Official English Premiership Thread

[Deadly Moves]

Both Ronaldo and Messi are amazing players but at the moment Ronlado has the eedge over Messi..
Messi doesnt score as many goals, and he wasnt even in the champions league final.
True Messi maybe abit better at taking playes on.. but ronaldo takes players on, and scores goals.. and can head the ball.

But to be honest we cant really complaire them seen as we dont see Messi week in and week out like we see Ronaldo

[Bax x360a]

You couldn't be more correct Deadly. What's your reply to that one then Webb? ;)

[james]

Any1 think Ronaldo will leave?

He came out 2day saying he'll make his future known to public in few days

I hope he dont leave United yet he is at the best club in Europe and I think the world at the moment, I think Real Madrid would be a bad move

What you think?

[Gm Godfather]

Errrrr, he just came back from injury and every time he got the ball he made your defence look ordinary. If you can't admit that, then you're an obvious fanboy who I obviously have no time for.

LOL - At OLD TRAFFORD Messi was not good - simple, that is what I think regardless of injury or not.

When we Drew 0 - 0 in Barcelona, he was AWESOME and ran the match
for start to finish.

And NO know I am not a FANBOY - "If you don't know me, DON't judge ME".

In regards to Messi or Ronaldo - I could not say, as I find both a joy to watch - each of them have their strenghs and weakness.

Also will he or won't - Pass, but from what I hear a bid of 60 Million is due quite soon.

[Bax x360a]

In regards to Messi or Ronaldo - I could not say, as I find both a joy to watch - each of them have their strenghs and weakness.
What would Ronaldo's weaknesses be then?

I think he'll stay this season and then we'll ship him off the season after, after he's regained the Premiership and Champions League for us. By that time, Nani will be as good as him so we won't need him :)

[Ben Sharpe]

I would get rid if I am honest he is an ungrateful toerag and he deserves to go to Real and get no support from the fans

Get Benezema and Ashley Young and we would be unstopable

[Gm Godfather]

What would Ronaldo's weaknesses be then?

I think he'll stay this season and then we'll ship him off the season after, after he's regained the Premiership and Champions League for us. By that time, Nani will be as good as him so we won't need him :)

Now, this only from my point of view

After many, many years watching UN17ED and the way Sir Alex has them play, I would say the weakness for Ronaldo is his inability to track back.

Before you jump on me from a great height, yes I agree he does track a lot, but for me it is just not enough.

Take for example Andrew Cole.

When he played for Newcastle he was a straight forward striker. All you needed to do was lob the ball over the top and Cole would chase it (A bit like a Dog with a stick), but when Sir Alex got his claws into Cole he turned him into all round striker who dropped of, who came looking for the ball, who would hold the ball up and he even tracked back.

For me if Ronaldo could just add the Giggs element of tracking back, then he would almost be perfect.

Other weakness, Pens – He is so predictable, perhaps he should take a leave out the book of Dennis Irwin or Eric “Le God” Cantona.

[p0rtfan]

Dont pay too uch attention to the premier league, it all fancy players going down like nothing, and being paid whopping great amounts.....im a proper footy fan :p Blue Square North! its those looong away trips that are fun, travelling miles and miles to stand on an uncovered terrace and watch your beloved team attempt to play 'football'

[sam49]

Ummm. Ronaldo should just leave now. I think he's growing out of his ego. This is what great managers like Wenger and Ferguson are known for, when players grow out of their ego, they just sell em, but for some reason Ferguson seems stubborn on this. I think Ronaldo has indeed reached his prime and this form will continue for only 3 seasons at most.

[Ben Sharpe]

If I am honest he can only go down, there is no way he could keep getting better


And if he goes to Real he will just get worse and worse because he needs to be loved by the fans but at Real they generally don't look at what they did to the other Ronaldo

[Webb]

Both Ronaldo and Messi are amazing players but at the moment Ronlado has the eedge over Messi..
Messi doesnt score as many goals, and he wasnt even in the champions league final.
True Messi maybe abit better at taking playes on.. but ronaldo takes players on, and scores goals.. and can head the ball.

But to be honest we cant really complaire them seen as we dont see Messi week in and week out like we see Ronaldo


What the hell does the "he wasn't even in the champions league final" have to do with that? Kaka wasn't, so does that make him any worse of a player?

And Messi doesn't score goals? Can I just "lol" at that for a minute. You do realise that Messi was the second top goalscorer in the Champions League this year don't you and played fewer games than Ronaldo and considerably less minutes.

You couldn't be more correct Deadly. What's your reply to that one then Webb? ;)

I don't see what was so "correct" about the post. Care to enlighten me?

LOL - At OLD TRAFFORD Messi was not good - simple, that is what I think regardless of injury or not.

When we Drew 0 - 0 in Barcelona, he was AWESOME and ran the match
for start to finish.

And NO know I am not a FANBOY - "If you don't know me, DON't judge ME".

In regards to Messi or Ronaldo - I could not say, as I find both a joy to watch - each of them have their strenghs and weakness.



Seriously dude, everyone else cares to remember him ripping you apart except you. Let me show you ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7368730.stm

"BBC Sport Player Rater man of the match: Barcelona's Lionel Messi 7.98 (on 90 minutes)."

;)

[Yann]

I havent made the obligatory "I fucking love 'Kaka" quote yet so there it is.

I have a hard time choosing between the 3 although if I had to rank it'd be

1.Messi
2. Kaka
3. Ronaldo

(I'm gonna get so flamed by Man Utd fans)

[Gm Godfather]

Seriously dude, everyone else cares to remember him ripping you apart except you. Let me show you ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7368730.stm

"BBC Sport Player Rater man of the match: Barcelona's Lionel Messi 7.98 (on 90 minutes)."

;)

The BBC gave him a 7.98 :eek: ; if it was an 8+ I would have been worried. :woop:

A 7 rating is nothing special :drunk, I mean they gave Lampard a 7.75 in the Champion League Final when I personally feel he had an 8.15 game :p, but hey.

In my opinion and as far as I am concerned I feel it wasn’t that great, perhaps I am being harsh, but that is my choice…….:uzi:

To have so much possession and to INSPIRE the game I feel he really didn’t do too much. I will agree they had 3 – 4 chances and I do not count the chances where Andy Gray or David Pleat seem to think that the forward should grow and extra 4 feet in height to convert a chance.

To be honest it is the same with Ronaldo, when he has so much possession creates a few chances and maybe score a goal and he’ll walk away with the Man of the match award.

The problem for me is I have watched a lot Messi this season and I have come to except so much from a player who is so gifted, perhaps that is my down fall.

[Bax x360a]

Seriously dude, everyone else cares to remember him ripping you apart except you. Let me show you ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7368730.stm

"BBC Sport Player Rater man of the match: Barcelona's Lionel Messi 7.98 (on 90 minutes)."

;)
Ripped us apart but didn't score or set up a goal? That is my point right there... I don't care if he raped our defense all evening, he didn't have the ability to put it in the back of the net! And that's what matters at the end of the day. The dribbling and skills are all fancy, but who cares if they lose the game and crash out of the Champions League ;)
I havent made the obligatory "I fucking love 'Kaka" quote yet so there it is.

I have a hard time choosing between the 3 although if I had to rank it'd be

1.Messi
2. Kaka
3. Ronaldo

(I'm gonna get so flamed by Man Utd fans)
Haha. That is all.

[sam49]

Lionel Messi however has shown that he can carry over that type of form over seasons (which he has done), while Ronaldo really has had only one season playing in the excellent ranks.

[Yann]

I think Ronaldos gonna waste his potential if he goes to Real, they dont have the team united have. Although they win La Liga they're useless in the Champions league.

[Jonesy2008]

Lionel Messi however has shown that he can carry over that type of form over seasons (which he has done), while Ronaldo really has had only one season playing in the excellent ranks.

Messi has been around 3 years at the most, and yes, he has been brilliant over those 3 years, but since Ronaldo has joined United (3 Years aswell) he has been awesome. Ronaldo has many more years of greatness ahead of him, and hopefully for me (Liverpool Fan), those will be in La Liga. :)

[Yann]

Messi has been around 3 years at the most, and yes, he has been brilliant over those 3 years, but since Ronaldo has joined United (3 Years aswell) he has been awesome. Ronaldo has many more years of greatness ahead of him, and hopefully for me (Liverpool Fan), those will be in La Liga. :)

haha, well we will get direct comparisons after the 2 Barca v Madrid matches if he does move to see who's better at least.

[sam49]

I think that Ronaldo wont stay at Man Utd for longer and they know it. If not this season, then he is gonna go next season, however I think it will depend on the developement of Anderson and Nani, if they transform to 2 great players, then they might let Ronaldo go next season, if not next season then the season after that. lol.

[Bax x360a]

haha, well we will get direct comparisons after the 2 Barca v Madrid matches if he does move to see who's better at least.
No no, if Ronaldo goes then we'll sign Messi ;)
I think that Ronaldo wont stay at Man Utd for longer and they know it. If not this season, then he is gonna go next season, however I think it will depend on the developement of Anderson and Nani, if they transform to 2 great players, then they might let Ronaldo go next season, if not next season then the season after that. lol.
Good point mate, Anderson and Nani will be terrific players in a few seasons time, we won't need Ronaldo anymore. The money grabbing c*** can do one.

[Yann]

No no, if Ronaldo goes then we'll sign Messi ;)

Good point mate, Anderson and Nani will be terrific players in a few seasons time, we won't need Ronaldo anymore. The money grabbing c*** can do one.

He did say it was always his dream to play for Real Madrid before the papers started reporting those giant offers to him...

Agree'd Nani and Anderson will be shit hot in a few years time, as long as Anderson never takes a shot, he will never score a goal in his life lol.

[sam49]

I doubt Man Utd will sign Messi, and I also think that Anderson will become a great player, but Nani will be a 'meh' type player.

[Bax x360a]

He did say it was always his dream to play for Real Madrid before the papers started reporting those giant offers to him...

Agree'd Nani and Anderson will be shit hot in a few years time, as long as Anderson never takes a shot, he will never score a goal in his life lol.
He scored a pen in the Champions League Final...

[Jake1993]

I will be shocked if Ronaldo goes this season. Not so much next season. I think it all depends on what we win next season. Ronaldo does not like to lose.

[Ben Sharpe]

He did say it was always his dream to play for Real Madrid before the papers started reporting those giant offers to him...

