people say gamescore doesnt matter

[Flea]

but most people that say that have about 100 points or so and soon start bragging when they reach 1000 points or so,
whats your opinion do gamerpoints matter?
do you get any sense of for lack of a better word achievment out of them?
are you bothered if your mate has more than you or do you have to always be in front of them?
oh and if you have less than 1000 points im not having a dig at you
:)

[Maka]

I like having a high gamerscore, you get bragging rights and you cant quite be called a noob with a high one, and every once in awhile it's nice when someone is like 'Holy Shit, Thats a high Gamercore!'

When's someone stupid and they dont like you than they'll make fun of your gamerscore. If it'slow you're a noob, if it's high than you have no life. Overall having a high gamerscore is good.

[L3giOn]

Gamerscore does matter, but only if it's legit. ;) Besides, do you think this site would be as popular as it is if gamerscore didn't matter?

[Minty]

Dont think it matters really. Its all just a ploy to make people buy more games. People have abused it with gamesaves etc, and ruined the whole point

[Waaaaaaaak]

I think the gamerscore you get per game is pretty important. There's no way I'm gonna play games I don't like for a higher total gamerscore though. I rather play the games I enjoy most.

[Helacool360]

I like having a high gamerscore, you get bragging rights and you cant quite be called a noob with a high one, and every once in awhile it's nice when someone is like 'Holy Shit, Thats a high Gamercore!'

When's someone stupid and they dont like you than they'll make fun of your gamerscore. If it'slow you're a noob, if it's high than you have no life. Overall having a high gamerscore is good.

My thoughts exactly and I do get the "holy shit!" statement like every day:p

[The Killer 47]

Microsoft has tapped into people's desire to collect things. Whenever there is a product that has a "set", most people who buy it will want to try to get them all. Achievements are the exact same thing, except they're intangible.

[gatorbait]

My main problem was I never really finished a game and would lose interest to go onto another game. Now I have motivation to not only finish my games but to work for the extra things. I know many aren't fans, not on this site though, but I really think it was a great concept for the 360.

[Fonkey Monkey]

I love seeing the little thing at the bottom of the screen pop up after i do something worth my time:). Also, being in a race certainly does make it more fun, especially if it's a close one.

[Phaethon360]

It's something to do. Adds interest to playing games, and makes you try games that you wouldn't normally play. No, I don't think its as important as some people believe. But achievements do give a little more satisfaction than simply beating a game. You can PROVE how well you beat the game, which adds to your credibility.

[xX MaslaN Xx]

the only people that say gamerscores dont matter are the people that have like under 2000 or 3000 points lol

[wolfyio]

I think gamerscore does matter, it gives people a sense of achievement as they gain more points. Also it makes you want to thoroughly play a game to get the full 1000

[razzleson]

But achievements do give a little more satisfaction than simply beating a game. You can PROVE how well you beat the game, which adds to your credibility.

Since I can't word it better I'll just quote Phaenthon360.

[Minty]

the only people that say gamerscores dont matter are the people that have like under 2000 or 3000 points lol

I said it and im only 1000 behind you- having played nothing but Tiger for a month. SO yours cant be that impressive!!

[Fonkey Monkey]

I said it and im only 1000 behind you- having played nothing but Tiger for a month. SO yours cant be that impressive!!

I went from January- June playing pretty much nothing but NBA...

[Minty]

Good for you, but apart from 200 hours in Football manager iv hardly played anything since December apart from Tiger.

Comment wasnt even aimed at you

[Dark Fury]

I really enjoy having achievements to work to, and i now get games from SwapGame - not just for gamerscore but to play the games that i wouldn't normally buy fully.

[Fonkey Monkey]

shit thats a long time on one game. damn how did you get such a high score if you only play those 2 games?

[Nukeshell]

I like the idea of the Achievements very much! Like some of you already know, I have more than 95% of my Gamerscore and Achievements unlocked (I even played Quake 4!). But without this Achievement System, I wouldn't be able to prove it and show that I'm not some regular Gamer, but a "Highly-Skilled Overall Gamer". (Just came up with that ;) )

PS: I have always tried to complete a game 100%, even before the Achievements. I completed GTA: Vice City for the whole 100%, for example.

[Webb]

PS: I have always tried to complete a game 100%, even before the Achievements. I completed GTA: Vice City for the whole 100%, for example.

I only ever tried to complete the games I liked 100%, like the above Vice City, San Andreas, GTA III :D Plus a few other ones :D

Suppose I do try to complete games more now. So has made my money go that little but further ;)

[wolfyio]

I went from January- June playing pretty much nothing but NBA...

That is a lot of NBA, didn't any other genre of game interest you? ;)

[BlazeDragon132]

It gives me a reason to play games I normally would skip.
Also it adds replay value to do the extra stuff instead of trading it in once I finished single-player...

[xMR 360x]

I think achievements matter.Like most of you said we sometimes get games that we wouldnt normally get.So gamerscore and achievemnts are cool,it makes us try to get the last mission complete so that we can get that last 100 points in a game

[Storybush]

Gamerscores only matter to me when I see people completing numerous games at a minimum of 800 points. Seeing a person that played every 360 game and has a couple hundred on each one is nothing impressive.

[W. Samuel Jones III]

I have to agree...

There are plenty of games that I won't even give a second glance, and others that I can't wait to play.

Splinter Cell Double Agent will get all of my waking hours. I just hope the achievements are balance.

Not too easy like King Kong and not impossible and too time consuming like Final Fantasy [PG 3 comes to mind]

I think the gamerscore you get per game is pretty important. There's no way I'm gonna play games I don't like for a higher total gamerscore though. I rather play the games I enjoy most.

[II SoCo II]

i think microsoft should award you say 200 microsoft points for every one thousand that you get i donno atleast you would get something other than bragging rights out of it

[ThaMyth]

achievements make it slot funner, give's you shit to shoot for you'd prolly never try otherwise and if your like me you try hard to get them, how hard would you honestly try to knock 10 zombies over at once without getting something? or eat all 4 ghosts on pacman 4 times in one round? It gives games alot more to do, to me atleast.

[singingbush]

Although i like to get achievements they generally only prove how much time/money you have. I hope that sony's entitlement system reflects more about a players skill.

[Pommerening]

Achievements can be fun to get, but I know if I had a gamerscore of 20,000+ I would not be bragging about it. Unless you're a young kid who has nothing to do on summer vacation, a gamerscore in the 20k's and 30k's is embarrassing.

[Webb]

Achievements can be fun to get, but I know if I had a gamerscore of 20,000+ I would not be bragging about it. Unless you're a young kid who has nothing to do on summer vacation, a gamerscore in the 20k's and 30k's is embarrassing.

Hmmmmm, that is just pure nonsense! Why is it embarrassing? You say nothing to back up your claim! :rolleyes:

[Pommerening]

Hmmmmm, that is just pure nonsense! Why is it embarrassing? You say nothing to back up your claim! :rolleyes:
A score above 20,000 indicates to me that you play video games very often. So often, in fact, that you have little to no social life. Thats the embarrassing part. While you may not be a complete loser, you have probably opted to play Lord of the Rings II on a friday night, trying to get those last 50 gamer points, rather than get some:assor get :drunk

[Webb]

Well I have a more than active social life, too much infact :p, I do a lot for the site, I work 45 hours a week and play cricket on Saturdays and Sundays and all this as well as a degree!!!! And still find time to game!

I'm sure if I can do that, anyone can!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fonkey Monkey]

A score above 20,000 indicates to me that you play video games very often. So often, in fact, that you have little to no social life. Thats the embarrassing part. While you may not be a complete loser, you have probably opted to play Lord of the Rings II on a friday night, trying to get those last 50 gamer points, rather than get some:assor get :drunk

:rolleyes:
i got almost 15,000 and i cant say i play much more than an hour a night unless a huge new game just game out i.e. dead rising.

[SpideR NY]

off-topic: I have a 10,000 gamerscore and if I hadnt taken a 5 month break from my 360 it would be 20-30,000. I also have a full time job, a girlfriend, and party most weekends. Just because you are a gamer doesnt mean you have no life.

On-Topic - I think gamerscore matters a little for certain games. However I think stats matter more for others. Like win loss on sports games or kill ratio. Everyone can fudge the numbers though so skill most times needs to be shown. On that note ima practice up on Madden 07 and ill be back on XBL this weekend:P

[Maka]

A score above 20,000 indicates to me that you play video games very often. So often, in fact, that you have little to no social life. Thats the embarrassing part. While you may not be a complete loser, you have probably opted to play Lord of the Rings II on a friday night, trying to get those last 50 gamer points, rather than get some:assor get :drunk

Ok?! I'm sure you'd dis-agree if you had a GamerScore above 20,000 because to tell you the truth I have a lot of friends, a good social life and no matter what way you think, XBL is a social place... I don't really play that much, it more depends on what you've played... and TRUST me I have A social life a wouldn't rather get the last 50 GS in a game, if I could hang out with my friends... I'm also a big poster, and manage the 1000 clubs, so obvisouly dont only play my xbox...

[oVo Pandora oVo]

I think a persons gamerscore matters to a degree I really only consider the single player achievements having any value since if u can complete all difficulty levels shows your skill for those games online points are different because you can use friends or glitches depending on the games to get those points. I have alot of friends who have bought just as many games as me but hardly have any points they say they play the game but don't care about points, and alot of ppl with low scores say the same thing but if that was true you would have the points for playing the game since isn't that what the points are, getting an achievement for completing a game. It's certainly not embarassing to have a high gamerscore ppl should be proud of their high scores shows how much you are a competetor and how much u love games. The one thing that does drive me nuts, I always get asked because I am a chick if I got all my points or did my "Man" get them 4 me (women are just as good as guys ) :)

[Wreckon Dracgon]

Ohh just so you all know once her gamerscore matches mine she and I are getting married. I just have to beat her husband at Call of Duty (which I could do with my eyes closed on any France level) and then she must kill my wife and adopt our four children.

