What's Your One and Only Complaint in GTA4

[v SnOwMaN v]

Mine would have to be that you can't do ranked co op with friends, but you can play all those other games ranked with friends.

[Natanji]

I think that the difficulty setting is sucky. I don't say that doing missions is impossible, but often you gotta redo them because then you know where a guy is gonna run already and can make it, while at the first shot you sometimes can't. And then redoing them all from the start just sucks :P

[Bishop24]

Mine would have to be, the lighting is too dark, even in the day time...they should of added more light to the game, I think...

[g2thecore]

I have to say that my only complaint is that you make a ton of money but have really nothing to spend it on. Yeah you can buy guns and clothes, but that's where it ends. I think they should of added the ability to buy property. You know like mansions, buildings etc.....

[Darth Brown 27]

I really wish there was an ability to save the last 20 seconds or so of video and upload to people. Some really crazy/funny/stupid things happen in LC.

[Cold Rival]

The hookers cost too much.

[Chojin]

No checkpoints in missions.

replaying 10 minutes of a 15 minute mission again and again isn't fun

[Archonfury]

the ability to save whenever, or as chojin said, checkpoints. It would piss me off so much to do a mission at the top of wherever, you talk to the guy, drive down to the bottom of wherever, and if you try to save it says, " cant save during a mission", what! Then you go and die and you spawn at the safehouse all the way across the game, and have to re-do everything again

[Frostbite]

There are TOO many cops! It seems like everytime I steal a car, there is a cop sitting there and I get a one star rating. And while most of the time I lose the cops in a matter of seconds, I have had one star police chases take as long as 10 min. Its just annoying!

[Bishop24]

There are TOO many cops! It seems like everytime I steal a car, there is a cop sitting there and I get a one star rating. And while most of the time I lose the cops in a matter of seconds, I have had one star police chases take as long as 10 min. Its just annoying!

That's cause when you get out of the blue and red circle, when they're chasing you, just stop. Because if you keep going, more cops will keep catching up to you. That should make it so it doesn't last 10 mins. again.

[-jase-]

Checkpoints for the longer missions i mean come on how hard can it be to add a checkpoint? doing some of them only to fail near the end and have it all to do again sucked big time.

[Deadly Moves]

I wish there was a proper co-op story mode like in Crackdown and not just the free roam co-op

[CORPSE CRISIS]

Mine would have to be that you can't do ranked co op with friends, but you can play all those other games ranked with friends. THAT and the lagg in cops n crooks or any other multiplayer gametype like the cars move ahead without notice.

[Mingledon]

Well, it's not just that the police are sitting there! It could also be because the person you jacked/someone else called the police. If you steal something/kill someone, run!

But, my complaint is probably that they exaggerated how many interiors they would have. At first, they said EVERY building's interior would be accessible, then they changed that to most, then the game released and it was like GTA SA again- where only the ones you need are open and a very few others to get the hidden packages.

[evokazz]

No more garages for cars, not to keen on the yellow parking spaces, not much to spend cash on, and the lack of nitro, other than that its perfect for me, the online aspect should also be easier to join with friends lists

[Mr Deftino]

I suppose I have quite a few. Yeah there should be checkpoints during a mission. Even if you die during a mission or if you cause an accident, you still lose whatever armour/ammo/health u did during that mission. The text message you get should give you back your ammo/armour/health when you start the mission.

I also find the friends to be a little annoying. They always ring you when you're jus about to do a mission or getting achievements. It's like the kids at school that have no friends and try to latch onto you lol.

The camera angles when shooting can be a bit annoying too. If you're shooting using the cover system say through a door. And a guy comes from the side of you or running towards you from the side of the door you're on. You tap RT (i do coz i use classic controls) to get out of cover and then stick to run. But miss time them and your dead because Niko will take cover in the direction you pointed. OR you aim NIKO at the enemy but your camera is facing another direction, so Niko aims there. It jus annoying when this happens 10 minutes into a mission and you have to do it ALLLLL again.

You should also have a garage, the parking space infront of your house is more or less pointless.

Well thats my rant =D. I suppose this thread was supposed to be ONE complaint but well I felt the need to get it off my chest XD.

