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Shinsetsu
01-22-2008, 09:56 PM
Actor Heath Ledger has been found dead in a Manhattan apartment, New York police tell CNN.

More details to come on this, but holy crap this is a shocker moment. I could only guess foul play in this scenario but one has to wonder. Did they finish filming? What does this mean for the movie?

Otisbum
01-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Wha?

:( This really sucks. I'm gonna look this up, I loved "A Knight's Tale".
R.I.P.

EDIT: Yep. Just read it on CNN.com
That's too bad. And yes, I believe they already finished The Dark Knight, so at least we can see his final performance.

Jack Attack
01-22-2008, 10:17 PM
damn that sucks. thought he was a really good actor. wonder if tdk will still be released

Otisbum
01-22-2008, 10:20 PM
Wikipedia says filming ended some time last year, so I'm 99% sure the movie will still be coming out this year.

Impulse2119
01-22-2008, 10:21 PM
Sad news. He looks like hes going to be amazing in the dark knight. Saved his best for last I guess.

Cold Rival
01-22-2008, 10:23 PM
I loved A Knight's Tale - this is a massive shock. :( Do the police know what type of death they're dealing with yet?

Otisbum
01-22-2008, 10:25 PM
I loved A Knight's Tale - this is a massive shock. :( Do the police know what type of death they're dealing with yet? All they know so far is that he went into cardiac arrest.

Tussell
01-22-2008, 10:25 PM
Such sad news. He was a great actor, surprisingly...
Condolences to his family.
R.I.P.

Shinsetsu
01-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Apparent Drug Overdose.

F'in drugs man, taking away all the actors. That and depression.

Cold Rival
01-22-2008, 10:33 PM
All they know so far is that he went into cardiac arrest.

Well that sucks, doesn't it...? :(

He was so young, too... 28! Damn...

Impulse
01-22-2008, 10:37 PM
I seriously hope they finished that movie.. As it would be sad to see him un-cast out of it.. Plus i'm really Looking forward to it..

RIP..

Otisbum
01-22-2008, 10:38 PM
Yep.

@Shinsetsu: That really sucks. Too many go from that.

Sanction
01-22-2008, 10:41 PM
I'm reading it was from drug overdose...sleeping pills to be exact...what a shame. :(

The Dark Knight will be released, right? I've been looking forward to this for the longest time. :(

Slarak
01-22-2008, 10:43 PM
Feel real bad for his 2 yr old daughter, but its the risk you take when your druggin up.

Shinsetsu
01-22-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm reading it was from drug overdose...sleeping pills to be exact...what a shame. :(

The Dark Knight will be released, right? I've been looking forward to this for the longest time. :(

Yeah the movie is finished, apparently this is his best work ever and award winning as the role of the Joker.

Adam Miller
01-22-2008, 10:44 PM
Wow i only just heard about this film...

There are bound to be some jokes txt messages about the last laugh on the joker.

Otisbum
01-22-2008, 10:48 PM
Yeah the movie is finished, apparently this is his best work ever and award winning as the role of the Joker. It looks like it's gonna be amazing.

I liked Nicholson's Joker too.

Daggermn
01-22-2008, 10:52 PM
I had just heard about this about 20 minutes ago from a workmate. I was so shocked. I must have asked her 3 times "who?" This really sucks. He was a great actor and a new father too. It is so sad when actors die in their prime. RIP.

xxEquilibriumxx
01-22-2008, 10:58 PM
Sooo brokeback mountain 2 isn't in the making? I should feel bad, he was a great actor I don't know if it was suicide or just being dumb, but he must have have been a very sad guy and it's a shame he didn't get help because he could have been one of the best in this generation.

Deyankees1
01-22-2008, 11:03 PM
Police told MSNBC that it appeared to be a suicide. Sad news he was a great actor.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/?GT1=10755

Tussell
01-22-2008, 11:10 PM
Personally, I highly doubt it was a suicide... Possibly pressure got the best of him, but I still doubt it.

