanting Silva and Liddell to go at it, but I mean come on. If hes able to dominate the division, then let him. But he hasn't fought everybody. Jon Fitch and Karo Parisyan have yet to get a shot.

Mustkill9

03-19-2008, 04:54 AM

Dont get me wrong, Silva will handle Okami easily. After that, there isnt much left for him to do at Middleweight. There has been talk of GSP coming up and them fighting at a catch weight, or Silva going up to 205lbs. Guess we just have to wait and see.

UFC might want him to fight someone who is 205. This could get boring after a while, watching Silva beat people at 185. Then again, I don't know how many times now I've seen a fighter who had "no chance" come away with a huge upset victory. I don't believe that Silva is some kind of Shaolin Monk who has achieved some crazy level that no man can comprehend.

Adam Miller

03-19-2008, 08:55 AM

Mustkill9

03-19-2008, 08:07 PM

I think theres more chance of seeing GSP vs Silva. I think Okami will be the next fight just because of that upkick disqualification and that is the only story/fight that really makes sense.

IN a recent BJ Penn interview Myahem Miller asked him for a preview of his post fight victory comments and BJ got on his knees and said Dana....give me GSP pleaseeee. I think we may see some fighters jump up and down from Lightweight to Middleweight. BJ Penn vs GSP vs Anderson Silva. :)

Yeah if only they didn't need 4 months plus in between fights, we could have 3 man fights, tag teams, rage in a cage. That would be great!

BJ Penn's post fight victory comments? I don't care who you are, when you have to fight Sean Sherk, there's a good chance you're going to lose. It's such bad luck to talk about success before you have it.

Stretchnutz

03-19-2008, 11:33 PM

GSP and Anderson Silva would be an amazing fight! I think GSP got him, he has more physical strength and has the wrestling advantage.

jennyluvsufc

03-24-2008, 01:47 AM

I love watching UFC on tv. It is probly one of my favorite things to watch because there's always a guy getting his ass beat. My aht is off to the guys who do that shit cuz it's like a free for all prety much. Wrestling, amrtial arts, boxing all in one.

Has anybody heard about Top Army Fighter? I just watched a clip on YouTube. From what I gather it is a new show the Military Channel is doing, where they have army men fight it out similar to UFC. I found a link about it at the Military Channel's Website: http://military.discovery.com/tv/top-army-fighter/top-army-fighter.html (http://military.discovery.com/tv/top-army-fighter/top-army-fighter.html)

It's not UFC, but it still looks interesting. What do you guys think?

Mustkill9

03-24-2008, 09:39 PM

Has anybody heard about Top Army Fighter? I just watched a clip on YouTube. From what I gather it is a new show the Military Channel is doing, where they have army men fight it out similar to UFC. I found a link about it at the Military Channel's Website: http://military.discovery.com/tv/top-army-fighter/top-army-fighter.html (http://military.discovery.com/tv/top-army-fighter/top-army-fighter.html)

It's not UFC, but it still looks interesting. What do you guys think?

I think it's great if you can't get enough of watching 2 men fight in a ring. But you will not see the level of competition there is in the UFC. Without seeing any of the fights, I'd say that it's probably the equivalent of watching minor league baseball compared to watching major league baseball. But I have to say, that there are people in minor league baseball who are studs who will succeed in the major leagues one day.

Adam Miller

03-24-2008, 10:04 PM

Yeh i have heard of it before i think thats the one they show on Inside MMA a lot. If your a Mixed Martil Arts fan then its good but its not top level fighting but you wud be suprised how many UFC stars are at these events.

There are lots of othe MMA organisatiosn out there you know :)

This thread needs to be changed to MMA not UFC. :)

Mustkill9

03-24-2008, 11:47 PM

There are lots of othe MMA organisatiosn out there you know :)

I don't know if Bodog fight, and that crap on channel 7 where they have teams count. And I know you're not talking about the Tiger Schulmans league they're starting with Chuck Norris.

fwconquest

03-27-2008, 05:53 PM

Too many leagues now. I wish the UFC would just take over, or they would have belts for each league and fighters could fight in each, like boxing, for a unified champion.

Adam Miller

03-27-2008, 05:59 PM

There are loads of organisations now there used to be UFC and Pride and now there UFC, WEC, Dream, M1 (mmmm...), HD Net Fights, Elite XC including Cage Rage and like 10 others, Strikeforce, World Victory Road and several other smaller ones.

I think its god there shouldn't e a monopoly and the UFC is getting a lot of bad press lately about not treating the fighters well...but i do there there should be cross promotions so the best can fight the best and i think there should be an unbiased official rankings. :)

MEA7HOOK

03-29-2008, 07:49 PM

If anyone's a fan of the show "The Ultimate Fighter," a new season starts this Wednesday. The coaches for this season are going to be Rampage Jackson and Forrest Griffin. There's supposed to be a 3 hour long ufc fight night before the first episode, so even if you're not a fan of the season you should watch the fights and then at least give the first episode a shot.

Smugu

03-29-2008, 08:19 PM

I watched some UFC fights before i started watching the show... I like the show except the challenges are pretty damn stupid, it only started few weeks ago in Finland and i really like the parts where they traind and ofcourse the fights.

I really liked Chuck Liddel and saw him on Late Night with Conan O'Brien so i decided to look up as many of his matches as possible!

Adam Miller

03-29-2008, 08:57 PM

Yeh Chucks kool except the toe nail painiting....which he gets asked about a lot..

Its been official for a few days now that Tim Sylvia has left and was allowed so he does not have to have the one fight left on his UFC contract.

Along with him Monte Cox also has Ben Rothwell now on the M1 roster.

Mustkill9

03-30-2008, 10:54 AM

Nice, I love watching the Ultimate Fighter. What I've heard of it is that this time they started with 32 fighters, and they each had to fight once to make it onto the show- the show will start with 16 fighters.

From what I heard it was a harder season (I don't know I guess they have the final 2, and they just haven't aired it yet, but don't quote me on that). I heard that it was harder because instead of fighting 3 times to make it to the final 2, there's a whole extra fight in the round of 32- and more chances to get hurt so you can't continue. The show makes it look like it's one fight per week, but they actually cram the entire season into a few weeks.

It really sucks going into a fight with bruised ribs or something from a recent fight. I was never a fan of those events that have 8 people fighting in one day- where you have to win 3 fights in 1 day to win the tournament.

Also, a good friend of mine who trains at Matt Serra's gym, says that everyone there thinks Serra is going to win. Referring to how St Pierre said that he came into the first fight unprepared, people have been trying to talk Serra into telling St Pierre during the referee's instructions "what's you're excuse going to be this time?"

whitmania

04-01-2008, 01:50 AM

this may sound crazy but I kinda want to see Fedor sign with Elite XC. I think UFC needs a kick in the pants right now to wake them up, and start giving the fans the best possible fights they can put up. Competition is a great thing. With Elite/Strikeforce growing, it is exactly what the industry needs to keep it growing.

The greatest ratings ever for pro-wrestling came in (approx)'97-02 when wcw and wwf were going head to head every week. When wwf bought out wcw, vince had more talent than he knew what to do with. The talent was being used ineffectively, and thus the shows were sub-par from the norm.

sound familiar yet?

UFC is flood with great talent that is going to waste right now.

Hopefully big things are in store soon.

PerpetualHeaven

04-04-2008, 03:27 PM

Gier

04-07-2008, 09:55 AM

Hi guys, this is my first post here. I love MMA so I thought this would be a good place to start.

I thought UFN 13 was a solid card with some great fights. I was sorry to see Tim Boetch go down, though he did well for once again being a late replacement. Hopefully he will bounce back in his next match.

Good win for Diaz, I love a submission. I am really looking forward to a Diaz/Gamburyan rematch. I think Manvel the Anvil will take it, we shall see, they are both great fighters.

Mustkill9

04-09-2008, 10:08 AM

**SPOILERS OF UFC FIGHT NIGHT 13**

What did everyone think about the new Fight Night? My boy Manny killed it as usual! I want to make love to him. Oh and funny enough, my other favourite fighter won as well, Mr. Matt Hamill.

I'm surprised Karo got knocked out though. Thiago Alves is a great fighter but Karo has never ever lost through submission or KO. Well, there's a first time for everything right?

And is it me, or is Nate Diaz's Jiu Jitsu amazing? Funny thing is that he's a purple belt (unless he received his black belt and I don't know about it). He's just submitting people left and right like nothing. I honestly though Kurt was going to win that fight while watching it. He was just hammering Diaz like he was a child.

I also didn't see a KO coming out of Florian. I was thinking submission the entire time. But, he's an awesome fighter. I definitely think he has the potential to beat Sean Sherk if they meet up again. He just needs to make sure he trains hard enough to build up the Stamina. For anyone who didn't see the Lauzon vs Florian fight here it is:

http://www.mmatko.com/kenny-florian-vs-joe-lauzon-fight-video-ufc-fight-night-13/

I'm thoroughly impressed by his stand up and ground game. Especially those elbows, holy canoly. He's an excellent fighter. Lauzon is a pretty darn good fighter, so I give Florian major props.

Also, WOWWWWWWWW!!! Tommy Speer = useless. He got knocked out in 51 seconds within the first round. He should have stop shooting after he missed the first thousand times.

edit: Totally forgot! Diaz is a brown belt now, not purple.

I've been reading your posts for a while now, and you never mentioned why you like Manny or Hamill. I like Manny and Karo because for many years I was raised by my 100% Armenian grandmother.

Hamill I was rooting for in every fight he had. I really like him too. I made my uncle watch the UFC where Hamill got screwed in the decision loss to Bisping. And I was disappointed that the UFC looked so bad in front of my uncle, when I was trying to get him into watching it more often. We were almost literally pissed off that they gave the win to Bisping.

You know I'm huge into psychology. That said, I don't believe that Hamill is an underdog story. He's a great role model for anybody who has any kind of disability, so don't get me wrong. But first of all, for some reason deaf people excel at wrestling. There are schools for the deaf, and they notoriously have strong or top wrestling programs. I know I'm going to catch flack for saying this, but when you are deaf, you have less to lose by commiting yourself to a crazy workout regimen.