[oVo Pandora oVo]

A score above 20,000 indicates to me that you play video games very often. So often, in fact, that you have little to no social life. Thats the embarrassing part. While you may not be a complete loser, you have probably opted to play Lord of the Rings II on a friday night, trying to get those last 50 gamer points, rather than get some:assor get :drunk


I would just like to add ppl shouldn't have to defend their life to someone who thinks their score if high reflects their social life or lack of one. Why do ppl even care about someones social life? You can play an hr a day and still have a high score. I think ppl just have to make digs at higher ranked ppl because their score looks pitiful so the only way they can feel better about themselves is to poke fun of others who enjoy playing games. After all video games is a hobby just like any other thing u like to do for fun doesn't mean the xbox runs our lives lol

[oVo Pandora oVo]

LOL dude you crack me up :) I'm not sure about the 4 kids though I can barely handle one lol and I'm pretty sure you could beat my hubby he never even finished Call of Duty in fact he doesn't play xbox games really he prefers PC RPGs so wouldn't be much of a competition lol

[Wreckon Dracgon]

You can just be my videogaming wife its okay (God I Love You).

And I'm sure Minty has noticed I'm not on topic so it seems I've digressed yet again so to make this post not all about you my dear I say...

I totally agree that a high gamerscore has no relation to your social life, life or complete lack thereof. Mine for example which I don't consider to be a high gamerscore is mostly due to an inability to sleep. Most of my days are filled with "Honey Do" tasks "Daddy Do" lists and "Michael your needed at this meeting, meetings" and everything that falls in between during the days and weekends of my life and if this isn't a social enough life for you then I don't need one.

Did I mention your amazing...

[peppersvsfreeney]

I think the most important stat is your gamerscore to possible gamerscore, for example even though my gamerscore is pretty low it's 6810 of a possible 7000. My reason for saying this is that iI have alot of guys on my friends list that have like 13,000 GP's but it's of a possible 20,000-30,000 so it doesn't really take skill to get get an impressive gamerscore just money to buy alot of games in particular sports games.

[PlaN MaN]

Yeah it's just whoever spends more time just trying to get achievements in games, and rent or buy every game will have a high gs.. doesn't really take skill

[ZeroCool2390]

IMO gamerscore somewhat doesn't matter anymore, the whole system is kinda corrupted now, with gamesaves, boosting, etc. I'd personally never rent/buy a game that I know I would hate just to get an easy 1000 points, like King Kong or getting every single sports game. Some people SWARE they loved every single one of these games, but come on, we all know they're just too ashamed to admit that they got them all to get an easy 5000+ points lol.

[oVo Pandora oVo]

I freely admit I have rented some sports games and a few other games just for the easy points not ashamed of it either. The question is though for people that say "people have no skill with a high gamerscore. " I say to those people how many of you can go to a shooter game, then racing game, then sports game and kick ass in each game? Sure you can be skilled at one game if you play that game over and over again, anybody could doesn't take skill for that either just shows you have played it alot. Points don't matter in the grand scheme of things, but like every competitive player its just one more thing we strive to achieve, and if you can complete a game or most of your games to 100 % then yes I would say you are a skilled player if you have over 20,000 points. Not every game is easy to beat and people who play a wide variety of games would know this.:)

[oVo Pandora oVo]

I'd also like to say although this is a good topic to discuss who really cares what your points are really. I never throw my points in anyones face, if I happen to have more then them. I just play my games and mind my own business, it seems like I am the one who is picked on for 1. Having no life because of my high score ( which I most certainly do) or 2. Because I am chick for some reason guys seem to think my "Man" got them for me (which is 200% not true, he sucks at video games lol), and that quite frankly, is getting old, girls are just as good if not better then half of the guys who play games. So I say who cares, you should play your games to have fun and strive to be the best at them, no need to put someone down for either having higher or lower points then you, just play your own games the way you want and let others play the way they want. Just have fun people otherwise what's the point of playing video games.

[Nukeshell]

I freely admit I have rented some sports games and a few other games just for the easy points not ashamed of it either. The question is though for people that say "people have no skill with a high gamerscore. " I say to those people how many of you can go to a shooter game, then racing game, then sports game and kick ass in each game? Sure you can be skilled at one game if you play that game over and over again, anybody could doesn't take skill for that either just shows you have played it alot. Points don't matter in the grand scheme of things, but like every competitive player its just one more thing we strive to achieve, and if you can complete a game or most of your games to 100 % then yes I would say you are a skilled player if you have over 20,000 points. Not every game is easy to beat and people who play a wide variety of games would know this.:)
Like me, for example;)

Anyway, I hate people who say you have no life becauseyou have more than 20,000 GS. It just depends on which games and the amount of games you played.

[grull27]

Achievements do not matter.
They are pointless. They barely affect how I play.
Gamerscore is a flawed system.
Datel Transfer Kit, Account Recovery, etc.
Even without the flaws it is pointless.
And this is coming from someone with 13,000 gamerscore.

[Webb]

Hell, Grull, stop with the negativity bull shit. Thats all you seem to do and I'm not the only one that has notcied this, FACT!!!!

It's obvious achievements matter to some people, otherwise this site wouldn't exist.... FACT!!!!

They may be pointless to you, but they aren't to other people, otherwise this site wouldn't exist..... FACT!!

Gamerscore may be flawed, but this site is anti cheating, so to members here, gamerscore (legit) does matter. Otherwise this site wouldn't exist... FACT!!

[grull27]

MY GOD!
Why do you have to be so mad?
The creator of this thread asked a question and I answered it.
What does gamerscore get you?!?!
Girls? NO
Money? NO
Career? NO
GOOD LIFE? NO

It give you nothing so it is pointless and does not matter.

[Webb]

But you've been like this in every thread!

Blah, blah, gamerscore means shit, blah, blah, gamerscore gets you nothing!

In all honesty, I've had enough of it. It's obviously gonna cause problems round here as, like I've said, the vast majority of the members come here for achievement help!!

What gamerscore gives you is bragging rights!! And you don't even have to have a lot of free time to get a high score!!!!!!

[xfrancox]

I agree with Webb. Why are you here? Why sign up on an achievements site if you dont care about them? I dont get it.

[Krazie]

Well, grull, I can tell you one thing.. Having a high gamerscore will get me a lot farther in life than running around on a forum making pointless posts whining about something that's meaningless.

C'mon now man, there's absolutely no reason for some of the posts you're making. Not only do they not adding anything to the topic, they also seem to belittle a good majority of the website..

[The Killer 47]

The majority of the members of this site enjoy collecting achievements. We all know it doesn't mean much, but we continue to collect them because it is fun. If you win a trophy playing sports, it gets you nothing except for pride and respect. It's the same idea with the achievements.

[ll Mr Magic ll]

Yeah i have no life

[D1SC0NNECTED]

Achievements can be fun to get, but I know if I had a gamerscore of 20,000+ I would not be bragging about it. Unless you're a young kid who has nothing to do on summer vacation, a gamerscore in the 20k's and 30k's is embarrassing.

Embarrassing? I'm trying to figure out why you even come to this site if you have no desire to get up to 20-30k. :p

[blum3]

i don't understand why people say you don't have a life if you got a high gamerscore. if you love video games then why wouldn't you play alot of video games? just because we don't go out every night and drink and throw up doesn't mean we don't have a life. you can have a life and do nothing at all life is about doing what you love, not doing what everyone else thinks you should be doing.

[Webb]

I do both of them things :p lol

[Chris764]

I do both of them things :p lol
hey me too lol

[eggnog]

Good for you, but apart from 200 hours in Football manager iv hardly played anything since December apart from Tiger.

Comment wasnt even aimed at you
Lol minty, ONLY 200 hours...

[Waaaaaaaak]

Embarrassing? I'm trying to figure out why you even come to this site if you have no desire to get up to 20-30k. :p

Because we like to discuss the games we enjoy, and play them a lot. However, we will not buy games just for the gamerpoints.

However, once there are 20-30 games on the market I really enjoy, then I will aspire to get 20k+....

[SaiSpag]

I agree with Waaaaak, I'm not going to be going out and renting lots of games to increase my gamerscore, that's just pointless, I'll play the games I like and the games I have.
Lucky me my local HMV gave my King Kong for free when I got Dead Rising because no one else would buy it ;_; Still, don't want to play it...

[xsni]

I'm such an achievment whore, lol. I'm not for getting my Gamerscore as high as I can... but I will play a game until I get the 1k... unless it is impossible like GRAW achievments.

[DanielFullard]

I think its a cracking idea and I am enjoying starting to build mine up. I dont play games just form achivements as I know some do but I make sure I try my hardest when Im finished the game to polish off the ones I didnt get. I like my Gamerscore as its honest and I am enjoying climbing up leaderboards etc

[Twisted Supreme]

deep down anyone with a tiny score really wants a higher one but they are just not dedicated enough. they are all just jealous!

[femalealert]

I would love to have a higher gamer score but I have very little time to play between work and studying. I am very competetive so getting achievement help to motivate me when I do get to play. Just need some more hours in the day!

[Legend]

I like the idea of the Achievements very much! Like some of you already know, I have more than 95% of my Gamerscore and Achievements unlocked (I even played Quake 4!). But without this Achievement System, I wouldn't be able to prove it and show that I'm not some regular Gamer, but a "Highly-Skilled Overall Gamer". (Just came up with that ;) )

PS: I have always tried to complete a game 100%, even before the Achievements. I completed GTA: Vice City for the whole 100%, for example.

o please nuke, dont come in here bragging about ur achievements completed when 9 out of 10 of ur games r sports or easy achievements, i could get an account and never play chromehounds, DOA4, etc. etc. etc. also. so just shut the fuck up about ur completion rate because when u play a game that actually takes skill hit me up

[xfrancox]

o please nuke, dont come in here bragging about ur achievements completed when 9 out of 10 of ur games r sports or easy achievements, i could get an account and never play chromehounds, DOA4, etc. etc. etc. also. so just shut the fuck up about ur completion rate because when u play a game that actually takes skill hit me up


You need to calm down.