Agree'd Nani and Anderson will be shit hot in a few years time, as long as Anderson never takes a shot, he will never score a goal in his life lol.

He scored a few screamers in his time at Porto iirc

[MopFlop]

the new fixture list are available now here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/fixtures/default.stm)

heres the opening weekend

Opening weekend - Saturday, 16 August
Arsenal v West Brom
Aston Villa v Man City
Bolton v Stoke
Chelsea v Portsmouth
Everton v Blackburn
Hull v Fulham
Man Utd v Newcastle
Middlesbrough v Tottenham
Sunderland v Liverpool
West Ham v Wigan

[Yann]

Everyone up for making a fantasy team and forming the x360a league on premierleague.com ?

Put your favourite players to the test :P

[Webb]

Is that the one where you have to make subs every week? :p

[Yann]

Is that the one where you have to make subs every week? :p

Only if they get injured or suck so bad they must be removed. I kept the same 3 defenders (Laurson, Lescott and Ferdinand) the entire season aswell as keeping Ronaldo, Torres and Young for most of it.

[Webb]

I might be game, remind me nearer the time :D

[shilbo-assassin]

i'm well up for it.
i do ok usually.

[MopFlop]

can i just say "f*** off barry we dont want you ny more"
if u want to leave y go to the press n say the club doesnt want u, when everyone at villa knows that they do. hes just a f***ing c***
cant wait to get 18m from liverpool for him

[RinconGirl]

I'm sorry if I'm cutting anyone's discussion, but I'm dying from football withdrawals :( The EURO is over and theres still another week before Liverpool's first friendly and watching MLS is like sticking forks in my eyes, most times. i know it just sounds like I'm a raving lunatic but everyone I know (Americans) could give less than 2 shits about real football.

[Bax x360a]

I'm sorry if I'm cutting anyone's discussion, but I'm dying from football withdrawals :( The EURO is over and theres still another week before Liverpool's first friendly and watching MLS is like sticking forks in my eyes, most times. i know it just sounds like I'm a raving lunatic but everyone I know (Americans) could give less than 2 shits about real football.You're a Liverpool supporter? Tut tut... You're right though, the lack of Football sucks. Its so boring without it :(

[Yann]

You're a Liverpool supporter? Tut tut... You're right though, the lack of Football sucks. Its so boring without it :(

Ah well theres always Tennis and the Tour De France for a while lol.

Transfer speculation aswell, apparently AC dont want Adebayor anymore lol.

[Deadly Moves]

Ah well theres always Tennis and the Tour De France for a while lol.

Transfer speculation aswell, apparently AC dont want Adebayor anymore lol.
Tennis is good.. But we all know who's gonna win the mens, again ;)
And the tour de france just bores me to death...

@mopflop - thats abit harsh! he wants to better his carer.. Whats wrong with that..?
He's not gonna win anything with Villa and if he plays well for Liverpool he might get more of a chance to play for his country.. Give the guy a break...

[Bax x360a]

Ah well theres always Tennis and the Tour De France for a while lol.

Transfer speculation aswell, apparently AC dont want Adebayor anymore lol. Only because his price is too expensive. I can't see how watching people cycle is exciting either.

[stephenmilne27]

adebayor had one good season and how has his value tripled, its ridiculous, y do arsenal want 35 million for him, is he as good as other people of that value? compare him to drogba,rooney,tevez,torres. i would rather those instead of adebayor!

afonso alves is the striker to have though!:woop:

come on the boro!:woop:

[II Ryan II]

I hear Cristiano Ronaldo is thinking of moving from Manchester United to Real Madrid, if they offer him the same price they did before, which i think 100 million euro

[MopFlop]

Tennis is good.. But we all know who's gonna win the mens, again ;)
And the tour de france just bores me to death...

@mopflop - thats abit harsh! he wants to better his carer.. Whats wrong with that..?
He's not gonna win anything with Villa and if he plays well for Liverpool he might get more of a chance to play for his country.. Give the guy a break...
its not when u start slaggin off the whole team and manager just becuase ur so desperate to go. just tell the manager n he will sort it out, which MON is doin. just liverpool need to pay up. but he will go.
but y go to the press?? thats what i dont get n thats what i hate

[Bax x360a]

Well well, some big events have happened lately:


Queiroz has left Manchester United and is now coaching Portugal
Crouch has joined Portsmouth for £11 million
Ronaldo is out for 3 months after having ankle surgery
Chelsea have signed every expensive and old player on the planet again

Tis a shame from a United perspective that Carlos has left :( Could this be the opening for Cantona? :eek:

£11 million for Peter Crouch, now that is a joke... I know a mate whos 6ft 6. I'm going to put him on Ebay for £10 million.

[saintyick]

Apart from speaking portugese, i never really rated him at united. I was even more scared when people were touting Quieroz as the next manager after the wizard.

Thank god he has a 3/4 year contract at portugal.

Mourinho for the next manager, i cant really see anyone else being able to take over after SAF. :)

[Bax x360a]

Ronaldo staying and Berbatov on his way. Another Double or Treble at Old Trafford next season then :D

[stephenmilne27]

Why the hell did Scott Carson move to West Brom, what a step down that is, i think that the team i support middlesbrough should have put a bid in for him because he was going for only 4 million pounds and he is a top class goalkeeper and that wound me up because at the moment we only have Brad Jones in goal, who to be fair nobody who doesn't support middlesbrough has even heard of him lmao. Oh well we will just have to go and sign Paul Robinson now!


Middlesbrough for a 5th place finish this season and an FA and League cup double woo! :woop::drunk

I CAN ONLY DREAM!

[Yann]

What the hell are liverpool doing? Barry would of made a great player for them. Now they're looking for Keane for some reason?!

Screw Keane, Torres doesnt need another striker, needs moar playmakers D:

[Bax x360a]

Why the hell did Scott Carson move to West Brom, what a step down that is, i think that the team i support middlesbrough should have put a bid in for him because he was going for only 4 million pounds and he is a top class goalkeeper and that wound me up because at the moment we only have Brad Jones in goal, who to be fair nobody who doesn't support middlesbrough has even heard of him lmao. Oh well we will just have to go and sign Paul Robinson now!


Middlesbrough for a 5th place finish this season and an FA and League cup double woo! :woop::drunk

I CAN ONLY DREAM!I thought Carson was ment to be the next best thing? Can't believe he's moved to a Championship side :eek:
What the hell are liverpool doing? Barry would of made a great player for them. Now they're looking for Keane for some reason?!

Screw Keane, Torres doesnt need another striker, needs moar playmakers D: You do need another striker to be fair. Voronin sucks, Kuyt plays more on the wing these days and Crouch has gone to Pompey. Keane is a quality player and proven goalscorer in the league so you can't blame Benitez for trying to sign him. Just shows Liverpool haven't got as much money as everyone thinks if they can't even sign Barry and Keane :D

[Yann]

lol, they have a second Striker in Gerrard though, and it seems Torres doesnt need one judging by his performance last season.

I supose, although if I had to chose between Keane and Barry, i'd choose Barry.

[Deadly Moves]

lol, they have a second Striker in Gerrard though, and it seems Torres doesnt need one judging by his performance last season.

I supose, although if I had to chose between Keane and Barry, i'd choose Barry.
Gerrard is NOT a 2nd stricker.. True, hes an awesome player.. but he's better in the midfield...

[MasonW94]

Up the Tigers! Come on you Hull!
Geovanni top scorer 08/09 season of the premier league you wait.
Hull City come 1st.

[Bax x360a]

Gerrard is NOT a 2nd stricker.. True, hes an awesome player.. but he's better in the midfield... Yep, he's good at breaking from midfield and joining in the attack. Actually playing him upfront would be hilarious, he'd suck!
Up the Tigers! Come on you Hull!
Geovanni top scorer 08/09 season of the premier league you wait.
Hull City come 1st.Who? :p

[What The Buck?]

YID ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like we're going for Arse Shaven i mean Arshavin.

Spurs are gonna win the Prem!

[Bax x360a]

YID ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like we're going for Arse Shaven i mean Arshavin.

Spurs are gonna win the Prem! Haha Arse Shaven, nice. You won't get him when clubs like Barca and Chel$ea are interested. Expect a PM when we sign Berbatov by the way :D

[WaDiNhO]

Haha Arse Shaven, nice. You won't get him when clubs like Barca and Chel are interested. Expect a PM when we sign Berbatov by the way :D
Lol, dont we all get along ;)

Watching SSN 2day arseshaven's agent has said that he would consider a move to spurs:eek:. It doesn't look like Barca will get him coz they wont go any higher than £12 million 4 him and zenit want £24 million.
What a cock, he should come to United if he wants high wages and european football.

[Ben Sharpe]

I wouldn't want him tbh, we don't need another player like that

[Bax x360a]

Lol, dont we all get along ;)

Watching SSN 2day arseshaven's agent has said that he would consider a move to spurs:eek:. It doesn't look like Barca will get him coz they wont go any higher than £12 million 4 him and zenit want £24 million.
What a cock, he should come to United if he wants high wages and european football. £24 Mil for Arshavin? :eek: What an absolute joke, he only had 2 good games! I'd pay £10 million tops.

[What The Buck?]

£24 Mil for Arshavin? :eek: What an absolute joke, he only had 2 good games! I'd pay £10 million tops.

I know, stuff him and his arse shaving antics.;)

Going off topic here but...Has anyone seen the pics of Ronaldo tanning?

Disgusting!:eek:

[WaDiNhO]

Also going off topic, I read a story in the paper about Ronaldo avin sex with some bird whilst he had that big blue boot on his leg:p:p

[Yann]

It just appeared in the news that Scloari announced that Chelsea can win the quadruple lol. I hope he becomes he next Jose Mourhinio, people may not of liked him but he was good for English Football.

[Deadly Moves]

It just appeared in the news that Scloari announced that Chelsea can win the quadruple lol. I hope he becomes he next Jose Mourhinio, people may not of liked him but he was good for English Football.
Who didnt like Mourhinio? apart from Abromavic(or however you spell it...lol)
Im a Man Utd fan and i loved Mourhinio..
He has a colourfull character like no other.. and came out with some awesome things to the press...
PLus i think he was the only manager that had any chance of giving Ferguson a run for his money...