I'm much more impressed with an athlete who first grows up very poor, doesn't get involved in guns, gangs, drugs, etc, then is standing there shooting free throws on a Friday night, instead of going to major parties. Young, good looking, popular guys, who beat the odds and make it in professional sports.

I know Hamill had a wife and everything, but when you're deaf, you're just not sacrificing the same amount of good times, when you go out and practice all day.

Also, Tommy Spear looked awful. Who looked slower in their fight? Spear losing to Johnson, or Franklin in his first fight against Silva? Probably Spear.

Adam Miller

04-09-2008, 11:57 AM

I liked Manny and Hamill too leading up to the UFN but after i just liked Matt...i know fighters touch gloves before the fight so there is no need to do it again, fair enough. So don't touch gloves again (Anderson Silva didn't against Dan Henderson but didn't take a cheap shot) but when you pretend as if your going to and then give a cheap shot i don't like it. Did anyone see Hamills lip after the fight, niceee cut.

I am a Hamill fan but hoped Bisping would win and im English and everyone i watched it with says Bisping lost...

In other news Fedor vs Silvia July 19th, Fedor announced it as official. :)

dda24

04-09-2008, 12:49 PM

I hope you don't really believe in what you said about disabled "deaf" people having less to lose in their life. I had a few deaf friends growing up and the did everything that any normal person did. And yes one of them was on the wrestling team with me and he kicked ass. But not because he couldn't go out and party he kicked ass cause he trained and worked hard as did the majority of our team. If anyone out there has a disability and was affended by this guy I will just apoligize for him because apparently he has no clue what he is talking about. And why he would write something on a public form where he knows he is going to get "flack" for it blows my mind.

By the way how did you gold star 20 songs on expert in GH3 without hitting 1000 note streak...........

I've been reading your posts for a while now, and you never mentioned why you like Manny or Hamill. I like Manny and Karo because for many years I was raised by my 100% Armenian grandmother.

Hamill I was rooting for in every fight he had. I really like him too. I made my uncle watch the UFC where Hamill got screwed in the decision loss to Bisping. And I was disappointed that the UFC looked so bad in front of my uncle, when I was trying to get him into watching it more often. We were almost literally pissed off that they gave the win to Bisping.

You know I'm huge into psychology. That said, I don't believe that Hamill is an underdog story. He's a great role model for anybody who has any kind of disability, so don't get me wrong. But first of all, for some reason deaf people excel at wrestling. There are schools for the deaf, and they notoriously have strong or top wrestling programs. I know I'm going to catch flack for saying this, but when you are deaf, you have less to lose by commiting yourself to a crazy workout regimen.

I'm much more impressed with an athlete who first grows up very poor, doesn't get involved in guns, gangs, drugs, etc, then is standing there shooting free throws on a Friday night, instead of going to major parties. Young, good looking, popular guys, who beat the odds and make it in professional sports.

I know Hamill had a wife and everything, but when you're deaf, you're just not sacrificing the same amount of good times, when you go out and practice all day.

Also, Tommy Spear looked awful. Who looked slower in their fight? Spear losing to Johnson, or Franklin in his first fight against Silva? Probably Spear.

PerpetualHeaven

04-09-2008, 01:33 PM

I've been reading your posts for a while now, and you never mentioned why you like Manny or Hamill. I like Manny and Karo because for many years I was raised by my 100% Armenian grandmother.

Hamill I was rooting for in every fight he had. I really like him too. I made my uncle watch the UFC where Hamill got screwed in the decision loss to Bisping. And I was disappointed that the UFC looked so bad in front of my uncle, when I was trying to get him into watching it more often. We were almost literally pissed off that they gave the win to Bisping.

You know I'm huge into psychology. That said, I don't believe that Hamill is an underdog story. He's a great role model for anybody who has any kind of disability, so don't get me wrong. But first of all, for some reason deaf people excel at wrestling. There are schools for the deaf, and they notoriously have strong or top wrestling programs. I know I'm going to catch flack for saying this, but when you are deaf, you have less to lose by commiting yourself to a crazy workout regimen.

I'm much more impressed with an athlete who first grows up very poor, doesn't get involved in guns, gangs, drugs, etc, then is standing there shooting free throws on a Friday night, instead of going to major parties. Young, good looking, popular guys, who beat the odds and make it in professional sports.

I know Hamill had a wife and everything, but when you're deaf, you're just not sacrificing the same amount of good times, when you go out and practice all day.

Also, Tommy Spear looked awful. Who looked slower in their fight? Spear losing to Johnson, or Franklin in his first fight against Silva? Probably Spear.

I don't know why Hamill is my favourite. It's definitely not because he's deaf. I just like his character I guess you could say and how he's just HUGE! haha. I love Manny because of his character as well. He's freaking just insane. This little guy who no one thought would go anywhere in TUF but with some insane rage came and totally kicked super ass. I was ranting for Manny the entire time.

I'll tell you what was slower then Speer. Houston Alexander. 8 second knock out! hahaha oh my god. He must be embarrassed.

Mustkill9

04-09-2008, 10:06 PM

I hope you don't really believe in what you said about disabled "deaf" people having less to lose in their life. I had a few deaf friends growing up and the did everything that any normal person did. And yes one of them was on the wrestling team with me and he kicked ass. But not because he couldn't go out and party he kicked ass cause he trained and worked hard as did the majority of our team. If anyone out there has a disability and was affended by this guy I will just apoligize for him because apparently he has no clue what he is talking about. And why he would write something on a public form where he knows he is going to get "flack" for it blows my mind.

By the way how did you gold star 20 songs on expert in GH3 without hitting 1000 note streak...........

I guess I'm a liar, moron, and a cheater. If you are going to go do research on me like you did, why don't you read my Myspace page and find out that I'm one of the smartest dudes going.

Yes, being deaf makes you less desirable to the hot chicks and the parties. And the majority of professional athletes had access to those things and more, before they ever made it to the pros. Athletes are notoriously the number 1 partiers (in high school and college, before making it to the pros. Musicians generally have their fun when they're older). Sorry you have a problem with that, but don't take it out on me.

I would feel better hearing from you, if you had posted just 1 on topic thing here in the past. You just come in here harshly correcting me, when at the very LEAST what we're talking about is debateable. Appologizing for me? You know, this UFC forum hasn't had the slightest argument until you showed up.

If you want to know about guitar hero, send me a private message.

duckydan

04-11-2008, 01:39 PM

I don't know why Hamill is my favourite. It's definitely not because he's deaf. I just like his character I guess you could say and how he's just HUGE! haha. I love Manny because of his character as well. He's freaking just insane. This little guy who no one thought would go anywhere in TUF but with some insane rage came and totally kicked super ass. I was ranting for Manny the entire time.

I'll tell you what was slower then Speer. Houston Alexander. 8 second knock out! hahaha oh my god. He must be embarrassed.

It's always good to be in the record books... just not for being the loser in the shortest match in history (tied for at least)

The Ultimate Fighter started off pretty good as well with the fights... lots of good ones but a few that you can already see were the result of luck. At least there's something to watch every week for the next few weeks though.

Mustkill9

04-12-2008, 01:40 AM

I'll tell you what was slower then Speer. Houston Alexander. 8 second knock out! hahaha oh my god. He must be embarrassed.

Yeah and then he goes "Nebraska is STILL in the house!" Dead seriously. You heard how loud he got booed for that one.

I rank that second all time in dumb post fight comments. 3rd I give to Karo Parisyan when he sang "My judo throws are the best. All the other throws are done by little girs." And first place I give to Din Thomas. After a win on the Ultimate Fighter he yells "I'm a bad bitch."

duckydan

04-20-2008, 05:41 AM

Some great fights on the UFC PPV tonight. I was a little shocked at how quickly the GSP and Franklin matches were and with the exception of the one match where the dude was a total bitch and ran the fights were all very good. Looking forward to see Bisping advance in the 185lb class.

SabreOscar

04-20-2008, 07:11 AM

The Canadian fans were great, hope to see some more events up there..those fans were loud!!

CucumberJones

04-20-2008, 07:41 AM

That's not a fair title fight. GSP's from Canada... not a person in that place was rooting for Serra. Asshole Dana White...

Adam Miller

04-20-2008, 01:05 PM

That's not a fair title fight. GSP's from Canada... not a person in that place was rooting for Serra. Asshole Dana White...

GSP would have won if thy fought on the top of the Statue of Liberty....

Did anyone ever doubt GSP? I would have liked to see him win more decisively on the feet but he did get the better of that too..On the floor though did Matt Serra ever keep full guard for more than ten seconds.

All of the fights went as i had hoped however i would have liked to see Charles McCarthy get properly KTFO..i still have yet to watch the fights twice but he was an idiot during the fight.

P.S Joe Calzaghe won too every fight last night went perfectly. :woop:

duckydan

04-20-2008, 05:02 PM

I agree it did not help GSP at all to be in his home town he just dominated that entire fight. If it were close and went to decision I would say maybe but that was just complete domination.

Mustkill9

04-20-2008, 09:49 PM

Charles McCarthy in a main event? UFC couldn't stand to see Bisping get 2 losses in a row, so here they go giving him an easy one.

Everything the UFC does is to "make the sport more popular." When they have it in England, they wheel out all the British fighters. In Canada, they brought out Canadians. And if they want to build up a particular fighter, they try to. I'm not saying I have a problem with it, I would manage UFC about the same way Dana White does (especially now that I've seen his great results.)

duckydan

04-21-2008, 01:08 AM

While they do pick fights that are "gimmes" I do think that it is in the end to help promote the sport. UFC / MMA is the fastest growing sport in the country right now so obviously Dana is doing something right (despite his trying to screw several things up)

kiwi18

04-21-2008, 01:37 AM

Perfect, I just came from a boxing match up at MSG. Great fight, they had to go to the decision for it. Great fight for some tickets me and my Dad got for free.

SaCkaveli20

04-21-2008, 02:24 AM

That's not a fair title fight. GSP's from Canada... not a person in that place was rooting for Serra. Asshole Dana White...

GSP stated in the interview afterwards he would gladly fight Matt Serra in NYC.

Guarentee the results will be the same...

It was nice to see the fans embracing Matt Serra after the fight though.
Shows the class us Canadians have :P hahha

kiwi18

04-21-2008, 02:45 AM

GSP stated in the interview afterwards he would gladly fight Matt Serra in NYC.