[Xc0mmand0]

i think microsoft should award you say 200 microsoft points for every one thousand that you get i donno atleast you would get something other than bragging rights out of it

i agree, you should get more for the skill. also i believe in percentages. i could care less about someone with a gamerscore of 25K if their % is 25. i call people with more gamerscore noobs because of their percentage. it takes no skill to pop in a game and get 200-300 points and never touch it again. it does take skill to get the 700-1000 points that i go for in every game.

[Nukeshell]

Like mine 90+ percentage:p

[RedBlinky]

i agree, you should get more for the skill. also i believe in percentages. i could care less about someone with a gamerscore of 25K if their % is 25. i call people with more gamerscore noobs because of their percentage. it takes no skill to pop in a game and get 200-300 points and never touch it again. it does take skill to get the 700-1000 points that i go for in every game.

Some games you just rent I dont think it takes no skill to get the 200-300 points it just takes a lot of time to get the last 700 or so. I rented LOTR and missed out on two online achievments kind of lame I just ran out of time. You can't say your better than them just because your willing to spend hours and hours on one game?

[FlyersFan20]

I'm a GS whore, and I didn't even know what it was a first. I originally bought my X360 back in august, and the 1st time I saw "Achievement Unlocked" I became addicted. I'll rent anything and everything to get that score higher. Although I did just buy Sonic the Hedgehog and that game sucks. I think I'll be letting that one go.

[Cause]

I understand where you guys are coming from but there is a few reason why people dont have 1000 points on evergame. I swear i play 360 everday but why would i want to play the same game from 8 extra hours, start to finish just for 50 points. How many people would actually take the time and beat gun on 3 diffrent settings or beat quake 4 on 3 diffrent settings. I mean playing a game like gears of war, 3 times if fun but most of the games are boring as hell. Shit we wouldn't even be playing them if it wasn't for achievement points. If that was true you guys would play robotron for months just to get to 100 wave. Now insted of wasting all that time on robotron for 45 points you could be missing out on a game that is actually fun. As you see this hits home to me worst then most people because i rented some horriable games and got half way threw them and could stomach anymore. If you think that makes me not a a real gamer then so be it. But i work 2 job and have a house and car to worry about so i dont have all the extra time people who go to school do so :)

[Zef]

I understand where you guys are coming from but there is a few reason why people dont have 1000 points on evergame. I swear i play 360 everday but why would i want to play the same game from 8 extra hours, start to finish just for 50 points. How many people would actually take the time and beat gun on 3 diffrent settings or beat quake 4 on 3 diffrent settings. I mean playing a game like gears of war, 3 times if fun but most of the games are boring as hell. Shit we wouldn't even be playing them if it wasn't for achievement points. If that was true you guys would play robotron for months just to get to 100 wave. Now insted of wasting all that time on robotron for 45 points you could be missing out on a game that is actually fun. As you see this hits home to me worst then most people because i rented some horriable games and got half way threw them and could stomach anymore. If you think that makes me not a a real gamer then so be it. But i work 2 job and have a house and car to worry about so i dont have all the extra time people who go to school do so :)

You can get all the Single player achievements for Gears of War in one play through =P

But without achievements I wouldn't have played through COD2 on Veteran, or through MUA on Hard (which isn't that hard if you already played through)

I've had a similar discussion to this with a friend at college, would any of you mind if the gamerscore was taken out but you still got achievements? You get the glory for beating games and bragging rights etc, but no score to giggle about when you break the 40k mark.

As long as I stay above 50% of my maximum potential score, I don't mind what my score is. That way I go back and play my old games so I can sell them off to buy new ones.

[Cause]

You can get all the Single player achievements for Gears of War in one play through =P

But without achievements I wouldn't have played through COD2 on Veteran, or through MUA on Hard (which isn't that hard if you already played through)

I've had a similar discussion to this with a friend at college, would any of you mind if the gamerscore was taken out but you still got achievements? You get the glory for beating games and bragging rights etc, but no score to giggle about when you break the 40k mark.

As long as I stay above 50% of my maximum potential score, I don't mind what my score is. That way I go back and play my old games so I can sell them off to buy new ones.
Ya i know i ment my beating in on vetern then on insane sorry lol. English wasn't my best subject. I'll be honest with you ask allmost everbody on my friends list, I help other people get there achievements more then i get them my self. I would have no problem if i didn't have a gamerscore. Lol to be honest with you i wish they would let me delete some of my gamerscore. There so games i wish i didn't even play like table tennis, just cause, nba 07, crap like that. You can't hate on somebody for trying games out for the first time and not like it. I never though i would ever play a game like gun but the first time i played it i liked it, and to a older gamer like me thats somthing new in a water down gaming community. I love the fact of achievements but, kids that have no life and stay on the 360 and try to tell me that my 20000 isnt good enough for them need to step in the real world and understand what its all about. I bet the people going to college understand what im saying, they work, do school work, and balance everthing at once.

[Zef]

I have to balance four of the apparently hardest college subjects with my 360 addiction but I'm still doing alright, I suppose. The only thing I'm worried about when I go to Uni is whether I'll be able to use my 360 for Xbox Live (don't want to waste £40 on a 12 month subscription), if not it'll be locked up safely at home until I get an apartment instead =D

I wish I could delete the 20 points from Condemned, truly a bad choice for a rental.

[x lazybonesuk x]

I have to balance four of the apparently hardest college subjects with my 360 addiction but I'm still doing alright, I suppose. The only thing I'm worried about when I go to Uni is whether I'll be able to use my 360 for Xbox Live (don't want to waste £40 on a 12 month subscription), if not it'll be locked up safely at home until I get an apartment instead =D

I wish I could delete the 20 points from Condemned, truly a bad choice for a rental.



lol dude you aint the only one who wishes he could take points away i played the outfit because a friend recommended it wow bad move now hes winning me in the race o 20 k lol

back to the subject yeah achievements is evrything to me just so you can say im better then the n0b with like 4ooo gamerscore lol

but aint really hard to be top place in the uk with all the british that play pgr3 all have like 75 points lol

[RadicalSniper99]

I like having this as part of the 360. Like when you tell people you've done something in a game, it's no longer unbelieveable or false. This actually lets you show off some of the things you have been able to do. It would actually be nice if they could add achievements for some of the old XBox games like Halo or Halo 2.

I don't really worry about having a complete score for games yet, but it makes me want to finish certain games that I might not have. At the same time, I've actually played games I might not have. The gamerscore stuff makes some things actually sound more interesting.

[Rebel_INS]

They didnt matter to me much at first, but now im going to try to get more. Plus, you get more out of the game.

[Sykosiknis]

I don't think the achievement points truely matter, unless its bragging rights with friends. However, I love achievements, because it lets me know how to get the most out of my experience with every game. I wouldn't mind challenges, and I do aim to get 100% with every game, just not something I gloat about though unless its with a group of friends I play with all the time.

[suarvvve]

Yeah it's just whoever spends more time just trying to get achievements in games, and rent or buy every game will have a high gs.. doesn't really take skill

It's not just a case of that. Some achievements do take skill. I don't believe for one minute that everyone who tries to beat COD 3 on veteran will be able to. Another example: the 100 wins survival achievements in DOA4 - these are some of the hardest achievements on live at the minute. That not everyone (even those who have a high gamerscore) gets, even those who have played this game a lot. If what you say was the case, pretty much everyone who say, picked up cod2, would get 1000 out of it - clearly not the case.

[suarvvve]

How can you tell my looking at someone's xbox.com profile that they have no life?

[Zef]

A better way to show skill would be the % completion, then the actual score doesn't matter. But then game savers will still get away with their dastardly plan.

"How can you tell my looking at someone's xbox.com profile that they have no life?"

They are playing Halo 2 on a 360.

[suarvvve]

Just because someone has few points in some game doesn't mean they suck at it. People boost achievements. Look at some of the best DOA4 players who went to the world cyber games. They don't have 1000/1000 in Doa4 amnd these are amongst the world's best. E.g. DOAMASTER, (http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=o+M+A+S+T+E+R+o)
Dr_sexual (http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Dr+Sexual)
and
Ladra (http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Ladra)

[Zef]

What if achievements were classed based on difficulty and you could compare how many points in each class you have, or the total number of each class that a player has achieved.

[vincesecuricor2]

to me gamerscore is graet as it spurs me on to finish games and/or try things i usually wouldnt in them or even try a game to get them!

[mike21878]

I'll admit there was a time that i played games, even bad ones, just to get the achievement points but with a Wii and a PS3 on the shelf in my apt, it's hard to justify playing bionicle heroes when Zelda or Full Auto 2 are there looking at me ...

[Fonkey Monkey]

Yea im guilty of that too, but if it is a game that i like or am having alot of fun with (for me just cause right now) then ill go for the 1k. as you can see from some of my more recent games i realized how dumb it was to be playing them *cough cars cough* when i have so many good games that i'd rather be having fun with.

other than that the novelty of the whole system has kinda gone away for me.

[ContrastElement]

dude u can usually tell what games really mean something to u other then points when u look at them and see if there werent any points would u still play it, works for me when im sick of gamerscore:woop:

[Eternal Prince]

Gamerscore is cool in my opinion. It is true though that the people with a low score say it doesn't matter.