As for Arshavin...
He had 2 good games and thats it...
He did NOTHING in Russia's final game... And thats when they needed him the most...
The only Russian's i think played well in all there games were...
Roman Pavlyuchenko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Pavlyuchenko) and Yuri Zhirkov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Zhirkov)
I would be happy to see either of those players in the Man Utd squad..

[What The Buck?]

Fuck...

Livertool are saying that they are signing Keane tomorrow.
Seriously, its like Keane is Tottenham. We're gonna miss him.

[Bax x360a]

Also going off topic, I read a story in the paper about Ronaldo avin sex with some bird whilst he had that big blue boot on his leg:p:p Haha. The guy is a sexy god! He could have 95% of women on the planet I bet.
It just appeared in the news that Scloari announced that Chelsea can win the quadruple lol. I hope he becomes he next Jose Mourhinio, people may not of liked him but he was good for English Football. Oh dear. Scolario is now officially a douchebag.
Fuck...

Livertool are saying that they are signing Keane tomorrow.
Seriously, its like Keane is Tottenham. We're gonna miss him. I thought Keane "loved" Spurs? So much for loyalty these days.

[WaDiNhO]

Well, Robbie Keane has now officially signed for Liverpool for around about £18million and EL Hadj Diouf has gone to Sunderland, wdf?!?

[What The Buck?]

Haha. The guy is a sexy god! He could have 95% of women on the planet I bet.
Oh dear. Scolario is now officially a douchebag.
I thought Keane "loved" Spurs? So much for loyalty these days.

There is no loyalty Bax, only money.

[Yann]

There is no loyalty Bax, only money.

I never understood that, theres wanting to advance your football skills and wanting to win trophys. But if you're already getting £100,000 a month (see Ronaldo) why would you want to leave the best club in the world (Or at least one of the best) to join a lesser team for more money :S.

[What The Buck?]

I never understood that, theres wanting to advance your football skills and wanting to win trophys. But if you're already getting £100,000 a month (see Ronaldo) why would you want to leave the best club in the world (Or at least one of the best) to join a lesser team for more money :S.

I know, its weird.

Keane has officially moved to ANALfield now...i'm not gonna lie, i'm pissed. I really didn't want Keane to go and even though i've known that he was supposed to be going i'm still shocked. For some reason i just can't imagine Spurs without Keane. :(

The 20M will be nice though. :p

[Deadly Moves]

I know, its weird.

Keane has officially moved to ANALfield now...i'm not gonna lie, i'm pissed. I really didn't want Keane to go and even though i've known that he was supposed to be going i'm still shocked. For some reason i just can't imagine Spurs without Keane. :(
Whats Spurs gonna do without Defoe and now Keane? Struggle?

[What The Buck?]

Whats Spurs gonna do without Defoe and now Keane? Struggle?

WE WILL NEVER STRUGGLE! :p

Defoe is shit.

Plus, i think we already bought a new striker. But Keane will still be a big loss.

[Deadly Moves]

WE WILL NEVER STRUGGLE! :p

Defoe is shit.

Plus, i think we already bought a new striker. But Keane will still be a big loss.
True Defoe wasnt anything special.. But he wasnt shit...
And when i say struggle i dont mean relegation struggle, just struggle to get into europe...

[Yann]

Whats Spurs gonna do without Defoe and now Keane? Struggle?

Where did Defoe go?

I may be living in Liverpool in 2 months time for Uni so i'm gonna want to see some Champions league matches so i'm all for these new signings lol. I still think they should of got Barry over Keane.

[What The Buck?]

True Defoe wasnt anything special.. But he wasnt shit...
And when i say struggle i dont mean relegation struggle, just struggle to get into europe...


Possibly...

But i think we can do it. :)

EDIT: @ Yann: He went to Portsmouth ages ago.

[Yann]

Possibly...

But i think we can do it. :)

EDIT: @ Yann: He went to Portsmouth ages ago.

OOo right, well as long as he doesnt steal Crouch's goals i'm fine with it lol.

[What The Buck?]

OOo right, well as long as he doesnt steal Crouch's goals i'm fine with it lol.

Haha, i doubt that'll happen.

Heres a pic of Keane with Benitez:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00541/keane1_682x400_541402a.jpg

[Bax x360a]

There is no loyalty Bax, only money. Only seems to be loyalty at Utd these days with Giggs, Scholes and Neville. Everybody else just wants the money. Disgusting in my opinion. I would play for Utd for free if I was offered.
I know, its weird.

Keane has officially moved to ANALfield now...i'm not gonna lie, i'm pissed. I really didn't want Keane to go and even though i've known that he was supposed to be going i'm still shocked. For some reason i just can't imagine Spurs without Keane. :(

The 20M will be nice though. :p Haha ANALfield, nice. You definitely need to buy another striker now or you will struggle big time. 2 strikers needed if Berby comes to Old Trafford aswell. You've also lost Chimbonda and Kaboul, so you'll need a few defenders.

[Pirate Luke]

Now spurs have lost keane i hope there will be no talk of "yeah we will get 4th this year" because its crap, they may have been close a few years ago when arsenal pipped them to it on final day ( :D ) but each year we hear the same stuff and where did they finish last year? 11th? sorry but they cant win games in uefa cup so in champions league they would have no chance. Spurs will defo struggle without keane, although Moderic is good.

[What The Buck?]

Now spurs have lost keane i hope there will be no talk of "yeah we will get 4th this year" because its crap, they may have been close a few years ago when arsenal pipped them to it on final day ( :D ) but each year we hear the same stuff and where did they finish last year? 11th? sorry but they cant win games in uefa cup so in champions league they would have no chance. Spurs will defo struggle without keane, although Moderic is good.

I respect your opinion.

Last season we finished 11th because, i don't know if you remember, we had Martin Jol who had no clue what he was doing for some reason, causing us to lose games...then we got Juande Ramos who won us the Carling cup and got us nearly into the top 10, which i would say in the short amount of time he had, was a great accomplishment.

Imagine what could happen now that he is used to the club.

4th place anyone? :p:p:p

[LFC2K6]

Glad to see Keano wearing the red, i've been a long time admirer & was shocked when we were actually linked to him. i was fast loosing faith in benitez (rotation + ..... barry?!) however the signing of keano pleases me(though i predict we will steal spurs chants for him) keano being signed leaves me with some optimism for this year. i cant see either trophy leaving old trafford (sigh) however i look forward to some form of challenge. looking down the table to see who could challenge for 4th only everton have near the quality needed (jaoa moutinho is a great signing if they pull it off). looking to relegation the only thing i see happening is all 3 new boys going straight back where they came from as they only scraped out of that division. my predictions for the league are as follows(i put "/" as it will be close, tho the name i put first is the one i expect most....
1. Manchester Utd
2. Chelsea/Liverpool/Arsenal
3. Liverpool/Chelsea/Arsenal
4. Arsenal/Liverpool(Everton maybe)
5. Everton
6. Tottenham/Manchester City

[Pirate Luke]

4th place anyone? :p:p:p

Lol that made me laugh, guess you wont care when i say ive just got a ticket to Arsenals first game of the season vs West brom! lol

But is it just me or has the transfer market been really slow this year? Like there is loads of rumours but nothing ever gets done Ronaldo,Barry,Arshavin,Adebayor,Lampard,Drogba have all been linked with moves away for like 2 months now and bugger all has happend! Keanes move yesterday is probably the biggest move so far this summer.

[What The Buck?]

Lol that made me laugh, guess you wont care when i say ive just got a ticket to Arsenals first game of the season vs West brom! lol

But is it just me or has the transfer market been really slow this year? Like there is loads of rumours but nothing ever gets done Ronaldo,Barry,Arshavin,Adebayor,Lampard,Drogba have all been linked with moves away for like 2 months now and bugger all has happend! Keanes move yesterday is probably the biggest move so far this summer.

Yeh, it has been kinda slow.

I'm just hoping Berbatov doesn't leave us. :p

[Yann]

I watched the Scouserpool v Villafake match today. Keane looked well but didnt score, same with Torres who came on in the 72nd minute. They'll probably improve hopefully

[LFC2K6]

I watched the Scouserpool v Villafake match today. Keane looked well but didnt score, same with Torres who came on in the 72nd minute. They'll probably improve hopefully

Was the first time Keane had seen anyone in the team since he signed and, was Torres' first game since Euro 08 final. So below par performances to be expected, however these games are only fitness excercises and chances for youth to prove themselves.
Stephen Darby, Damien Plessis and Danni Pacheco have impressed greatly over pre season and will probably play in the Carling Cup or against the likes of Hull, Stoke or WBA. Too soon for first team for them. Pacheco looks to be a star of the future, however is immature on the ball at the mo' . . . all in all the Liverpool youth team looks good for once :woop:

[xborg7]

Nice discussion here, I'm a Red Devil.. and I think we should definitely sign Huntelaar or Berbatov. I don't want too many changes since we pulled the double last season and don't need much changes, but it would be nice if we got some good strikers.

I really hope Ronaldo stays, despite him being really "stupid" at the moment.

[shilbo-assassin]

we have to sign berb, he would complete our side and ronaldo is goin nowhere now

[Bax x360a]

Nice discussion here, I'm a Red Devil.. and I think we should definitely sign Huntelaar or Berbatov. I don't want too many changes since we pulled the double last season and don't need much changes, but it would be nice if we got some good strikers.

I really hope Ronaldo stays, despite him being really "stupid" at the moment. Totally agree with that.

Bentley is a great signing for Spurs. They seem to be putting together a quality team now. If Berbatov stays (hopefully not), they get Arshavin and another striker, then I can see them breaking into the top 4 this coming season.

[Webb]

Only seems to be loyalty at Utd these days with Giggs, Scholes and Neville. Everybody else just wants the money.

Are you kidding dude? I swear you have those tinted goggles on again :p You fail to miss Gerrard, Carragher and Hypia that are still at Liverpool. Bias much? :biglaugh

[Xterm1n8or]

Henry to United would be good, doubt it will happen though. I hope Ronaldo goes personally, yes I used to think he was the best thing since sliced bread, but no player is bigger than Utd. Get Berbatov and Huntelaar in and it will be "Ronaldo who?".

This is a guy who comes from Portugal, who apparently grew up with "nothing", you would think he would be happy earning ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS a WEEK wouldn't you? Sheesh.

[xborg7]

Henry to United would be perfect, but I doubt it will ever happen. Imagine the look on the Gunner's faces.. hahaha classic.

[Yann]

Henry to United would be perfect, but I doubt it will ever happen. Imagine the look on the Gunner's faces.. hahaha classic.