Guarentee the results will be the same...

It was nice to see the fans embracing Matt Serra after the fight though.
Shows the class us Canadians have :P hahha

Agreed, I dislike Dana White, he seems stuck up just because he is the owner.:(

duckydan

04-21-2008, 02:34 PM

Agreed, I dislike Dana White, he seems stuck up just because he is the owner.:(

He does come off as being very arrogant... I guess it has to do with the business he's in but I'd be a little less cocky if I were him seeing as how he has offended and lost a good number of fighters as a result of his arrogance.

I'd like to see a GSP / Cerra re-match but not until after the Cerra / Hughes fight they built up but never existed.

PerpetualHeaven

04-21-2008, 05:46 PM

He does come off as being very arrogant... I guess it has to do with the business he's in but I'd be a little less cocky if I were him seeing as how he has offended and lost a good number of fighters as a result of his arrogance.

I'd like to see a GSP / Cerra re-match but not until after the Cerra / Hughes fight they built up but never existed.

The UFC doesn't lose fighters generally. There's a reason why guys like David Loiseau aren't fighting anymore and that's because they accumulated 3 losses. Generally the big name guys can lose that many times but that's because they're big name guys.

SabreOscar

04-21-2008, 06:35 PM

Mustkill9

04-21-2008, 09:19 PM

Dana White is not the owner he is the president and the face of UFC. He deserves and gets most of the credit for the sucess the UFC has achieved in recent years.

The UFC is owned by a LLC, or limited liability company called Zuffa, with 3 owners. Dana White is one of the owners even though his share is only 10%. This is mainly because Dana White was not the money man when the UFC was bought.

Adam Miller

04-21-2008, 09:46 PM

Dana White is not the owner he is the president and the face of UFC. He deserves and gets most of the credit for the sucess the UFC has achieved in recent years.

Joe Silva (I believe thats his name) is the match maker for UFC and does a great job imo in putting together matches that the public wants.

Dana has said in the past that he doesnt like boring fighters so you can lose but as long as you are exciting and competitive you will get another chance in the octagon you just might not be on TV.

The UFC is owned by a LLC, or limited liability company called Zuffa, with 3 owners. Dana White is one of the owners even though his share is only 10%. This is mainly because Dana White was not the money man when the UFC was bought.

Both right, Dana gets way to much stick in my opinion and does know what he is doing.

Someone posted on Sherdog that Meltzer has said there is going to be a major reshuffle in the UFC roster?

Maybe less than top level UFC fighters - WEC and WEC champions vs UFC champions?

Mustkill9

04-22-2008, 09:31 AM

Kalib Starnes just got cut from his UFC contract for being a wuss running away in his fight against Nate Quarry. It probably didn't help that he then was yelling swear words and homo remarks at a member of Quarry's group, who questioned Starnes about running away. Starnes previously had beaten Chris Leben and Jason McDonald, so it's hard to understand why he was running away from Nate Quarry.

Starnes' PREFIGHT comments...
"I'm gonna win. By knockout or decision. I think it's gonna be a big surprise to him."
Now that has to be the first time a fighter ever claimed that he's going to "win by decision." I had to replay it 5 times, to make sure I heard him right. And he was speaking English, so it's not one of those funny translations from another language.

Adam Miller

04-22-2008, 11:38 AM

duckydan

04-22-2008, 02:19 PM

What's funny is there were three reports prior to the injury that Liddell was out of the main event and every time UFC denied it. Now he is legitimately injured. Sucks but at least I'll save $55 that month.

That said about Kalib he was a bitch plain and simple. He can give excuses but he ran. At least take a dive or throw a punch or just refuse to fight... don't step into the ring and then run. Once you step into the ring you agree to fight so whatever his reason is the truth is he's just a bitch.

Adam Miller

04-22-2008, 04:43 PM

Im not sure about Kalib obviously im disappointed and he did just run away but we will find out more tomorrow from a press conference i heard about, i have now heard the radio interview of him saying it was a protest..

Chuck was still planning to fight with the injury but i mean it speaks for itself of you look...http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11489

I hope he is able to fight soonish after ufc 85 then even if i dont get to see it, but does anyone have any good fights that the ufc can possible make happen at this ufc event because i can't think of any....

Maybe they will get Bisping to fight because they love to let fighters fight in the country there from..but apart from that who is available to fight?

Jicholls

04-22-2008, 05:06 PM

I like to watch this show but I have no idea what you are talking about.. Still like the show though.

duckydan

04-22-2008, 05:50 PM

Talking about UFC that took place this past weekend. Aside from the "Ultimate Fighter" reality show there are also PPV fights that take place every month.

VicLev

04-22-2008, 05:54 PM

GSP! GSP! GSP!
Great Card... except for Kalib...

Can't wait for the game to come out too. Looks AMAZING!!!

Mustkill9

04-22-2008, 09:15 PM

Oh yeh i forgot to mention about Starnes he has since said that he ran away as protest towards the UFC for not aying his and other fighters medical bills that he feels they should cover.

He also said his management is having a press conference on Wednesday about it so we will see.

This reminds me of the time I was supposed to DJ somewhere (for free), and they had me sit around for 2 hours doing nothing, while they played some crappy CD, and the sound man was just messing around trying to get the system to sound good. The club owner was outside just hanging out, and he didn't want to talk about it. There was no excuse that I was sitting there doing nothing, while a crappy CD played.

So when I started playing, I was pissed off, and I was screwing around, and I clearly remember the whole place going nuts when I put on Ace of Base- I Saw the Sign. I did it to say F U to the management, but the only person who looked bad was me.

I felt like Kalib Starnes.

Starnes is an idiot though. He signed up to fight for a LLC, Limited Liability Company. We have to assume part of the reason they are a LLC in the first place is to... limit the liability for what happens in the ring. I'm sure these contracts the fighters sign explain whatever Starnes is complaining about, and Starnes' lawyer would have been able to answer liability questions before Starnes ever fought. Judgement for the defendant.

PerpetualHeaven

04-23-2008, 09:14 PM

AH HA! Knew it! Chuck really is the suck. Chuck the suck. haha, I'm just teasing. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Bisping fight him but I would prefer Hamill! Two of the best wrestlers in the league duking it out. How freaking awesome would that be? You can go the undefeated route and say Lyoto Machida and call it the battle of the undefeated's. Shogun or Thiago Silva would work too! But those are the only guys I would throw in with Evans in my opinion.

Oh yeah, Mustkill have you watched BJ Penn's view on why cardio won't be an issue for him? It's on the main page right now.

Mustkill9

04-24-2008, 08:32 PM

Oh yeah, Mustkill have you watched BJ Penn's view on why cardio won't be an issue for him? It's on the main page right now.

I see. Penn is starting a new thing. Coming to an interview with a script. They should have given him one of those take home and fill out in your free time interviews. You know I'm a big Sherk fan, although I have tons of respect for Penn's fight skills.

I'm done predicting these fights. The UFC has definitely proven that you just never know which fighter is going to win. I'm pretty sure if you picked the moneylines for every single underdog the last 2 years, you would be up money right now. Maybe even a lot.

Current line: Penn -215, Sherk +175. Which seems kind of ridiculous to me. Sherk is 31-2, his only losses are to GSP and Matt Hughes, and he fought some pretty tough competition. BJ Penn is 12-4, and considering his comments about Sherk, Penn also has lost to BOTH GSP and Matt Hughes also!

By the way, I've got Grand Theft Auto. Boyeeeee. Offline all day!

Adam Miller

04-24-2008, 08:48 PM

I got GTA too you see BAS RUTTEN IS IN IT!!

I havent seen that Penn interview what main page?

I have seen one he rips Sherk for roids though...funny as anything...with Jason Miller.

Mustkill9

04-24-2008, 09:13 PM

I got GTA too you see BAS RUTTEN IS IN IT!!

I havent seen that Penn interview what main page?

I have seen one he rips Sherk for roids though...funny as anything...with Jason Miller.

The interview is on UFC.com If you haven't seen the latest Ultimate Fighter, be careful going to that page, because it's right there on the home page the results. I remember that people in England see TUF after America does.

I see you went online with your GTA 4. I'm trying to restrain myself, just in the rare chance they decide to do something stupid to people who are playing it early.

Adam Miller

04-24-2008, 09:16 PM

The interview is on UFC.com If you haven't seen the latest Ultimate Fighter, be careful going to that page, because it's right there on the home page the results. I remember that people in England see TUF after America does.

I see you went online with your GTA 4. I'm trying to restrain myself, just in the rare chance they decide to do something stupid to people who are playing it early.

Yeh i went online with it and i dont believe anything will happen. I went online and then went offline and havent been online for over a day now..

Thanks for the warning, i havent seen TUF yet its not on until Saturday at midnight over here..thanks for the warning your so considerate lol :p

Mustkill9

04-25-2008, 12:27 AM

Yeh i went online with it and i dont believe anything will happen. I went online and then went offline and havent been online for over a day now..

Thanks for the warning, i havent seen TUF yet its not on until Saturday at midnight over here..thanks for the warning your so considerate lol :p

I wasn't sure what you were talking about before. But I found Bas Rutten on the TV. The TV stations in the game are unbelievable. I turned it to a show about being super rich. And that beer commercial was pure genius. Saints Row 2 is crapping it's pants right now.

This guy on the radio goes "I like to celebrate real holidays. Like finding an Indian reservation, and trying to figure out how to steal their shit again." Wow.

This game is such a must have it's ridiculous.

Adam Miller

04-25-2008, 08:22 AM

I wasn't sure what you were talking about before. But I found Bas Rutten on the TV. The TV stations in the game are unbelievable. I turned it to a show about being super rich. And that beer commercial was pure genius. Saints Row 2 is crapping it's pants right now.

This guy on the radio goes "I like to celebrate real holidays. Like finding an Indian reservation, and trying to figure out how to steal their shit again." Wow.

This game is such a must have it's ridiculous.

Apparently Bas Rutten helped develop the fighting system in the game but i have only found one site where thats mentioned..

The other shows though i once saw Ricky Gervais and turned over by accident and couldn't find it again but i did find another famous comedian..i can't remember his name though.