[BlaZiN cdn]

i like gamescore points because it shows what games u like or dont and how much time u spend playin, but i have 2 admit that i played games just to get all the points on it, like THAW, which i played all the way through on all difficulty levels and spent $80 (cdn) buying it even though i already had it for PS2.:p

[Tripl299]

I'm glad that they made gamerscores. I have a few friends that just got a 360 and they saw my gamerscore the first time that they went on line and it totally amazed them. And I don't even consider myself a big time gamer. But, I do have to admit that I have tried/played certain games just to get the achievement points for that game. Blazing Angels was the first game that i tried and didn't like at all.

My one friend laughed at me when I got bioncle heroes, but I kinda liked the game until the third level was the same thing as the first. But, the game wasn't totally an easy 1000. You do have to play the game for quite a while to get 1000.

I'm a huge sports fan, so I do play all of the sport games that come out, but not hockey. Just played one hockey game because a friend had it and let me borrow it.

Mircosoft shouldn't get rid of the gamerscores!!

[Sotaco]

I think they do matter because it shows that you have acomplished something important in the game but i agree too that they just make people buy games to get a "High Score" and they do have a high score because they have almost all games.

[Bounty Bob]

I like gamerscore.

It doesn't matter to me if my score is high or low but I definately like unlocking achievements. I always like to complete the games I have but this now gives another target to aim for. In some cases it also offers replay value and encourages to try play modes or styles that I otherwise wouldn't consider.

A big thumbs up from me.

[deej brutal]

i think it was a great idea on behalf on microsoft to come up with achievements and gamerscores, it just makes me and my friends want to get everything on a particular game just for the hell of it. my girl even gets into it so that just makes it even better

[Turninpoint]

I love having to unlock achievements.Besides it gives you the oppurtunity to play the game all the way through,sometimes u wouldn't, to get achievements. I don't like people who,profile swap. I don't understand the whole Game save, because I save all my games progress? I wish you could get Points or some for getting to different levels of score.That would be cool as Hell

[I p00t3d]

acheivements and gamerscore give a game more replay value

[Bunbox360]

Gamerscore doesn't matter. It doesn't prove that you are a good player in a game or match or whatever. My one friend has a GS of 780 and he is so much better at Gears than me. I just collect achievements cuz its fun, doesn't prove I'm better.

[TheColdWolf]

To me, it doese matter, because that is what keeps me wanting to re-rent my games just to beat it. Becuase some of them are great and aren't great.:p

[Ninja]

I didn't care about it when I first got my 360. Now it's a different story. I love to try and compete with my friends and get more on a game than them. I also love the leaderboard features for the arcade games. Overall I think it was a great idea by Microsoft.

[Spot2009]

Yes, gamerscore does count! I feel that I need to be on top (of my community!). Right now, I think I have the highest gamerscore in my town (I'm not sure if that's saying it's easy or hard).

Every time I get an achievement, I'm like, "Woot!" so I have to say, it's a big deal for me. Even though I have a low amount of gamerscore (compared to a lot of you guys), I don't care :P

[rlg420]

To me achievements are like those little toys you get in a happy meal. You will eat 14 impressively nasty hamburgers just so you can say you have all of them.

[thecrazyguy]

A high gamerscore is awsome. It gives you bragging rights. Your friend may not belive you if you tell him, "ya i killed 53,594 zombies in dead rising. But with achievements, you can prove it.

Plus it gives games replay value. I dont know about everyone, but i do feel a sense of acomplishment from getting achievements. It gives you something to aim for. Gives you a reason to play.

Oh and a high gamerscore is not embarasing. Some people think it means your a loser, or have no life. Well that is nonsense! It just means your a very acomplished gamer :)

[alpha305]

Gamerscore matters when you have alot of friends that are real competitive and like to play games for a reason. It really does give you more bragging rights when you have alot more than them. When do you do see other people with higher gamerscores than yourself it makes you wanna play more to get to where they are or better.

[Shino186]

Personally I dont care about it much. I get the system yo play fun games on it, not to try and get points for doing stuff on it. Dont get me wrong, I like getting them, its just not top priority for me, unlike some gamers I know.

[Dan261]

It doesn't matter to me. People take it way too seriously.

[Jdm7399]

I enjoy Xbox's Gamerscore and Feedback system. It's like no other compare to all the consoles out there. Even though it's truly based on bragging rights, it keeps value in games that you wouldn't necessarily play. If you're a gamer that likes to see his/her gamerscore rise, then you would be exploring all genres of gaming and not just games you prefer to play. I can say for myself that I am an "Achievement Hog". I play games that I wouldn't play on a regular basis, but I am exploring the fact that I could be interested in something new or different.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't just care about unlocking achievements. I play the games because I told myself (before I even purchased an Xbox 360) that this console would be my "experimental" console and I have done that by applying myself to different genre of games.
It's not always about unlocking achievements. Games such as Gears of War and Halo can be played for years until a sequel arrives or even still be played afterwards. Some games are just to be enjoyed and not tossed around after you complete all of the achievements with 1000 gamerscore.

In the End...we are ALL still gamers.

[Mingledon]

I have a gamerscore of, like, 2500. Why? I don't have the money to buy a lot of games or rent them, and I don't play as much. Still, I don't want to be judged as any less of a gamer because I only have 2500. I am not any worse of a gamer, I am not any less of a person, and I am not any smaller of a friend.

[Jdm7399]

I have a gamerscore of, like, 2500. Why? I don't have the money to buy a lot of games or rent them, and I don't play as much. Still, I don't want to be judged as any less of a gamer because I only have 2500. I am not any worse of a gamer, I am not any less of a person, and I am not any smaller of a friend.

^^^Very well said! That's why I dislike the words "Pwned", "Owned", or the infamous, "NooB". No gamer should be judged on the looks of their Gamerscore. It's how you are as a Player, a Team Member, a Friend, and most importantly...a Human Being. :drunk

[Mingledon]

Thank you very much for the support. While having a gamerscore that is in the ten thousands and above is pretty awesome, and it definantly shows you have more time, and it could very well mean you are a better gamer and have more free pocket cash.

Gamerscore does not represent you, even if people think so.

[Jdm7399]

Thank you very much for the support. While having a gamerscore that is in the ten thousands and above is pretty awesome, and it definantly shows you have more time, and it could very well mean you are a better gamer and have more free pocket cash.

Gamerscore does not represent you, even if people think so.

^^^You're Welcome! It's very difficult for me to squeeze in a good few hours of game play when you work a 9-5 kind of job, but I do try. A HUGE thanks is to my 2 younger bros, friends, and members of x360a.org that help my Gamerscore grow!

Just remember, Sharing is Caring so spread the wealth! When you're finished with a game, help a friend out by lending them your game, so they can receive the achievements too!:drunk

Games lent to friends:
Madden 06 (easy)
Burnout
NBA Live 06 (even easier)
College Hoops 2k6 (super easy)
Dead Rising
Dead or Alive

[Mingledon]

I have troubles with having numerous videogames... >_>

[Norad45]

I play games just for the hell of it.....sometimes. If its a game I really like, Ill go for the GS. If not, Ill just play it and come back months later. I just dont want it to take over my life....:p

[Twisted Supreme]

At first I was whoring point out of games that I wasn't really enjoying, but now I think I've fond the right balance of playing games I enjoy and discovering different genres that I like. If I don't like the game I can't be arsed to whore them for points. But the ones I do enjoy i love gewtting the points for

[Eternal Prince]

I go through periods of getting points then i get bored and play the same game online for ages. Then get a loada points and continously complete the cycle.

But some games aren't worth playing for points. I can't stand Amped 3. PSU is sooo repetetive. X-men is well crap, so was Eragon...

[Cisumurug]

Gamerscores can be a little misleading. Some of my friends or just certain people who don't really play much or don't have a 360 think the higher your score is the better player you are. Don't get me wrong there is players with high gamerscores that are truly skilled. But for the most part it's your love of gaming that determines it. I mean so what if you played Open Season for an easy 1000, as long as you had fun playing it that's all that matters. To me gamerscores don't matter that much. But when I see someone with a higher score then me I look up to them.

[StormShadow 11B]

I like the gamerscore. Great marketing from Microsoft

[LordXenu]

I don't think Gamerscore really matters. I do enjoy unlocking achievements, though. It's just something fun to do, I guess.

[Jdm7399]

I also forgot to mention one certain "franchise" game I play year round before the new one is released...Madden. I'm a HUGE football fan despite that the game is by EA. Might I add, the achievements are very easy to get.

P.S. Congrats to the Colts...even though I'm not a Colts fan =P

[Sasuke-Xiin]

I for one enjoy the achievements. I find myself playing games longer than normal and doing things i normally wouldn't.

For example, I am playing Call of Duty 2 on veteran, normally i wouldn't have even attempted this, but to my surprise i have almost completed it.

or on a completely different aspect i find myself playing multi player more often than i used to...or even stupid things like shooting rats and crows in FEAR.

The Achievements show what you've done in a game and how far you were willing to take the game for those measly points. I'm having fun with them even if no one else cares what my score is.

[Thrak360]

I just got my 360 last October. I didn't think I'd care about achievements or gamerscore. But like others, I have found getting achievements adds to games, gives you some fun accomplishments to strive for. I don't get as much time to play as I'd like, so I don't buy or rent games just to increase my gamerscore. But for the games I do buy, I do look at the list of achievements, to see how to get those points.

[Bounty Bob]

I do like trying to get all the achievements in games I enjoy and do get some satisfaction from unlocking them. Unlocking the last Tapper ones earlier was especially nice.

Does the overall score matter though? No.

[Arshak]

Gamerscore does matter if thats what an individual is into.. getting more points to to brag. You could also be a person that doesnt have hours upon hours to spend sitting in front of your tv to gain such high score, instead you play a game for the fun of it. Thats why they have different things such as "pro" or "recreation" and such... it is at times.. pretty impressive when u see someone with over 90k score. Its cheap though, when they beat the same game like Eragon in like 3 different languages or something and it counts a a different game.