[LukeP91]

I dont like the ladders in this game... it always get stuck near the ladder, and the camera angles then go... just ruins it for me lol;)

[K7 Plant K7]

The lack of customisation for characters. One of the great things about SA was being able to have your own individual character, whereas in this game the amount of clothes are limited and you can't do anything else to change the appearance of your character. I know people will say "you can online", but the online option suck imo, I'd rather have a character in the story mode that I can "make my own".

[Thinreaper]

erm, i would have to say.....the multiplayer.

[Tenacious C DSM]

my one gripe would be having to go back to free roam in part play multiplayer to then select another ranked game to play rather than going from game to game which would make more sense.

[Larry109uk]

Rendering Time. Annoys the hell out of me when you are driving and heading for a clear ally and then something pops up! :@

[Kif]

I have plenty of complaints, but here's my 2 big ones.

Lack of stuff to buy: Great, now I have 900K to spend on weapons and taxis. No safehouses, no special cars, nothing. This is depressing not onyl because it limits the game a lot, but there map is huge and making to your one safehouse on each island can take time.

Lack of unlockables: Other than the Annihilator, I can't think of anything. What happened to unlocking stuff at your safehouse, or the tank? Don't get me wrong once I beat the game 100% I will cheat my arse off to get stuff, but still I can't believe Rockstar messed that one up so bad.

[silencedlight]

no proper co-op, come on. Co-op was MADE to allow people to enjoy the entire game together, and this game could easily incorporate it. Instead you get 'missions' where this is morejust 'A' mission. I'll be back on call of duty before battlefield, as the multiplayer is a slow deathtrain. I do enjoy free-roam, but put in things to do as a group, not just sight-see, I don't want to have to battle all the time in multiplayer, just want to have fun with me mates, without the 'look at the car i'm constantly running you down with.'

[Warbo]

I'd have to agree with what everyone has said here.... I also feel the radio on Vice city and San Andreas was way better than this, wheres the ROCK!!!:rock

[Rolyatkcinmai]

The absence of menus, the annoying party system, the lack of ranked coop with your buddies, the fact that firing a shot anywhere in the city pretty much gets you a 1 star wanted level (200 pigeons x 1 star evasion each, fun fun).

I could go on. Still an ace game though.

[Pheonix_Assassin]

Id say the Rockstar Acheivement 100% it sounds impossible now

[SolvingJunk]

Well, I don't have only one... Let's go down the list...

1. Unrealistic nonsence
2. Garbage multiplayer ("There first try" excuse in unacceptable)
3. Luck based achievements (I just can't get "Chain Reaction" after 30 something tries, all luck, and I don't have any)
4. Story is too easy, there were only like 2 missions that I had to retry.

Overall, this game is a rent...

[seahn]

yeah they said they removed the ability to buy property on purpse, i cant remeber why

but yeah i agree with you, i wouldnt say its my complaint, but it is kinda wierd you have all this money for really no reason

i would say my only complaint, you dont get health or armor upgrades, and unlike previous gta games, you dont get weapons in your safe houses, you just have to rely on either the gun shop, and **SPOILERS** little jacob

[Waterbottle]

I'd say the lack of rewards when completing mini games is my biggest complaint.

@SolvingJunk, if you go to Alderney City there's a car shop. Pushing all the cars there (10) into a pile and then adding a couple of your own is an almost fool proof way of getting the chain reaction achievement.

[arachnophilia]

"hold (Y) to enter taxi as passenger."

should be "press (Y) to enter taxi as passenger, hold (Y) to steal taxi"

[Rolyatkcinmai]

Chain reaction doesn't involve luck at all.

[orp08]

the ability to save whenever, or as chojin said, checkpoints. It would piss me off so much to do a mission at the top of wherever, you talk to the guy, drive down to the bottom of wherever, and if you try to save it says, " cant save during a mission", what! Then you go and die and you spawn at the safehouse all the way across the game, and have to re-do everything again
I will say checkpoints on long missions, saves would make guys whoring it, making the difficulty pointless, im just glad i havent died or failed a long missions like the bank one.
I also hate the 200 birds, i mean im not sure if i will do it, as i ussually cant stand those, but that sucks... Unless the collection achievements give something to the story (like in BioShock), they suck.
The multiplayer is also mediocre, not bad, but not good
Buying houses.
The rest is awesome.

[Mvrck945]

unrealistic amount of coppers, I understand what they were trying to do. However they should of done was at certain times and certain districts have more police presence not everywhere in the game. doing the dam stunt jumps and pigeons just became frustrating it doubled my time trying to shake of the cops. I ended up with 100% at 43 hours when it should of been more like 36!

