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DieHard[NL]
11-15-2007, 05:49 PM
I was wondering if you need to save all the civilians and get to all the view points before you assassinate your target. I know you need to get all the 6 pieces of information by completing the investigations. But I wanna know if you want to get a full DNA bar, do you need to save all the civilians and get to all the view points as well before you assassinate a target?
Evidence
11-15-2007, 05:55 PM
Yes you have to complete side missions.
Dizzy Domes
11-15-2007, 06:00 PM
So for the achievement "Assassinate all your targets with a full DNA bar" you just have to do all the side quests before the assassination? Does that include flags? or is the DNA bar just having all the pieces to the memory log for that level before kill the target?
DieHard[NL]
11-15-2007, 06:23 PM
I didn't do all the side quest on the first assassination, so I shouldn't get the Disciple of the Creed achievement when I continue with all the other assassinations. I might as well start all over again. Thanks for the reply.
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 08:53 PM
So for the achievement "Assassinate all your targets with a full DNA bar" you just have to do all the side quests before the assassination? Does that include flags? or is the DNA bar just having all the pieces to the memory log for that level before kill the target?
Just look at the Memory Log.
If all the white links are filled except the Assassination one, and the two blue ones are filled, then you're good to kill.
Xerofox
11-15-2007, 08:54 PM
I think it's a misinterpretation, the achievement says "full DNA bar" not "maxed out DNA bar". If you assassinate your targets without being hit you should get this achievement.
Too bad I killed the first target by accident, didn't have a full DNA bar.
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
I think it's a misinterpretation, the achievement says "full DNA bar" not "maxed out DNA bar". If you assassinate your targets without being hit you should get this achievement.
Too bad I killed the first target by accident, didn't have a full DNA bar.
Wrong. Your DNA bar is not your health bar. Your "health" is your Synchronization bar.
The Memory Log is what the achievement refers to, the log tracks your DNA Memory.
BustaMo
11-15-2007, 09:01 PM
So basically, this achievement can only be completed after completion of the game and then working on a second completion of the game?
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 09:04 PM
So basically, this achievement can only be completed after completion of the game and then working on a second completion of the game?
No it is achievable on your first playthrough to my knowledge, as long as you fill all the Memory links/side quests before killing each target.
Dravz
11-15-2007, 09:04 PM
Or going very slowly your first time?
Wonder if it's possible to replay and get credit.
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Or going very slowly your first time?
Wonder if it's possible to replay and get credit.
Well, I mean, you don't really have to go "slow." Just do all the side quests.
And I'm not sure about that, I'd start a new game to be sure.
B1indSide
11-15-2007, 09:09 PM
So basically, this achievement can only be completed after completion of the game and then working on a second completion of the game?
what? no, i got it on my first play through, i just did everything i could before assinating the target. Just do all the missions, intel, rescue citizens, every high view point, eavesdropping, pickpocketing and that fills up your DNA bar, then just finish the main mission. Easy.
You might be able to go back and redo just that level that you didn't complete everything first, and it might count.
The only thing you can't go back for is to talk to Lucy, which I found out the hard way. Besides the flags and the templars that's the only one i'm missing, and if I want to start the game over, it will overwrite the save, so I'd have to start collecting flags again too, so I guess I'll never get that one. Oh well.
Dravz
11-15-2007, 09:12 PM
Well, I mean, you don't really have to go "slow." Just do all the side quests.
Yeah, but I didn't do that on the first assassination, only because I didn't know that it would trigger the assassination when I went to the Bureau.
From the assassin boss' instructions, it sounded like you needed to hit the Bureau first before doing anything, but I did a couple missions on the way to it on my map. By the time I got there, I had triggered the assassination, and couldn't do the other side quests.
So by going "slow" I mean do exactly what it says and take your time. I got overexcited and did missions before I was supposed to, which screwed this achievement for me.
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 09:16 PM
Yeah, but I didn't do that on the first assassination, only because I didn't know that it would trigger the assassination when I went to the Bureau.
From the assassin boss' instructions, it sounded like you needed to hit the Bureau first before doing anything, but I did a couple missions on the way to it on my map. By the time I got there, I had triggered the assassination, and couldn't do the other side quests.