PerpetualHeaven

04-25-2008, 02:36 PM

My predictions for UFC 84:

BJ Penn Vs. Sean Sherk - BJ Penn 2nd Round via Rear Naked Choke
Wanderlei Silva Vs. Keith Jardine - Wanderlei 2nd Round via TKO
Wilson Gouveia Vs. Goran Reljic - Wilson 1st Round via Arm Bar
Tito Ortiz Vs. Lyoto Machida - Ortiz by Decision
Thiago Silva Vs. Antonio Mendes - Thiago 1st Round via TKO

I won't predict the rest. I really like Terry Etim. He is such a skilled fighter. His last loss was not only his first, but it was his only fight to ever go past 1 round. Rich Clemnti is really experienced so I'm going to avoid predicting. :p I know everyone won't agree with what I have but that's why it's predictions. I could be wrong! I do know one thing though.. Wanderlei better win or I will be a sad panda!

Adam Miller

04-25-2008, 05:58 PM

Mustkill9

04-25-2008, 07:06 PM

I like those predictions but i dont see it being Tito that pics up the decision....

Like you im also gonna be nervous for Wanderlei..god knows where the techno viking would stand if he losses though hes beat Chuck and Forrest..

Jardine DOES look like the Techno Viking! :) I was wondering who the Techno Viking reminded me of. The Techno Viking has a better physique than Jardine though, and probably is in his weight class, and can kick his ass at least a few times out of 10.

Adam Miller

04-25-2008, 08:39 PM

Jardine DOES look like the Techno Viking! :) I was wondering who the Techno Viking reminded me of. The Techno Viking has a better physique than Jardine though, and probably is in his weight class, and can kick his ass at least a few times out of 10.

Could you imagine the promotion of techno viking vs Jardine they could build him up like Kimbo..."the internet legend to fight the dean of mean". :p

MATT HUGHES TO FIGHT THIAGO ALVES AS MAIN EVENT UFC 85!

Not huge news to you guys really but if your going to the event then..it is. :)

May mean Chuck might be in the building that night as he is a friend of Hughes. :)

PerpetualHeaven

04-26-2008, 05:32 PM

I like those predictions but i dont see it being Tito that pics up the decision....

Like you im also gonna be nervous for Wanderlei..god knows where the techno viking would stand if he losses though hes beat Chuck and Forrest..

I was having a toughie with that one. Ortiz is kind of out of it. He doesn't have that dominance he once had. I really like Lyoto! Either way, I know it's going to end in decision.

Alves vs Hughes will be a really good fight. Alves is just dominating. He has insane knockout power. I would like to see Hughes getting knocked out. He should have just retired after he lost to GSP.

SabreOscar

04-28-2008, 05:40 AM

Ortiz will lose, he is too caught up in the Rock and Roll lifestyle and his pornstar girlfriend. Hopefully it will be a good fight though.

Hughes will get beat badly and realy show his "age" causing him to retire, which is too bad beacause I realy wanted to see him and Sera got at it.

Adam Miller

04-28-2008, 08:27 AM

I think Hughes will still fight Serra he has nothing to loose. If i was Hughes and i couldn't beat GSP i would just want to add more names to the legacy. Id want wins over guys that are going to be around in years time. I think a win and we will see him and Serra for sure maybe on the end of year card..

I have heard of him going up to 185. :)

duckydan

04-30-2008, 04:31 PM

I hope Hughes fights Serra. That was the fight I've been looking most towards since the Ortiz / Lidell battle a year or two ago.

SabreOscar

05-01-2008, 05:33 AM

Adam Miller

05-01-2008, 07:49 AM

Hughes would get Destroyed at 185. Fight Serra then hang them up imo.

Yeh thats what i think also..after Irvin, Serra then retire. :)

Also apparently Chris Leben was arrested for DUI and will be on trial today...he did not get bail after violating probation.

So will he be removed from the UFC? Will the Bisping fight happen? :)

duckydan

05-01-2008, 06:22 PM

Adam Miller

05-01-2008, 06:41 PM

Did anyone on this board watch TUF last night... that has to be the worst fight I've seen on that show ever... and aside from the Kalib fight on the PPV one of the worst fights in a long time. There was absolutely no action at all (not even submission attempts)

I havent seen it yet its not on until Saturdays in the UK but way to hype the fight. :p

However that did remind me that Kalib has came out denied all rumours of going on radio orthe fight being a protest.

Interesting read here:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/kalib-starnes-tests-positive-marijuana-cocaine-heroin-amphetamines-774287.html

SabreOscar

05-02-2008, 02:04 AM

I havent seen it yet its not on until Saturdays in the UK but way to hype the fight. :p

However that did remind me that Kalib has came out denied all rumours of going on radio orthe fight being a protest.

Interesting read here:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/kalib-starnes-tests-positive-marijuana-cocaine-heroin-amphetamines-774287.html

For some reason the link will not open for me. Care to go into details of what it said?

Mustkill9

05-02-2008, 05:37 AM

For some reason the link will not open for me. Care to go into details of what it said?

This might be a different article than the one Adam is referring to, because I read mine on Yahoo. But I read that he was talking about how he hurt his foot on "his first kick that he landed" and then he couldn't fight. Starnes believes that he went out there and tried, and just lost badly. Basically about 50 people left comments to the story by the time I read it, and not one person had even the slightest positive comment about Starnes.

My opinion is, that there is nothing Starnes can say that won't sound like a bad excuse. No one buys the whole injured foot thing. He's fighting in front of his hometown crowd that was really really behind him. Just like Dana White said "when you're in front of your hometown crowd, you have to show up."

The injury excuse doesn't work because 1)he didn't appear injured. When you're injured you lay there in agony tapping out, like how Manny tapped when he seperated his shoulder. And 2)if you have an injury that hurts but isn't bad enough where you have to tap, then you at least hurry the fight, or go for a takedown. Injured foot? You were running around just fine man!

Adam Miller

05-02-2008, 08:34 AM

This is 100% all from Kalib Starnes himself:

Kalib Starnes tests positive for marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and amphetamines
I was never on any Montreal radio show. If anyone knows what radio show that I allegedly appeared on, or has any recording of it or any evidence of it whatsoever I would love to know about it. So far I've only heard rumors and allegations. I did not throw the fight, the fight was not a protest against the UFC.

I will say again what I've said before; I had the game plan of circling and moving to stay out of exchanges and to work off of my jab because he hits so hard, to avoid the clinch because he was very strong and I'd taken knees and elbows there in my previous fight, and to throw some kicks as the fight wore on.

I threw 35 punches in the first round and I would have thrown a lot more had I landed any of them, but I found him very difficult to hit and he was counter punching whenever I would step in, with one of those counter punches almost dropping me early. Most of my takedowns come out of the clinch and when I tried to switch it up and get position in the clinch to take him down I couldn't do it because he seemed much stronger than me.

In the second round it was more of the same except that he almost knocked me out again early which made me more hesitant to throw punches so I decided to throw some kicks and at about 2 minutes into round two I threw a low right roundhouse kick that hit his shin awkwardly and I broke my foot, which stopped me from throwing anymore kicks, other than a few tentative kicks with my left leg. **That is not an excuse for losing it is simply something that happened and for me to mention it I think is quite reasonable.

I found myself in a fight where I couldn't stand with the guy, he was awkward and he hit hard having almost knocked me out three times in the fight, I couldn't take him down and work my ground game (I got him down only once and just managed to land a few shots because he got up so fast), and so I felt like I could either keep moving or get knocked out. Then late in the third he started to mock me out of frustration, but really at that point, I was just a solidly beaten fighter who was trying not to get knocked out, and had fallen into a pattern that I couldn't get out of. It was the worst athletic performance of my life.

Afterword his cornerman was swearing at me and calling me names, I responded to him by calling him names and telling him that he should get in there and fight then, meaning fight in the UFC, not fight me. He apologized to me afterword I suppose realizing that he was out of line, and so did Nate and I know that they were both acting out of frustration and so I forgave them and apologized in return for losing my temper. I think it's rediculous that he be made into some kind of hero for mocking a guy that he just beat the crap out of, and I felt forced into retreating because he had such a good offense. I didn't choose to do it as some kind of protest. I did try to win that fight and I did show up to fight, I don't care what Dana White says, I just wasn't good enough on that day to do it. I have no excuses for losing the fight.

If you want a copy of my medical records the guys at Sherdog can contact me, or Primo at ATT and you'll be provided with that. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have never said that the UFC does not cover a fighters medical expenses, I'm dealing with their medical claims department right now regarding my broken foot and other injuries sustained at UFC 83, and up until this point they have honored their obligations.

I have as much right to discuss what fighters are paid as anyone else and I know a lot about the subject having fought for the organization in some capacity seven times. Believe me, you're paid if you win and tossed aside like garbage if you lose. Until these guys learn to market themselves the payouts are going to remain pathetic compared to boxing and the UFC's little traveling circus will roam from town to town with the billionaires raking in the cash while the fighters split up about five percent of the take between them.

What prompted me to discuss it were comments about it being wise to get knocked out as opposed to moving out of the way, apparently from brain injury advocates who've taken their own advice. I'm not retiring and I've already been offered more than I ever made at the UFC, which was $5,000 and $5000, plus $30000 fight of the night (which they gave me because I had no heart), plus an additional $25000 (because I don't belong in the UFC presumably). That's $65,000 you clever little monkeys, but remember that if I'd lost I would have walked away with a sweet $5000 and a kick in the ass, because they only pay the winners. The only problem with that is, somebody loses every time.

Here's a typical article from another website illustrating the type of thing that I get to deal with now. And I'll post some quotes from forums I've looked through after that. Such fine human beings are drawn to this sport. I can't wait to jump back in there and fight for your amusement!

Kalib Starnes: Go Fuck Yourself

By Michael Rome
Posted on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:07:42 PM EDT
There's a gigantic thread on Sherdog with a report on why Kalib Starnes did what he did. This of course could be be bullshit, but it is from a senior poster there and I believe it, and will of course take this down if it turns out it isn't true. I won't apologize though because no matter what his explanation I still hate him:

Basically he sets the record straight and backs it up with proof. As many of you know this was his last fight of the UFC contract and he has always voiced his dissatisfaction with his salary. Basically after the Kendall Grove fight where his rib was broken, UFC did NOT cover any medical bills even though it happened on the "work site".
He said that he is one of the many fighters who get injured and never compensated by the UFC. He was well aware that he was on the main card because it was Canada, and this being his last fight he decided to protest in the names of all underpaid fighters and screw over the UFC.
This is NO joke because he claimed that the only reason Dana White officially released the fight bonuses was in order to counter-act the public statement that Starnes is about to make or would have made. However, since the 75k fight bonuses were disclosed Kalib's martyr actions may not be as significant.

