No More Strangers Achievement

[Miniscouser8]

If you decide to kill Ivan on the mission don't you get the achievement message me back with answer tar.

[pashos18]

you can get the achievement even if you kill him... but you dont get it right after you kill him if thats what you are saying

[ffm.piranha]

Ivan is one of the four people that does not count towards the No more strangers achievement. The others are Cherise, Jeff and Clarence ...

[alexsimms]

I am having major problems with this one... I have seen everyone (either killed them, saw them in the story line, or met them). I have checked them all off using the map so I am positive they have all been seen. The only one I can't see is Gracie. I saw her in the story (Diamonds are... is complete.), but she just won't show up at her house. I've gone there at all different times throughout the day, and its been about 10 game days I've tried to see her.

I've read that you need to meet them either during the story, or afterwards... has anybody seen a case when meeting a character during the story does not affect this achievement by 'checking them off'? Will I need to see Gracie outside of the missions? And has anyone seen a case of Gracie not showing up?

Thanks!

[alexsimms]

Anybody have any suggestions?

[ChipSpudskin]

I found most of them before I completed the story but, I didn't actually meet all of them until I had finished the story. It was somewhile after I had completed the story that I did this so, I actually checked every spot where each of them appear, even the ones I was convinced I had seen, in case I had lost them due to a reload. It doesn't actually take that long to check each location.

According to the guide, it says "you only need to encounter them. So that means attempting their 1st (or only) mission or seeing them in the context of the storyline." So, I would suggest that it isn't Gracie that you are missing because, she is part of the storyline. I know that I didn't do the Gracie mission listed in the No More Strangers achievement until after I finished the story. But, you are not required to complete all of the random stranger missions to get this acheivement.

Check the guide again http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/grand-theft-auto-iv/guide/

[alexsimms]

Yeah like I said, I've checked them all off one-by-one, and have now seen everybody, either during the story or afterwards. I followed the guide, did everyone's part (1 2 and 3 in some cases), and now have every part for everyone completed (except for the people you can kill, I killed them all). Except I can't see Gracie at her house. No matter when I go, and how many times I go, she is never there. BUT, I saw her in the story.

So I'm confused.

[ChipSpudskin]

But, did you get the achievement? Are you sure you didn't actually do that mission anyway? I know I did it 3 times because, the first 2 times, when she kept grabbing the steering wheel, it ended in her death!