So by going "slow" I mean do exactly what it says and take your time. I got overexcited and did missions before I was supposed to, which screwed this achievement for me.
Yeah, I suppose you're right then. Haha.
eggnog
11-15-2007, 10:19 PM
Someone needs to understand this.
You can go back to any mission at any time through the Animus. When you are selecting Options/Recent Memory/Exit Animus LOOK UP instead of left/right and you will be able to select other memories. Pick the block you want to replay and do what you gotta do.
Fire Mage
11-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Someone needs to understand this.
You can go back to any mission at any time through the Animus. When you are selecting Options/Recent Memory/Exit Animus LOOK UP instead of left/right and you will be able to select other memories. Pick the block you want to replay and do what you gotta do.
Everyone understands this.
The fact remains that it has not been confirmed to work for the achievement yet.
eggnog
11-15-2007, 11:01 PM
Everyone understands this.
The fact remains that it has not been confirmed to work for the achievement yet.
Ok, I'm sorry. Still playing through the game and I still can't figure out the damned difference between a combo- and counter-kill.
BcrdNCola
11-15-2007, 11:06 PM
Ok, I'm sorry. Still playing through the game and I still can't figure out the damned difference between a combo- and counter-kill.
Combo is essentially a double tap of the X button. You strike the second time when they deflect your first strike. It's pretty hard to time correctly. Counter is when you are guarding (holding down RT) and strike as they are striking.
Slane
11-16-2007, 12:04 AM
I guess you cant' do this till the later part of the game as my DNA bar still has two blacks lines and there's nothing left for me to do. I'm assassinating Talal (archer guy). So i guess when you come back to the major cities to do more assinations and more of the city is unlocked the more you can do, maybe.
eggnog
11-16-2007, 12:54 AM
Combo is essentially a double tap of the X button. You strike the second time when they deflect your first strike. It's pretty hard to time correctly. Counter is when you are guarding (holding down RT) and strike as they are striking.
Thanks Cola, workin' on it now :)
Fire Mage
11-16-2007, 01:14 AM
I guess you cant' do this till the later part of the game as my DNA bar still has two blacks lines and there's nothing left for me to do. I'm assassinating Talal (archer guy). So i guess when you come back to the major cities to do more assinations and more of the city is unlocked the more you can do, maybe.
Nope, the work for this achievement starts right when you have to assassinate the first guy on your own, the Merchant in Damascus.
KingGotenW
11-16-2007, 01:25 AM
Nope, the work for this achievement starts right when you have to assassinate the first guy on your own, the Merchant in Damascus.
ive done EVERYTHING ive saved all the people, all high points, and still have 4 black bars
ive done everything leading up to the target. which im able to kill now. but i wanna know how to get a full bar 1st
Fire Mage
11-16-2007, 01:44 AM
ive done EVERYTHING ive saved all the people, all high points, and still have 4 black bars
ive done everything leading up to the target. which im able to kill now. but i wanna know how to get a full bar 1st
Have you viewed all the High Points in the city or anything like that?
Also, there are side quests for the assassination you must do like eavesdropping and stealing information. Just keep searching around.
Also, there is one bar that will stay black until you kill the target, and that's the one labeled Assassination.
KingGotenW
11-16-2007, 01:48 AM
Have you viewed all the High Points in the city or anything like that?
Also, there are side quests for the assassination you must do like eavesdropping and stealing information. Just keep searching around.
Also, there is one bar that will stay black until you kill the target, and that's the one labeled Assassination.
you quoted me then asked the same questions i just told you...
i've done EVERYTHING kill the target, eavesdrop,steal, high points, and save citizens
Tom19
11-16-2007, 01:56 AM
Oh good, i have been saving everyone and getting all the side missions before i have been killing the target, good to hear i have been doing it right. Thanks for the info.
Fire Mage
11-16-2007, 02:10 AM
you quoted me then asked the same questions i just told you...
i've done EVERYTHING kill the target, eavesdrop,steal, high points, and save citizens
I mean that's all I can suggest.
The black bars are stuff like Eavesdropping and beating information out of people, etc.
