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Acrid Placidity
12-04-2007, 02:50 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered but I was just wondering if you actually have to assassinate them all with full DNA to get the achievement. The last few I've killed I couldn't seem to do stealthily so I just murdered all the guards and beat the target down while making sure I have full DNA. It shows a clip of you using the hidden blade whether you do it manually or kill them with your sword so I'm a bit confused.

Zef
12-04-2007, 02:54 PM
It has indeed been answered, check out the achievement guide thread if you have any more achievement woes or questions.

To get the achievement you need to assassinate your target after completing all side missions and finding all view points. So after you talk to a bureau leader you should find all of the view points, save all citizens and complete all investigations. You can see your progress in the start menu, there will be a little bar thing to the left of the screen. You need to fill this up until there are only two sections missing before going after your target.

Do that for every target and the achievement unlocks when you kill De Sable.

Acrid Placidity
12-04-2007, 04:02 PM
Aright man, thanks.

It says "Make sure you have full health before killing your Target." But you say I need to assassinate them. Is it just straight kill or specifically an assassination? And if it IS specifically an assassination, can I reload memory blocks for the ones I messed up on, or am I going to have to start a new game?

Alien Nation
12-04-2007, 05:12 PM
you need full DNA synchronization, but some ppl will tell you that you need full missions status bar, which is impossible since you only get full mission status bar when you have KILLed your target and not before. But I would suggest trying to kill all targets will full health. My buddy did it without doing all missions or objectives and got the achievement.

Acrid Placidity
12-04-2007, 05:24 PM
Aright cool... Here's hoping then. I just couldn't assassinate them. So I got fed up and killed everyone that wasn't my target, then ran in circles until I had full health and murdered the targets with X mash with the sword rather than my hidden blade.

mephist4thewin
12-04-2007, 07:36 PM
I got the achievement on my playthrough. I did every view point and save the villager and got all the intel. I only stealthed killed one guy and never had full health on any of them.

Alien Nation
12-04-2007, 07:44 PM
this achievement has also been confirmed to be glitched....

Zef
12-04-2007, 09:36 PM
Actually the 'DNA bar' does fill up when you kill a target as far as I remember, it just doesn't register the kill until after the little chat you have with them and you are safely back in the Bureau (hence why the achievements only unlock after you get back).

I've killed a couple of targets with low health so I do not support the full health theory, 'tis blasphemy of the utmost bollockosity.

Acrid Placidity
12-05-2007, 04:11 AM
Wow. That was some funky English. Aright well I'll give it a go here... I have to go rent Mass Effect tonight, so when I get back I'll finish the game as I've now got my last templar. And if I don't unlock the achievement I'll more than likely bitch and moan some more on here after reading some other people's problems!

Infininja
12-05-2007, 05:03 AM
Disciple of the Creed 30 http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/../images/site/gp-g.jpg
Assassinate all your targets with a full DNA bar.


I thought it was fairly straightforward. Assassinate targets with a full DNA bar. Your synchronization bar is your health, not your DNA bar.

KingGotenW
12-05-2007, 06:11 AM
you do NOT need to use the hidden blade to kill them. you can engagae them in combat and wont make a difference. as long as the dna bar (not health bar) is full.

Reaping Clarity
12-05-2007, 07:30 AM
this achievement has also been confirmed to be glitched....

Haha yes this is true, it glitched for me. The first time I played through I didn't have a full DNA bar before I killed any of my main targets and I still acquired the achievement. I can't seem to remember the exact moment I did though.

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Could it have something to do with when you fight all 9 of your main targets at the same time near the end? (they can easily be killed with throwing knives).

Murbay
12-06-2007, 01:43 AM
Seems a lot of people are confusing DNA bar with health bar. Don't worry I did too till I unlocked the achievement after taking a bit of damage in my last fight.

Zef has the more accurate description for this achievement though it is known to be glitched. You need to have completed all the information gathering before the assassination. I think the blue bars are optional because I originally missed a view point on the first mission but collected it later and got the achievement after fighting Robert. So as long as you have at least collected all the information before the assassination you should be fine.