Do they really need Berba? Tevez and Rooney do alot. Same with Ronaldo when he goes on one of his insane runs.

Blackburn is gonna get decimated this season I think, they've sold Bently, who set up alot of Santa Cruz goals :S. I'm liking what Tottenham is doing lol.

[xborg7]

Yeah Tottenham got Dos Santos didn't they?

Gonna be good, but United have some tough competition early on..

Is there an official Manchester United thread?

[What The Buck?]

Yeah Tottenham got Dos Santos didn't they?

Gonna be good, but United have some tough competition early on..

Is there an official Manchester United thread?

Nah, Man U suck they don't deserve a thread. :p

Heres a pic of our new signings:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00542/modric_682x400_542010a.jpg

And we got rid of Malwank, God damn, i keep making these name mistakes.

We got rid of Malbranque.:p

[xborg7]

=\
Double Champions don't deserve a thread? There's your mistake. ;)

[UK Mylo]

Can't see Man U ever signing Berbatov, he's a Diva and Ferguson won't stand for it, he never has (Sharpe, Ince, Beckham etc),. IMO Berbatov is slightly overrated and spurs should cash in now, 25-30M for a 27 year old is good business considering Arsenal sold Henry for just 16M and he was 29 (And IMO Henry WAS (not is) a better player than Berbatov). Spurs signed Bentley this week for about 5M more than he's worth, he's a good player but not a great one. He's still young but if he was going to shine, he would have by now. He's a good signing for the Spurs midlfield but IN NO WAY a rep for Keane. Keane was awesome (Wolves fan here) and reads the game in the 6 yard area better than most forwards, and unlike Owen no-one has really noticed that Keane has lost some of his pace as he has developed his game past the hit-n-run days of his youth. If Keane was English (or any other Nationality for matter), he would be in the first 11 everytime. As for "Dos Santos", he's young and completely unproven in the EPL, I can't see him doing a "Torres" and blowing everybody away in his 1st season.

As for Ronaldo, I'd have sold him right after the CL final, if Real wanna pay stupid money for him then Manu should have cashed in, after the things he said during Euro 2008 I can't see how the OT crowd can ever get behind him again. He basically said that if he could leave ManU right now, he would. All Ron will do this season is play average football and basically force ManU to off-load him in Jan or the TEONS for what Real wanna pay. MAnU should have called Real's bluff and said they can have Ron for £50m, no-less, that way if they don't stump up, then everyone would see that they don't really want buy him, they just want to unsettle him and the ManU dressing room and play at being "Big-time-Charlie's". In the unlikely event they actually did stump up the cash, I'd have gone straight for Messi, in the CL:SF (Both legs) he stood head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch (especially Ron, who once again went missing big time). Messi would probably cost Manu 30-40M easy, but with the state of Barcelona at the minute, they would get him, who wouldn't want to play for the current CL Champions? (Other than Ronaldo of course!) The real star at Manu is Tevez, he works ten times harder than most players in his position and he has ten times the technical ability aswell, if he linked up with Messi week-in-week-out, it would be awesome.

(Think thats enough for now...)

[Bax x360a]

Good post Mylo. I would gladly swap Ronaldo for Messi. Couldn't see Messi coming here though. The whole Berbatov deal seems to have died off aswell, so I hope we go for Benzema or Huntelaar; both young, quality players.

Henry to United would be perfect, but I doubt it will ever happen. Imagine the look on the Gunner's faces.. hahaha classic. Henry? Seriously? I would be majorly pissed if we signed Henry, he is WAY past his best and only getting worse.
Do they really need Berba? Tevez and Rooney do alot. Same with Ronaldo when he goes on one of his insane runs. Yes we do, because if either of them gets injured, we're fooked.

[Deadly Moves]

Good post Mylo. I would gladly swap Ronaldo for Messi. Couldn't see Messi coming here though. The whole Berbatov deal seems to have died off aswell, so I hope we go for Benzema or Huntelaar; both young, quality players.

Henry? Seriously? I would be majorly pissed if we signed Henry, he is WAY past his best and only getting worse.
Yes we do, because if either of them gets injured, we're fooked.
I wouldnt swap Messi for Ronaldo! I dont think Messi could handle it in the premiership...

And Benzema and Huntelaar would both be good signings..
but i'd like to see Yuri Zhirkov in a man u shirt...
He was consistantly good in the euros and would be a good replacement for ol gary neville

[xborg7]

A Messi and Tevez partnership would look insane, but I feel sorry for Rooney, he was played in the wrong position, according to SAF, and SAF took the blame for it. Ronaldo out for the first few months of the EPL, I think Rooney will shine! ;)

[Bax x360a]

Ronaldo out for the first few months of the EPL, I think Rooney will shine! ;) I bloody hope so! Somebody needs to. I'm getting worried about us not signing anyone :(

[xborg7]

Yeah, Rooney better step it up. It's his anger that's getting in the way. When he plays freely, (like nothing to lose, like the pre-season games), he plays well and you can really see his confidence. I really like the Rooney/Tevez partnership as well.

:)

[What The Buck?]

I bloody hope so! Somebody needs to. I'm getting worried about us not signing anyone :(

Don't worry Bax.

You WILL get Berbatov...NOT!!! :woop::p

[Yann]

I bloody hope so! Somebody needs to. I'm getting worried about us not signing anyone :(

lol, I'm sure Ferguson is wandering around not knowing what to do without Queiroz.

[WaDiNhO]

Why do some people want Benzema to come to United, he's absolute shite, both in the euro's and in Ligue 1. We do need a striker, but not him. Huntelaar would be good, as would Berbatov, I also think that David Villa would be a good signing, Liverpool seem to be losing interest now that they've got Keane, and Valencia aren't that great. Messi though, it would be fantastic if we got him, he can play either side of midfield and even up front. I also think we should try and get Daniel Alves to replace Neville, Browns good but I feel Alves would be better.

[Bax x360a]

Don't worry Bax.

You WILL get Berbatov...NOT!!! :woop::p Ha, I'd prefer Benzema or Huntelaar anyway.
Why do some people want Benzema to come to United, he's absolute shite, both in the euro's and in Ligue 1. We do need a striker, but not him. Huntelaar would be good, as would Berbatov, I also think that David Villa would be a good signing, Liverpool seem to be losing interest now that they've got Keane, and Valencia aren't that great. Messi though, it would be fantastic if we got him, he can play either side of midfield and even up front. I also think we should try and get Daniel Alves to replace Neville, Browns good but I feel Alves would be better. Benzema is quality. You can't judge him on 3 games from Euro 2008. Ronaldo was gash in the Euros aswell and he's the best player in the world. Neville and Brown are more than adequate at right back, and we've got O'shea to cover if needed aswell so Alves would be pointless; for the money they'd want for him anyway. I'd be happy with us signed either Benzema or Huntelaar. We need one striker anyway, and time is ticking on...

[Yann]

Got a good link here showing the transfer news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7492070.stm

Bax will notice that under Man Utd

Ins: None.

[Deadly Moves]

Ha, I'd prefer Benzema or Huntelaar anyway.
Benzema is quality. You can't judge him on 3 games from Euro 2008. Ronaldo was gash in the Euros aswell and he's the best player in the world. Neville and Brown are more than adequate at right back, and we've got O'shea to cover if needed aswell so Alves would be pointless; for the money they'd want for him anyway. I'd be happy with us signed either Benzema or Huntelaar. We need one striker anyway, and time is ticking on...
Don't forget that we could also play Hargreaves or Carrick in right back if needed..

@ Yann - Double Champions!!! do we really need any new blood to mess up a winning formular?
Not really IMO

[Yann]

Don't forget that we could also play Hargreaves or Carrick in right back if needed..

@ Yann - Double Champions!!! do we really need any new blood to mess up a winning formular?
Not really IMO


Lol like Bax says, if Tevez or Rooney get injured you're going to have a hard time.

Also some players might not recapture their form and its good to have a back up. Look what happened to Lehman at Arsenal.

[Deadly Moves]

Lol like Bax says, if Tevez or Rooney get injured you're going to have a hard time.

Also some players might not recapture their form and its good to have a back up. Look what happened to Lehman at Arsenal.
I dont quite get what your saying about Lemon .. 'cough cough' Lehman
He sucks and always has..
true he has had a few good games.. but that doesnt make up for the amount of bad games

[Yann]

I dont quite get what your saying about Lemon .. 'cough cough' Lehman
He sucks and always has..
true he has had a few good games.. but that doesnt make up for the amount of bad games


I perfer Lolman, but it was an example lol.

If Rooney breaks his foot again or Tevez gets Eduardo'd you might find yourselves in trouble.

[Deadly Moves]

I perfer Lolman, but it was an example lol.

If Rooney breaks his foot again or Tevez gets Eduardo'd you might find yourselves in trouble.
lol.. I like to call him lemon, bcos he is one...lol

Anyway.. back to our topic
thats true, but things like that hapen very rarely...
A top class backup would be nice.. but i think would could manage

[WaDiNhO]

According to our wondeful national media, fergie is considering using Fraizer Campbell as our backup striker :O

[xborg7]

Looks like we're not getting Huntelaar. :(

Apparently Marco Van Basten said Huntelaar will not be leaving Ajax this summer, hopefully just a rumour because I haven't seen quotes yet.

Also, Van der Vaart joins Madrid. Maybe that'll stop them from going after Ronaldo, but Sneijder is injured now.

[Bax x360a]

lol.. I like to call him lemon, bcos he is one...lol

Anyway.. back to our topic
thats true, but things like that hapen very rarely...
A top class backup would be nice.. but i think would could manageNot exactly rare... Rooney's broken his Metatarsel twice in two years now...
According to our wondeful national media, fergie is considering using Fraizer Campbell as our backup striker :O Oh shit... Enough said.
Looks like we're not getting Huntelaar. :(

Apparently Marco Van Basten said Huntelaar will not be leaving Ajax this summer, hopefully just a rumour because I haven't seen quotes yet.

Also, Van der Vaart joins Madrid. Maybe that'll stop them from going after Ronaldo, but Sneijder is injured now. Managers say that all the time. Fergie's said that about Ronaldo, but he'll probably still end up going.

[What The Buck?]

Sorry to inform you Man U fans but Rooney is out for the start of season! :D

Source - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1517310.ece

Plus, Spurs are looking to buy David Villa and sell Berbatov to United for 30M.