KingGotenW
11-16-2007, 05:18 AM
on the 2nd assassination im about to assinate him and i still have 4 black bars.... it says i need to investigate 4 more times? wtf
pezjono
11-16-2007, 06:01 AM
I just beat the game and got this achievement in the process. I did not complete all high points/side quests or the 6/6 for finding the targets.
I have no clue how I got this achievement. I still don't have the "Fearless" achievement for getting all the high points (to prove you don't need to complete everything prior to assassinating the target).
I guess I am just lucky? :woop:
KingGotenW
11-16-2007, 06:17 AM
I just beat the game and got this achievement in the process. I did not complete all high points/side quests or the 6/6 for finding the targets.
I have no clue how I got this achievement. I still don't have the "Fearless" achievement for getting all the high points (to prove you don't need to complete everything prior to assassinating the target).
I guess I am just lucky? :woop:
3 possible reasons...
#1 it glitched and u got lucky
#2 you DID do all the stuff w/o realaizing it
#3 we misinterpeted what it means to get a full bar
Er0ck21
11-16-2007, 08:03 AM
What they mean by a Full DNA bar is DO NOT GET INJURED BEFORE KILLING YOUR TARGET. They do not mean beating the game and replaying.
ImmortalArbiter
11-16-2007, 09:04 AM
Ok, I'm on the part where you can choose to go to either Acre or Jerusalem. When I go to the menu and look at DNA, it shows it for both towns. I don't need to complete all of the side quests for both towns before assassinating either target, do I? Or can I just leave one, do all the sidequests, then assassinate for one town, then do the same for the next?
pezjono
11-16-2007, 02:17 PM
3 possible reasons...
#1 it glitched and u got lucky
#2 you DID do all the stuff w/o realaizing it
#3 we misinterpeted what it means to get a full bar
#1 A possibility.
#2 I am 100% sure I didn't do everything prior to assassinating. I would only accomplish the minimum requirements before assassination (i.e. complete 2/6 for the first half of targets in the game, then 3/6 for the last half of targets). I have plenty of citizens I have to save. They are all over the maps. I have not completed every high point. I would have these achievements if I did otherwise.
#3 A possibility.
And every time except 2 or 3, I was low on health before finally assassinating the target.
WyldthingUK
11-16-2007, 02:31 PM
What they mean by a Full DNA bar is DO NOT GET INJURED BEFORE KILLING YOUR TARGET. They do not mean beating the game and replaying.
This is how I interpreted the achievement when I read it but having not completed the game I don't know for certain. If anyone can remember doing all sidequests/view points/citizen saves etc. but then got damaged before killing the target and then did NOT get this achievement we would know for 100%.
Dravz
11-16-2007, 04:31 PM
#1 A possibility.
#2 I am 100% sure I didn't do everything prior to assassinating. I would only accomplish the minimum requirements before assassination (i.e. complete 2/6 for the first half of targets in the game, then 3/6 for the last half of targets). I have plenty of citizens I have to save. They are all over the maps. I have not completed every high point. I would have these achievements if I did otherwise.
#3 A possibility.
And every time except 2 or 3, I was low on health before finally assassinating the target.
Ok some additional discussion on this topic from what I've found at other AC forums. Note that I CANNOT CONFIRM if what they're saying is true, but it is a new theory --
For this achievement you just need a full sync bar by the end of the last assassination... I did the bear minimum investigation for each target and got the achievement right when I killed Robert... to fill sync bar just save people and climb all high points...
Umm, guys i can confirm squeets. I did NOT do all of the eavesdropping and things like that and still got the achievement. All this achievement means is you need to have Absolute Symbiosis by the time you kill Robert... NOT that hard.
Before you assassinate the last target, the DNA bar has to be full. Press start to pause it and look at it. Is it full? No? Well fill it and then kill th last guy. It's incredibly easy to get it full before you even do the last assassination, without doing every investigation, it just has to be full once the last person is killed.
It sounds like you don't have to kill EVERY target with a full bar, you just need to have a full sync bar when you kill the FINAL target (Robert?). You'll know this is the case because you'll get the Absolute Symbiosis achievement when you have a full sync bar.
