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razzleson

03-20-2008, 04:44 AM

Usually the stories I bring to you guys are off the wall, but this one really bugged me.

LINCOLN, Neb. -- A 10-year-old Lincoln girl dying of brain cancer has one wish -- for her father to be at her bedside.

It isn't likely to happen. Her father is in a federal prison in Yankton, S.D.

Vonda Yaeger is pleading with the warden for compassion to grant her daughter's wish.

"She wants her dad. She goes to her room crying because she wants her dad," Yaeger said.

Jason Yaeger was convicted of methamphetamine charges nearly five years ago and is scheduled to be released next year.

"We've never asked them to release him early. Never asked them to change anything. We've asked them to just give him some time to be here," Vonda Yaeger said.

Jayci Yaeger has been allowed three escorted visits with her father, but each trip lasts only a couple of hours and costs the family hundreds of dollars. Requests for longer furloughs have been denied.

"They say it doesn't constitute an extraordinary circumstance," Vonda Yaeger said.

A representative of the Yankton facility would not respond to specific questions about the situation.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons Web site states its policy -- that furloughs can be allowed for a family crisis and that decision is left to the warden.

"We've asked them numerous times, 'What is an extraordinary circumstance?'" said Vonda Yaeger. "They danced around it. They don't give you a direct answer."

Jayci still gets calls when her father can manage.

"He talks to her. We put the phone to her ear and she cries," Vonda Yaeger said.

She said there have been several times she didn't think Jayci would make it through the night, but she somehow keeps fighting.

"I feel she's hanging on for her dad," Vonda Yaeger said.

The family said that what makes the situation even more difficult is that Jason Yaeger is scheduled to be transferred to a half-way house in Council Bluffs, Iowa, in August. That would make it possible to visit Jayci, but her mother said it will probably be too late.

LINK (http://www.ketv.com/family/15643474/detail.html)I know meth charges are really strict in the US (I actually went to a few cases while in high school), but this is really odd, what exactly do they need to qualify as "extreme circumstances" if this isn't?

Your thoughts?

Tussell

03-20-2008, 04:58 AM

That pisses me off. His dying daughter is asking for her father, yet they will not let it happen... How insane...

Jdm7399

03-20-2008, 05:03 AM

That's some BULLSHIT.:mad:

Even if you can't Break the Rules, you can sure as hell Bend them.

gatorbait

03-20-2008, 05:05 AM

That's a very heart-wrenching story. I don't think I live with myself if I denied a convicted man his right to see his dying daughter. I can imagine it must be hell for the father right now. He has no control over the situation right now and might not get to see his daughter ever again since the last time whenever that was. It really bothers me when they put words such as 'only under extraordinary conditions' so basically whomever is in charge pretty much gets to decide what's final regardless of any rules since there really aren't rules but what the warden wants.

GameFreak47

03-20-2008, 06:24 AM

Let's just say that the warden better not drop the soap, oh will he regret it...

That is complete bullshit. I understand the man has to serve time for what he did, but to deny a father to be with his daughter during her final days is absolutely fucked up to hell. I can't imagine what they are both going through, it must be torture...

KlicK

03-20-2008, 06:37 AM

It really bothers me when they put words such as 'only under extraordinary conditions' so basically whomever is in charge pretty much gets to decide what's final regardless of any rules since there really aren't rules but what the warden wants.

Good luck with getting a clear cut definition of "extraordinary circumstances".

I'm not saying that this situation isn't extraordinary, it certainly is, and anybody with a little decency should realize that. But don't criticize the rules for not having a definition of something that is so subjective.

Honkymagoo

03-20-2008, 06:51 AM

When will people learn that rehabilitation > prison. It's common knowledge in Psychology that punishment is generally counterproductive and if I were in this situation personally, as soon as I was released from prison, heads would start rolling.

lordvader178

03-20-2008, 07:00 AM

run ita charlie

03-20-2008, 07:38 AM

That is bullshit. Whoever is running that shitty jail should be ashamed of themselves. I really do hope the warden of the jail dies a slow panful death just like that poor girl. Then he will know how it feels. What a loser. It really pisses me off.

If he was a compassionate and kind hearted man, he wouldn't be called "warden" now would he?

I think its complete bullshit how these people can do such a thing as denying a person their dying wish. In my opinion, people like that should not be allowed to be running prisons and should be IN the prison system instead.