The Geest
01-22-2008, 11:17 PM
Totally stunned by this news from an actor that seemed to shun the limelight and stay out of the headlines.

A Tragic loss to his family and also the movie world.

Let's hope that his performance in The Dark Knight is as good as reports from his fellow actors and director suggest and that his last film is a fitting epitaph.

R.I.P. Heath Ledger

Netnabi4
01-22-2008, 11:27 PM
I also feel deep condolences for the family and the 2 year old daughter. Such a tragic end to what seemed like an actors prime.

Xerofox
01-22-2008, 11:28 PM
I just heard it from a mate of mine, this is really shocking.
Too bad people always think the worst of it, suicide.

RIP Heath Ledger

SoaringEagle
01-22-2008, 11:29 PM
wow, thats so sad, i found about it on this site, how did it happen?

omg, thats is actually so bad

Matrarch
01-22-2008, 11:30 PM
I was pretty shocked when I heard about this too. Alot of the time with famous people or other folks in the news, someone passes and it's like well... they were getting up there, but he's right around my age, and that's downright sad. No one should go that young.

I just feel really bad for his little girl though...

Frizzed
01-22-2008, 11:39 PM
R.I.P and my condolences go out to his family and friends. :(

Yet another Aussie legend dies.

GalrenCreptus
01-22-2008, 11:41 PM
I was shocked as well, one of my co-workers asked if knew who he was and when I told them I did they said he was just found dead, immediately looked it up. Didn't see Brokeback Mountain but all the others things I've seen him in I thought he did great, The Patriot, 10 Things I Hate About You, A Knight's Tale, the tv series Roar etc.

RIP Heath Ledger

KWEY516
01-22-2008, 11:44 PM
man this is a shocker just got on the computer and saw that i loved a knights tale and lords of dogtown he was a great actor

Steed
01-22-2008, 11:56 PM
R.I.P.

Blah, it always sucks to hear when someone dies.

Minty
01-23-2008, 12:01 AM
People with kids shouldnt do drugs, they have more responsibilities than anyone else.

Its a shame, but when its self inflicted, its meh....

Tussell
01-23-2008, 12:22 AM
People with kids shouldnt do drugs, they have more responsibilities than anyone else.

Its a shame, but when its self inflicted, its meh....
Hahahaha, but people without kids should sit back, shoot up, and trip? :p

Minty
01-23-2008, 12:29 AM
Hahahaha, but people without kids should sit back, shoot up, and trip? :p

Not saying that, but I know if I had a 2 year old kid I would be drug free 24/7. AT the moment I dont, so I dont have to be (if i was to choose not to be ;))

Sanction
01-23-2008, 12:31 AM
Not saying that, but I know if I had a 2 year old kid I would be drug free 24/7. AT the moment I dont, so I dont have to be (if i was to choose not to be ;))

Are you saying you aren't drug free 24/7? :eek:

Tubson57
01-23-2008, 12:35 AM
Man, i was a big fan of his too. I guess it just gives me more incentive to watch the new batman movie.

Minty
01-23-2008, 12:35 AM
Are you saying you aren't drug free 24/7? :eek:

Some people class Rock'n'Roll as a drug :p

Gebadire
01-23-2008, 12:43 AM
Just caught this on the news! Shame, only 28 as well! Damn overdose! Have to keep an eye out for The Dark Knight!...

Sanction
01-23-2008, 12:43 AM
Some people class Rock'n'Roll as a drug :p

Then call me mr. drug addict and sign me up for rehab. :p

WiiZero
01-23-2008, 12:44 AM
Kinda Ironic right before the movie comes out he dies some weird voodoo shit

n1n3t33nd3lta
01-23-2008, 01:02 AM
wow...tdk is gonna be killer, too bad he wasn't around to see it open.

Tussell
01-23-2008, 01:04 AM
Yeah, it's really sad when people pass away before a movie of theirs is released. Not to mention this movie has a great following right now, and it would have been nice to see him at the opening.