So now to test the theory -- pezjono do you have the Absolute Symbiosis achievement? Can you confirm/deny any of this?
Dravz
11-16-2007, 04:34 PM
Judging from his Xbox live account he does not have the Absolute Symbiosis achievement. Well, shit.
Only thing I can think of is I'm getting sync bar and DNA bar mixed up, and so are the other guys -- meaning pezjono may have gotten the achievement by killing the final boss with a full DNA bar (not sync bar).
If true this sounds like a glitch.
Mike Mosca
11-16-2007, 05:13 PM
Anyone try killing every target with full HEALTH, like 0 damage after you kill each target, regardless if you did all the investigation or have a full sync?
sinister scythe
11-16-2007, 11:51 PM
i might be being stupid but i think it works like this, once you complete the 6 investigations a DNA Bar flows over the top of your health/sync bar. I think when this happens you are clear to assassinate the target, the other blue ones are side missions which dont count because you get seperate achievements for doing those. might be able to confirm later:)
Deyankees1
11-17-2007, 12:02 AM
thank god that both targets I did so far I had both things Full and intend in keepin it that way
Mike Mosca
11-17-2007, 12:14 AM
Well i just got the achievement and I am still not quite sure how lol.
I got it just as I assassinated the last target. I had one bar of life left. I did not do all the investigation in the game. I was fully synched when i killed the last target.
sinister scythe
11-17-2007, 12:18 AM
ok forget that just realised thats the dna on the sync bar is always there, but still reckon its just the white ones
Mike Mosca
11-17-2007, 12:20 AM
Im thinking this achievement will simply be awarded after killing the last target.
Tonic24k
11-18-2007, 07:47 PM
somebody posted something earlier that made sense. the life bar is the synchronization bar, the DNA bar is what gauges task completion. at first i was thinking the same thing, once you get a full sync bar then kill a group of dudes without being hit. well, i have a full sync bar (20 bars) and have killed without being hit. i haven't assasinated anyone yet since i got a full sync bar, but i still think it has something to do with satisfying the memory block completely. plus it's worth 30...if it was simply killing without being hit...it would be worth closer to 10. it does say however, "kill all targets...". so i'm sure killing all 9 assasination targets is one of the elements. it was also posted that someone got it upon completion of the game. so what about this theory? (Contradicts what i actually just said, though). basically beating the game with a full sync bar. it would make sense because some people may try to beat the game without completing the side missions and if you neglect them, your sync bar isn't gonna go up. so maybe the ach. is tailoring to the people that do complete these free missions. so, Theory: doing bare minimum and beating the game - no ach.; managing a full sync bar before eliminating your last target - ach.
pezjono
11-18-2007, 11:23 PM
Man, I honestly don't know about this achievement. I am 100% sure I was not at full health when killing Robert though...
I don't think there are any investigations when you get up to his kill.
I'm officially confused :confused:
Deyankees1
11-18-2007, 11:44 PM
Well gonna have to finishe the game to fully understand.
SebastianSB
11-19-2007, 12:54 AM
I got the Disciple of the Creed achievement last night when I killed the final boss. I has completed all side quests before every single assassination, so I had 100% of my DNA (memory block) meter full before each assassination (with the exception of the strand for the actual assassination). On several of the assassinations I accidentally exposed myself and got completely owned. I still got the kill, but I had very low health several times. I think it is safe to assume that the achievement does not require you to carry out your assassinations without being hit. It requires you to basically complete the game 100% (not counting "additional memories").
Just Lucky
11-19-2007, 01:11 AM
Yeah, I've just finished the game. You have to have the DNA Strand full before each assassination. You can have a low Syncronization Bar (health bar) when killing each Templar (it would be expected to lose health on some of them with the amount of guards that surround them).
Basically, you have to do each side mission, including Saving Civillians, High Points and doing each Investigation (Mission). On some of the assassinations, you are only required to do 2/6 or 3/6 missions before returning to the Assassin's Bureau, but in order to get the achievement, all 6 of these missions must be completed.
