Gaara King Of the Tower

[xLCDx]

YouTube - Gaara King Of the tower Record

I dont know what the record is but I got to 4 with Gaara. It took me 6 days before I could actually get there though.

LOL my dad is in the background playing Madden on PS3 yelling at me.

[SynysterChris]

dude your garbage you use the same cheap move over and over again with garra.

[xLCDx]

thats what you told to do lol.

[III Vesper III]

First off hes not garbage, His opponents are garbage. He is "Pressing the advantage" by using a tactic that works then constantly using it is not cheap by no means. All his opponents had to do was Parry down... err Substitute down.

Second off the fighting engine is garbage and which there is such a minimal gap between above average players and the high-end ones.

Third he is infact garbage for posting a video that caused mental anguish in the fighting game community.

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[SynysterChris]

no but its the fact that people exploit that cheap trick with garra if im garra and i fight a half way decient person i can take out at least 80% of their health with one move and the fact that their is only a .001 sec leway to counter that attack is cheap by all terms this game is broken I'll be the First to State that but there are plenty of people that do not exploit any of these lame moves over and over and still kick your ass Memphis Legends is by far one of the best ive ever played along with hardcase and vega and Hyper4Liquid. so as i said this kid is garbage and also most is everybudy who uses gara. and the guys he played they did the same thing all garbage 90% of people in this game all they know how to do is mash XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and >XXXXXXXXXXXX >XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or the Y's

[Bajan Elite]

u make a guide and then you rank on them for using your suggestion wow pathetic and did you say memphis legends I faced that guy a total of five times and hes exploited the same move over and over, you dont play with them all the time so u dont see how they play so whatever.

[Bajan Elite]

he does however suck since a posted a vid featuring the games cheesiest character, hey i beat the tower with Gaara but that's nothing to brag about, my only problem without the combat is the fact that u can't use substitution jutsu in mid-air, it wud help against those guys who repeatedly knock u in the air to unleash mid-air combos. Actually though if the achievements were for just winning a total amount of fights with each character instead having to win the tower then i'd be fine. What if you get to the fifth spot and you have to go to the store or run another errand u can't save ya progress or nothing then u have to start all over.

[III Vesper III]

no but its the fact that people exploit that cheap trick with garra if im garra and i fight a half way decient person i can take out at least 80% of their health with one move and the fact that their is only a .001 sec leway to counter that attack is cheap by all terms this game is broken I'll be the First to State that but there are plenty of people that do not exploit any of these lame moves over and over and still kick your ass Memphis Legends is by far one of the best ive ever played along with hardcase and vega and Hyper4Liquid. so as i said this kid is garbage and also most is everybudy who uses gara. and the guys he played they did the same thing all garbage 90% of people in this game all they know how to do is mash XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and >XXXXXXXXXXXX >XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or the Y's

I understand your frustration, the last character I beat the exam with was infact Gaara, and I did get 3 perfects in a row from the 2nd round.

But there is one simple fact, the mashing of xxxx and >xxxx is really all there is to this game it is not in-depth at all. I beat this with zabuza without doing a single combo all I did was just jump back and do a regular x then summon a justsu then win. And throw lots of kunais to make them waste chakra when they wanted to substitute.

Ubisoft did a horrible job on the fighting engine, like I said the gap is so small its horrible.

1. Unblockables

2. The rage metre reappears even when you strategically run away to force them to use it. They can use it on the next hit.

3. Throwing is extremely slow and not instant so all you have is this silly substituion fest of mashing B.

4. No timing window for substituion, all people do is mash B when getting hit by a combo and they will get it 100% of the time. This is flawed in the fact that the shortest combo is the best in this game.

5. Zero timing in combos, This is why gaara is so easy to play instead of looking on when you press the button you can simply have a visual que when to press the next. This is why I really despise 3d fighting games but this is kinda biased.

6. Unblockables have almost no penalty, and can't be substituted out of. The only matches I rememeber losing are the ones where I am randomly getting hit by a jump in Y followed by a X because its only a 2 hit combo. Thus If you didn't block the initial hit it is an inevitable jutsu on you.