As for killing, it doesn't matter if you assassinate them of hack them down because towards the end that is your only option. Just as long as you get the jb done.

HoodMod
12-06-2007, 06:50 PM
I understand this and did it for the second memory block. But on the third one, to get 10 memory strands, you need to assassinate two targets, and I'm really confused about this. I have 6 memory strands, and the other four are for going to the bureau at each city and killing the two different targets. I did all the save citizens and high points in both cities to get the six strands. Either way, I won't have a full DNA strand when I kill one of those targets? Does anyone know anything about this?

Murbay
12-06-2007, 07:12 PM
I understand this and did it for the second memory block. But on the third one, to get 10 memory strands, you need to assassinate two targets, and I'm really confused about this. I have 6 memory strands, and the other four are for going to the bureau at each city and killing the two different targets. I did all the save citizens and high points in both cities to get the six strands. Either way, I won't have a full DNA strand when I kill one of those targets? Does anyone know anything about this?

All sets of DNA Strands are the same. You have 6 fact finding missions, 1 strand for visting the bureau, 1 strand for the assassination, 1 strand for saving citizens and 1 for all the view points. As I mentioned before, the citizens and view points are optional so you don't really have to worry about them. You will always get the bureau one before the assassination and when you complete your task that will give you the last white DNA strand.

To unlock the assassination you only need to obtain 2 facts (3 in later levels) so 4 (or 3 later) are optional and you can complete the level without them though it is obtaining these that the achievement concerns itself with.

In other words to get the achievement, for each of the sections within the memory block you need to do the following:

6 x investigation - these are just your pickpocket, information, eavesdropping and interrogation tasks.

1 x knowledge - this is visting the bureau where you will discuss everything you have learned from the investigation.

1 x assassination - killing the target.

The fact that a memory block may have 2 missions in there isn't a concern because each mission is treated separately. One thing I have noticed and I think it's what ties the achievement.

If you go to the bureau having done the minimum investigation required for the assassination you will explain just what you have found out. However, if you go to the bureau having found out all the facts, there is more dialogue as you have found out more things. As with the Conversationalist achievement which tracks what you have said to Lucy, I think the achievement also tracks the dialogue in the game hence why the view points and citizens are optional because you don't discuss them at the bureau.

HoodMod
12-06-2007, 07:15 PM
All sets of DNA Strands are the same. You have 6 fact finding missions, 1 strand for visting the bureau, 1 strand for the assassination, 1 strand for saving citizens and 1 for all the view points. As I mentioned before, the citizens and view points are optional so you don't really have to worry about them. You will always get the bureau one before the assassination and when you complete your task that will give you the last white DNA strand.

To unlock the assassination you only need to obtain 2 facts (3 in later levels) so 4 (or 3 later) are optional and you can complete the level without them though it is obtaining these that the achievement concerns itself with.

In other words to get the achievement, for each of the sections within the memory block you need to do the following:

6 x investigation - these are just your pickpocket, information, eavesdropping and interrogation tasks.

1 x knowledge - this is visting the bureau where you will discuss everything you have learned from the investigation.

1 x assassination - killing the target.

The fact that a memory block may have 2 missions in there isn't a concern because each mission is treated separately. One thing I have noticed and I think it's what ties the achievement.

If you go to the bureau having done the minimum investigation required for the assassination you will explain just what you have found out. However, if you go to the bureau having found out all the facts, there is more dialogue as you have found out more things. As with the Conversationalist achievement which tracks what you have said to Lucy, I think the achievement also tracks the dialogue in the game hence why the view points and citizens are optional because you don't discuss them at the bureau.

NM, I just looked closer and now understand. Thank you for the help.

hopesfall2win
12-06-2007, 07:17 PM
Ok. You can get it by doing all side missions within each city, which is doing the Eavesdropping/Pickpocketing/Informer missions + save citizens and View Points.

Or, if you assassinate your target with full health (Which is not being hit by a sword or arrow when you are on the hunt!) then you get credit as well. Not recommended for targets later in the game.

I did both, and got the achievement. First two targets I didn't realize i needed to do all pickpocket and eavesdrop, but luckily I stealth assassinated them and didn't lose any health. Simple as that.