[Curtis]

I like getting achievements overall. Alot of my friends from school (about 15 of them now) have just gotten xbox live so it's abit of rivalry going on. Thing is I've got so many games (17 ish) to complete it's a pain in the ass spending a decent amount of time on each one everyday.

I don't see why people go for high gamerscore, rather than completing 1000 on the hardest games. How many people have a 1000 on BF2:MC or GRAW, and how many people have a gamerscore over 20k? I'd be alittle more proud if I had 1000 in GOW than if I had 60k gamerscore.

Just my 2 cents.

[TG3 HAVOK]

Achievements can be fun to get, but I know if I had a gamerscore of 20,000+ I would not be bragging about it. Unless you're a young kid who has nothing to do on summer vacation, a gamerscore in the 20k's and 30k's is embarrassing.


i have a score in the 20k, i dont think its embarrasing
the score for me adds lifetime to most games and a little competition between us all

[|oneyedNewb|]

How can a bunch of numbers! prove that your a great gamer?

[nihilbynumbers]

Before I got my 360 I used to play world of warcraft (yeah I know) before that it was Eve online and before that it was Final Fantasy Eleven on PC.I enjoyed all of those games because there was a large community of people all competing for something. That something is bragging rights, gear, weapons, epic stuff, world firsts and the like. I almost bought a PS3 over my 360 and I'm glad I didnt.Gamerscore adds the element of competition to playing.No Gamescore doesnt get you a horde of fangirls or fanboys, no it doesnt get you rich, and no by getting to 100,000 points you dont become immortalized in history. But its fun, its fun for people to make little rivalries between one another and race to ten-thousand or infinity. The gamescore creates a community which is something that other consoles dont have offline aswell as online.Does it matter if you have a big score? No. Does it look good?Yeah. Would I want to get something like 40,000? Yeah. At the end of the day you're still a gamer wether you have a highly decorated number or a score below four digits.
Edit: for some reason my work computer doesnt let my posts put spaces or returns 'enter' into my posts... the hell?

[WildManWiles01]

I think the most important stat is your gamerscore to possible gamerscore, for example even though my gamerscore is pretty low it's 6810 of a possible 7000. My reason for saying this is that iI have alot of guys on my friends list that have like 13,000 GP's but it's of a possible 20,000-30,000 so it doesn't really take skill to get get an impressive gamerscore just money to buy alot of games in particular sports games.

I would have to disagree with this. I have rented games like Alaskan adventures (I live in AK) or Crackdown and hated every minute of my 45-hr playtime with those crappy games. There are a lot more but I dont remember them off the top of my head. I rent games a lot because its easier to see if you'll like it before you buy it. So then that leaves me with a huge margain of ungotten achievements because I will never play those games again.

Off topic - I hate having my job working 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off because while I am working (on my off time) I will get a bunch of achievements, but I can't log onto live to update my score until I get home. ATM my gamerscore is 10300 or so, but doesnt show because I am working. I get to go home on friday though (very excited).

And as for the no life? I truely dont believe that for a minute. I have a house I look after, a very good job I work at, working on my certification renewals and testing, Very many friends that I do all kinds of things with, Other hobbies, a fiance' (getting married July 20th btw), 2 dogs (one of which is a puppy who needs to go outside every 5 mins).. Also, my puppy is only 15 weeks old and I have already taught him to sit, stay, lay down, shake, and the #1 He can fetch a duck and bring it back to me and be waiting for more action....... Hows that for being a gamer and having a lot of other things going on?

[IIIDAMAGE]

.....I don't see why people go for high gamerscore, rather than completing 1000 on the hardest games. How many people have a 1000 on BF2:MC or GRAW, and how many people have a gamerscore over 20k? I'd be alittle more proud if I had 1000 in GOW than if I had 60k gamerscore.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that in a sense, there are achievements and there are ACHIEVEMENTS. Some you look at and just think wow that guy should get an achievement just for having gotten that achievement (i.e. 1000 in GoW, 1000 in Gun...) Dont get me wrong some ppl have the impressive achievemnts and still have a high gamerscore.
But then you have those ppl that play every game that comes out just to up their score, like Cars, Open Season, Meet the Robinsons, childrens games but they have 1000 attatched to it. Im personally not that into achievements but I prob spend just as much time playing games as the guy w/ the 60k gamerscore, he has just played a variety of games, so who am i to talk shit? Then you have ppl w/ only 1000 gamerscore or less but could prob kick your ass back to the shire in most of the popular online games. In the end we are all gamers, some strive for high gamerscores, some for impresssive achievements, some to be the best at one game, and some can do it all. So just b/c a high gamerscore isnt for you, or you might not personally play that game just for the achievements. We are all holding a controller and have love for the same thing: GAMES. So lets just focus on that and keep gaming.

[WildManWiles01]

So just b/c a high gamerscore isnt for you, or you might not personally play that game just for the achievements. We are all holding a controller and have love for the same thing: GAMES. So lets just focus on that and keep gaming.

Well said....

[Krueger]

the more points for have the more friend requests and people comments on your gamer score, gamer score makes it so people will play games that suck a lot of people of my friend list play open season it sucks but people will do it to get achievements so the achievements make a bad game played a lot more than they should

[Rusty187]

I like the idea of the Achievements very much! Like some of you already know, I have more than 95% of my Gamerscore and Achievements unlocked (I even played Quake 4!). But without this Achievement System, I wouldn't be able to prove it and show that I'm not some regular Gamer, but a "Highly-Skilled Overall Gamer". (Just came up with that ;) )

PS: I have always tried to complete a game 100%, even before the Achievements. I completed GTA: Vice City for the whole 100%, for example. im not tring to start a war so dont take this to heart. but i dont really believe you when you say you have obtained 95% of your achievements. when for starters you have less then 500 points for gears of war and less then 600 for lost planet, i havent checked your gamer card yet. but from the two games i see in your sig it would make it impoissible to have obtained 95% of your achievements when you have below 75% with to retail games that i can see without veiwing your gamer card. now to be truthful i have obtained about 60% of my achievements i have a gamerscore of 16,617 out of a possible 30,430 and a total of 680 achievements unlocked. like i said not tring to start a war cause for all i know you could have just started playing those games. but i must say i envy your gamerscore and keep up the good work otherwise someday i might take your spot on the leaderboard

[DanielFullard]

Achievements can be fun to get, but I know if I had a gamerscore of 20,000+ I would not be bragging about it. Unless you're a young kid who has nothing to do on summer vacation, a gamerscore in the 20k's and 30k's is embarrassing.


Why do you choose to come on an "achievements" forum and slag off people for getting gamerscore?

At the end of the day Im 21 years old, a university student on the verge of graduating, have an active social life and enjoy myself always......why then is it embarrasing that I have obtained a score of 23,000+?

If you take that sort of attitude you wont be welcomed much on here mate

[Cross Fire]

If you take that sort of attitude you wont be welcomed much on here mate Well said, this site is for helping people achieve higher gamerscores and if you bag on them they'll just get mad. so what if they have high gamerscores they just like to play video games. there is nothing bad about that, they just get achievements along the way. i have a gamerscore higher then 24000+ do you think i have no life, because believe me i have a life and many other people who play for achievements have a life, just keep that in mind. (most have lifes, not all)

[Ruthless Potato]

I think the achievement/gamerscore system is the best thing about the Xbox 360 and is the whole reason i didnt get a PS3 becoz there i now no point completing a game for absolutly no reason. The achievemnts give u and your mates to talk about and to play for. Also i think that the person who invented the achievements for microsoft is a legend as i alone have spent around £300 more on games than i would have SO PROMOTE THEM GATES!!!!! My gamerscore is only just over 21,000 but it still the 1400 best in UK and 8000 best in world so im happy,

So the thing is ACHIEVEMENTS R THE BEST THING EVER INVENTED so dont mug them off, the only people who say "they dont care" are just the shit ones with a shit gamerscore so get over it and if u dont like it go buy the worst console ever A RUBBISH PS3!!!


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[ac2565]

Achievements matter emotionally but not physically. I like it showing how good I am at certain games. Though gamesavers imo are idiots because gamerscore doesnt matter and they are cheating and giving the false impression that they got an achievement.

[TheLord Phoenix]

Not really for bragging rights just more fun to play the game. But if you have over 20,000 GS than you have no life.;)

[CovertDog]

Not really for bragging rights just more fun to play the game. But if you have over 20,000 GS than you have no life.;)

So according to your statement I must a shut in, that is missing both legs and is tube feed. Statements like this show the declining intelligents of todays youth. Way have a unique thought when you can just repeat the same garbage that every other jealous gamer spews.

[Butters]

So according to your statement I must a shut in, that is missing both legs and is tube feed. Statements like this show the declining intelligents of todays youth. Way have a unique thought when you can just repeat the same garbage that every other jealous gamer spews.

Amen to that. You can't just assume someone is a loser just because they have a large or bigger gamerscore than you...Don't be a meanie poo.

[DarkDementia]

Its an incredibly intelligent and simple system. Like minty said, it makes people buy more games, no other console has had that kind of thing. Its really genius.

[Wizzbang6]

I would have to say GS is one of the best things about the 360 i would have not finished a few games i played if not for GS i loved COD 2 on veteran if not for GS i would have never of given it a thought.
GS does mean something on this site cause everyone is legit so it makes it worth while.

[cravenmoorhead5]

I couple comments I have about gamerscore. First off is I like having it but I wish I had money to buy more games or rent more. Then I (And Im sure many others) would have a lot higher score, which kinda stinks.

Second, how long is 360 gonna be along. Thinking into the future when XBox 360 is at the same stage as regular XBox is now, what is gonna happen to the gamerscores? Have all that work then its done. Something cool would be once they make a new XBox system (If they do) is let u transfer your 360 score to the new console. I know it wont be for a while, but I was just thinking ahead.