Though I can think of many ways to fix this game. Such as unblockables using chakra or the fact that there is actually down-time when spamming attacks.

Make it so you cannot substitute when your back is facing the opponent. And make the timing to substitue very strict. Also change your location of your jutsu depending on the direction you press B with so for example, ^B will substitute you behind the opponent in the air for an air attack.

It is very simple to have key balancing ideas when you actually look at half-decent fighting game. But ubisoft fails and all you see is more repetition than assasins creed. It is mind boggling.



Playing to win is always the #1 rule in my book. If there is an exploit or some type of abusable you have to go for it. When your time is on the line do your best.

[xLCDx]

WOW once i beat it with every charcter I wont suck either way and thx for the people who supported me.

[Akamaru_Sensei]

"2. The rage metre reappears even when you strategically run away to force them to use it. They can use it on the next hit."

As you know Vesper my Rage mode never ends, EEVVVER in this game, haha

[IceKingz]

Vesper I totally agree. This game doesn't have enough work into it to complete the fighting system yet. It's horribly unbalance but there is some sort of strategy to it:
-Cheap combos (unfortunately but when I learned the ^Y combos, I got about 5 of the characters in one day when the previous 3 took me about a month each)

-Knowing what to do in certain situations
Knowing what your opponent will do (pretty predictable) overlasting your opponenet etc.

I'm sorry to say because I used to be against cheap moves but when I figured out that's BY FAR the easiest way to win, I was just in it to get the achievements. I've never and probably won't until I beat everyone's FoD will ever go into the challenge rounds.

[III Vesper III]

I got all the FoD achievements without doing combos. It is so flawed I seriously cannot believe they play tested this. I wanted to play this game for a challenge but instead it has just brought me grief. I can point out so many things that they should change to make it better that its hard to even think that someone actually thought this was ready for launch.

[xLCDx]

lol wow I thought this game was pretty well thought out. Especially for an anime. The style of gameplay was an awsome idea. i give developers props.

[III Vesper III]

Thats because you obviously have no idea about high level play. I just got a perfect with shikamaru by only doing throws on the 5th round. That is good game design.

[Bajan Elite]

it wouldn't seem as bad if ppl would just play the way the game was intended you know play for fun and not just trying to get achievements especially since most of the ppl i've been facing r using the new characters, i have to tell every single one of them that they r wasting their time that its bugged. one guy stopped fighting cause he was pissed, anyway i've run across a few ppl who try to utilize the different combos in this game and i have some fun and pretty close matches, also if they weren't so afraid of losing then they wud fight with skill instead of chessy crap.

[IceKingz]

See that's where it gets weird for me. I don't like how unbalanced the gameplay is and such but for some reason, I get addicted to playing online. It's repetitive, lacking variety, and lots of other things but I still enjoy playing it and I don't see how.

That's how I was with DoA4, I say I hate fighting games because they can be the most agrivating games ever but for some reason I find myself playing them the most besides your average adventure game.

Edit: Vesper, I also had a similar thing happen in FoD. It was the day I learned about that ^Y combo and so I had about 4 people already. I decided to use Zabuza and I saw that he couldn't use that combo. I still won just by button mashing because he was so strong. That definately shows you that you can win by anyway. (My jaw dropped when you said you won with just grabs, that's pretty cool)

[xLCDx]

So wait are all new character achievements glitched or just sarutobi and Jaraiya?

I bought both packs

[IceKingz]

So far (from what I've heard) both of them don't work. The only new character that is working is Shikamaru. Chances are they will fix that later but it's probably all going to be done all at once. They will probably add more characters and instead of patching each one seperately, they will just get one big patch to fix the issue.

[Akamaru_Sensei]

If the next set comes out, i hope they don't rehash the special mini games again (i.e. Temari/3rd Hokage) it makes me sad as if they are running out of ideas or something)

[xLCDx]

ahhh man that sucks.