Source - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1514258.ece

[WaDiNhO]

Sorry to inform you Man U fans but Rooney is out for the start of season! :D

Source - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1517310.ece

Plus, Spurs are looking to buy David Villa and sell Berbatov to United for 30M.

Source - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1514258.ece
Oh fuck a duck, we really do need to get Berbatov if that is the case, unless fergie chooses to use Tevez as a lon striker, but I dont think that will work.

[Yann]

Oh fuck a duck, we really do need to get Berbatov if that is the case, unless fergie chooses to use Tevez as a lon striker, but I dont think that will work.

Tevez saved united so many times its unreal. He'd be a good lone striker lol. Then again Ronaldo is out for a while so you might struggle.

[Xterm1n8or]

Rooney will only be out of the first game of the season against the toon, so no biggie. :p

[Yann]

Rooney will only be out of the first game of the season against the toon, so no biggie. :p

Charity Shield aswell. Chelsea might destory them.

[Bax x360a]

Chelseas aren't going to destroy us just because we haven't got Rooney and Ronaldo... Saha might be fit for once, plus chuck the next living legend Nani on the right and all is good. Plus, Ronaldo is 100% staying at Old Trafford now according to Fergie :D

Sucks that our 2 best players are injured though. Not having alot of luck at the moment; lets hope that doesn't carry on during the actual season.

We kick off in 5 minutes agains't Juventus aswell. Will be a good test to see how we are without the two R's.

[Yann]

Chelseas aren't going to destroy us just because we haven't got Rooney and Ronaldo... Saha might be fit for once, plus chuck the next living legend Nani on the right and all is good. Plus, Ronaldo is 100% staying at Old Trafford now according to Fergie :D

Sucks that our 2 best players are injured though. Not having alot of luck at the moment; lets hope that doesn't carry on during the actual season.

We kick off in 5 minutes agains't Juventus aswell. Will be a good test to see how we are without the two R's.

Who won? Also I lol'd at Ronaldos apology. Ferguson must of threatened to murder his family if he didnt say sorry.

[WaDiNhO]

Who won? Also I lol'd at Ronaldos apology. Ferguson must of threatened to murder his family if he didnt say sorry.
Lmao:p
Btw it finished 0-0

[xborg7]

Yessss Ronaldo finally made up his mind. This was sort of like the FIFA 06 WC, where he came back from the summer with tons of people hating on him.

I hope a lot of the United fans will support him, he's a RED.

[Bax x360a]

He's barely a red, his heart isn't in it. I've lost alot of respect for him now. However, I'm sure I'll love the guy again when he starts winning us matches.

[WaDiNhO]

He's barely a red, his heart isn't in it. I've lost alot of respect for him now. However, I'm sure I'll love the guy again when he starts winning us matches.
I second that:p

[Bax x360a]

Woohoo I've got a ticket for the Community Shiled match at Wembley on Sunday :D I'm actually quite worried though seeing we haven't got Rooney, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani etc... I'm sitting in the Pompey end aswell :( So I'll get cained by my mate if we lose :p

[Yann]

Woohoo I've got a ticket for the Community Shiled match at Wembley on Sunday :D I'm actually quite worried though seeing we haven't got Rooney, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani etc... I'm sitting in the Pompey end aswell :( So I'll get cained by my mate if we lose :p

Lol Congrats Bax. I'll look for your grieve stricken face when they pan across the united fans once CROUCH gets his third goal lol.

Only joking, Hope you have fun lol.

[xborg7]

Lucky man!

UNITED all the way, if it's a community shield or not, it's still something.

[LFC2K6]

I hope Crouch scores lol, shame he left but we got Keane so i wont complain. This seems to be a Man Utd dominated thread...any Liverpool fans? lol. I look forward to some form of challenge this year (maybe even to december this time!!!) as long as Chelsea go trophy-less its all good, cant stand the "I BUY IT" attitude...or the fans for that matter, Man Utd 2-1 Pompey, Crouchy to score! methinks.

[Yann]

I hope Crouch scores lol, shame he left but we got Keane so i wont complain. This seems to be a Man Utd dominated thread...any Liverpool fans? lol. I look forward to some form of challenge this year (maybe even to december this time!!!) as long as Chelsea go trophy-less its all good, cant stand the "I BUY IT" attitude...or the fans for that matter, Man Utd 2-1 Pompey, Crouchy to score! methinks.

I sort of am. I may end up living there in a months time so i'll need to consider my options after that lol.

[xborg7]

Is anyone watching the Community Shield right now, it's in the 81st minute, could go to penalties..

[WaDiNhO]

Woop woop community shield is ours, and if I may add, Portsmouth are shit at penalties.

[xborg7]

Very shit, 2 misses that were completely off. :O

I actually thought James would save one.

[UK Mylo]

THB It was always gonna go to Utd, they have a knack of always getting what they need, but I'll say one thing right now, Utd need a goalscoring CF, badly.

They can't keep relying on the old guard to keep coming up with goods. If Giggs, Scholes, etc don't chip in when other players are missing, things could get difficult, and considering the position Utd are in at mo (European Champs, EPL Champs, So they MUST have money to spend on transfers), someone could be left with egg on his face (SAF!).

[xborg7]

Indeed, we need a striker. Tevez worked really hard today but produced no goal, maybe because James played brilliantly? But still, Tevez showed up last season when we needed him most, he scored all of our "last minute" goals.

We need Huntelaar, or Berbatov, now.

[LFC2K6]

I sort of am. I may end up living there in a months time so i'll need to consider my options after that lol.

I'll call you a Liverpool enthusiast lol, where are you thinking of/being forced to move to?

[Bax x360a]

Tevez = God. What a player! That run where he did 4 pompey players was pure genius. It was so hard not celebrate in front of all the pompey fans at Wembley... I just stood there with a huge grin on my face :D

[Yann]

I'll call you a Liverpool enthusiast lol, where are you thinking of/being forced to move to?

I may be attending John Moores University to study Pharmacy which will obviously force me to move to England etc. But that depends on what my results on THursday show me D:

THat and i'd of course go to a few Champions league games that Liverpool play, Students sit around for 90% of their day so I guess I may aswell do it at Anfield lol.

[LFC2K6]

I may be attending John Moores University to study Pharmacy which will obviously force me to move to England etc. But that depends on what my results on THursday show me D:

THat and i'd of course go to a few Champions league games that Liverpool play, Students sit around for 90% of their day so I guess I may aswell do it at Anfield lol.


Tbh, other than derby day, nothing beats a european night at home, i'm sure utd fans agree. The atmosphere at anfield at least, is electric. I'd suggest brushing up on your LFC songs before going a UEFA or derby game, tho that's if you actually get tickets lol.

[xborg7]

Tevez = God. What a player! That run where he did 4 pompey players was pure genius. It was so hard not celebrate in front of all the pompey fans at Wembley... I just stood there with a huge grin on my face :D

Did you hold up one of those "respect" pieces?

[Yann]

Tbh, other than derby day, nothing beats a european night at home, i'm sure utd fans agree. The atmosphere at anfield at least, is electric. I'd suggest brushing up on your LFC songs before going a UEFA or derby game, tho that's if you actually get tickets lol.

With my luck i'll end up wandering into a everton supporters club with a Liverpool shirt on lol.

[LFC2K6]

With my luck i'll end up wandering into a everton supporters club with a Liverpool shirt on lol.

Stick with the biggest looking fella you can find who's wearing a Liverpool shirt, use him as a shield when you walk in :D lol

[Yann]

Fantasy Premier League stuff is up. You guys better make it fast before the start of the season.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ (http://fantasy.premierleague.com/)

[LFC2K6]

Fantasy Premier League stuff is up. You guys better make it fast before the start of the season.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ (http://fantasy.premierleague.com/)

Is there gunna be an X360a Fantasy Football League going on? i'd be interested like...

[What The Buck?]

Looks like Berba's going to United in the next 48 hours.

Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1551136.ece

[xborg7]

Not much direct quotes saying he's leaving, but oh well. I really wish we could have had Huntelaar or David Villa instead, but nothing is final yet.

[Bax x360a]

Did you hold up one of those "respect" pieces? Unfortunately not, I was sitting on one of the sides instead of the ends. It only actually realised what the word said when I saw it on the big screen :p
Fantasy Premier League stuff is up. You guys better make it fast before the start of the season.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ (http://fantasy.premierleague.com/)I'm going to wait until all the signings have been made before making my team and joining up.
Looks like Berba's going to United in the next 48 hours.

Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1551136.eceThesun.co.uk. Enough said. Never believe anything from the newspapers. Plus, I'd prefer us to sign Benzema or Huntelaar rather than Berba.

[Yann]

Is there gunna be an X360a Fantasy Football League going on? i'd be interested like...

Yeah I hope so, going to need to see who wants to join though/

On another note, Liverpool were so crap tonight!

[What The Buck?]

Not much direct quotes saying he's leaving, but oh well. I really wish we could have had Huntelaar or David Villa instead, but nothing is final yet.

Yeh, Tottenham might be getting Villa.

But i highly doubt it.

[xborg7]

Villa is amazing, same with Huntelaar. Villa is so aggressive for the ball, imagine him and Rooney playing together! ;)

[LFC2K6]

Yeah I hope so, going to need to see who wants to join though/

On another note, Liverpool were so crap tonight!

I know, I blame rafa for a lack of bringing in a "Desequilibrante" he may have brought in Keane (which i'm very pleased with) but if we stop spending now/buy Gareth Barry, I see a repeat of last season, with Spurs/Villa catching up, links to Joe Cole in the papers worry me further, however that would be a step in the right direction. Sources close to Rafa say he has close to £25m left to spend this summer(his last summer here?) so lets hope he brings in a "Desequilibrante" with that...I'd even take Quaresma!

[stephenmilne27]

Plus, I'd prefer us to sign Benzema or Huntelaar rather than Berba.


If i'm honest i you would be better off signing Huntelaar. Benzema is over rated. Look how he did in the Euro's up against real defenders instead of the French league which we all know is below average.

[Bax x360a]

If i'm honest i you would be better off signing Huntelaar. Benzema is over rated. Look how he did in the Euro's up against real defenders instead of the French league which we all know is below average. You can't say that, even Ronaldo was crap in the Euro's.

[stephenmilne27]

Fair Point but he needs to prove himself in big league

[UK Mylo]

Everything I've read about Villa basically says that if he does move club, it will be for another Spanish side. Also, ain't no-way Spurs are gonna sign Villa.