[Predator x360a]

Same for me. I love having a high score even though 8865 isn't that high. I love being asked at school how much my score went up over the night just to see the shock on their faces. Does it really do anything? No. For me though, it's a bragging right.

[Un1awfulJustice]

i'm cool with high or low gamerscores and all, but i'm not about to go buy a $60 game that i dont even like that much just for the gamerscore, or buy a bunch of arcade games that aren't fun to me just to get my gamerscore higher than my friends. i buy games that appeal to my gaming interest, and if my gamerscore isnt that high, then so be it. i mean check out my gamerscore, it sucks the biggest one out there. but theres just too much other stuff in my life than to worry about how high my gamerscore is.

[avengerRPM]

personnaly, as one who has really only lately been just sucked into the idea that higher gamerscore equals uber coolness (just joshin!) i love gamerscore and for me its a great way to play games basically forever. 10,000 online kills for GoW?? thats not a game to ever put down or sell back. i think achievements have helped to add lots of replayability to games and the gamerscore really is only a representation of how much someone plays, not how good they are or anything. but i love achievements, thats my deal.

[IIIDAMAGE]

Not really for bragging rights just more fun to play the game. But if you have over 20,000 GS than you have no life.;)

Well damn than i am working myself to having "no life" everyday. I think i might stop increasing my gamerscore cause some kid named TheLordPhoenix (lol) thinks that i will have no life if i reach 20k. Im just gonna end it all now, i feel like such a loser. Thanks a lot phoenix my GS is all i have going for me! and your opinion has completely ruined that for me.

[Segnius]

Not really for bragging rights just more fun to play the game. But if you have over 20,000 GS than you have no life.;)

Thank god, I only have 19968. For a second there, I thought I wasn't one of the cool kids anymore.

[Gazza]

I think they are a great idea, it gives a player more reason to replay games on harder difficulty (and it proves that you have done it), which seperates the good gamers from the ones that can only finish games on the easiest difficulties. But i don't agree with the gamers that do buy them shite kiddy games just to get a quick 1000 points, getting 1000 points on a harder game is much more rewarding than on a game aimed for 5 year olds.

[Flash]

I think Gamerscore matters, to a certain extent.

For example, say if you play online with mates you know, and are competitive with them, Like I do. But some of my mates I play with I met in college and live up North now, Miles away. He says to me on day, Hey I completed Vegas on Realistic. How would I know normally....I wouldnt, But with the Gamerscore & Achievement program, It shows What offline stuff and online stuff you have do, Like a trophy cabinet. Now this I think was a fantastic Idea by Microsoft, And has definatly brought them in some extra cash from crappy, but easy games like TMNT.

I think it's really important to be proud of what you have done in games, Especially when that Achievement Requires a fair bit of skill, Brains, or Knowledge to accomplish.

HOWEVER, overall I can see peoples views on gamerscore from both sides of the battlefield. But at the end of the day I think it's a personal choice, To collect achievements, Or to play online / offline and not go out of your way for achievements.

I personally take achievements slowly, If i really want to hit a certain score, then i'd go out and buy games I don't like to whoare. But so far almost every game i've bought it something that I liked, apart from TMNT :P

I have to say though, this is going to be one, long and never ending debate until the 360 get's replaced...Eventually.

Thank god, I only have 19968. For a second there, I thought I wasn't one of the cool kids anymore.

Hahahaha! Dam i'm on 20,100, DAMN YOU GOD, WHY!

[El Cid xMGx]

Ahh yes...The age old question that ruffles so many feathers.

Here is a fact....If you are here at this site you care about Gamerscore, Here is the reasoning for that. So you play for instance Splinter Cell Double Agent for 6 months...why? because you enjoy it, and you want to have the 1000 points, or you play 100 games for 400-600 points then move on. People get mad but oh well life goes on and that is how they play. Some people jet through multiple games and get 5000 here with games like NBA2k6 etc etc. Im guilty of this but I wanted a higher gamer score. But looking at the games I have completed there are a wide variety of easy / hard games. Hell the hardest I worked for an achievement was Hexic to get the Pooh-Bah and that is my most satisfying achievement to date. I have been gone for 3 months so Im guessing my gamer score would be around 25k, but That does not mean I have no life, on the contrary, Im a Drill Sergeant in the army and go to work every moring at 4am and get home anywhere from 4pm - 10pm mon-sat sometimes sun.some times staying over night for multiple nights. Im married and find time with her. Does that and my free time goes to gaming. Just like a lot of other people.

People are like OMG how can you spend 100$ on 2 games or 50$ on a controller for just video games. I say easy jackass its the same way you payed 30,000$ for a bass boat you use 5 times a year to go throw a lure in the water and wait for 13hrs in a day. (nothing against fisherman I love to fish, was just an example) But I explain to people that hey its my hobby, just like you have model cars, drinking beer, racing cars etc etc.

Now yes I think achievements help the games out, Let me tell you how. Now I love the tomb raider games but by the end of beating the game I want to hang myself with piano wire. Now Would I have played it on hard to beat it with no achievements, hell no I get the same ending on easy. Would I have looked for them stupid artifacts....nope, and would I have done all those shitty time trials, hell no I wouldnt have but the gamerpoints kept me in the game, and I feel I got more money out of my game then if I would have played it on lets say a computer.

I played Everquest from 1999 - 2006 for countless hours on end, along with my wife. I never bought a console, or other game because of that game, want to know why because I had a sense of achievement with that game. My paladin was level 70, 16000hp buffed, 3k AC buffed and I had 4 other characters I played. Got gear upgraded, had over 1000 AA points. But playing the 360 is that same exact concept....rewards for hard work...I forgot who said it about the tropheys and sports, everyone loves that sense of accomplishment.

Bottom line everyone cares about them whether you admit it or not. But never in your live would you try unlock an achievement if there were none, because who wants to play through resident evil with a butter knife, blind folded, with a blind cat with 2 legs and keeps running in circles you must keep alive, while on fire running through the maps secret area unlocking 3 doors at the same time with a well placed throw of a rock, for nothing.....put 15points for a reward and I bet people try it. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

El Cid xMGx

[Clockeye]

i own a ps3 and a 360, and i will buy literally every multiplatform game on the 360 simply because of achievements (actually xboxlive is a reason too, ps3's online system is currently a joke and will probably continue to be)

[xVanished]

I love playing games for GS, althought i have a few friends who couldnt care a less. But it's only cool if its a legit GS.

[Rusty187]

Thank god, I only have 19968. For a second there, I thought I wasn't one of the cool kids anymore. ya good thing my score is only 17,667 so i guess im still cool for now too. my god another 2,500 earned and ill be a loser "sigh":(

Ahh yes...The age old question that ruffles so many feathers.

Here is a fact....If you are here at this site you care about Gamerscore, Here is the reasoning for that. So you play for instance Splinter Cell Double Agent for 6 months...why? because you enjoy it, and you want to have the 1000 points, or you play 100 games for 400-600 points then move on. People get mad but oh well life goes on and that is how they play. Some people jet through multiple games and get 5000 here with games like NBA2k6 etc etc. Im guilty of this but I wanted a higher gamer score. But looking at the games I have completed there are a wide variety of easy / hard games. Hell the hardest I worked for an achievement was Hexic to get the Pooh-Bah and that is my most satisfying achievement to date. I have been gone for 3 months so Im guessing my gamer score would be around 25k, but That does not mean I have no life, on the contrary, Im a Drill Sergeant in the army and go to work every moring at 4am and get home anywhere from 4pm - 10pm mon-sat sometimes sun.some times staying over night for multiple nights. Im married and find time with her. Does that and my free time goes to gaming. Just like a lot of other people.

People are like OMG how can you spend 100$ on 2 games or 50$ on a controller for just video games. I say easy jackass its the same way you payed 30,000$ for a bass boat you use 5 times a year to go throw a lure in the water and wait for 13hrs in a day. (nothing against fisherman I love to fish, was just an example) But I explain to people that hey its my hobby, just like you have model cars, drinking beer, racing cars etc etc.

Now yes I think achievements help the games out, Let me tell you how. Now I love the tomb raider games but by the end of beating the game I want to hang myself with piano wire. Now Would I have played it on hard to beat it with no achievements, hell no I get the same ending on easy. Would I have looked for them stupid artifacts....nope, and would I have done all those shitty time trials, hell no I wouldnt have but the gamerpoints kept me in the game, and I feel I got more money out of my game then if I would have played it on lets say a computer.

I played Everquest from 1999 - 2006 for countless hours on end, along with my wife. I never bought a console, or other game because of that game, want to know why because I had a sense of achievement with that game. My paladin was level 70, 16000hp buffed, 3k AC buffed and I had 4 other characters I played. Got gear upgraded, had over 1000 AA points. But playing the 360 is that same exact concept....rewards for hard work...I forgot who said it about the tropheys and sports, everyone loves that sense of accomplishment.

Bottom line everyone cares about them whether you admit it or not. But never in your live would you try unlock an achievement if there were none, because who wants to play through resident evil with a butter knife, blind folded, with a blind cat with 2 legs and keeps running in circles you must keep alive, while on fire running through the maps secret area unlocking 3 doors at the same time with a well placed throw of a rock, for nothing.....put 15points for a reward and I bet people try it. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

El Cid xMGx very well said. and yet its true if your at this site posting and what not your a achievement lover. and if your one of those guys saying i dont think gamerscore matters your in denial because half of you guys post your completed games in your sig and if gamerscore didnt matter to you then that shit wouldent be in your sig. point is every one at x360a is a achievement whore of some sort whether you admit it or not. btw EL Cid xMGx thats one hell of a achievement i would say any one that could pull that off is a gaming god

[deathbypig37x]

Rusty, you didn't have to post RIGHT after another one. Just edit. You can get posts other ways.
Anyways, I'd have to say that It is true what Maka said WAY earlier, people (usually between 3,000 and 10,000 GS) get real impressed when they see your score. Some people thought it was cool I have over 20k, though I know it's nothing to brag about. It added a new mix to gaming, but maybe inadvertanly. I think achievements were just some marketing ploy made by Microsoft, that just got real popualr, and actually created a huge fanbase.
(I'd be lying if I said I was never an achievement addict, don't get me wrong)

[Rioto]

i dont care much about gaming scores. i got 5000 something. its just im getting bored very fast and i dont got the energy to carry on and get those points.