[SynysterChris]

Ok Im sorry that Im just a little pissed at most people that keep use the same retarted button mashing ability and then yelling at you that you are cheap and not letting them hit you. But this game could have been very good if they would have just taken some more time on the main aspect of the game the fighting. Hey just look Dragon Ball z buduaki 3 was the prime example of a Anime Fighting game done right, Even Hardcore fighting game fans actually addmitting it was a solid fighting game. Like you said vesper they just needed to tweak a few things like the subustion and this could have make a great fighting game.

[I GRIMJOW I]

So far (from what I've heard) both of them don't work. The only new character that is working is Shikamaru. Chances are they will fix that later but it's probably all going to be done all at once. They will probably add more characters and instead of patching each one seperately, they will just get one big patch to fix the issue.

It's true that his achievement is unlocked after you beat the 5th round with him, the 15 points were accumulated with my total gamerscore in the beginning, but shortly after that were deducted again :uzi:. So his achievement isn't to be called 'working' at this moment.

[Akamaru_Sensei]

Hey just look Dragon Ball z buduaki 3 was the prime example of a Anime Fighting game done right,

I totaly agree, that was probably the best fighting anime i had played, everything just worked so well, but i also love smash brothers if u can slip that in as animeish kinda.

[IceKingz]

Ya, SSBB is something that I'm psyched for. That sucks that the Shikamaru is glitchy too. I guess when I get my Xbox back I'll only go for Oroch and Kiba and then wait a little while.

Ya, they could have fixed it nice. I see why you can be mad now because of the rep situation. People get mad and everytime they lose, lower your rep in a process of 5 extra seconds. Those are the people that drive me mad. There were two times I did that and one guy was cussing me out during the game for now reason and the other guy I can't remember but probably the same thing.

I actually did get nice rep because I said 'good game' to someone. That made my day. :)

[Akamaru_Sensei]

off the topic a bit, but SSBB got pushed back to March 9th, makes me cry a bit on the inside, but yes as far as rep, i tend to say good game at the end of every match, otherwise i just turn off my mic and scream at the tv. But 8/10 times i encounter someone NO ONE talks, i dunno why, it tends only to be the nice people that will talk.

[Akatsuki Sw1tch]

I have never even attempted to go through any of the forest of death exams, As i found the combat really poor in this game & easily the biggest let down along with the length of the story arc, So if it takes cheese to win with certain Characters i'm not surprised, Let's hope if they do another naruto game on the 360 they make the combat & jutsu's better (Like Shippuuden Accell 2)

[III Vesper III]

Not as long as ubisoft makes these games. They seem to enjoy repetition.

[Bajan Elite]

I hope you are allowed to play as other characters during the next game's storyline instead of just Naruto, it make it a bit longer, revamp the combat system and add most stats to the characters, i mean speed, strength and range isn't all they have going. What they should do is change it to Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Taijutsu(not sure i spelled them right but u all know wat i mean), and maybe durability, i mean let's get serious, Lee may be strong but the amount of health he can take away from Sakura would be a lot more than from Kakashi adding more life bars like in DBZ would help so the less durable opponents won't good down so fast and matches can last a bit longer, also when the characters talk before a fight plzz let the lips move...how hard is that?

[Ghostly Legend 24]

they need to add the byakugan to neji's jutsu list and they need new characters like hinata kimmimaru kidomaru and the others but they need to make the characters free!!!!

[Bajan Elite]

i agree we need more characters, we should have had them from the beginning but they need to focus on fixing the glitched achievements and just start working on a better fighting system for the sequel, releasing more characters wont really help a thing, it's more ridiculously cheesy combos for noobs to exploit and more broken gameplay to face. They don't really need to go for 1250 GS its just a waste. We need to start one of those petition things about changin the combat and improving it cause i belive we'll get the same thing in the next game, if enough ppl complain they have to listen.

[III Vesper III]

it's more ridiculously cheesy combos for noobs to exploit and more broken gameplay to face.