Huntelaar, I think he could do well at Utd but beware, he has an ipressive record in the Eredivisie, but so did Kuyt, and look how he turned out goal-wise. Also, I agree with Stephenmilne27, Benzema is hugely overrated IMO and the quality of Ligue 1 is still pretty low when compared to EPL, La Liga & Serie A.

TBH, I think Utd have left it to too late to bring in any major signings, and what would concern me more is the Vacant coaches position, people underestimate just how good Quieroz was. Utd will miss him, no doubt about that.

BTW - I've said before, and I'll say again, Utd aint gonna sign Berbatov, he's far too highly strung for Fergie to put up with.

[What The Buck?]

Last night, Berbatov put in a transfer request to go to United.

But us Spurs want 30M...

[MattSpilly]

Last night, Berbatov put in a transfer request to go to United.

But us Spurs want 30M...

No way is Berba worth 30million.

At this rate I can see Frazier Campbell playing more first team football =x.

[stephenmilne27]

few good results came up in today's games. Hull winning, blackburn beating everton in ince's first game and Middlesbrough beating spurs.

Cmon the BORO! lol

also berbatov sat out that game which proves he might be going to United because ferguson suggested that something might happen in the next 2 days.

[UK Mylo]

few good results came up in today's games. Hull winning, blackburn beating everton in ince's first game and Middlesbrough beating spurs.

As a Wolves fan, I always thought we made a huge mistake letting Ince leave. He wanted to manage the club and said he could but we didn't have faith, in hind sight seeing what good a job he's done elsewhere, it was a mistake. Now he's in the Prem, he aint never coming back (even though he said he would!), eitherway I wish him all the best and will defo be supporting Blackburn this season. The guy is complete quality and has the ability to lead and motive players (always a sign of a great manager). Blackburn WILL do well under Ince.

[Bax x360a]

No way is Berba worth 30million.

At this rate I can see Frazier Campbell playing more first team football =x.No way is Berba worth 30 mil, however I'd love to have him at Old Trafford.
few good results came up in today's games. Hull winning, blackburn beating everton in ince's first game and Middlesbrough beating spurs.

Cmon the BORO! lol

also berbatov sat out that game which proves he might be going to United because ferguson suggested that something might happen in the next 2 days. Great wins for Blackburn and Hull, can't see them having great seasons though... It looks like Fulham will struggle aswell this season.

By the way, Berbatov did play, he came on in the 2nd half, and apparently Spurs played ALOT better with him on the pitch.

[xborg7]

Fulham is going to get raped and relegated, Hull will stay up maybe.

Can't wait for United to put another 6 past Newcastle. :)

[Gm Godfather]

Last night, Berbatov put in a transfer request to go to United.

But us Spurs want 30M...

The price will be 25M to 28M.

He is 27 and I firmly feel he could fill the boots of Van the Man.

Question is will Fergie be able to get his man as Spurs are trying to offloand Berbatov to Barcelona for 20 Million, which could pave the way for that French T****R Henry to go to United.

Should be a few intresting days to go on the transfer market.

[Gm Godfather]

I hope Crouch scores lol, shame he left but we got Keane so i wont complain. This seems to be a Man Utd dominated thread...any Liverpool fans? lol. I look forward to some form of challenge this year (maybe even to december this time!!!) as long as Chelsea go trophy-less its all good, cant stand the "I BUY IT" attitude...or the fans for that matter, Man Utd 2-1 Pompey, Crouchy to score! methinks.

As much as I hate Liverpool (Even though my Best Mate is a Liverpool Fan) I feel with the addition of Robbie Keane you guys will make a good challenge this year and a Top 3 finish could be on the cards.

He is well worth the 19 Million you paid, shame United didn't have a look at him as Robbie Keane's pace would have made our attack even more of a handful, but it was never going to be on cards as Fergie said he would never sign him for more than 2 Million way back when Keane was at Coventry - lol.

I also hope Chelsea go Trophy-Less aswell.

[b4c 1991]

I also hope Chelsea go Trophy-Less aswell.

doesnt everyone hopes chelsea go tropey less ? tbh i hope they dont get in the top 4 as well, i wouldnt mind aston villa been 4th instead, from last season they should get a chance, an if not them, then everton.


and Arsenal to come in the top 2 - Manchester United to win league again

[Yann]

Chelsea confirmed for title. 4-0, although most of those goals were James' fault :S

[Pheonix_Assassin]

Well all man utd fans will agree that we should have had at least 1 penalty i mean it was a blatant handball and then 90th minute i think that was also a penalty but fuck the ref campaign if we had kept the monitors we could have seen the Penalty incident plus we should have a video ref like the rugby it takes 10 seconds to view the tape but i personally think it will be:

EPL : Chelsea
Fa Cup : Man Utd
Carling CUp : Man utd

but i have heard fergie say us utd fans are in for a treat this week with his transfers 3 are coming in apparently they are Berbatov,Henry and VIlla so we will have to sit it out

[Bax x360a]

Why is this section full of idiots? Firstly we've got Yann saying Cheslea are confirmed for the title just because they won 4-0! And secondly, Pheonix Assassin, which I haven't seen a decent post from, say Utd will sign 3, yes 3, forwards before the end of the transfer window! :p We'll get 1 if any, not 3, and if 3 did come in, why would we want 7 strikers? Wow...

[LFC2K6]

As much as I hate Liverpool (Even though my Best Mate is a Liverpool Fan) I feel with the addition of Robbie Keane you guys will make a good challenge this year and a Top 3 finish could be on the cards.

He is well worth the 19 Million you paid, shame United didn't have a look at him as Robbie Keane's pace would have made our attack even more of a handful, but it was never going to be on cards as Fergie said he would never sign him for more than 2 Million way back when Keane was at Coventry - lol.

I also hope Chelsea go Trophy-Less aswell.

Tbh, I think we have the players to do it(except the wide right and left positions) we just dont have a manager who can do it. From what i've watched of keane, he isn't so fast but has a very good positional sense however he doesn't look like having the extra 15ish goals we need to push on in him.
If you look at Man utd for example, everyone gets in on the act from Wes Brown, to C.Ronaldo. correct me if i'm wrong but every Man utd defender scored at least 1 last season, compared to Liverpool, I think hyypia got 1 all season, no other defender scored(at the right end). The last thing we need is barry, we have 3 top class CM/DM atm with 2 promising youngsters. I think we will challenge...to about december & then we will fall again due to a thick and stubborn manager.
Bad result for Man utd today, what happened?

[Deadly Moves]

Why is this section full of idiots? Firstly we've got Yann saying Cheslea are confirmed for the title just because they won 4-0! And secondly, Pheonix Assassin, which I haven't seen a decent post from, say Utd will sign 3, yes 3, forwards before the end of the transfer window! :p We'll get 1 if any, not 3, and if 3 did come in, why would we want 7 strikers? Wow...
LOL... well said dude.
People are just hating on Man Utd bcos there back on top.. again
Just ignore them Bax

[Yann]

Why is this section full of idiots? Firstly we've got Yann saying Cheslea are confirmed for the title just because they won 4-0! And secondly, Pheonix Assassin, which I haven't seen a decent post from, say Utd will sign 3, yes 3, forwards before the end of the transfer window! :p We'll get 1 if any, not 3, and if 3 did come in, why would we want 7 strikers? Wow...

That was a joke lol. That and I knew it'd antagonise you :P.

Utd got off to a bad start last season and still won so a draw on the first day hardly matters. I was impressed by Chelsea and Villa today. Portsmouth shouldnt have been beaten by that margin but James just made some stupid mistakes.

[LFC2K6]

Well all man utd fans will agree that we should have had at least 1 penalty i mean it was a blatant handball and then 90th minute i think that was also a penalty but fuck the ref campaign if we had kept the monitors we could have seen the Penalty incident plus we should have a video ref like the rugby it takes 10 seconds to view the tape but i personally think it will be:

If they had monitors you'd be able to see on the replay that it was infact outside the box and thus wasted some of the time you needed to possibly win the game

but i have heard fergie say us utd fans are in for a treat this week with his transfers 3 are coming in apparently they are Berbatov,Henry and VIlla so we will have to sit it out

Why would ferguson do that? how could you possibly keep, Henry, Villa, Berbatov, C.Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Saha & Campbell all happy playing up front?

[Pheonix_Assassin]

Why is this section full of idiots? Firstly we've got Yann saying Cheslea are confirmed for the title just because they won 4-0! And secondly, Pheonix Assassin, which I haven't seen a decent post from, say Utd will sign 3, yes 3, forwards before the end of the transfer window! :p We'll get 1 if any, not 3, and if 3 did come in, why would we want 7 strikers? Wow...

lol NOB ALERT not one decent post all 600 off mine are non spam bet 2200 of yours are spam :> u dont deserve to be a utd fan

[Yann]

lol NOB ALERT not one decent post all 600 off mine are non spam bet 2200 of yours are spam :> u dont deserve to be a utd fan

Bax knows what he's talking about.

Also that was the most retarded message i've seen, it ment nothing and just served to ignite a flamewar

[xborg7]

How was the game today? I missed it this morning because I had a tournament, we won, so I guess it was worth it, but nothing beats watching United.

I see Fletcher scored? That's pretty good. I wish Rooney or Tevez scored though to prove we are still a team without Ronaldo. I hate when people say we only win because of Ronaldo.

3 Transfers? Come on, I think you misread that. He probably said 1 of 3 possible strikers. I hope it's Villa, I swear the man will kill everyone in his path in the EPL!

[Yann]

How was the game today? I missed it this morning because I had a tournament, we won, so I guess it was worth it, but nothing beats watching United.

I see Fletcher scored? That's pretty good. I wish Rooney or Tevez scored though to prove we are still a team without Ronaldo. I hate when people say we only win because of Ronaldo.

3 Transfers? Come on, I think you misread that. He probably said 1 of 3 possible strikers. I hope it's Villa, I swear the man will kill everyone in his path in the EPL!

Haha yeah and I got him in my fantasy team out of sheer luck today :).

Shame Utd conceded, I thought they would whitewash Newcastle 5-0

[LFC2K6]

Haha yeah and I got him in my fantasy team out of sheer luck today :).