And if you are worried about the Additional Memories block, don't be. These are the DNA Strands for the Flags, Templars killed and High Points reached. They will only turn blue once each set of Flags are found, all Templars are dead and every High Point reached.
If you realise you have missed something, you can go back and do them again.
Just try and complete everything in one go. It will save you a lot of time, and will get more achievements.
Hope this clears things up.
Just Lucky
pezjono
11-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Yeah, I've just finished the game. You have to have the DNA Strand full before each assassination. You can have a low Syncronization Bar (health bar) when killing each Templar (it would be expected to lose health on some of them with the amount of guards that surround them).
Basically, you have to do each side mission, including Saving Civillians, High Points and doing each Investigation (Mission). On some of the assassinations, you are only required to do 2/6 or 3/6 missions before returning to the Assassin's Bureau, but in order to get the achievement, all 6 of these missions must be completed.
And if you are worried about the Additional Memories block, don't be. These are the DNA Strands for the Flags, Templars killed and High Points reached. They will only turn blue once each set of Flags are found, all Templars are dead and every High Point reached.
If you realise you have missed something, you can go back and do them again.
Just try and complete everything in one go. It will save you a lot of time, and will get more achievements.
Hope this clears things up.
Just Lucky
That's the thing though, I didn't complete all of the High Points, save citizens, or investigations, but I still got the achievement.
I'm not arguing that it is necessary to complete all of these things to guarantee the achievement, but that I was able to get the achievement without doing everything.
Dravz
11-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Maybe it's simply killing the last guy with a full sync bar -- and by full I mean unlocked, not that you necessarily have full health.
SebastianSB
11-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Maybe it's simply killing the last guy with a full sync bar -- and by full I mean unlocked, not that you necessarily have full health.
Yup, it could be bugged like that.
Firecracker22
11-19-2007, 08:49 PM
People have said that there are glitches with the achievements. People getting achievements without having done the requirements. Like the Leap of Faith achievement or the 100 guards defeated without dying.
I've had to earn all of mine, though, so I cannot vouch for that rumor.
J O 12 D
11-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Its a story related achievement so you are all wrong..
All the descriptions change when you unlock them and this one states that 'You've fully honored the tenets of the Creed. You are a Master Assassin.' This means you have completed all you targets set by the only person that could increase your rank. Al mualim
zI HURRIC4N3 Iz
11-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Thanks for these answers, I was wondering about this.
orp08
11-20-2007, 01:57 AM
I didnt killed every guy with full health and did not do every sidequest, i did 4 investigations for most cases and got the achievement, i think everyone is just making a theory...
Maybe you only have to fill out the black blocks, white. The high points and the civilians are blue DNA blocks. That would work with everyone's status right?
templargunman
11-20-2007, 02:35 AM
ok, I got sick of people being wrong so if someone answered this I don't really care. The DNA bar means that you found every peice of info, like you beat up everyone you needed to, pick pocketed everyone you need to, and listened in on every important conversation. Another thing, I haven't tried this, but you might be able to go back to old memory blocks and try again (I think so), you can definitely play them again, but I don't know if the guy is alive or not.
Just Lucky
11-20-2007, 03:11 AM
... I'm not arguing that it is necessary to complete all of these things to guarantee the achievement, but that I was able to get the achievement without doing everything...
Yeah, you're not the first person I've heard of doing this. Maybe it's a glitch, or maybe you're not required to do everything - and if that's the case, then why would anyone (on this forum) do anymore than the bare minimum?
My advice is, finish every investigation and every side mission to ensure you get the achievements. It'll save you having to do a second play-through (especially if it got too tedious for some of you's).
... but I don't know if the guy is alive or not.
When restarting memory blocks, you start the whole block again. So every investigation has to be done to complete it 100%. Side missions like High Points and Saving Civillians do not need to be repeated if already done. This means you will have another opportunity to do another assassination on each of the 9 Templars.
Just Lucky.
templargunman
11-20-2007, 03:15 AM
yay! I get to be right! I was just guessing too.
McCare
11-20-2007, 03:48 AM
Its a story related achievement so you are all wrong..