Zef

03-20-2008, 12:30 PM

Time to look like a bastard again =)

Although it is kind of 'evil' that the prison aren't going to let him out for a short while just to see his daughter it is reasonable. If they let him see her then other people would probably start asking for similar things and it would start a whole cascade of people doing the same thing. They could always just let the girl go into the prison to see her dad when she dies and make themselves look even worse.

And I disagree Charlie, if you are running a prison you have to draw the line somewhere and even if it pisses people off you have a job to do. Would you deny someone's last wish if they wanted you to murder a bunch of people and take all of the blame? (extreme example I know)

Lets keep any future flaming on the low side, if you have a problem with the above you know where to PM me =)

keene oh

03-20-2008, 12:42 PM

The father should be offered an extension on his sentence. i.e. delay moving to the halfway house for a month but be given a month in secure accomodation near to the daughter / hospital.

Not that my opinion counts for much being a non u.s. resident.

The only problem is, the warden would be setting a precedent. That sort of decision is never taken lightly by the courts / prison services.

Let's just hope that the daughter manages to hold on until August or the father gets a decent length of furlough.

elmuziko

03-20-2008, 01:00 PM

I'm with Zef.

As the old saying goes, if you can't face the time, don't do the crime.

Unfortunantly a girls last dying wish doesn't necessarily mean she's going to die immedietly... Dad could go see her tomorrow as her last wish, she might keep fighting for another month, where do you draw the line on how much freedom Dad's allowed before Daughter cops it?

It'd be interesting to know if Dad was abusing the drug or dealing. I'd personally be very lenient if it was just abusing it, however dealing the drug is a different ball game.

Minty

03-20-2008, 01:06 PM

Kinda agree with Zef here. When you make the decision to commit a crime, you know the risks involved. You know that prison is an option, and when youre in prison you make sacrifices - family being one of them. If he loved his daughter that much he wouldn't have done it in the first place.

I really do hope the warden of the jail dies a slow panful death just like that poor girl.

Thats the most twattish thing I've read in a while. Dumbass.

PnutButrSkippy

03-20-2008, 01:34 PM

but its a damn 10 year old girl whos dying!!! at least let her dad be by the bedside, even if it means that several police officers are there and the man is in shackles (sp?).

allekpastrana

03-20-2008, 01:51 PM

I saw let him be there w/his child during her need of time. She won't be there when he gets out...they have done it before...also the man is going to released NEXT year so he won't try to escape.

Mr Arrow

03-20-2008, 02:34 PM

The girl was 5 when her 'father' was put away, now she's 10. I don't think there a really big emotional connection here between the two.

I feel really bad for this little girl and can not even begin to imagine what the family is going through BUT, I question the news media on some of these stories. Yes I know is very cynical but they probably made this more of a story than it really started as. Look at the way it's written.....'the father still calls when he can manage!! WTF. They make it sound like he's on the front lines in Iraq during a 3 month non-stop fire fight. They write this types of things to make you more sympathetic to his side.

I wish the family the best of luck with this, I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone.

EvilFrankfurt

03-20-2008, 02:54 PM

Yeah they talked about this on the radio yesterday. I live like 40 miles from Lincoln xD. The dude's in a prison not 4 hours from Lincoln, they could escourt the guy down here to let him see his daughter before she dies. And if he's willing to do twice his time just to do it, although that costs more money, it will keep him off the streets so he won't be able to sell drugs again.

JoePie

03-20-2008, 04:56 PM

The girl was 5 when her 'father' was put away, now she's 10. I don't think there a really big emotional connection here between the two.

You can't be serious.

Jayci still gets calls when her father can manage.

"He talks to her. We put the phone to her ear and she cries," Vonda Yaeger said.

avengerRPM

03-20-2008, 05:38 PM

I think this is a tough situation, but that the right thing to do is let the dad out, not so that he can see his daughter (because he is the one being punished), but so that the daughter can see her father. She has done nothing wrong, and does not deserve to kept from she wants so badly.

I truly hope that the whole situation ends up well for all, and may the little girl pass peacefully one night, with as little pain as possible.

M85A21

03-20-2008, 05:41 PM

That's quite sad..
They should allow him to see her.
She's dying, poor girl. She should be prayed for, in these cases I bet as soon as she sees hi (If she does) when she goes to sleep she will probabaly pass.

vhayste

03-20-2008, 06:11 PM

The Warden is just being a he-b**ch...