[DanielFullard]

The way I see it is that the only gamerscore Im really concerned about is my own. Stripclub, Rance and all the others can go and sit downloading gamesaves all day if thats how they want to spend thier lives, I couldnt care less. I try to get gamerscore for me and me only. We all play games to have fun and get a sense of satisfaction from overcoming challenges and the gamerscore system just adds to that.

[scare]

A high gamerscore proves one thing and one thing only.

Time spent playing video games. period. If you want to spend that kind of time playing video games, then you need a "gamerscore" to show for something in life. Its really a waste of time that does not reward you in any way.

Your credit score doesn't increase.
Its not a profession which has life long benefits.
It doesn't make you popular for a love life.

You have to alienate yourself from the world around you to stay dedicated to this cause. What if the servers crashed and you lost your score? MS has lost servers in the past, which contained stats. What would you do? Would you be so devestated that you would consider jumping out a window?

I look at these posts and realize why some people have pale skin, problems with obesity, or they don't eat and suffer from malnutrition. It also explains the stories we hear in the news about kids ruining their lives over a video game.

its a game, thats all. when the power is off, its game over.

[Nodogg]

A high gamerscore proves one thing and one thing only.

Time spent playing video games. period. If you want to spend that kind of time playing video games, then you need a "gamerscore" to show for something in life. Its really a waste of time that does not reward you in any way.

Your credit score doesn't increase.
Its not a profession which has life long benefits.
It doesn't make you popular for a love life.

You have to alienate yourself from the world around you to stay dedicated to this cause. What if the servers crashed and you lost your score? MS has lost servers in the past, which contained stats. What would you do? Would you be so devestated that you would consider jumping out a window?

I look at these posts and realize why some people have pale skin, problems with obesity, or they don't eat and suffer from malnutrition. It also explains the stories we hear in the news about kids ruining their lives over a video game.

its a game, thats all. when the power is off, its game over.

I have to disagree with you that a high score = deadbeat gamer and I’m curious why you’re on XBOX360Achievments.org talking trash about gamers? IMO, you have a pretty skewed view.

I personally don't play for gamer score. I play for fun, period. We have all types on this site, young & old, single & married, still in school & some have successful careers so I think you couldn't be further off. The way I look at people who spend their free time playing games and earning gamer score points, it's their hobby. I show dogs, play sports, watch movies, play video games, etc.

[deathbypig37x]

A high gamerscore proves one thing and one thing only.

Time spent playing video games. period. If you want to spend that kind of time playing video games, then you need a "gamerscore" to show for something in life. Its really a waste of time that does not reward you in any way.

Your credit score doesn't increase.
Its not a profession which has life long benefits.
It doesn't make you popular for a love life.

You have to alienate yourself from the world around you to stay dedicated to this cause. What if the servers crashed and you lost your score? MS has lost servers in the past, which contained stats. What would you do? Would you be so devestated that you would consider jumping out a window?

I look at these posts and realize why some people have pale skin, problems with obesity, or they don't eat and suffer from malnutrition. It also explains the stories we hear in the news about kids ruining their lives over a video game.

its a game, thats all. when the power is off, its game over.

This proves one thing, and one thign only; your about to get slammed with hate.

If you take the time to register on a forum, then make ONE post on your newly created account to make an attack, (At the very people on the forum you signed up for) you have someone who needs to "show something for life".

Fella, I don't know who you are, or if you have the guts to check back on this site after you made your pathetic argument, but you have a lot of nerve.

You make false judgements, act on them, and have no real evidence to support your little rant.

Obviously you miss something. Gamerscore is a new feature that adds a competitive edge to gaming. Having a high gamerscore does not mean that one HAS NO LIFE. It seems you didn't take the time to notice that a large part of this online community have steady jobs, are going to college, are married, or have kids. These people obviously "HAVE LIVES", despite their high gamerscore. So what do you say for your "no life" theory?

Do you hate your country kid? You must, because you don't realize the great commercial value of gamerscore. It helps market games, that would not normally be successful, be successful. Video games are a billion dollar industry, you'd do well to remember that.

Why do you put this message up anyway? Why do you take the time to trash-talk an important marketing demographic? Do you think you're doing the world a favor? If you look to stop "the decline of the western civilization", then go join Jack Thompson on a political campaign.
If you don't do it for 'charity' then your only doing it to give YOURSELF a purpose in life.

Prick.

[shearer06]

I love GS, i`m quite pleased with mine, ive had FR`s from people just because of it but friends take the p**s out of me for having "no life" even tho i`m married with 2 kids !!
I must play an average of 20 hours a week (is this too much ?)
And finally, like i said in another thread - it makes sure i get the value out of games i buy/rent !!

[|oneyedNewb|]

Gamerscore is a hobby like nodogg pointed out!
that's all it is a gamerscore is what it means to you, not to anyone else!
if you want to boost on games then that's your choice...

Im not going o lie but gamerscore is a huge addiction! but hey it's better
than getting High or shitfaced all the time :)

[shearer06]

:woop: :woop: Cider + GS :woop: :woop:

[deathbypig37x]

Most of the time, other than the people who say people with high GS have no lives, people respect a *relatively* higher gamerscore. I know mine is nothing too special, but a lot of people still admire it, despite the fact I own like, 50 arcade games.
Some of the achievements definately demand some serious props, if gotten legitly. 'Seriously' is a big one to look for, I mean that takes some skill and dedication. (or gamesaves for the bottom-feeders)

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

I think its cool to have a high gamescore...it just means the person plays alot of gaming......

[jackanape]

Gamerscore is whatever you make it. I was playing on GoW and a kid was bragging how he had finally hit 1000 points, and I complimented him on it. Then he saw my score and was amazed - does that mean I'm better than him in anyway? Hell no. It just means I play more games but I like to encourage anyone else who likes to keep track of their score.

Yes it means 'nothing' in one sense as their are no real rewards but I like to think of it as a small badge of honour amond like minded individuals. People who can look at each others profiles and give respect where it is due for doing something in a game that few others have.

Kudos to everyone with 'Seriously'..........

[F089H]

Well,it matters to me..Its been hurting lately because I had a Broken 360 from 4/15/07 - 5/3/07...Yeah once I finish Gears and Vegas,It's going to skyrocket.

[Rifle Elite]

I dont really care about GS although sometimes can can play for a whole day to just get 1 achievement and 50GS. But i never bought a game just for its GS. I only buy games i really like.

[KEnn3y]

Playing wit my Fellow PA'ers is the only thing i really care about
Not so much about Gamerscore but we do have compotitions

[ThrillKillBill]

GS is important to me even though i'm still low right now but i agree with rifle. i'm only buyin games i think are fun. i know that chances are i'll never break the 100,000 mark but thats fine by me because whatever score i have will be all me and be stuff i enjoyed doing.

[zFerus]

It matters to me, however I have lost one of my best gaming buds over my GS. We started to race when we both got our 360s, but when I was 30-35K past him he took me off his FL and won't talk to me anymore. ROFL! What a loser. It's like when people say "size doesn't matter" Well it does and people prove it all the time. :p

[the_legion]

i use achievements to gauge where i am compared to my friends, and in a bunch of games it becomes a competion to see who gets the most.

[johnnybisco]

Hell, Grull, stop with the negativity bull shit. Thats all you seem to do and I'm not the only one that has notcied this, FACT!!!!

It's obvious achievements matter to some people, otherwise this site wouldn't exist.... FACT!!!!

They may be pointless to you, but they aren't to other people, otherwise this site wouldn't exist..... FACT!!

Gamerscore may be flawed, but this site is anti cheating, so to members here, gamerscore (legit) does matter. Otherwise this site wouldn't exist... FACT!!

anti cheating? not entirely, i have been coming to this site for months for information (just now made an account today) andi have seen many instances in the quides that show you how to boost and exploit the system in ways that many would consider cheating.

have i exploited a few games? sure have. i dont buy a lot of games because i dont have a lot of money to do so. i rent a lot so i try to get the max out of what i rent.

i like having i higher score than most i run into on XBL and i get lots of "holy spits" and whatnot from people i meet online. but one thing i refuse to do is rent or buy lame games like cars just to boost my score and try to be number one which is mostly unattainable by the average person

[CovertDog]

anti cheating? not entirely, i have been coming to this site for months for information (just now made an account today) andi have seen many instances in the quides that show you how to boost and exploit the system in ways that many would consider cheating.

have i exploited a few games? sure have. i dont buy a lot of games because i dont have a lot of money to do so. i rent a lot so i try to get the max out of what i rent.

i like having i higher score than most i run into on XBL and i get lots of "holy spits" and whatnot from people i meet online. but one thing i refuse to do is rent or buy lame games like cars just to boost my score and try to be number one which is mostly unattainable by the average person


Well first welcome to the site. You well find all your achievement needs here. Like how to obtain achievements in they easiest and fastest way within the restriction of the game without modifaction of said game. We also require to do said achievements by yourself. Yourself referring to the fact that "gamesaving" an "account trading" is not condoned or tolerated.

I would like you give an instance in a guide that you would consider cheating? I'am not sure what you could be talking about? There maybe one (I don't read them all), but I can't see it. "Boosting" is not cheating. You are fulfilling the requirements of the achievement, by yourself/with partner and not interferring/harming of other gamers. As for you saying that "many" would consider is cheating. I'am thinking it's more like a "few". Usely ones with a small gamerscore and consider them selfs the rightous overlords of gaming.