Nevertheless, expect an official statement later this week as his gym is holding a official press conference on Wednesday. We all know that the "real" Kalib Starnes would have never fought the way he did and luckily there IS an explanation.

I can think of FIFTY BILLION better ways to make this point. What a cocksucker. How about try to win and then get on the microphone and point it out to everyone. I hope this is true because I want to hate him even more. According to SDS on Sherdog, he is retiring, which I guess is decent news.

END.

Yeh so as Mustkill said he does talk about an injured foot which has apparently been proved now but the guy still ran away even for the first round. He says basically if he tried to exchange with Nate he would of got knocked out and that he got rocked a couple of times..but for the two times i think Nate did catch up with him (i wont say they exchanged with him) he didn't look like he was getting beaten to badly, or maybe it was just me.

Unlike the people on Yahoo everyone on sherdog went from creating hate threads to being so understanding and respectful. Fans are fickle especially when hes on the thread posting..

Im really looking forward to ufc 84 i think its gonna be the best card of the year so far. :)

Mustkill9

05-02-2008, 09:15 AM

I know this was mentioned yesterday, but here's a full article about Chris Leben and his DUI charge:

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Chris Leben looks to clear up DUI charge prior to UFC 85

Chris Leben flew from Hawaii to Oregon to turn himself in on an old Driving Under the Influence (DUI) charge, clearing the way for him to obtain his visa and take on Michael Bisping at UFC 85: “Bedlam” at the O2 Arena in London, England, on June 7.
According to TJ Thompson of Icon Sport, “The Crippler” will have to sit in jail for 8-10 days before he gets a hearing because the warrant was a “no bail” warrant.
Here’s a snip:
“When he got the call to fight Bisping on June 7th in London he knew what he had to do. He immediately flew to Oregon and turned himself in on the probation violation…. The moment he appeared before the judge after turning himself in the warrant was revoked and he is able to get his VISA for London.”
This appears to be just minor setback for Leben — with more than eight weeks to prepare for “The Count” a little time in the slammer doesn’t seem like it will impact his preparation for the 185-pound tilt.
In fact, Thompson affirms that Leben is in excellent shape and that his decision to turn himself in shows his growth “spiritually and mentally” as a fighter and person.
Leben, he continues, will be ready for Bisping on June 7.
************************************************** ******

This article is funny. It implies that Chris Leben has been a fugitive, with an open warrant out for his arrest. And if it weren't for the fact that he needed to go to London for a UFC event, who knows how long he would have been a fugitive for? :)

Also Travis Lutter got cut from his contract. Good. Was he the first fighter in UFC history who didn't make weight for a title fight? Probably. I don't even remember another time that a UFC fighter didn't make weight for a non-title fight. Add his lack of personality, and there's no room for him in the super-competitive UFC.

duckydan

05-03-2008, 06:06 PM

The last PPV had some interest events... Kalib fired for being a wuss... Lutter fired for being lazy. While he may have had an injury (Kalib) isn't it at least better to throw in the towel? Also how did that get fight of the night? Is he talking out of his ass about that $30k bonus for fight of the night there wasn't even a fight. Based on the press release the fight of the night bonus went to Jonathan Goulet and Kuniyoshi Hironaka with no bonuses being given to Starnes.

Adam Miller

05-03-2008, 06:15 PM

Mustkill9

05-03-2008, 09:30 PM

Who said that Kalib got the fight of the night bonus? Are you saying Kalib said he got it?

Also it was 75k. :)

I thought Starnes was saying that too, in the article you posted. It can't possible be true though (that he got bonuses). The highlight of that fight was when Quarry did the running man.

Look, if Starnes was seriously fighting in the fight, then he at least needs to cheap shot Quarry by punching him in the stomach while Quarry was making that gesture with his arms over his face- that lasted for like 10 seconds (at the end of the fight)

I think the UFC would love to have an event like tonight- to give the fans something else to talk about!

duckydan

05-06-2008, 03:04 PM

Starnes actually said that he got the fight of the night bonus on that website that was posted. That's why I don't believe a word he said. He wants to feel like he's a great fighter when in reality he got fired because he was afraid to even attempt to fight.

Edit:

Also interesting to see three more fighters released today: Din Thomas, Kuniyoshi Hironaka, and Tommy Speer. All three were pretty good fighters too so it makes me wonder what the UFC has in mind?

Adam Miller

05-06-2008, 04:52 PM

Also interesting to see three more fighters released today: Din Thomas, Kuniyoshi Hironaka, and Tommy Speer. All three were pretty good fighters too so it makes me wonder what the UFC has in mind?

I thought that Travis Lutter was a good fighter but its just he wasn't up to potential...along with Kalib Starnes..and Joe Doerkson was also released as well but he had a few losses and i suppose they didnt think he would work his way back up.

I may start a fight fans social group :)
This way i can post little updates and rumours i hear instead of making a hole post about it. :)

SabreOscar

05-07-2008, 11:13 PM

Adam Miller

05-08-2008, 03:21 PM

I just met Nate Diaz today. Talk about a real down to earth guy. Just wish I had my camera with me. He was with some of his boys and a few girls chillin in a In n Out parking lot with his shirt off lol.

Basically just shook hands with the guy and told him he was a bad mofo and that the triangle choke he put on in his last fight was one of the sickest things I had ever seen.

Sweet, that triangle made me laugh he celebrated while holding it in before he had won because he knew he was going to win...i thought it was brilliant.

What did he say?

The Nick Diaz fight with Cesar Gracie is now back on also. :)

duckydan

05-08-2008, 05:04 PM

That was a pretty funny moment. Most people struggle to keep the hold on and he was relaxing and celebrating.

That said make sure you check out TUF this week Adam... very good fights... makes up for the awful shit from last week that was a waste of space.

SabreOscar

05-08-2008, 07:10 PM

Sweet, that triangle made me laugh he celebrated while holding it in before he had won because he knew he was going to win...i thought it was brilliant.

What did he say?

The Nick Diaz fight with Cesar Gracie is now back on also. :)

Well first off I dont want to go too much into my personal life but I am a Soldier in the US Army.

When I saw him I was in uniform, we made eye contact and sort of did the "whats up" nod with our heads. I approached him, shook hands and told him he was a bad mofo (can we cuss on these boards?). How sick his triangle choke was and that I was looking forward to his next fight.

He thanked me for being in the Service, everything we are doing "over there" and for supporting him as a fighter.

I pretty much left it at that, like I said he was hanging out with some friends so I didnt want to bother him too much. He was in the parking lot with his shirt off shadow boxing when I left. People were giving him dirty looks like he was some punk, alot of people did not recognize him.

Adam Miller

05-08-2008, 07:49 PM

Well first off I dont want to go too much into my personal life but I am a Soldier in the US Army.

When I saw him I was in uniform, we made eye contact and sort of did the "whats up" nod with our heads. I approached him, shook hands and told him he was a bad mofo (can we cuss on these boards?). How sick his triangle choke was and that I was looking forward to his next fight.

He thanked me for being in the Service, everything we are doing "over there" and for supporting him as a fighter.

I pretty much left it at that, like I said he was hanging out with some friends so I didnt want to bother him too much. He was in the parking lot with his shirt off shadow boxing when I left. People were giving him dirty looks like he was some punk, alot of people did not recognize him.

Sweet. Yes you can cuss if its necesarry and not at anyone and you can also go into some detail about your personal life..these baords are 95% stalker free. :p

Thats cool that you met him and you do get a +1 for being in the army.

I have also set up the fight fans social group and sent a couple of requests out. :)

SabreOscar

05-09-2008, 12:32 AM

Yeah I excepeted the invitation to the Fight Fan group. We need more members =)

Faber v. Pulver is going to be a great fight. I have to go with the younger more athletic Faber on this one.

Mustkill9

05-09-2008, 10:37 AM

Yeah I excepeted the invitation to the Fight Fan group. We need more members =)

I'm surprised that this thread hasn't become more popular, considering MMA is getting more popular, and this website is becoming more popular. I'm pretty sure there are lurkers here, because people have come out of nowhere to discuss a few controversial things on this thread.

I actually highly approve of people who just like to read, and not contribute. Seriously, I'll pretty much guarantee you that no one on this website with at least 250 posts- has read more lines of text per post made than I have. I've read tons of stuff on this website.

Speaking of Nate Diaz, I don't really like him. I always rooted against him. And I'm pretty sure it's not a jealously thing, because that's really not my nature. I think it's because I don't like his brother Nick Diaz. I really don't like the way Nick Diaz acted in his fight with Robbie Lawler at UFC 47.

YouTube - nick diaz robert lawler

duckydan

05-09-2008, 02:13 PM

I can't really complain with the Nick Diaz fight. In reality from the looks of things he was frustrated that Lawler kept running away instead of fighting. By the middle of the first round the antics stopped once the fighting actually started.

SabreOscar

05-09-2008, 04:59 PM

Hard for me to hate on the Diaz brothers since they are some local boys in the town Ive been living in for the last two years. In fact it was the Lawler fight that made me start to like Nick.

I started watching clips of him and Nate on youtube but it wasnt till Nate was on TUF and started talking shit to Karo P (cant spell his name) that I started to like him too.

I guess Im a fan for aggressive, shit talking fighters =)

SabreOscar

05-13-2008, 04:28 PM

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Frank Mir will be next seasons coaches on the Ultimate Fighter. Who do you see winning when they finaly meet and why?

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/headlines//EkEpyFFllpzdxPjlTy.html

Adam Miller

05-13-2008, 05:43 PM

Iv known for a while who the coaches were but its only ever 100% when tis on the ufc site whichit now is. :)

Im giving it to Nog because of the competition and fights he has had. Its gonna be good though its like the havyweight jits guy from Pride fighting the heavyweightjits guy from the UFC.