All the descriptions change when you unlock them and this one states that 'You've fully honored the tenets of the Creed. You are a Master Assassin.' This means you have completed all you targets set by the only person that could increase your rank. Al mualim
What he said. There is really no need to over analyse this anymore.
p4in redefined
11-20-2007, 03:55 AM
What they mean by a Full DNA bar is DO NOT GET INJURED BEFORE KILLING YOUR TARGET. They do not mean beating the game and replaying.
Thank god someone said it ive been sitting here reading through these posts for 5 minutes just thinking its not how many sidequests youve done or anything like that. A full DNA bar is the strand of DNA behind your health in the top left corner you only have it when your at perfect health or in this case have infilitrated to your target properly. alot of these guys are meant to be killed in special ways. for example the doctor you are ment to assassinate when hes tending to his patients therefore if you catch him right you wont get hit before you kill him, therefore having perfect health and still having the full DNA bar. Its really the games way of making sure you play properly rather than breaking into a fortress through the front door managing to get a lucky hit in and kill him, coz thats not what the games about.
rx32degrepber
11-20-2007, 04:10 AM
ya do the side missions
templargunman
11-20-2007, 04:15 AM
Thank god someone said it ive been sitting here reading through these posts for 5 minutes just thinking its not how many sidequests youve done or anything like that. A full DNA bar is the strand of DNA behind your health in the top left corner you only have it when your at perfect health or in this case have infilitrated to your target properly. alot of these guys are meant to be killed in special ways. for example the doctor you are ment to assassinate when hes tending to his patients therefore if you catch him right you wont get hit before you kill him, therefore having perfect health and still having the full DNA bar. Its really the games way of making sure you play properly rather than breaking into a fortress through the front door managing to get a lucky hit in and kill him, coz thats not what the games about.
*EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH* wrong, it's actually you have to find all the info on the person, someone close it! Quick! Before more mis-information is given out!!!
Also, I'll prove it, when you save a citizen or go to a high point you get that little row of bars, some are white, some are black, the bars, if formed into the right shape, form a common human DNA strand, so when the bars are filled out by, in this case, getting all the information, you have filled your DNA.:locked:locked:locked:locked:locked:locked LOCK IT!
p4in redefined
11-20-2007, 12:10 PM
ok i just thought it might be the most likely explaination since some people have the achievement without havign done the side missions and viewpoints before each assassination.
Noisy Neighbour
11-20-2007, 12:24 PM
No one knows what it means.
People who are saying you must do all the side quests etc. The achievement says assassinate them with a full DNA bar. That bar only becomes full when you assassinate them. So if your theory was right the achievement would actually say "assassinate them to GET a full DNA bar"
People who are saying its your health bar, its called the synchronization bar, the only evidence you have is that theres a spinning strand of dna.
So its speculation, no solid proof or evidence.
Everyone please stop arguing about it.
calzord
11-20-2007, 12:36 PM
its got to be your synchronization bar, just build your synchronization barbefore killing each boss, and dont take damage without taking damage( or waiting untill your health regens) im currently working on it that way and not doing all the side quests my friend is doing all sides but not dna bar we will see who gets it.
surly the ful DNA bar just means, your focus so u can use eagle vision its making you kill each boss without taking damage( or waiting untill your health regens) im currently working on it that way and not doing all the side quests my friend is doing all sides but not dna bar we will see who gets it.
I have a feeling you will be the one who is disappointed. Some of the assassinations are insane to do without taking damage, plus... as stated before, that is the synchronisation bar ;)
calzord
11-20-2007, 12:52 PM
i think thats why its worth 30 points becuse to kill each target with a full synchronisation bar is gonna hard.
halomastercap
11-20-2007, 01:13 PM
ALRIGHT.
Here are the facts of my playthrough:
I completed every sidequest there was before attempting any assasination, except one. Assasination #3 was incomplete in my memory log in the Animus.
Also, except for the first assasination, I fought nearly every other assasination target normally. NO WAY did I finish them with a full SYNC bar. (Yeah, that thing in the upper left hand corner. It's not a DNA bar. The DNA image you see in the back just tells you that you're fully integrated into your ancestor's memory.)