Also I'm nearly a double millionare and I still only have two crappy apartments in alderney and bohan, and one alright apartment in alonqiun, come off it I should been in one of those mansions in alderney with the helicopter out the back!

Finally, GTA still has vehicle cycles which is a complete joke. How is this realistic, when I was doing the stunts I could never find a bike or a decent car, only way was to steal a ferrari from the dealership then there would be like 3 at the next junction! Only seen 3 scramblers the whole game!!

[Spade103]

I want my Katana back. Period.

[X Dboi X]

Online, Enough said.

[Chrome30]

what? I can only pick one complaint? I got a ton to list off....how about to start you can't buy your own house...storing cars "option" sucks...can't play pool in your own apartment that you have a pool table in...limited clothing options...have so much money but nothing to spend it on...auto aim feature for ranked matches (that's just stupid as all get out). I can probably go on and on...Rockstar left out way too many little things..but I bet my paycheck they come up with a lot of stuff to put out for DLC, so they can milk the consumer. The one bonus is the story is ok. Happy gaming!

[Fromknecht]

I wish the camera was tighter behind my vehicle and character. It seems like I'm constantly on that right stick to stay focused. This is especially true with the helicopter.

[Skellyhell]

Just that i am crap with analogue sticks and can never get it straight enough for a strike. had a double. but never a turkey D:

[todddeman]

What happened to setting up business and having a constant flow of cash from that? as in Vice City with the club and the porn ring, it seems to into the story and shooting than the the all out organised crime. that said the story is sweet and the final mission and absolute blast!

[TreFacTor]

can't buy houses, clothes suck, nothing to spend the money on, no multiplayer story mode,too many drivers on small tracks, people who only race super cars, the inability to choose a good wheel man in cops and crooks. All that said it is still exceeding my epectations!

[technique420]

no rampages.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO ALL THE RAMPGAES FROM vice city...that was the funnest part

[RockWhore]

Rampages were awesome, I also miss them!

Only thing I can think of right now is not being able to eat/restock ammo at your safe house which would be rather handy.

[Spardan]

I miss the fact that you have more things to spend your money on and the fact that they is a lot less customization between character and cars

[sir gibo]

there is not a lot to do......no planes no gambling casinos no push bikes and well just not as much as there is on san andres

[sedenteanimo]

Mine would have to be, the lighting is too dark, even in the day time...they should of added more light to the game, I think...
You can change the brightness nd contrast in the game settings to fix this.

[robpears]

Does no one else think that the game is too bloody quiet?

I mean seriously I have to have the Surround Sound turned way up and then I put Gears of War in and nearly had a heart attack because I forgot the Surround Sound was on so loud.

[N1L APOCALYPSE]

two complaints is that it takes so long for someone to call you and that there is no more tanks

[X nosgoth X]

I rather enjoyed the parachute and (small) planes in SA. I miss them. I miss the tank, too. I miss the army coming after me at 6 stars.

While I think Saint's Row ended up being a big disappointment, they had so much more items the player could buy. The clothing selection in this game is ridiculous.

I hate the cars getting dirty. "Oh, awesome, I found a second Infernus! *Drives to the safehouse to store it* Aww it's all nasty now..."

The single player races are too damn easy. I had a race against 5 Comets and I had some random 4 door car, and they got stuck behind every little tree and one of them actually tipped over the edge of a road and fell into the river.

ALL game developers should stop the 'collect 200 of item X' bullshit. Nobody enjoys doing it and everyone always uses a guide, which totally contradicts the point of them being 'hidden'. Stop doing it.

They hyped this game too much, which will always disappoint people.

[lingenfelser]

That targeting/lock-on system still sucks ass... god forbid you get surrounded, you're better off disengaging, running for cover and picking off enemies from afar.

[lingenfelser]

ALL game developers should stop the 'collect 200 of item X' bullshit. Nobody enjoys doing it and everyone always uses a guide, which totally contradicts the point of them being 'hidden'. Stop doing it.

AMEN to that one, brother!
It's just too god damn tedious... and the fact that you have to find pigeons?!?!
Gimme a break...

[roderpol]

One and only complaint? Pfffft! Yeah right... here we go...