Ben Rothwell and AA is now confirmed. Good for AA :)

a_correa4

05-18-2008, 08:58 AM

My Money Is On Gracie

Adam Miller

05-18-2008, 12:37 PM

My Money Is On Gracie

Which fight? :confused:

Mustkill9

05-23-2008, 05:24 PM

Saturday the 24th is the next UFC. Sherk vs Penn has the potential to be the greatest fight the UFC ever put on. There's a million dumb things that can happen to ruin it or make it a quick fight, so you never know. But I believe they have these 2 great fighters in their prime, and we might get to witness greatness.

Sherk is +185, so at a 2 to 1 underdog, I like him here, for reasons that have been discussed already. I admit that Penn deserves to be the favorite though.

Adam Miller

05-23-2008, 06:53 PM

Mustkill9

05-23-2008, 07:28 PM

This is a hard night of fights to predict ad a lot of good fight potential..the whole way through the card..i think fight of the night is gonne be eithr Wand vs Jardine or Goran Reljic and Wilson Gouviea

One of the things i am looking forward to most though is Titos after fight talk win or lose...

Also Brock Lesnar is gonna fight someone else at ufc 87 because Colemans injured (Im thinking Herring or Cain Velasquez) and added to ufc 87 is Fitch vs GSP.

That card looks awsome already when you consider Florian and Huerta is on it too. :)

Kenny Florian is overrated. Hermes Franca, who I think is one of the most underrated fighters, should beat Florian about 65% of the time. I'd say Florian loses to Huerta about 75% of the time. Florian is a nice guy, good at talking though.:)

It's in the UFC's best interest to make sure Brock Lesnar wins his next fight. He's a huge draw, if for no other reason than the whole "freak show" aspect. A Brock Lesnar that wins at least sometimes is much more profitable- and the UFC is a business at it's core. You really think it's all about the money... or the kids? Come on.

I think Machida is a bad matchup for Ortiz. Ortiz is aggressive, and Machida's fighting style starts with counterstriking. Ortiz could be in trouble here.

Jardine/Silva could go either way, but I think the x-factor is the whole "breathing through the mouth only thing" that Silva does in practice. That will screw Silva once again, if this fight lasts more than a round. I know it sounds ridiculous, I know. This new trainer Silva's got should get sued for malfeasance. That's when you're getting paid to do a job, but instead you intentionally sabotage. Like undercooking the meat on purpose at an event you're catering.

Adam Miller

05-23-2008, 07:48 PM

Kenny Florian is overrated. Hermes Franca, who I think is one of the most underrated fighters, should beat Florian about 65% of the time. I'd say Florian loses to Huerta about 75% of the time. Florian is a nice guy, good at talking though.:)

It's in the UFC's best interest to make sure Brock Lesnar wins his next fight. He's a huge draw, if for no other reason than the whole "freak show" aspect. A Brock Lesnar that wins at least sometimes is much more profitable- and the UFC is a business at it's core. You really think it's all about the money... or the kids? Come on.

I think Machida is a bad matchup for Ortiz. Ortiz is aggressive, and Machida's fighting style starts with counterstriking. Ortiz could be in trouble here.

Jardine/Silva could go either way, but I think the x-factor is the whole "breathing through the mouth only thing" that Silva does in practice. That will screw Silva once again, if this fight lasts more than a round. I know it sounds ridiculous, I know. This new trainer Silva's got should get sued for malfeasance. That's when you're getting paid to do a job, but instead you intentionally sabotage. Like undercooking the meat on purpose at an event you're catering.

I agree with you on everything yo said about Florian and the fight and him beign a good commentator..and with Lesnar but i do think he can do some things. Im nto ahuge fan by any means but i do think he looked good against Mir...for two minutes lol.

I remember you wernt a big fan of the snorkel why again? I thought it lowers oxygen in take and makes you tired quicker because you produce more lactic acid because you nto gettin enough air. I dont like Wands coach either but for a different reason....the whole stepping up at the weigh in with Chuck..

Weigh ins should be good also...with Ortiz and Penn bound to say something...and how the crowd will treat Sherk and Ortiz..Wanderleis never boring at anywhere..should be staredown tonight too...

celr831

05-23-2008, 08:11 PM

I agree with you mustkill9, Silvas new training regiment looks like it only going to make his Cardio worse. Training his body to breath through his mouth is only going to get him knocked out! I loved Silva when he was in Pride, but in the UFC the fighters are in a different class.

I'm looking forward to the Rampage/Forrest and GSP/Fitch fights.

Mustkill9

05-23-2008, 09:05 PM

I remember you wernt a big fan of the snorkel why again? I thought it lowers oxygen in take and makes you tired quicker because you produce more lactic acid because you nto gettin enough air. I dont like Wands coach either but for a different reason....the whole stepping up at the weigh in with Chuck...

I went and found the post. It's a pretty big post, but very interesting if you're interested in UFC. Here it is...

I just watched All Access with Wanderlei Silva. There is a huge, big
time problem in his training in my opinion. They are making Silva
completely plug his nose and wear a snorkel- throughout every second
of his training! Every day! Now in case you don't realize what a
problem that is already, I'm going to quote the January issue of
Men's Health. (Men's Health magazine is amazing. Based on other
things you have said, you would thank me for telling you about it
Perpetual.)

PAGE 36 CONGESTIVE SLEEP FAILURE
Don't blow off your nose. Blocked nasal passages can lead to daytime
drowsiness, states a new Japanese study. After surveying nearly 7000
adults, researchers found that those with stuffy noses were twice as
likely to nod off during the day than those who were able to breathe
freely. Here's why: When a cold, allergy, or deviated septum plugs
your proboscis, you end up breathing through your mouth when you
sleep. "The mouth isn't designed to moisten the air you breathe, and
sustained deep sleep is difficult with a dry mouth," says Neil
Bhattacharyya MD, a professor of otolaryngology at Harvard. Have your
partner check if you sleep with your mouth open. If so, see a
nose-and-throat doc.
*************************************************

The trainer in charge of the forced breathing says right on the show
"I close his nostrils making it harder to breathe. The body demands
more oxygen, but the intake is not enough to fulfill the demand. So
it will increase his lactic acid faster, and he will get more
fatigued." They go on to explain "this makes him tire quicker." Yeah,
no kidding. And he can't run as far, pick up as much weight, do as
many reps, and after his workout you probably have to scrape him off
the floor.

Now, they're going to purposely turn off Silva's nose for every
minute of his training. Who knows what subconcious and intangible bad
effects this might have, on top of messing up his workout. His body
might start naturally breathing through the mouth more, and that
would be a disaster- he'll be a prizefighter who's tired. Maybe
during the actual fight against Liddell he'll subconciously start
breathing through his mouth, because his body is used to that during
workouts.

Terrible, once again Brasilians. The other thing was- I was blown
away when Gracie was sitting there meditating all that time before
his fight with Hughes. There are all kinds of studies about pumping
yourself up before a sporting event, especially a fight (like playing
music of your own choice), and this guy Gracie is sitting there in
the dark with his team. These Brasilians must be operating on instinct, but they really need to get some science involved.

EDIT: I finished watching the All Access show. Turns out Silva also, right after he finishes his workout, he goes into a bucket full of ice water, with lots of unmelted ice. It comes up to his chin. He stays there for 2 minutes, then goes and takes a hot shower. This trainer is destroying Silva. Silva also spars with no headgear and they punch each other with boxing gloves on. No comment on that one. Maybe that's OK, I don't know.

kiwi18

05-23-2008, 09:34 PM

Well this is kind of off discussion but I would love to see Kimbo vs. Butterbean.

Adam Miller

05-23-2008, 10:56 PM

Thanks for finding the post and agree with you on the snorkel training possibly not being completely productive but as for Gracie meditating and studies showing music tht pumps you up can help i totally believe that is down to your own choice and preference..

That ice thing i thought reguvinates muscles quicker and most footballers in England use it and its at the Amida gym near me but i have never done it.

EDIT: I would also like to see Kimbo fight Butterbean because oneof them has to loose which is a good thing, on the undercard id like to see a gorilla fight a lion. :P

Mustkill9

05-24-2008, 04:40 AM

That ice thing i thought reguvinates muscles quicker and most footballers in England use it and its at the Amida gym near me but i have never done it.

Yeah, I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Silva finishes his training for the day, and then what seemed to be literally as fast as he could get to the bucket- he completely submerges himself up to his chin in ice water. You could see his face turn from red to blue in seconds. And then he stays in it. I'm just saying I can't imagine "most footballers in England" using that. But hey, tell me if they are, because I think that's pretty interesting. I'd bet that if they did a medical study of that, they would find it's bad for you, not good.

And then you take a hot shower. Why, to play with your body temperature some more? The body is supposed to be 98.6 degrees, and it doesn't vary from that number very well.

MEA7HOOK

05-24-2008, 04:51 AM

Don't want to get off-topic from ya'lls discussion, but I wanted to give everyone a heads up regarding an upcoming EliteXC event. You can get all the details here:
http://www.proelite.com/mma

It's a free televised event featuring a some solid fighters on CBS May 31st. Kimbo Slice (you've probably seen him in a street fight somewhere on the web), Robbie Lawler, and Scott Smith are just a few fighters on the card. Personally I'm looking forward Gina Carano's fight (she's "crush" from the new American Gladiators).

Edit: Just found this video if you're unfamiliar with Carano.
http://www.mmafightgirls.com/post/130/sweet-gina-carano-fight-documentary-compilation/

Adam Miller

05-24-2008, 09:46 AM

Yeah, I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Silva finishes his training for the day, and then what seemed to be literally as fast as he could get to the bucket- he completely submerges himself up to his chin in ice water. You could see his face turn from red to blue in seconds. And then he stays in it. I'm just saying I can't imagine "most footballers in England" using that. But hey, tell me if they are, because I think that's pretty interesting. I'd bet that if they did a medical study of that, they would find it's bad for you, not good.

And then you take a hot shower. Why, to play with your body temperature some more? The body is supposed to be 98.6 degrees, and it doesn't vary from that number very well.