Shame Utd conceded, I thought they would whitewash Newcastle 5-0

Me too, still we can all hope Newcastle go down :woop:
Agbonlahor got 17pts this week...and i removed him for yakubu :chair...i envy anyone who had him as captain lol. My defence got severely owned this week:mad:

[Yann]

Me too, still we can all hope Newcastle go down :woop:
Agbonlahor got 17pts this week...and i removed him for yakubu :chair...i envy anyone who had him as captain lol. My defence got severely owned this week:mad:

Likewise, i'm getting rid of lescott and Distin for defenders that rarley concede. They might score once in a while but more consistant performers are what I need.

[UK Mylo]

Chelsea confirmed for title. 4-0, although most of those goals were James' fault :S

James was at fault for Deco's goal but the rest were just Portsmouth being VERY sloppy. Chelsea looked good, very good, but it's only one game so there's no point in getting carried away. Today, it was their first competitive game under a new coach, plus they were at home and playing on quality pitch against a poor side. It'll be interesting to see how well Chelsea play on a rubbish pitch in the winter rain, but I'm still tipping them for title, above all Chelsea looked refreshing fluid in their passing game and very dangerous in midfield, when Drogba comes back into the team (I think he'll stay), I genuinely think they will be force to recon with.

As for Utd, it's rare I say this, but that team had ZERO creativity, Newcastle (who I reckon would crumble this season) looked surprising good and defensivly they were pretty organised (very odd for a Keegan team!), Utd just didn't seem that threatening and I don't think they can rely on Rooney to deliver on his own, he's not a CF, to me he's always been a support striker, if Rooney played well it's more likely those around him will score rather him. I know a lot people are waiting for Ronaldo to come back, but I just don't think he'll be same, and I'd be worried for any team relying on a guy who said if could leave, then he would. I think Utd need just 1 WC out-and-out CF who will score 25+ a season, because at the minute, they just don't have one.

I know Keane was biggest transfer of the summer, but to me Liverpool looked pretty much the same as last season and I still can't see the logic of having a £45M+ strike-force and then having no-one on the wings who can give them a decent delivery. Sunderland basically sat there let Liverpool come them straight down the middle, and eventually they got the winner, but in the CL or against Utd or Chelsea, that ain't never gonna work, good teams with a decent organised defence will let you play in front of them all day long. Unless Liverpool get a decent wide man, then I can't see them pushing either Utd or Chelsea for the title. BTW - What the hell is with that Liverpool away kit? It's like a grey carpet tile from the 1980's, it's not just ugly, it's Man City away kit ugly.

[stephenmilne27]

Likewise, i'm getting rid of lescott and Distin for defenders that rarley concede. They might score once in a while but more consistant performers are what I need.

had lescott who conceded 3 and glen johnson who conceded 4!
laursen also conceded 2 so not a great defensive week for me! gna keep lescott and laursen tho cos they can get goals!

[xborg7]

If a defender concedes no goals, it's 4 points, and if they play the whole game, that's another 2 points. So you have 6 points from a defender + more if they assist or get bonus. To me, defenders on your fantasy must be good and concede no goals because you can pick up an easy 6 points just by that.

[LFC2K6]

Likewise, i'm getting rid of lescott and Distin for defenders that rarley concede. They might score once in a while but more consistant performers are what I need.

I wouldnt be so hasty on lescott, as Everton play a promoted side this week, however dump distin now lol as Arsenal waits for them.

I'm abit annoyed i only have 1 real guaranteed points player in torres, i saw more value in having a strong squad (benitez has rubbed off on me :() i can see people sacrificing anything and everything once ronaldo returns though.

[Yann]

I wouldnt be so hasty on lescott, as Everton play a promoted side this week, however dump distin now lol as Arsenal waits for them.

I'm abit annoyed i only have 1 real guaranteed points player in torres, i saw more value in having a strong squad (benitez has rubbed off on me :() i can see people sacrificing anything and everything once ronaldo returns though.

Yeah, apparently 5% of teams already have him.

Thats insane, he wont even be playing till October !

[UK Mylo]

OH LOOK! Another couple of days have passed and STILL no Berbatov at Utd [Insert complete lack of surprise here].

From what I can gather he has a 28m buyout clause in his contract and has handed in a transfer request and has got on his knees and begged Utd to sign him. So what have Utd done? They put in a 20m bid.....20m? Considering Spurs don't want to sell him they might as well have bid 20p because until they hit that magic number (28m by my reckoning), he ain't going nowhere unless he basically trashes the Spurs locker room, calls the Spurs board a bunch of w*****s and tells Ramos where he can stick his team sheet (Players like Berbatov are too ruthless to be this stupid, especially with the hand that feeds you 60 grand a week.)

Now to me, this thing stinks, big time. Considering how SAF cried his eyes out to anyone who'd listen and then went running all the way to FIFA with a complaint more trumped up than a rape allegation against a eunuch, then called Real Madrid a bunch of cradle snatchers over the whole affair. It's smacks of hypocrisy big time that Utd are doing the EXACT same thing to Spurs. They've shown just enough interest to unsettle the player but not enough to actually pay the money that is required. Utd are trying to get Berbatov on the cheap, but considering Spurs don't need the money, It aint gonna happen unless Utd stop dickin' around with Mickey Mouse bids.

I've always said that I can't see the whole Berbatov thing happening. Utd always knew they weren't gonna sell Ronaldo this summer, but if he dissapoints this season, then they can wheel him off to Real at the end of the season and move right in for Berbatov who they already courted and tested the water with. If you REALLY want to sign a player, you do it as soon as possible so that (a) No one else beats you to it (b) You can get on with planning the team asap (c) the longer it goes on, the more the price goes up (usually).

Clubs like Utd don't make their major summer buys two weeks into the football season. I might end up eating my words on this, but I don't think Utd will stump up for Berbatov this window.

[Yann]

I think we'll maybe see some Barry movement around January if he is going to Liverpool. I dont think they can afford him at the moment.

[UK Mylo]

I think we'll maybe see some Barry movement around January if he is going to Liverpool. I dont think they can afford him at the moment.

Yeah, I don't think Barry will be leaving this window, but considering how good he was in Villa's game on Sunday, I think he might be accepting that Liverpool don't want him as badly Villa need him and he's there until Liverpool can stump up the money, so rather than sulk, he is still giving Villa his best (Some players could learn a LOT from him!). I can't blame Villa for holding out for the money from Liverpool, I think if it was anyone else they would have sold him, but considering how much Liverpool took the P*** with thier valuation on Carson (13M!?!?! Then sold him to WBA for F*** ALL, 3.25m!), Villa just wanna give as good as they got. TBH I've always questioned why Liverpool need him so badly considering that Alonso is pretty similar ability-wise. IMO Liverpool need pacey wingers to feed that stike force rather than ANOTHER CM player to play down the middle.

[LFC2K6]

Yeah, I don't think Barry will be leaving this window, but considering how good he was in Villa's game on Sunday, I think he might be accepting that Liverpool don't want him as badly Villa need him and he's there until Liverpool can stump up the money, so rather than sulk, he is still giving Villa his best (Some players could learn a LOT from him!). I can't blame Villa for holding out for the money from Liverpool, I think if it was anyone else they would have sold him, but considering how much Liverpool took the P*** with thier valuation on Carson (13M!?!?! Then sold him to WBA for F*** ALL, 3.25m!), Villa just wanna give as good as they got. TBH I've always questioned why Liverpool need him so badly considering that Alonso is pretty similar ability-wise. IMO Liverpool need pacey wingers to feed that stike force rather than ANOTHER CM player to play down the middle.

Our starting offer for Barry was 500k plus Charles itandje, I can see why they are so annoyed with us lol. But their valuation of Barry is based on them thinking he should be the same price as Mascherano as he "is as good" as him.
Liverpool fans have been trying to convince themselves Barry would be a good signing, however it is clear we all want Alonso over him. Barry is more consistent, but Alonso on his day is twice the player Barry is. We are crying out for wingers at the moment, If anyone saw the LFC v Sunderland game you'll see just how badly Benayoun and Kuyt play out wide, Babel(who is a waste of 11.5m for me) should give us better width along with the attacking full-backs, but he is average at best. Pennant should be given a chance as he is the only attacking midfielder we have who can beat the man, but this shows further how poor we are in this position. I'd love to see a Silva type player at Anfield, but the stubborn idiot of a manager is busy throwing his dummy out the pram at not getting another player we dont need. Rafa needs to go for me

[UK Mylo]

Our starting offer for Barry was 500k plus Charles itandje, I can see why they are so annoyed with us lol. But their valuation of Barry is based on them thinking he should be the same price as Mascherano as he "is as good" as him.
Liverpool fans have been trying to convince themselves Barry would be a good signing, however it is clear we all want Alonso over him. Barry is more consistent, but Alonso on his day is twice the player Barry is. We are crying out for wingers at the moment, If anyone saw the LFC v Sunderland game you'll see just how badly Benayoun and Kuyt play out wide, Babel(who is a waste of 11.5m for me) should give us better width along with the attacking full-backs, but he is average at best. Pennant should be given a chance as he is the only attacking midfielder we have who can beat the man, but this shows further how poor we are in this position. I'd love to see a Silva type player at Anfield, but the stubborn idiot of a manager is busy throwing his dummy out the pram at not getting another player we dont need. Rafa needs to go for me

I saw the Sunderland game and the one thing that was clear to the everyone (cept Rafa) was that Liverpool were all down the middle, It was only for the fact that Sunderland got a bit sloppy on Torres (who is the prems best player in my book) and one bit of quality got them 3 points. Liverpool had nothing on the wings, I don't rate Pennant as his delivery is rubbish and Babel is only half as good as he seems to think he is, as for Kuyt I can't knock the guy cause he always gives his all, but he can't play out on the wing as it's not his position and Benayoun is and always will be a fringe player at a top club because he's not good enough.

Like I've said before, Liverpool are all down the middle and that WON'T work against quality teams, you can try that all day against an organised defence because you'll get no-where (To prove my point, look at how Liverpool have faired against the other top 4 under Rafa, don't know the exact stat, but it's somthing terrible).

Rafa has a thing for playing players out of position, I had to laugh when he was asked about signing Keane, his answers was something ridiculous like about Keane being versatile and able to play up front and on both left and right wings. ROBBIE KEANE? LEFT WING? I can already hear the scousers on 606 calling for Rafa to walk after Liverpool DON'T win the champions league this season.