Impulse2119
01-23-2008, 01:13 AM
Now I'm hoping the joker gets killed in the dark knight because no one can replace him as the joker in the 3rd movie. So far it looks like he has done an incredible job with the character.

CAMOUFLAGEiPOD
01-23-2008, 01:45 AM
My condolences go out to his family and friends. He was fantastic in Lords of Dogtown.
RIP

MrDudeMan
01-23-2008, 01:46 AM
I was actually saddened when I heard this. He was a good actor, and he was doing a great job (from what I've seen in the trailer) in The Dark Knight.

R.I.P. Heath Ledger

But...does anyone notice any similarities to The Crow? Brandon Lee died during the making of that, and both The Crow and Nolan's Joker look almost exactly the same.

Tussell
01-23-2008, 02:03 AM
I highly doubt there is anything relating the two of them.

MrDudeMan
01-23-2008, 02:10 AM
I highly doubt there is anything relating the two of them.
I know, I just think its an odd coincidence.

Chrome30
01-23-2008, 02:19 AM
R.I.P. Mr. Ledger...you will be missed. The good die young, unfortunately.

APX
01-23-2008, 02:56 AM
Apparently he had pneumonia when he took the sleeping pills, so it was probably to get away from the pain of the coughing and aches and just get sleep. It is a very damn shame he had to leave us, he was still young and still had much more to do in films.

R.I.P.

antnie
01-23-2008, 03:02 AM
That sucks, but he still finished the batman movie.

Augustus
01-23-2008, 03:22 AM
People with kids shouldnt do drugs, they have more responsibilities than anyone else.

Its a shame, but when its self inflicted, its meh....
This is exactly how I feel.

I don't want to sound mean, but I have zero sympathy for him. His family, though, I feel sorry for.

APX
01-23-2008, 03:28 AM
This is exactly how I feel.

I don't want to sound mean, but I have zero sympathy for him. His family, though, I feel sorry for.

So if you were sick, in pain and there was no way to get rid of it except for a pain killer/sleeping pill, and you suddenly died, we shouldn't feel sorry for you?

Done deal, because your the loser who took the drugs. :)

xENVxGAMERSKREW
01-23-2008, 03:29 AM
i heard this on the radio first didnt believe it but then they sounded serious that sucks

mlodoss
01-23-2008, 05:39 AM
This is totally a BAD and SAD thing.....


Its sad, because he was young as hell and a cool actor (I remember "The Patriot")


Its BAD, because, "The Dark Knight" movie might not come out, like another movie didn't because Chris Farley died (as he was a star in it).

MrDudeMan
01-23-2008, 05:58 AM
This is totally a BAD and SAD thing.....


Its sad, because he was young as hell and a cool actor (I remember "The Patriot")


Its BAD, because, "The Dark Knight" movie might not come out, like another movie didn't because Chris Farley died (as he was a star in it).
Yeah, but remember The Crow? Brandon Lee died during filming ('accidental' gunshot), yet they completed the movie. They were mostly done with it before he died. After his death, they dressed someone else up and filmed a scene showing only the back of the stand in.

Besides, I think filming for TDK is already done...don't quote me on that.

exo-apollo
01-23-2008, 10:27 AM
This is exactly how I feel.

I don't want to sound mean, but I have zero sympathy for him. His family, though, I feel sorry for.

Yeah you actually have it all wrong. It's not like he was shooting up smack or something, he had sleeping issues and took some doctor prescribed medicine to help with it. Make sure you research these things before you insult people with your comments.

SuperSouter
01-23-2008, 10:30 AM
This is really sad, I loved him in a Knights Tale

edit:Batman film is in post production, its all filmed they just need to put it together.

Also does anyone see any resemblance between this and Brandon Lee with the crow film, it just kinda reminded of it with the Jokers white make up.
I know its not related but its still just a bit weird.