Yeh were talking about the same thing. :)

At most football grounds in the gym they have the big recycle bin thing that Wanderlei got in in what looked like a car park yeh? It is that the ice bath thing thats what they have at the gym near me. :)

As for the elitexc event i will not be watching it live because im in the UK and wont have the channel [although i could stay up and watch it online i wont...i know Gina and she is hot...Phil Baroni is also on that card and i want James Thompson to beat Kimbo but his chin is more than questionable.

You guys might wanna know though that the first hour of the Affliction card is free for you guys and this is one of the greatest cards ever..

P.S If you didn't watch the weigh ins for ufc 84 watch the long vid and skip to Tito...:)

Method

05-24-2008, 08:28 PM

I have to say I am extremely excited for Fedor vs. Sylvia! I know it's hard to trust anything out of Fedor's camp but I am really hoping this fight pans out. Hopefully after The Last Emporer destroys the Maniac he will take more fights in the US and eventually land in the UFC!

Mustkill9

05-24-2008, 09:18 PM

Cool you got the girl from the Call On Me video. I bet no one else on this site can tell you where that picture's from. Maybe I'm wrong I don't know. I'm a dance DJ, so I know these things.

Method

05-24-2008, 09:21 PM

Cool you got the girl from the Call On Me video. I bet no one else on this site can tell you where that picture's from. Maybe I'm wrong I don't know. I'm a dance DJ, so I know these things.

Well done! Barely anyone else ever knows where that pic is from.

Adam Miller

05-24-2008, 10:47 PM

I know where the pics from and i dont know many people in real life that wouldn't that video is legendary. :)

Anyway what did you mean about not trusting anything out of Fedors camp?

You lot seen Titos shirt at the wiegh ins yet...

Just atche the Hatton fights and were all stayig up now to watch ufc THERES ONLY ONEEEEEEEEEEEE RICKY HATTONNNN.

Method

05-24-2008, 11:01 PM

I say it because Fedor has to repay the $1.5 million signing bonus to the group that formed M-1 Global in October 2007 before he is officially released from the agreement. Also it just seems like everything having to do with Fedor lately just fizzles out AKA the Golden Boy/Affliction alliance and Fedor's HDNet fight last New Years...

And yes I did see his T-Shirt. I think it's hilarious and I'm glad to see he's motivated to prove Dana wrong. Should make for a good fight.

duckydan

05-24-2008, 11:14 PM

Sad part is the side events to me are more exciting than the PPV. This is the first one I'm not ordering in a while but the card doesn't excite me that much. I like the middleweights and heavyweight fighters more... more exciting matches in my opinion.

Adam Miller

05-25-2008, 12:07 AM

I didnt mean why didnt you trust them i meant did you not trust them about do you not think the Fedor is gonna happen. It will its more than settled now. Anyway see Fedor and SYlvia on inside MMA and the Affliction press conference?

Also i think each division has there own style i do like heavies and middleweights but the lightweight are quick and active. :)

I do wanna get to see Sokoudjou and Nakamura though...

Method

05-25-2008, 02:07 AM

I did see them on Inside MMA and I'm pretty sure the fight will happen, I'm just skeptical because I want it to happen really bad and if it doesn't I don't want to feel too disappointed. Also, I think they were a little too nice to each other. I understand the respect and humble issue, but sometimes they seemed like teammates instead of guys about to fight each other.

Mustkill9

05-25-2008, 02:35 AM

I know where the pics from and i dont know many people in real life that wouldn't that video is legendary. :)

Europe is ahead of America in dance music and techno. We're more of a rap and rock and country music culture. I don't think any channel ever gives us dance music videos except for the real pop stuff like Madonna. (If someone knows a channel, let me know.) I saw the Call On Me video on the Ministry of Sound, the Annual 2005 DVD. I highly recommend it too. It's also got the videos for Satisfaction, DT8 Project-Sun is Shining, Tomcraft-Loneliness, Danzel-Pump It Up, Zombie Nation, and Boys of Summer with Yanou looking great, and other good ones too I can't remember. I don't have the CDs that come with it, they're probably worthless, but that DVD is just awesome.

I know I'm off topic but I think we can handle it.

Method

05-25-2008, 04:25 PM

Mustkill9

05-25-2008, 11:57 PM

1. First of all let me say how happy I was to see a legend like Silva win in vintage Silva fashion last night. I'm really happy we didn't have to see whether his "cardio snorkel" worked or not.

2. After last night's performance I don't think anyone in the lightweight division can beat BJ Penn. He dominated Sherk in every fasset of the game last night. There's no way that Huerta, Florian or Guida will be able to compete with the BJ Penn that fought last night.

3. For those of you who don't know Brock Lesnar's new opponent has been announced here (http://www.wrestleview.com/news2008/1211666500.shtml). It will be Heath herring and I think Brock will lose and his UFC dream will fizzle out.

That was a great UFC in my opinion. Penn did look unstoppable.

Machida used to be my least favorite fighter literally, mainly because he wouldn't talk to Joe Rogan after his fights, and I took that as having no personality. But wow, if there's one fighter who I feel like studying the style of further it's Machida. I love it!

I think Lesnar should be able to beat Herring. I expect Lesnar is an amazing MMA fighter, as long as he can avoid getting caught in cheap submissions.

Herring really should be out of the UFC now after yet another loss to Kongo, but instead, Kongo decided to wrestle with Herring. Kongo no wrestle. Kongo punch. Kongo kick. I don't know who the brainiac was who told Kongo to wrestle in that fight. Herring's post-fight comments were basically "damn, I didn't train ground game at all for this fight! That was a huge surprise!" And we all know what would have happened if they had fought standup.

Adam Miller

05-26-2008, 12:28 PM

First off that MoS DVD sounds good all classic summer tunes from a couple of years ago. :)

Im soo happy Wanderlei won and i really did not expect it but i cheered for Tito Ortiz to win a fight...love that he came out to fight the power. I just wish he could of got that triangle.

The Penn fight was amazing and could not have been better. I like that we got to see some undercard fights but i would have liked to of seen War Machine get submitted in under a minute and i would have liked to see Sokoudjous fight where apparently he leg kicked Nakamura and got a good kick at the end where he was unable to continue and he then called out Shogun :confused:

Why i have no idea maybe its a big name he thinks he could beat...

Who predicted Lesnars new opponent? Im like an insider. :p

I have also decided i don't like Thiago Silva... i dont like the cut throat thing.

PerpetualHeaven

05-26-2008, 03:53 PM

Yeah, I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Silva finishes his training for the day, and then what seemed to be literally as fast as he could get to the bucket- he completely submerges himself up to his chin in ice water. You could see his face turn from red to blue in seconds. And then he stays in it. I'm just saying I can't imagine "most footballers in England" using that. But hey, tell me if they are, because I think that's pretty interesting. I'd bet that if they did a medical study of that, they would find it's bad for you, not good.

And then you take a hot shower. Why, to play with your body temperature some more? The body is supposed to be 98.6 degrees, and it doesn't vary from that number very well.

Oh man, tons of pro athletes submerge themselves in ice. I've seen plenty of basketball and football locker rooms with steel bathtubs that have water and ice so people can jump in them. It's used for recovery purposes since they train so hard. There's actually nothing wrong with it medically since it isn't for insane amounts of time.

http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/31/bath.jpg

http://kitchenpt.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ice-bath.jpg

These guys are only waist deep in it and that's because they're using their lower body more as opposed to their upper body. It really isn't all that bad from a medical stand point. The exact mechanisms aren't understood since it hasn't been researched that deeply but it's used often in professional sports.

Anyways, I knew BJ Penn would win. His stand up is phenomenal! He was at one point the best BJJ fighter in the world but he chose to stand up. He has incredibly quick jabs and he has a chin of steel. Sherk landed a handful of solid shots and BJ was not even phased.

My boy Wanderlei. *cries* I was so happy. Jardine ate his words!

Adam Miller

05-26-2008, 04:23 PM

I didnthink the ice baths were that complicated, it was basically cooling the heart and slowing the heart rate back down quicker and heals muscles faster.

I have found the Sokoudjou fight but it doesn't show him calling out Shogun and may be removed soon.

http://www.mmatko.com/rameau-thierry-sokoudjou-vs-kazuhiro-nakamura-fight-video-ufc-84/

Mustkill9

05-26-2008, 08:17 PM

I didnthink the ice baths were that complicated, it was basically cooling the heart and slowing the heart rate back down quicker and heals muscles faster.

Yeah, I'm the guy who thought the ice baths were complicated.:) Yo, that second picture that dude looks like he's taking it.

If you check out Countdown to UFC 84, they show Penn with his boxing coach, and you can see him practicing those jabs he threw. There's no crowd noise, and he's just landing them wham! against the mitts of his trainer. They were sharp, very fast, and I can't imagine more power out of a 155 pounder. It was easier to see just how great his punches are, I was really surprised.

In case anyone doesn't realize this, Sherk is no joke. He has 32 MMA wins. And all 3 of his losses including Penn are to guys who are definitely going into the UFC hall of fame. (Penn, Hughes, and St Pierre)

I'm actually really disappointed that he lost, especially without ever adjusting the gameplan. Then again, I don't think he could beat Penn on the ground either, I'm just saying that he was getting whooped standing. But that knee at the end of the fight- Sherk, you can't bounce off the cage like that. At least do a spin move or something to avoid that knee. Maybe the blood had got in his eyes by that point. But you just can't bounce off the fence into your opponent's flying knee!

PerpetualHeaven

05-27-2008, 06:39 AM

I honestly thought Sherk had more knockout power because he is in such fabulous shape. Either that or Penn does really have a chin of steel. Honestly, Sherk tried. He honestly took so many punches to the face. What I really think he needs to do is trying to learn to finish. He's never been known to be a finisher because he relies on his cardio. I think his cardio is so fantastic that he could put way more in early and still have more in the tank than all the other guys. Sherk has the potential to beat Penn but Penn was barely challenged in my opinion. He's a special type of fighter that you have to plan for properly.

Adam Miller

05-27-2008, 10:34 AM

Yo, that second picture that dude looks like he's taking it.

Haha yeh he does and the one on the left above him looks real familiar...Roy country nelson maybe...