If he is reasonable enough, he should have granted the kid's wish. It's only for a few hours... and to think that it could be the last time the two could be together.

Shame on him.

Spartan EXR

03-20-2008, 06:17 PM

That is some serious BULL!

xxEquilibriumxx

03-20-2008, 08:59 PM

I'll be one of the few people that says. If he actually cared for his family and daughter in the first place he wouldn't have done meth. Sure the duaghter might be nice and pure, but does she really need a role model of a meth addict or dealer in her life? We have no personal background on the dad and what he is like. Is he a trouble in the prison system? I'm sure the warden would take into account the 5 yrs he's been there he hasn't done anything wrong he could send some security with him. We don't know the situation of the dad all we hear is the sad situation for the daughter. She visits hims sometimes. It's like that time a dieng kid wanted to hunt the endangered grizzly bear. Sure the kids dieng, but some wish's can't be granted.

Bax x360a

03-20-2008, 09:20 PM

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ when people say the guy should be let out. If he had a daughter to look after, he shouldn't have done the crime in the first place. He's got nobody but himself to blame. Hopefully this will teach him a lesson, and many others who read this.

RogueVasion

03-20-2008, 09:29 PM

IMO, I would let him see her father. Since he will be sent to a halfway house this Summer, I believe she deserves to see him. She is lying on her death bed, crying for her father. It painful to say it, but it puts a tear in my eye that they will not grant this wish.

It's not going to happen to every prisoner; he is going to be released soon. It's not as if he murdered someone, he had a bumpy start and did something wrong. He has been imprisoned for a long time and if he cares for his family, he won't do something like that ever again. Send an escort or two to watch the door, so he doesn't try to run or hurt someone. Grant her the wish; i consider this minor compared to being a killer.

EDIT: For those who say don't let him out...He is going to be sent to a halfway house in less than a few months and will be released next year. I know he shouldn't have done the crime, if he can't do the time, but many people are roaming the streets doing the same as he did. People do stupid things in their life, like everyone does. And though this is a movie, I will use this as an example: Spiderman. His nemesis in 3 was the Sandman. Did you see why he did what he did? He was trying to help his daughter. He even claimed he made mistakes, we're all humans. But if a child is sitting on her death bed, you need to have the heart to at least say goodbye to his daughter.

Bax x360a

03-20-2008, 09:35 PM

IMO, I would let her see his father.
lmao :p her see his father? Why anyway? He doesn't deserve to see her.

RogueVasion

03-20-2008, 09:41 PM

lmao :p her see his father? Why anyway? He doesn't deserve to see her.

Ooops. Sorry about that. I better fix that!

Some don't deserve to see their children, but in this case he does. He has served most of his sentence. His daughter is asking to see her father for the last time; she will eventually die. I think since he will be sent to a halfhouse soon, they should bend the rules to allow him to meet with his daughter. I know that he shouldn't have done the crime, but it's not as if we all don't make mistakes. He wasn't going around killing innocent people, he was dealing with drugs. Yes, that's still not good, but it's all in good effort. They aren't releasing him, just letting him visit his daughter. Send a few officers to watch him and all is good.

LegitLostLegend

03-20-2008, 10:42 PM

That's really messed up what the warden did. It's going to be even worse if he doesn't allow him to go to her funeral

MovingWriter

03-20-2008, 10:48 PM

I just hope that when they go to sleep at night, they made a little girl die unhappy.

Mr Arrow

03-20-2008, 11:27 PM

I just hope that when they go to sleep at night, they made a little girl die unhappy.

I'm not quite sure this is exactly what you meant to say??

Lucent Beam

03-20-2008, 11:45 PM

It's sad for the daughter, but it's her father's own fault. He commit a crime and was sentenced. The End. It's his fault, not the prison, that he can't see his daughter. I feel bad for the daughter that she has to suffer emotionally because of her father's poor behavior choices, but it's her father's fault.

J eVeRy DaY 514

03-21-2008, 02:24 AM

its a shame how evil our court systems are. you better believe that if a family member of a judge or warden was on their death bed, their wish would be granted.

true, the father did a crime. but he's doing his time. they should agree to let this happen for the sake of a child's last wish. the child is probably already going through tremendous physical pain, why let her have even more emotional?