1. Checkpoints in missions... It's just infuriating to have to drive with people across the whole damn city 10 times because you get killed or because you cant kill the target... and GOD FORBID you hit a police car in your journey because then it'll double the time it takes you to get there... only to fail again and have to start back from square one. F*** YOU!

2. I didnt see anyone mention this so maybe I just suck at it but the driving really sucks... it is neither realistic (which would be ok) nor arcade-type fun (which would also be ok)... what kind of programming screw up is it that you cant turn while braking!? Give me a BRAKE!. (did you see what i did there? smart huh?)

3. Bowling, darts, pool... very nice... but they arent FUN! Especially pool... the camera angle besides the top view just sucks and playing just because you gotta take someone out isnt fun.

4. What fun is it to have a whole city to mess with if you cant mess with it because the cops wont leave you the hell alone!? Im afraid that if I trip and fall I'll get a wanted level... dammit I might as well get a wanted level for getting run over!

5. Its very beautiful to see all the planes flying in the sky... WHY CANT I FLY ONE?! And I think I know why they did it... and this I say with all seriousness and respect but... What do you think people with flying planes in NYC/LC would immediatly reenact? I may not like it... but I understand why they did it.


Honorable Mentions:
- The money thing. Im rich for nothing.
- My lame ass loser friends are way too needy for love and attention and call at the worst possible times.
- I have to kill a Rockstar employee for an achievement? Im not holding my breath.

And finally:
"hold (Y) to enter taxi as passenger."

should be "press (Y) to enter taxi as passenger, hold (Y) to steal taxi"
Thats a tiny detail that's caused me quite some frustration.


And even after all that... great game! :D

[Soodlum FC]

I have to say that my only complaint is that you make a ton of money but have really nothing to spend it on. Yeah you can buy guns and clothes, but that's where it ends. I think they should of added the ability to buy property. You know like mansions, buildings etc.....

I think that if you go onto the car website that you go onto in a mission you can buy cars.

[X Dboi X]

AMEN to that one, brother!
It's just too god damn tedious... and the fact that you have to find pigeons?!?!
Gimme a break...

Yeah I thought GTA SA Hidden Packages were long and tedious, They GTA IV Came out :o!

294 Hidden Things to find.

200 Pidgeons
50 Stunt Jumps
30 Text Cars
14 Random Charecters.

Oh well at least it aint as bad as Assasins Creed 460 Flags :O!

[X nosgoth X]

Yeah I thought GTA SA Hidden Packages were long and tedious, They GTA IV Came out :o!

294 Hidden Things to find.

200 Pidgeons
50 Stunt Jumps
30 Text Cars
14 Random Charecters.

Oh well at least it aint as bad as Assasins Creed 460 Flags :O!

It's like they want to punish those who wish to complete their games 100%

"Oh, you like to complete stuff? Here, we'll make it a real bitch for you. Hah!"

[Nevander]

Still unrealistic how if you're holding a gun out on the streets or crashing people and driving fast, the cops don't get on you. Ever played Mafia? If you get caught seen holding a gun, just HOLDING it, they are on you.

[SkaKid25]

I have a two major ones that have been mentioned over and over in this thread:

200 Pigeons? What a joke! That's too much. I loved those "hidden" packages in GTA III but flippin' pigeons on the top of a church/hospital/airport? Nah, I'll pass on that! But I must admit I really like the Stunt Jumps, those are lots of fun!

I'm filthy rich with over $1.3 Million but what I'm going to do with all the money? I bought all the nice clothes (I didn't bother with the Russian shop except for Winter Hat and some glasses), my weapons and ammo are all maxed out, i took all the helitours, spent 36K on taxis, couple thousand on the food. I think I might just run around and give the money to that one dude playing sax. Seriously, even it would be nice to actually buy a car or bike at those stores!

Man, this game is great but it lacks lots of wonderful things. I miss Los Santos! I miss Las Venturas! I hope they will release GTA: Los Santos sometime down the road.

[Sniper Riflez]

No checkpoints in missions.

replaying 10 minutes of a 15 minute mission again and again isn't fun
Yeah, I kept flopping when I got to the motorbike on the last mission. I had to reload the game about 6 times so I could get the Liberty city minute achievement.

[Minardi 05]

the fact that rockstar developers dont play the game so that achievement is pretty much impossible atm

[pined5551]

Lack of property and customisation - more so on vehicles than character.

MASSSIVE LAG on muliplayer, mainly races, only need 6 more wins to be top of the midnight club yay.