Sherk is still a tough fight for anyone with a great record but has he really had a lot of fights at lightweight yet? I still think he will improve and it would be good to see him train with Penn..if there anyone that can add something to Penns game its Sherk. :)

Method

05-31-2008, 09:26 PM

For those who don't know, tonight is the night! After years of government and media backlash, countless steps back and some memorably disastrous runs at the mainstream, MMA finally makes its major network debut tonight on CBS at 9:00 ET. The event will be run by Elite XC. I'm just worried that the fighters showcased won't make the best case as to how good a sport MMA is. I mean they have a YouTube Brawler (Kimbo Slice) and a UFC washout (Robbie Lawler) headlining their two main events...eeek!

On a side note, I know this is the "UFC" thread, but I assume this is the best place to discuss everything MMA related.

duckydan

06-01-2008, 02:46 AM

Kimbo is the biggest fraud on the earth. He was on the ground defenseless twice and they refused to stop the fight and then first chance they had they stopped it and named him the winner. He looked awful. 99% of the UFC would be able to take him in a fight. Even my wife was yelling at the tv at how poor his defenses were and also how poor Thompson's skills were as Kimbo was open for a thousand different submissions and he went for none of them.

This was like saying wwe is a good example of amateur wrestling to get people into it. No other comments needed.

SabreOscar

06-01-2008, 07:43 AM

Kimbo wasnt realy exposed because everyone already knew he didnt have a ground game. However, I can honestly say that he is coming along. He showed some good signs at times but when he got put up against the cage you could see that he had no clue on what to do. Also a few times he let the british guy slip right out of his guard and into side control, big no no.

Overall I was dissapointed with the card (except for the female fight). I know safety is the number one concern in MMA and its always better to error on the side of caution but I thought the first two fights were stopped to early and the stoppage of the title fight was a joke. Smith was asking for the full 5 minutes which he was aloud according to the rule book, after the 5 minutes then the doc should have made her decision.

I think Elite told the refs not to let too much punishment go since this was on National TV and didnt want it to come off as "Human Cockfighting" or "Barbaric" as some of these fags who have no clue about MMA have been saying.

All in all I dont think this did much for the "sport" of MMA but rather made thousands of more people buy into the Hype that is Kimbo Slice and increase my infatuation with the Gladiator chick =)

Mustkill9

06-01-2008, 08:21 AM

I think Elite told the refs not to let too much punishment go since this was on National TV and didnt want it to come off as "Human Cockfighting" or "Barbaric" as some of these fags who have no clue about MMA have been saying.

All through history there's been geniuses who are ahead of their times, and no one understands them. And people even make fun of them, or persecute them for their beliefs. We, the people who believe that these fights should be to the death, that certain crimes should be punishable by the torture penalty, and that we should all have global positioning chips in us... we are the people who are the modern day geniuses who are ahead of the times.

Wait I got carried away. What I meant was, let us have our freakin fights. These people who don't want to watch can go cook. Or sew. Or whatever it is these tree huggers do.

Adam Miller

06-01-2008, 12:03 PM

I was not impressed by Kimbo but i dont think it should have been stopped when Thompson was forearmslapping him but i also dontthink it should have been stop when it was.

They were both cream crackered by the end of round two....

Roll on UFC 85. :)

Oh and yeh this is the MMA thread.

Mustkill9

06-02-2008, 10:12 PM

Method

06-02-2008, 10:21 PM

Are you going to this one? You usually go when it's in England.

In my opinion I wouldn't spend the money. I am not too pleased with the card for this event. I know that every UFC cannot be as good as the last one, but I just think that the fight card for 85 isn't too interesting to me.

M85A21

06-02-2008, 10:23 PM

Me and my friends are going to his games room (Can fit about 25 people) with a load of beers and going to watch the next one on Sunday night.

Mustkill9

06-02-2008, 11:57 PM

Me and my friends are going to his games room (Can fit about 25 people) with a load of beers and going to watch the next one on Sunday night.

That sounds pretty cool! I would go to that. :)

Adam Miller

06-03-2008, 07:51 AM

Mustkill9

06-03-2008, 08:45 AM

Yes i am going as i had tickets bought for me when the Chuck Liddell/Shogun fight was on...then they canceled that fight and you cant get a refund or anything so i just had the tickets downgraded so they only cost £45 which is like $85/$90 dollars roughly. Its more of a fight night in my opinion.

UK fans might be happy to find out from now on there is no more waiting until the following night but from now on UFC is free LIVE on Setanta Sports, starting at UFC 85 and it has UFC 86 and 87. :)

At least you guys get to see your hero Michael Bisping given another easy one. Jason Day is so wack he doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry. For Bisping's last fight, they wheeled out Captain Miserable Charles McCarthy- basically the equivalent of what you or I would be in the UFC if we went to the gym every day.

Rampage's gym is getting crushed lately. His coaches are now 2-8 now on the Ultimate Fighter, they told Kongo to wrestle in his loss to Herring, and Bisping has been cold with his loss to Rashad Evans, and very controversial win over Matt Hamill. I would not want to be that short guy with the hat that trains them.

p0rtfan

06-03-2008, 09:55 AM

at last we're getiing some live coverage in the UK

Adam Miller

06-03-2008, 10:53 AM

at last we're getiing some live coverage in the UK

Well there are way of getting them live but they start at like 3 in the morning until like 6 so i dunno how its gonna work after UFC 85 where there on in the morning again because there in America, but for people like me that watch on a computer screen with like a room full of mates on less than clear quality it is great news. :)

[quote=Mustkill9;903208]At least you guys get to see your hero Michael Bisping given another easy one. Jason Day is so wack he doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry.
[quote]

That is now my new measuring stick for greatness. Do they have a wikipedia entry? lol Class. :)

I like i think i would have finished McCarthy before the end of the round when he was just blocking...and Bispin was throwing knees. It does annoy me with the UFC when they think oh well put the English guy on the card in England theyll love him...yeh its good hes English but does that make me biassss? No he lost to Hamill me and all my mates thought...going to middleweight can only be good for him though, allows him to ush the pace more. If he beats Day he might break top ten middleweight in the UFC just..

Also i think Rampage will do OK on the ultimate fighter CB i tink will get to the final and Rampage can beat Forrest..

Juanito Ibbrara is the hat guy hes the boxing coach and he is meant to be really really good.

duckydan

06-08-2008, 02:28 PM

Last nights fights were pretty bad. (Not the fights so much as the officiating...) One fight stopped when it shouldn't have been for strikes and Herb Dean cost the other guy the fight with the two penalties (although one was flagrant).

I was happy my boy Bisping won... he had me pissed after the Hammels incident but I still enjoy watching him kick ass.

Method

06-08-2008, 05:45 PM

I agree I was especially disappointed in the Vera stoppage. Personally I don't like Bisping, but I'm glad he was able to win in the place where his biggest fans are located. Last, I hope that Matt Hughes at least takes another fight and can go out with a win, I guess we'll have to see how bad the knee got messed up. At least he didn't make a lame excuse like "Thiago was overweight," not like he's that kinda guy anyway.

Adam Miller

06-14-2008, 10:41 PM

UFC Game update check this video for a prouction update at 2 minutes:

http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=19

Its being produces byTHQ as we know and dveloped by the people that did fight night and they did the PRIDE video games which are the best MMA games.

UFC 85: Dont know what to say about this event..just average got some good pics andgood to see Bisping win but i wanted Vera to also, but i agree with the stoppage. I didnt think Thiago would win though being honest...

I bet Perps glad to see Vitor back against Terry Martin on the Affliction card..and whata mad event this know is and with Donald Trump this might not be a one off..

Anyone else getting bored of waiting for Danas huge announcement...hes denied like everything now and it should be thisTuesday i bet its called off or something and i think eh was lying and it is regulation in New York which is getting delayed.

PerpetualHeaven

06-16-2008, 01:08 PM

Also i think Rampage will do OK on the ultimate fighter CB i tink will get to the final and Rampage can beat Forrest..

Did you see the end of that episode? Someone from the finale is getting kicked out and I don't know who. I'm going to assume it's probably Jesse Taylor but it could potentially be CB Dollaway. By the away, CB is the man. He's going to easily dispatch of Amir or however you spell it.

Adam Miller

06-16-2008, 04:10 PM

Did you see the end of that episode? Someone from the finale is getting kicked out and I don't know who. I'm going to assume it's probably Jesse Taylor but it could potentially be CB Dollaway. By the away, CB is the man. He's going to easily dispatch of Amir or however you spell it.

Yeh i think CB would win buti dont like him and i realy like Amir. On sherdog people have been posting threads about how its defiantely this person or that person so im not 100% but i think its CB.. on his website he invited people to come see him fight in July at some random place..

PerpetualHeaven

06-16-2008, 04:14 PM

Yeh i think CB would win buti dont like him and i realy like Amir. On sherdog people have been posting threads about how its defiantely this person or that person so im not 100% but i think its CB.. on his website he invited people to come see him fight in July at some random place..

CB isn't the kind of guy that would flip though. I mean Jesse almost got kicked off the show already. I don't know but I'm so excited for Wednesday.

Adam Miller

06-16-2008, 04:19 PM

CB isn't the kind of guy that would flip though. I mean Jesse almost got kicked off the show already. I don't know but I'm so excited for Wednesday.

Well im not gonna get to see the episode until Saturday but ill find out when you do. I think CB is a bit arrogant, do you think the limo was at the tuf house or were we seeing cctv footage of an illegal incident at another place. Also Jesse has a boy to do all this for and would he give it up after getting to the finals.

Anyone heard about the UFC putting on a rushed event on July 19th to combat against Affliction?

PerpetualHeaven

06-16-2008, 06:15 PM

Well im not gonna get to see the episode until Saturday but ill find out when you do. I think CB is a bit arrogant, do you think the limo was at the tuf house or were we seeing cctv footage of an illegal incident at another place. Also Jesse has a boy to do all this for and would he give it up after getting to the finals.

Anyone heard about the UFC putting on a rushed event on July 19th to combat against Affliction?

Yeah, Jesse does have a boy but remember when he almost kicked that one dude and he was pushed back just in time and the kick grazed that fellow? He can't control his temper. There must have been an illegal incident in the limo. Maybe it was CB but if it was, that's a shame because CB is an absolutely fantastic fighter. Remember what Griffin said though, nobody hates an egotistical guy that can actually back it up.

There is something I also want to say. The Alves vs Hugh