CLAPSTER

03-21-2008, 05:15 AM

Very sad they can't let him go, with police officers following him around and whatnot. Truly sad. :( Hope they let him go.

Dothis

03-21-2008, 06:40 AM

You people keep saying he shouldn't be allowed to see her like it's his dying wish. The girl wants to see her father. Chances are, if they are having to hold the phone up to her ear, she doesn't have the longest of times left. Surely they could come up to some type of compromise. Either move her there, in the prison's hospital, or some sort of armed escort to his daughter's death bed.

metalhead212

03-21-2008, 01:31 PM

I can understand that a meth charge is a pretty serious thing, but come on? If he was being locked up for murder or something severe like that I could understand them not wanting to let him out, or if he was a constant trouble inmate or something along those lines, but a drug charge and they won't let him be with his kid for a few hours as the final threads of her life slip away. So sad.

sullydavid

03-21-2008, 02:03 PM

PerpetualHeaven

03-21-2008, 02:27 PM

Good job Zek stepping up to be the first opposing view. I do not think the father should be let out to see the girl.

One thing I do not understand that has not been mentioned is why the girl cannot still go visit the father. While she has a terminal case, they are not even sure if she will be die by August. Seems that the trip a couple of hours to the prison would be feasible.

Because it costs them a lot of money to go visit her father there. Obviously she's extremely sick so the medical costs are probably outrageous. And yes, it's uncertain whether she will or will not die. But what if she does before August? Then what? There's also the possibility she might not, but the way they make it sound like it's highly unlikely.

Anyways, this is kind of rough that they aren't letting the dad go see her. That's the system though. It would be horrible if his daughter died before he could see her. I'm not a father, but I know if I couldn't see my brother, sister or mom (assuming they're all dying) because I was in jail and they died would be a pain that makes death look like an excellent option. And I'm sure some of you may be all for the fact that he can't see his child, but is this punishment really equal to the crime he committed? Not really. I could easily see this being much worse than the death penalty or life in jail without parole for fathers.

iskoot

03-21-2008, 03:06 PM

If he is so close to getting out of jail...what would be the big deal??? Honestly, I can understand if he has only put in a year or 2. But this guy only has a couple more months left in his 5 year sentence...you know.

xxEquilibriumxx

03-21-2008, 07:16 PM

Well, since it's her dieng wish and it's the make a wish foundation. Send the duaghter to the jail. There are private meeting rooms with guards that allow visits. The mom shouldn't yell at the jailhouse that wont compromise, talk to the foundation who wont put up the cash itself to send the kid to the jail to stay with her father.

Shadow Fba

03-21-2008, 07:47 PM

Shinsetsu

03-21-2008, 07:48 PM

Eh the laws in this country are retarded.
People get less time for aiding Alqaida then they do for drugs.
Priorities aren't straight so rapist get out of prison ine months and someone busted with drugs gets YEARS.

It is messed up for the little girl, but it's an unfortunate mistake her father made years ago. They are both being punished because of relatively stupid laws and lengths of sentences. I could understand 1-3 years for dealing to like minors or something, but 5 years? He must have had 100 pounds of it or something.

Wanted407

03-21-2008, 10:25 PM

damn thats sucks =[

razzleson

03-21-2008, 10:32 PM

Hey guys, they did a video on the story.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/03/21/dnt.ne.child.dying.wish.ketv

Check it out.

xxEquilibriumxx

03-21-2008, 10:42 PM

CNN the liberal news station that gives only one side. That's pretty much exactly what was your first post razzle, but this is for the people who cannot read and like visual stimulants.

nightmare975

03-21-2008, 10:42 PM

How bad of a condition is she in? Could it be possible for her to come to him?

italianstallion

03-21-2008, 10:43 PM

Stallion for warden. Id make it happen, hell, I would escort him to his daugther. There is only a few things in life that mean something. Your own flesh in blood is the most important.

EvilFrankfurt

03-22-2008, 07:19 PM

How bad of a condition is she in? Could it be possible for her to come to him?

From what I heard on the radio, she's hooked up to lots of medical equipment, and that's most of what's keeping her alive.