Now as much as I dislike the game system, there is such thing as high-end play and consistent winning. State these "Cheesy Combos" or "Exploited Broken" Gameplay and I bet you I can reply with many counters for it.

[SynysterChris]

Now as much as I dislike the game system, there is such thing as high-end play and consistent winning. State these "Cheesy Combos" or "Exploited Broken" Gameplay and I bet you I can reply with many counters for it.

Of course thats how many of the tops on the boards are winning they are able to exploit the moves with the top tier characters and also get out of moves that most think are unblockable or that you cant get out of.

[IceKingz]

The part where SOME strategy comes in can also be how to prevent those unblockables from ever happening. Evertime I face a Gaara player, I either play airborn or with ^Y because they can't get you caught in the sand as much since it's slower. The main point though is that no one in here is wrong and basically, this game does need improvement.

[III Vesper III]

I am asking to state what they are.

[IceKingz]

Me? If so, some things I've noticed when facing others are just a few things but they seem to beat me with them:

Fast side stepping with certain characters dodged almost every attack I threw, when I missed, they attacked and soon I found myself dead.

Against ^Y players, Jumping and kicking to the ground seems to actually do good most of the time, they just don't seem to hit me afterwards.

If possible, if you get knocked back far, go for Chakra Concentration Lvl 1 if they are trying to get a high Jutsu.

Usually most people have a certain way they fight, they are either ^Y, jumping guys, DownA(a launching attack I think) and some people who just use combos. Occasionally you will face really good people who use all of these techniques but like I said, some ways to counter ^Y players and those Down A guys can be defeated by timing when you hit ^Y right after they get ready to launch you.

Not much when I say strategy but that's pretty much the only definition of strategy I could find on this game.

Edit: I also don't know if you are talking to me or Synester but I typed this mini guide thing anyways =P

[III Vesper III]

I just abuse throws, against people who use sidestepping, I just stand there still and let them hit me, then I just substitute then I hit low since nobody blocks low, then do a quick lvl 1 jutsu. Against a jumper once again I just sit there like im AFK and let them hit me, then substitute they will most likely follow up with Y to do the double jump attack, then I throw them. Agaisnt people who like to substitute me and do a launcher attack such as Naruto's or Sasukes one button launcher like v+Y. I use a low substitute and throw them. I go for 100% consistency and people have to understand how valuable low attacks are.

Also everytime I knock someone down with a low attack I perfectly time my melee kunai and it is a free hit everytime. Very important. I was referring to mister chris, But I think he confused himself more than me.

[Ghostly Legend 24]

i agree with bajan elite

[Bajan Elite]

i've executed a lot of counters for these cheesy combos but it doesn't always work plus it leaves my hand aching from all the button mashing, the sidestepping is the worst cause i'm coming across it a lot lately, i've only manage to beat the twoer with Gaara(which doesn't take much skill) and Rock Lee who in my opinion can be the most fun and the most annoying opponent. Another problem is the stats i mean the Hokage's speed isn't that fast yet when i face him he seems to rival Lee and Sakura, Gaara's strength is one yet he doesn't take much to kill u its all a pain. Let's see wat else sucks okay um, the ability to counter you're opponent is cool but mostly the way its done sucks, like for Gaara, Kakashi and Sasuke whe u miss the button icon you have to then button mash to win i hate that, why must developers continue to add button mashing in video games. They finally took it out of the wwe games wen it came to submissions and even though the new way isn't all that great its better than button mashing. That's why I will always prefer DBZ fighters to this and any other anime fighter but i bet button mashing is gonna come back for burst limit sigh

[SynysterChris]

Ya i dont mind button mashing im not the greatest but im not the worst so it ok.

[Bajan Elite]

well i'm not the worst either i've beaten guys by button mashing during Kakashi's lightning blade move, I could hear them mashing their button like crazy it'll be that loud through their headset and i would still get the icon over to the right and get a perfect, but wether i win or lose at the button mashing sequence its annoying and a pain on these awesome fingers(lol) so i don't like it.

[aCzarX]

Calm down , Calm down