ZombieJediMastr
01-23-2008, 12:17 PM
Such a sad thing. He was a very good actor. RIP.

Xterm1n8or
01-23-2008, 12:27 PM
The worst thing is that apparently he accidentally overdosed or something.

A great actor, a son and somebodys father died yesterday when there was absolutely no reason for him to. This is truly saddening.

RIP and condolences to his family.

Otisbum
01-23-2008, 12:28 PM
From NBC:
So apparently Ledger's reason for the sleeping pills is because the role of the Joker was so creepy that he couldn't sleep after filming it.

:(

Justicezero
01-23-2008, 02:42 PM
http://perezhilton.com/2008-01-23-the-latest-on-the-heath-ledger-tragedy

Some Answers to some questions about the Heath Ledger Death

-It wasn't an overdose.
- He wasn't suicidal
- He DID have sleeping problems, but didn't die of an overdose.
- His best role he felt was The Joker

(sadly I had to look at a site my girlfriend uses for celebrity news, but it had more information then most places)

XxArmeddyxX
01-23-2008, 02:50 PM
This is exactly how I feel.

I don't want to sound mean, but I have zero sympathy for him. His family, though, I feel sorry for.

Well, he was crook with pneumonia and he took sleeping pills so a lot of the people reckon that it was just a tragic accident. Anyway, might as well wait for the autopsy before condemning him to hell and gone

hansoco
01-23-2008, 03:01 PM
He was a great actor and too young to die. My Condolences to his family.

Justicezero
01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Well, he was crook with pneumonia and he took sleeping pills so a lot of the people reckon that it was just a tragic accident. Anyway, might as well wait for the autopsy before condemning him to hell and gone

I'm counting it as a tragic accident myself...who would really off themself when your biggest role of your life is about to come out. And it's pretty difficult to OD on sleeping pills...most OD's on sleeping pills usually involve ridiculous amounts of them and alcohol.

David and Jared
01-23-2008, 03:52 PM
Who says it was sleeping pills? For all we know, it was Cocaine, Heroin, or something like it. We really won't know until autopsy reports come out.

Sanction
01-23-2008, 04:00 PM
Who says it was sleeping pills? For all we know, it was Cocaine, Heroin, or something like it. We really won't know until autopsy reports come out.

Because of this (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/23/2144369.htm).

"There were pills around his body, prescription pills."



I think that rules out coke, heroine, or any type of other...non prescription drug.

fatces
01-23-2008, 04:10 PM
damn, that's sad. my girlfriend give me the news yesterday and we couldn't belive it. it'll be sad when we're watching the dark knight:(

R.I.P

marcodecca
01-23-2008, 06:10 PM
I know, I just think its an odd coincidence.

And both of them where 28 when they died...
*dun dun dun*

RIP Mr. Ledger, you will be missed...

M85A21
01-23-2008, 06:13 PM
Far too young to die.
Condolences needed.
Tragic accidents happen.

SuperSouter
01-23-2008, 06:40 PM
I bought A Knights Tale off ebay this morning because I wanted to have a piece of him before money hungry people charge horrible prices for something that shouldn't be.

He was such a good actor :( I was really shocked

Augustus
01-23-2008, 07:17 PM
Yeah you actually have it all wrong. It's not like he was shooting up smack or something, he had sleeping issues and took some doctor prescribed medicine to help with it. Make sure you research these things before you insult people with your comments.
First of all, I'm not sure whom I'm offending, but ok. Secondly, there's a big difference between taking the prescribed dosage of sleeping pills and overdosing on them and dying. And don't say it wasn't an overdose, either, whatever TMZ says. Accidental or not, he didn't follow the directions and now a little girl is going to grow up without her father.

Otisbum
01-23-2008, 10:25 PM
I bought A Knights Tale off ebay this morning because I wanted to have a piece of him before money hungry people charge horrible prices for something that shouldn't be.

He was such a good actor :( I was really shocked One of the best movies that I've seen with him in it, if not the best so far.