Laufton_13

03-22-2008, 10:34 PM

It is a horrible that that they wont let him see his kid, but to fucking bad. He comitted a crime, and now has to pay the consquences. Maybe people with kids will actually think about doing stupid shit before doing it now.
You're right he commited the crime not her so why should she be punished? I hate drug dealers more so than murders but I think they should put humanity before policy in this case

KlicK

03-23-2008, 06:50 AM

You're right he commited the crime not her so why should she be punished? I hate drug dealers more so than murders but I think they should put humanity before policy in this case

As far as we know, he wasn't a drug dealer. Just a meth addict (just).

Pieface

03-23-2008, 01:15 PM

You're right he commited the crime not her so why should she be punished? I hate drug dealers more so than murders but I think they should put humanity before policy in this case
But then everyone can lose a loved one and therefore people may keep asking and therefore it carries on, it is his fault. I mean why was he taking Meth when he had a kid? I do feel sorry for the kid but its a case he ruined it for everyone.

Minty

03-23-2008, 01:39 PM

There is only a few things in life that mean something. Your own flesh in blood is the most important.

Surely if that was the case he wouldn't be in jail to start with.... If having a kid cant make you turn your back on crime, then nothing will.

blackmagic16

03-23-2008, 08:36 PM

Usually the stories I bring to you guys are off the wall, but this one really bugged me.

I know meth charges are really strict in the US (I actually went to a few cases while in high school), but this is really odd, what exactly do they need to qualify as "extreme circumstances" if this isn't?

Your thoughts? Its a bit screwed up.

Laufton_13

03-23-2008, 11:57 PM

But then everyone can lose a loved one and therefore people may keep asking and therefore it carries on, it is his fault. I mean why was he taking Meth when he had a kid? I do feel sorry for the kid but its a case he ruined it for everyone.
I know it's a bit off topic but not everyone who takes meth meant to I know a guy who had it forced on him at a party and he had serious issues, just saying not every druggie is a bad person, now drug dealers are a whole different ball game

Way Fast CBR

03-24-2008, 12:15 AM

thats fucked up that they wont let that happen. i know a few say if you do the crime then do the time, but in that cercumstance, exceptions should be made. he has served 4 years of his sentence at least. that warden sounds like a total douchebag and i hope he gets somthing bad in return for that. and hopfully he will get to see his daughter before she dies.

RogueVasion

03-24-2008, 12:24 AM

Do they ever acknowledge what type of meth charges sent him to prison? Was it selling, making, or using; this would help me settle my decision. Look at that girl...I see why you say no and why you say yes, but if the Warden did have a heart, I would allow a small visit before his daughter dies. :(

Boo47

03-24-2008, 10:13 PM

Time to look like a bastard again =)

Although it is kind of 'evil' that the prison aren't going to let him out for a short while just to see his daughter it is reasonable. If they let him see her then other people would probably start asking for similar things and it would start a whole cascade of people doing the same thing. They could always just let the girl go into the prison to see her dad when she dies and make themselves look even worse.

I agree and disagree with you at the same time, Zef. Sure, people would try to copy the guy in trying to see their families, but how many inmates have a daughter who is slowly dying of cancer?

Gorjira

03-24-2008, 10:24 PM

That last bit: "I feel she's hanging on for her dad," Vonda Yaeger said.
Is pretty touching... I think this is stupid, he should be able to go see her. Send an army out with him, but still let him go for more than a few hours.

The_Elite_Gamer708

03-24-2008, 11:18 PM

That's very sad. Her one last wish, and it was not fulfilled. All because her dad was in prison. I'm sure they could've had a cop come with or something to guard him. These kind of things make me mad!

EvilFrankfurt

03-31-2008, 01:59 PM

Well I hate to bring this up from the 3rd page, but good news and bad news. Last week the father of this little girl was allowed a 20 minute visit. Then the next day the girl died. Now the debate is all about weather he should be able to attend the funeral.

IMP4C7

03-31-2008, 02:17 PM

Thus the problem with beauracracy, politics, and disclaimers. Leaving a broad statement for something so important is what we have come accustomed to in the U.S. The meaning of the 2nd amendment of the Constitution of the United States is still being fought over, and this is supposed to be the most important document in American history.

Whoever said it earlier was correct, whenever subjective rules are set in place, someone is always going to get screwed. There are no loopholes, only yes' and no's. I agree that this is a messed up situation, but the bigger problem is our political structure. We as a people yell and scream about the things that we want and need to our "representatives", but nothing gets done unless it fits into their political agenda or fills their pockets. Sad but true.