[blaize2309]

Stokeee have got off to a good startt :drunk:p

[LFC2K6]

I saw the Sunderland game and the one thing that was clear to the everyone (cept Rafa) was that Liverpool were all down the middle, It was only for the fact that Sunderland got a bit sloppy on Torres (who is the prems best player in my book) and one bit of quality got them 3 points. Liverpool had nothing on the wings, I don't rate Pennant as his delivery is rubbish and Babel is only half as good as he seems to think he is, as for Kuyt I can't knock the guy cause he always gives his all, but he can't play out on the wing as it's not his position and Benayoun is and always will be a fringe player at a top club because he's not good enough.

Like I've said before, Liverpool are all down the middle and that WON'T work against quality teams, you can try that all day against an organised defence because you'll get no-where (To prove my point, look at how Liverpool have faired against the other top 4 under Rafa, don't know the exact stat, but it's somthing terrible).

Rafa has a thing for playing players out of position, I had to laugh when he was asked about signing Keane, his answers was something ridiculous like about Keane being versatile and able to play up front and on both left and right wings. ROBBIE KEANE? LEFT WING? I can already hear the scousers on 606 calling for Rafa to walk after Liverpool DON'T win the champions league this season.

We are all down the middle with bog-standard players down the wings, Gerrard on a wing would temporarily solve a problem but his ego won't allow it. We have beaten Arsenal & Chelsea at home in the PL but they both had weakened defences. Under Rafa we haven't so much as scored v Man Utd, however if we get a fair referee (Looks at the disgrace that was the game at old trafford last season) I feel we could do better. We didn't win v a top 3 team last year which is our main downfall, those are points we cant afford to lose.
As for Rafa, my patience has run out with him, the blind support he gets is unbelievable!, I tolerate his PL performance because of his CL success, his stubborness is so annoying, not to mention some of his substitions(i.e at 0-0 v Sunderland, Keane off El Zhar on) but when he goes(and i feel its a deffinate when now) I can have no guesses as to his replacement, as all of the good managers are seemingly taken at the moment.
All in all this will be a dark season...one way or another, for Liverpool Football Club

[stephenmilne27]

I must agree with you that Liverpool do tend to play down the centre of midfield a lot and they do have some fantastic centre midfielders already and i don't see why they want to splash £18 million on another one. You do need a winger and i have heard that you are trying to get Stewart Downing of us for £9 million.

I'm looking forward to the Middlesbrough v Liverpool game this weekend because i we had a great start to the season against Tottenham and the two games Liverpool have had in the Champions League and Premiership i haven't been impressed with them, so i'm hoping that we could pinch a result at Anfield.

[YFR Luco Zade]

middlesborough should get a result as they put in a good performance against tottenham last week. they should be gettin a uefa cup place this season:drunk

[UK Mylo]

I must agree with you that Liverpool do tend to play down the centre of midfield a lot and they do have some fantastic centre midfielders already and i don't see why they want to splash £18 million on another one. You do need a winger and i have heard that you are trying to get Stewart Downing of us for £9 million.

Judging by their recent bid history Liverpool will probably try and get Downing for some Panini football stickers and half a bag of walkers crisps, and when M'Bro ask for more Rafa will sulk and say that the owners don't understand football because they won't him give more money to waste (Quickly forgetting the 18m they gave him for Keane and the 15m they were prepared to shell out Barry).

middlesborough should get a result as they put in a good performance against tottenham last week. they should be gettin a uefa cup place this season:drunk

I didn't know you could qualify for the UEFA cup in 10th place.....

[Deadly Moves]

We are all down the middle with bog-standard players down the wings, Gerrard on a wing would temporarily solve a problem but his ego won't allow it. We have beaten Arsenal & Chelsea at home in the PL but they both had weakened defences. Under Rafa we haven't so much as scored v Man Utd, however if we get a fair referee (Looks at the disgrace that was the game at old trafford last season) I feel we could do better. We didn't win v a top 3 team last year which is our main downfall, those are points we cant afford to lose.
As for Rafa, my patience has run out with him, the blind support he gets is unbelievable!, I tolerate his PL performance because of his CL success, his stubborness is so annoying, not to mention some of his substitions(i.e at 0-0 v Sunderland, Keane off El Zhar on) but when he goes(and i feel its a deffinate when now) I can have no guesses as to his replacement, as all of the good managers are seemingly taken at the moment.
All in all this will be a dark season...one way or another, for Liverpool Football Club
Very true... I'm quite suprised that he's lasted this long at Liverpool.
Considering they havent been anywhere near winning the league.
They did well to win the CL, but where VERY lucky on that night.

[stephenmilne27]

I didn't know you could qualify for the UEFA cup in 10th place.....

Unless you win the League or Fa Cup! :p

10th Place would be really good this season and as a boro fan realistically we arn't gna qualify for Uefa Cup because of one good opening day result. But at least it's a good start.

[LFC2K6]

I must agree with you that Liverpool do tend to play down the centre of midfield a lot and they do have some fantastic centre midfielders already and i don't see why they want to splash £18 million on another one. You do need a winger and i have heard that you are trying to get Stewart Downing of us for £9 million.

I'm looking forward to the Middlesbrough v Liverpool game this weekend because i we had a great start to the season against Tottenham and the two games Liverpool have had in the Champions League and Premiership i haven't been impressed with them, so i'm hoping that we could pinch a result at Anfield.

That Downing deal sounds like a good piece of business if it comes off, will bring an actual winger which is a rarity at the moment, along with good quality of delivery... however clubs this summer seem to have almost tripled players values on us so i expect it to be more around £15 million.
You probably will draw with us as we are out of sync, but with Babel back maybe Kuyt might be dropped! it will probably be 1-1 with Torres scoring at the Kop end.

Very true... I'm quite suprised that he's lasted this long at Liverpool.
Considering they havent been anywhere near winning the league.
They did well to win the CL, but where VERY lucky on that night.

I hope that he doesn't last this season, although saying that i fear what will happen to the spanish players, Reina has already stated he'll follow Rafa wherever, hopefully Torres and Xabi will stay. If he does last the full course i think unless he gets the gap down to 5ish points, he'll be shown the door. The owners of this club are actually good, they're telling Rafa not to bid huge sums for over-valued players, now Rafa tells Guillem Balague(his friend who is handily a journalist) to splash in the papers/websites that he is unhappy. This makes all the fans who follow him blindly protest against the owners, who are not bad guys here...they're just speaking the truth.
Would be interesting to see what happens if Rafa wins nothing again this year, 3 years straight without a trophy won't do.

[WaDiNhO]

I heard from somewere that Liverpool are also interested in signing Ricardo Quaresma, dunno if its true or not, but it would be a good signing for them as he's quality.
Also, its interesting to see that Sunderland have signed Djibril Ciise on a year long loan, Diouf and Ciise up front, that wouldn't have been bad a few years ago.
And another thing, i doubt Berbatov will be staying at spurs, the fans hate him now after he was caught signing a United shirt :P

[stephenmilne27]

I heard from somewere that Liverpool are also interested in signing Ricardo Quaresma, dunno if its true or not, but it would be a good signing for them as he's quality.
Also, its interesting to see that Sunderland have signed Djibril Ciise on a year long loan, Diouf and Ciise up front, that wouldn't have been bad a few years ago.
And another thing, i doubt Berbatov will be staying at spurs, the fans hate him now after he was caught signing a United shirt :P

I would say Quaresma is more of a central player than winger to, i'm not sure so sorry if i'm wrong but no matter what he is a classy player.

And as a Boro fan, i dread saying it but Sunderland have actually made some really good signings and that is good for North East Football but not in particular for Middlesbrough but fair play to Roy Keane.

[xborg7]

Berbatov was caught signing a United shirt? :O

Photos?

[WaDiNhO]

Berbatov was caught signing a United shirt? :O

Photos?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1586890.ece

Enjoy:p

Also, some bad news, Ronaldo will be out until mid-november :(

[UK Mylo]

TBH that sirt things seems pretty ominous to me, it's hardly like the guy waded through 50 fans to find the one kid in a UTD top then made a point of signing it at the same time he wiped arse on a Spurs top. Someone put something under his nose and like a decent bloke he signed it, if he'd refused and made a big deal out of it then the Sun would have probably gone with the headline "BASTARD BERBATOV TELLS SICK CHILD TO F**K HIMSELF". I'm a Wolves fan, and if a wolves player signed a West Brom shirt, it wouldn't bother me one bit, I'd much rather know that the guy was basically down to earth and approachable rather than some up-his-own-arse-primaddona who's too good to acknowledge the people who put them in the palace they are. If Spurs fans are REALLY up in arms, it should be about the fact that Berba BEGGED Utd to sign him, rather than the fact he signed a random red shirt whilst on International duty.

As for Quaresma or Dowing, they'd both be good signings for Liverpool and pretty much what they need (exactly why they WON'T sign either of them), but I think either of those would cost Liverpool a pretty penny (Can't see many M'Bro fans being happy about losing Downing) and I can't see them spending big on another player this summer as the only condition for signing Barry was Rafa had to sell Alonso for the cash. The ironic thing about Rafa is that if he'd have bought for the future from the start, rather than on an endless string of 6m-ish rated crap (Bellamy, Pennant, Morientes, Crouch, Gonzalez, Lucas, Benayoun etc) then Liverpool would probably have one of the best squads in the world. To make my point, Rafa has spent some where in the region 150m (and sold about 50m, so it's still at least 100m loss) in his time at Liverpool, now if you can't get at least a second place finish in the EPL with that kind of spend, then at an any other club, you'd be LONG GONE.

As for Cisse, IMO he's utter SH!T, seriously the guys got pace and nothing else, when he was at Liverpool, he was AWFUL, everytime he went 1on1 with any keeper, he'd just do the same thing eveytime blast it right and the keeper, demonstrating absolutely ZERO skill and the complete inability to finish anything. The guy seemed more concerned endless dodgy haircuts and self-promoting his shitty DJ sets and clothes lines, give it 3 weeks and the guy will break at least one leg and I can't see Keane diggin' his attitude one bit.

Oh and BTW my prediction is Liverpool 2 - M'Bro 0, Liverpool look shakey but they still have quality, M'bro looked good against Spurs, but in all fairness they should have won that game 4-0 easy as Spurs were a complete DISASTER in midfield.

[Pheonix_Assassin]

So who do you think will be first to get sacked the bookies say

1.Mark Hughes 3/1
2.Kevin Keag