10 Things I Hate About You is really good too, if you can tolerate/like chick-flicks.

APX
01-23-2008, 10:52 PM
First of all, I'm not sure whom I'm offending, but ok. Secondly, there's a big difference between taking the prescribed dosage of sleeping pills and overdosing on them and dying. And don't say it wasn't an overdose, either, whatever TMZ says. Accidental or not, he didn't follow the directions and now a little girl is going to grow up without her father.

Because the man was sick, he's just like other people who are sick, they take an extra pill/sip of medicine because they think it will make them get better quicker. If you didn't read the reports, don't attack a dead man all of the sudden, it's pretty much low if you do.

"lul, he's dead, now I can attack him and say he was a druggie"

hellomynameisjosh
01-23-2008, 10:52 PM
ya i saw it on the homepage of msn. pretty sad. its gonna be weird watching batman: "The Dark Knight" knowing hes dead.:confused:

exo-apollo
01-24-2008, 08:43 AM
First of all, I'm not sure whom I'm offending, but ok. Secondly, there's a big difference between taking the prescribed dosage of sleeping pills and overdosing on them and dying. And don't say it wasn't an overdose, either, whatever TMZ says. Accidental or not, he didn't follow the directions and now a little girl is going to grow up without her father.

You are offending fans of his who enjoyed his movies and respected him as a genuinely nice person and good actor. Yes it was an accidental overdose but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy for him. That's like saying someone who didn't look twice and got hit by a bus deserved to die.

XxArmeddyxX
01-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Yeah, its upsetting. I'm an Aussie, so its been all over the news over here. It sucks, i was looking forward to the Dark Knight, apparently he played the part really well so should be good to watch. Also, Knight's Tale kicked a$$ :D

Honkymagoo
01-24-2008, 04:49 PM
I heard overdose a few days ago.

avengerRPM
01-24-2008, 05:28 PM
Sad to hear, especially for a real fan.

I thoroughly enjoyed every single movie of his that I ever saw, actually saw him in person once too, becuase I live a few miles from Tacoma, WA where 10 Thing I Hate About You was filmed in a local highschool and some friends and I went out for the open casting call for extras, but I didn't make it. A couple friends were in the bleachers when he did the singing bit as he was running back and forth from the cops.

Also, Brokeback Mountain was an amazing movie. I watched it with an open mind and the story was amazingly sad, and both Ledger and Gyllenhal gave great performances. Anyone who has not seen it should, if only as a tribute to his life.

Very much looking forward to The Dark Night, will probably go see it on opening night. It would be really cool if a portion of the proceeds from the movie went to some charity in his name, or set up some sort of fund for something.

Minty
01-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Because the man was sick, he's just like other people who are sick, they take an extra pill/sip of medicine because they think it will make them get better quicker. If you didn't read the reports, don't attack a dead man all of the sudden, it's pretty much low if you do.

I'm sorry, but there's a difference from 'My headaches bad so I will take 3 Aspirin not 2' to 'My head hurts so I'm going to take 30 and OD on em'. And just because it's prescribed medicine doesn't mean you can't get addicted and abuse your body with them.

The first autopsy was inconclusive, so going to have to wait 10 days for the toxicology reports to come back.

Either way it's a great shame.

KWEY516
01-24-2008, 11:25 PM
im glad someone bought up brandon lee i was gonna discuss that yeah the movie well probely still be released the crow was a great movie and maybe the death of heath will generate alot of sales for dark knight

APX
01-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I'm sorry, but there's a difference from 'My headaches bad so I will take 3 Aspirin not 2' to 'My head hurts so I'm going to take 30 and OD on em'. And just because it's prescribed medicine doesn't mean you can't get addicted and abuse your body with them.