If you choose not to play games like Cars, kudos to you. I hear there is a special place in heaven for people that don't.

[Kwith]

Sure, boosting is not cheating, but I get the motion that it is. Even though it is fulfilling the requirements for that achievement, the achievements are there for a reason. Such as get 100 headshots or 100 revives in Gears of War. Many people put up "achievement matches" for these achievements just so they can boost and get as many headshots/revives or whatever before the match is over.

This is stupid. I take this as Johnny Bisco said "I will not buy lame games like Cars to boost my gamerscore" because he wants to have fun while getting the gamerscore. Sure, if your do the match with friends its fun, but it defeats the purpose of the game. I felt really accomplished when I got those 100 Headshots legit, because it shows people stay away from me or I'll blow your head off. I felt accomplished when I got the revives achievement because it made me feel like "oh people will trust me to revive them now." People who boost to get the headshots are probably bad at the game, and I always leave bad feedback, because IMO, it's tampering with the system. Not literally, but techinically.

You might over-estimate somebody because they have the headshot achievement. Turns out that they use weapons that don't take much skill to use, and are 2 miles away from hitting your head.

Same goes with the revive achievement. You might trust them to revive you, nope, just kidding. The only time they revived was in that boosting match.

I admit myself I had to resort to cheating once in THP8 getting the 10 Million score run. I got the 5 million combo (combo was almost 8 million but I got scared and wanted to be safe) and I knew I could never do that again. That's the only time ever though. The achievements were put in the game for a reason, and that reason is to play the game the way it was meant to be played.

[zFerus]

Dude Kwith cry me a river! So what if people boost. I have done it a few times. Just like thousands of other people have including you. I'm sure people don't care or even think about your negative feedback. So go ahead and give them negative feedback if it makes you feel better. ROFL! You sound like a little child man. It’s not cheating by the way. Cheaters are people who use saved games. They should all be banned. Boosting is fun and a good way to meet friends. That’s just how I see it. :woop:

[CovertDog]

I felt really accomplished when I got those 100 Headshots legit, because it shows people stay away from me or I'll blow your head off.

LOL. Are you serious? I have never feared someone because of something they have done in a video game.

People who boost to get the headshots are probably bad at the game, and I always leave bad feedback, because IMO, it's tampering with the system. Not literally, but techinically.

This is literally Feedback Tampering an is deserving of a complaint. What if the guy played a game for months to get an achievement and by your expert opinion he is bad at the game and must of boosted to get the achievement, he is deserving of a complaint.

You might over-estimate somebody because they have the headshot achievement. Turns out that they use weapons that don't take much skill to use, and are 2 miles away from hitting your head.

Same goes with the revive achievement. You might trust them to revive you, nope, just kidding. The only time they revived was in that boosting match.

You seriously check everyones gamercard that you play and basis your opinion of their skills on it. Here is a reality check, gamerscore is not a reflection of skill. All it shows is how much someone plays. I get achievements for fun. I've never bragged about my score or expected anyone to admire it. I'am I expert at any game, no. I'am I good at some but not at others, I think that is a fair statement.

Back to the whole gest of your post, until I get a manual for a game that states that boosting is cheating and will not be tolerated, I'am sticking with my opinion.

[deathbypig37x]

Back to the whole gest of your post, until I get a manual for a game that states that boosting is cheating and will not be tolerated, I'am sticking with my opinion.

I agree. Boosting in games to get achievements is NOT cheating, it requires time and patience. It, in no way, takes more time or patienece to achieve by boosting, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that as long as they have to put some amount of effort and time into it, it's legit. Gamesaves take no effort. You can get 10,000GS in an hour by leeching off hardearned achievements.
It is, however cheating if one boosts to get their rank or level up in a game. (Like Halo, COD , SCDA, R6: Vegas, etc.) The whole point of having ranks is to find what skill-level you're at, not to get as high up as possible. If you're losing a lot to a certain rank of people, then you shouldn't be cheating or boosting to get up to their skill level. If you played Halo 2 for a day online, you'd find that out rather quickly.

[CovertDog]

It is, however cheating if one boosts to get their rank or level up in a game. (Like Halo, COD , SCDA, R6: Vegas, etc.) The whole point of having ranks is to find what skill-level you're at, not to get as high up as possible. If you're losing a lot to a certain rank of people, then you shouldn't be cheating or boosting to get up to their skill level. If you played Halo 2 for a day online, you'd find that out rather quickly.

I agree with this to a point. Take R6: Vegas. If they are going to put an achievement in for achieving a certain rank, well I beleive it's fair game. If they want to keep their ranking system clean, they shouldn't be making achievements for it. Also I would think anyone that is boosting for these ranks aren't going to play the game long anyways. That's what I do. I boosted for the Level 50 on Lost Plantet and then never played the game again. If it's a game I like, I don't have to boost for the online achievements cause I know they will eventually come. I would never boost for a game leaderboard (ex. Most wins or kills in the world) and I think you will find that anyone that dose boost for an achievement won't actually be on top of any leaderboards anyways.

[alex4283]

When I first got my 360, I didn't even know achievements existed. I thought it was just another console gaming platform like my previous ps2.

After playing for awhile and seeing what it is all about, I really enjoy aiming for all achievements on a game. (unless it's some rediculous multiplayer 50k score achievement)

I dont think the total overall score matters as much as the percentage complete for what games have been recorded. (I really wish that demos weren't added to the list)

[johnnybisco]

Well first welcome to the site. You well find all your achievement needs here. Like how to obtain achievements in they easiest and fastest way within the restriction of the game without modifaction of said game. We also require to do said achievements by yourself. Yourself referring to the fact that "gamesaving" an "account trading" is not condoned or tolerated.

I would like you give an instance in a guide that you would consider cheating? I'am not sure what you could be talking about? There maybe one (I don't read them all), but I can't see it. "Boosting" is not cheating. You are fulfilling the requirements of the achievement, by yourself/with partner and not interferring/harming of other gamers. As for you saying that "many" would consider is cheating. I'am thinking it's more like a "few". Usely ones with a small gamerscore and consider them selfs the rightous overlords of gaming.

If you choose not to play games like Cars, kudos to you. I hear there is a special place in heaven for people that don't.

first thank you for the warm welcome!

there are lots of folks who consider boosting cheating and thats more or less what i meant. if you thinks its a few its probably a few who come to this site look at the guides and get holier than thou even though im sure many who complain do it as well.

the general xbox live population whine and complain and call everyone cheaters who boost or exploit the system for their points (believe me ive heard it all)

i have gotten the gold stars and what not on DOA with some help after i read how to do it on here because lets be honest......whats the chance you will ever run into someone on that kind of streak?

as far as gamesavers.................there is s spot in hell waiting for them.........

[housemdfan]

i originally got on the site for help with one of my games. I'm not an achievement junkie and probably never will (even though right now I'm trying to and making myself insane getting Dr. Krieger's research for Far Cry) But even so, I'm still gonna return the game and maybe rent it in a couple of months, though with my mind the way it is I might not. Yeah my goal is 10,000, but it's a nice round multiple of 5. But I hate cheaters and gamesavers. Simply because of how I look at it. You cheat on a game what else ya gonna cheat on?

[SuperHiro24]

I think the whole gamerscore thing just brings a whole new level to games, introducing people to new games and improving the online community. For example I never would have cared about leveling up to elite on R6 Vegas if there wasn't an achievement but in trying to do so I have met some great friends online.
Once I maxed out my agility on crackdown I would never have tried to find all the orbs, but in trying to get that achievement I've found some great new aspects to the game by having to search the entire map, same goes for finding all the tokens in spiderman.
It also introduces new game types to people for instance I never played a american football game and probably wouldn't have bothered trying one before but in renting madden 06 to up my score a little I discovered I actually enjoyed the game alot and will be getting future titles from now on.

So all in all it makes games better, increases the longevity and provides people with knowledge that they are able to pass on to other gamers to help them at places like this forum.

[halo warlord2k7]

i love gs so much gives u something to work towards

[MadDog2010]

I think Microsoft just made gamerpoints for people to promote their games. I mean, after Xbox Live came out, nobody (at least all the people I know) didn't really play the story lines, they just hoped on Xbox Live as fast as they could. In that case, they don't really matter. But on the other hand, there are some things that only a handful of people have been able to do (like beat Halo 2 on legendary without dying once). For that, you want to feel like you accomplished something, so they are good to have.

Right now, I think they are just a way to keep people going crazy over the Xbox 360 and not the other consoles. But, if achievements start getting harder, then they might become serious.

[ilski]

I like getting achievements. As long as I am having fun playing a game, I will try and get as many achievements from the game as I can. The way other people play their games or what games they play doesn't matter to me.

[jackanape]

Achievements are great - we wouldn't be on this site otherwise. But I do have an issue with the new trend of DLC, as that just ruins my day.

Part of me wants to rush back and get the extra points while the more sensible part sees it as a cheap cash in by Microsoft and the developers.

[Cold Rival]

I love the idea of gamerscore. It adds a sense of competition with friends and others when you see that you have a tricky achievement that they don't have yet. It's also the most satisfying feeling when you see the "Achievement Unocked" at the bottom of the screen.

However, I feel that has taken something away from gaming. I used to spend hours on my PS2 just because I enjoyed the game, but that feeling is sometimes lost in the newer games for the 360. Anyone else get that feeling?

[Spades12321]

Achievements help gamers get more out of a game. For instance, I would of never of decided to complete Call of duty 3 on veteran difficilty if there was no achievements there would of been no point of doinig it in my eyes, but collecting achievements encouraged me to play it on veteran difficulty.

[Haly]

You can use the edit button spades12321 :) Saves on double posting.

Achievements matter to me, they give me something to aim for and encourage me to do things I wouldn't normally do in a game, a