Pointlessly high money target in multiplayer

Not saving amo/armor when using replay - checkpoints weren't really an issue as i only really needed them on the missions that involved bikes an on the last mission cos i kept getting shot down (5th attempt finally got it) and blowing myself up with the rpg... lol, on that note,

bad anti-aliasing (for anyone who doesnt know what that is, its when u aim just past or above a wall or the bonnet of a car and despite the crosshair pointing at the enemy it still hits the car/wall, invisible obstructions, real pain in the ass when u using the rpg, BOOM).

NO PLANES - at least i've not come across any, single or multiplayer, this is my biggest disapointment by far.

[good ol boy366]

inability to play pool, darts, etc. with friends online

checkpoints

driving controls on most cars and sometimes of niko

some of the stunt jumps are retardedly harder than they should be to complete

the lc minute achievement...it was easy, but forced me to rush through the story

no tanks/planes

thats it...for now...

[lordponcho]

The most annoying thing for me so far was stealing an old rusty car, then taking it to the pay and spray with the hope of getting a shiney looking car come out, only to have it come out looking exactly the same and to get the message "Sorry, this is the best we could do with this piece of junk"

:mad:

[Facial La Fleur]

My only complaint is that you can't play any of the mini-games with REAL friends in free mode such as bowling, darts, pool, etc... Hopefully in the coming weeks or months they will make a patch that will make this possible as I really wanna own my friends at bowling. LoL

[LightsNSirenz]

I am very dissappointed with the music. I thought that there would be a ton of great stuff, especially when I heard about the "ZIT" function, I thought record companies were actually going to push to get their songs onto this game. Otherwise I love it, yes I miss the armor and guns at safehouses, and that damn FIB Buffalo is impossible to get, and purchasing extra safehouses would be great, but this game is beautiful and plays great. Don't be surprised if multiplayer gets fixed with a few little patches. I HATE PARTY MODE, LET ME JUST INVITE MY FRIENDS WHEN THERE ARE ONLY 3 PEOPLE IN A 16 PLAYER MATCH!!

peace

[Incorrigible Space Cadet]

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THE SAFEHOUSES ELEMENT!?!

I've had so many nice ass cars and bikes vanish from my "reserved space" out of my safehouses. Infernus, SuperGT, and a bunch of real nice bikes (all NRG900 variants) that I sifted through by jacking them off passer-bys and from the westdyke autos in Alderney. Just all kinds of time and work in to putting together a wicked collection of vehicles with only the freshest paint jobs and mods if applicable.

so, COULD SOMEONE PLEEEASE TELL ME HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE SAVED IN THE ENTIRETY OF LIBERTY CITY SCATTERED AMONG YOUR 4 SAFEHOUSES (not to mention even the secret reserve space area down by the ferris wheel in hove beach, that is actually still fully functional!)

Im just looking for a friendly explanation from an intelligent gamer that would be kind enough to break down all the specifics of car saving. Thanks to anyone who can help me understant how this works, much appreciated

[X nosgoth X]

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THE SAFEHOUSES ELEMENT!?!

I've had so many nice ass cars and bikes vanish from my "reserved space" out of my safehouses. Infernus, SuperGT, and a bunch of real nice bikes (all NRG900 variants) that I sifted through by jacking them off passer-bys and from the westdyke autos in Alderney. Just all kinds of time and work in to putting together a wicked collection of vehicles with only the freshest paint jobs and mods if applicable.

so, COULD SOMEONE PLEEEASE TELL ME HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE SAVED IN THE ENTIRETY OF LIBERTY CITY SCATTERED AMONG YOUR 4 SAFEHOUSES (not to mention even the secret reserve space area down by the ferris wheel in hove beach, that is actually still fully functional!)

Im just looking for a friendly explanation from an intelligent gamer that would be kind enough to break down all the specifics of car saving. Thanks to anyone who can help me understant how this works, much appreciated

Each space can store up to two vehicles. You can park several bikes on a single parking space, and they will stay there for your current playing session, in my experience. However, when you save the game and load it, all but two vehicles will have vanished.

So, put the two vehicles you want to keep on the parking spots, and you should be fine. Oh, and something that happened to me once: I was near my safehouse and stole a vehicle right in front of a cop. When I drove away, the cop went looking for a vehicle to chase me with, and he took one of the cars that was on my parking spot. When I came back it was gone.