And that's why I said it, he wasn't a drug user or an abuser, so just don't point it to "yeah, he's a 100% drug user" just because of this bad accident. Did you not read what me and a few other people said? The man had pneumonia, and he was also stressed from the whole joker deal, and he was also doing a film the week before this all happend. So you have a very sick man that is also stressed and just wants to get better quicker.

hopesfall2win
01-25-2008, 03:11 AM
And that's why I said it, he wasn't a drug user or an abuser, so just don't point it to "yeah, he's a 100% drug user" just because of this bad accident. Did you not read what me and a few other people said? The man had pneumonia, and he was also stressed from the whole joker deal, and he was also doing a film the week before this all happend. So you have a very sick man that is also stressed and just wants to get better quicker.

Wasn't he found naked? When i'm sick and taking medicine, i usually don't strip naked and then take pills..

Not saying its a definite suicide or anything, its just weird that he'd be naked. Maybe I'm mistaken, but pretty sure I heard that on tv..

APX
01-25-2008, 03:14 AM
Wasn't he found naked? When i'm sick and taking medicine, i usually don't strip naked and then take pills..

Not saying its a definite suicide or anything, its just weird that he'd be naked. Maybe I'm mistaken, but pretty sure I heard that on tv..


Because the man had a massage that day, ever taken a massage fully clothed?

XxArmeddyxX
01-25-2008, 03:14 AM
Wasn't he found naked? When i'm sick and taking medicine, i usually don't strip naked and then take pills..

Not saying its a definite suicide or anything, its just weird that he'd be naked. Maybe I'm mistaken, but pretty sure I heard that on tv..

Haha nah, you were right, he was naked, but thats his thing. he actually likes to sleep in the nude, don't ask me why lol. And i suppose since he took sleeping pills that actually makes sense

GameFreak47
01-25-2008, 04:40 AM
I really do feel bad for him and his family.

I admit, taking more then what was prescribed isn't the smartest thing, but he didn't deserve to go out like that.

I am probably gonna catch Dark Knight opening week. Looks like a good movie. It's just a shame his career ended so suddenly.

Augustus
01-25-2008, 06:48 AM
Also, Brokeback Mountain was an amazing movie. I watched it with an open mind and the story was amazingly sad, and both Ledger and Gyllenhal gave great performances. Anyone who has not seen it should, if only as a tribute to his life.

I'm not going to lie, I really do detest that movie on the whole, but Ledger gave a very good performance in it. If he was in a weaker acting class for the Academy Awards that year, he would have won no problem. It could have really gone to anyone but Joaquin Phoenix that year and I'd have been satisfied.

XxArmeddyxX
01-25-2008, 06:53 AM
I'm not going to lie, I really do detest that movie on the whole, but Ledger gave a very good performance in it. If he was in a weaker acting class for the Academy Awards that year, he would have won no problem. It could have really gone to anyone but Joaquin Phoenix that year and I'd have been satisfied.

Haha what's not to love about a movie featuring gay cowboys? :rolleyes: lol

Augustus
01-25-2008, 06:58 AM
Haha what's not to love about a movie featuring gay cowboys? :rolleyes: lol
Mostly the fact that the movie tried to force every last emotion out of you with those awful "tearjerker" scenes and the soundtrack being what it is. I know you can't really do this, but if it was a movie about a typical love story it would have gotten little to no praise whatsoever. Because the man had a massage that day, ever taken a massage fully clothed?
What the fuck is your problem? You're probably one of those people who still thinks Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain. Look, just because he's famous and you enjoy watching him doesn't mean he's a normal, perfectly balanced guy. Everyone has their issues, it's just how they're dealt with.

APX
01-25-2008, 07:05 AM
What the fuck is your problem? You're probably one of those people who still thinks Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain. Look, just because he's famous and you enjoy watching him doesn't mean he's a normal, perfectly balanced guy. Everyone has their issues, it's just how they're dealt with.


Woah, when did we start talking about Kurt? I don't even care about that guy, sure, he was famous and a good musician (not really) But don't bring up something as retarded as that,ok?

And when did I say he was a normal, balanced guy? i'm stating the facts here.

Facts: He was SICK (pneumonia), apparently he liked to sleep in the nude, he was so obsessed with the people talking about he'd never make a good Joker, he made it consume him and made he so secluded to his friends and other people.

So don't attack me for stating facts, got it? :)

AZ Mongoose
01-26-2008, 10:29 AM
Condolences to his family. RIP

JoEy0808
01-26-2008, 03:58 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO i cant be live i havnt heard about this he was an amazing actor all of his movies were good 10 things i hate about you knights tale and all the others he did NOOOOOOOOOO

Nick G 42390
01-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Didn't see it mentioned, but, did anyone else see the comment that the Ultimate Warrior said after he found out about this? Just read and you'll see...

In the interest of full disclosure, I must tell you I have watched Brokeback Mountain no less than 45 times and I own the Limited Edition DVD, signed by Willie Nelson a short time after he wrote that queer cowboy song as a tribute to the courage of the producers and actors who broke such incredible creative ground when they made their agenda-less movie. Serious. Until I saw Bendover Brokeback, Braveheart was my favorite movie. But the love scenes of Brokeback sucked me right in and I had no choice but to give myself over to the passion of its wide open range, if you get my drift. Such courage this young man and his collaegues have. Reminds me of the courage of classic movie stars, where during the War they enlisted and flew bomber planes and fought on frontlines, then came back and picked up their lives and careers right where they left off, without anti-American sentiment, whining and complaining, or self-destructive self indulgence. I’m equally inspired.

Apparently, Leather Hedger had sleeping troubles and anxiety and dealt with terrible mood swings. So do soldiers but they don’t self-destructively f*** up their lives. In fact, they don’t sleep, handle anxiety and mood swings while dealing with whether or not they might at any moment lose their life. And they do this all the while they are dangerously protecting the freedom of others to f*** up their own. By the way, how many 28 (or older or younger) year old soldiers met their death yesterday? It’s not easy to find out. None of them made the headlines of any news.

By today’s standard, though, I do have to agree that he was a great father. Perhaps even greater then the father of the year, Hulk Hogan. After all, Leather Hedger did what it took to kill himself. His kid is without a father, yes, but the negative influence is now removed and his own child has the chance for a full recovery. Hogan, on the other hand, won’t go quite that far. He insists on sticking around to keep further ruining, and profiting off of, the parentally mismanaged lives of his own children.

It is sad and tragic ... that we don't demand attention be paid to greater things.

jfank
01-28-2008, 07:46 AM
You have to admit though he did go out with a bang. Played the Joker in a Batman movie, which is one of the most popular films to be seen. Plus he has a daughter, and I don't know if him and Michelle are still engaged or not. (Before the death) I asked my neighbor whom is a extremely good and popular doctor in this area that with sleeping pills it is easy to over dose on them. So if he over dosed on the pills it surely could have been an accident. We will just have to wait and see. I will say he was a very good actor though. I always liked watching his films EXCEPT BrokeBack Mountain.

benbam87
01-28-2008, 08:58 AM
Well I do not know if it was mentioned but it was thought it might not be just the tablets, they found a $20 note with cocaine on it so they think it may be the mixture of the two.

CR JD92
01-28-2008, 09:00 AM
Well I do not know if it was mentioned but it was thought it might not be just the tablets, they found a $20 note with cocaine on it so they think it may be the mixture of the two.

Whatever the cause it was really bad news to here, especially since he had so much more potential as an actor and had his whole career ahead of him.

exo-apollo
01-28-2008, 11:26 AM
Well I do not know if it was mentioned but it was thought it might not be just the tablets, they found a $20 note with cocaine on it so they think it may be the mixture of the two.

Lulz dude they just found a twenty dollar not near his body, there were no drugs. it was funny to hear on the news " Police also found a $20 bill near his body", when it means nothing.

Minty
01-28-2008, 12:20 PM
Not many people roll up $20 notes for no reason tho....