Also, if you've been to the ninth "assasination", you see how nearly impossible it is to assasinate that target with a full sync bar.
Now, MID-GAME, in between assasination's 7 and 8, I WENT BACK and RE-DID assasinations 2-3. I had to redo BOTH of them because they are part of the SAME memory block. I did not have to redo the view points, or save any citizens I had already, but I was able to redo ALL of the investigations prior to assasination.
Thus, when I completed the last assasination I GOT the Achievement.
For those who don't want to read, here is a list:
1. I got the Achievement.
2. I did NOT have a full SYNC bar whilst completing all my assasinations. In fact a few times I was close to "dead" (de-sync). One target I was literally on the screen where you can no longer see your HUD and everything was distorted.
3. I did NOT complete all sidequests prior to an assasination, but before I finished my last assasination I WENT BACK and REDID the entire memory block. When later view in the Animus prior to loading the last memory to do my assasination it showed that I had indeed completed all the DNA segments for all previous memory blocks.
Logic concludes: sync bar =/= DNA bar because I have the Achievement and I was pretty un-synched for most assasinations.
calzord
11-20-2007, 01:28 PM
thanks for the clear up it helps alot i need to do alot
donjordi
11-20-2007, 03:16 PM
If you completed the game can you go back to your old memory blocks with a full dna bar ?
McCare
11-20-2007, 03:32 PM
I im in the school of fish who got the acheivement by just finishing the game.
I did NOT complete all side missions or investigations prior to completion.
just play through and you will get it.
Ult1ma Weap0n
11-20-2007, 03:46 PM
Same with me, I didn't do all side quests for the first guy, including towers or civilian missions. I did do all the tower and civilian side missions for the 2-7th guys. On the 8th guy i did all but one side mission (kill 4 guys in 3 minutes or something) Up till that point i killed everyone while i had full health. On the 9th one (the girl) i only did 3 side missions, and i did the towers and the civilian missions and when it finally went into a cut scene with her i had low health. When i killed Robert i didn't have full health and i got the achievement.
So here is my assumption, there are one of two ways to get it.
1.) Kill targets 1-8 with full health (has been proven wrong by some people)
2.) Kill target after completing investigation even if you did the minimum AND do the high points and save citizen missions in the area.
templargunman
11-20-2007, 04:30 PM
This is a question to everyone who got it without doing all the sides.
When you didn't do the sides, do you mean save the citizen, high points? or do you mean get all the info on the person.
I think that if you get all the necessary info before the assassination it will be completed.
Also, I think we can agree that the SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR!Everyone quote this post, so that there aren't people who read 2 posts and then make their dumb opinion.
SebastianSB
11-20-2007, 05:04 PM
SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR!
I felt that this was a given from the beginning. The game calls that meter the "synchronization bar," so why would an achievement call it anything other than that if it were talking about the sync bar?
templargunman
11-20-2007, 06:26 PM
SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR!
exactly! To me it seems pretty obvious.
halomastercap
11-20-2007, 06:50 PM
I felt that this was a given from the beginning. The game calls that meter the "synchronization bar," so why would an achievement call it anything other than that if it were talking about the sync bar?Because it's got a DNA image in the background of the bar, and, sadly, this is a society of NOT reading and just looking at pretty pictures instead.
Edit: Also:
SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR!
viciousmental56
11-20-2007, 06:51 PM
you get this achievement at the end of the game, you have to complete all side missions, all high points and save all the people before you kill you target and after you kill the last guy you will get it
you can take damage before you kill your target, i did and i got the achievement
Dravz
11-20-2007, 07:01 PM
you get this achievement at the end of the game, you have to complete all side missions, all high points and save all the people before you kill you target and after you kill the last guy you will get it
you can take damage before you kill your target, i did and i got the achievement
Did you not read the thread at all? People who have only done the bare minimum number of missions required have also gotten this achievement.
viciousmental56
11-20-2007, 07:06 PM
not all but some, well i got it at the end, idk about others, maybe a glitch
but there are some people here mistaking the DNA bar for the synchronisation bar, saying you need to kill your targets without loseing sync (or health)
i was saying they are wrong and saying when i got the achievement
Werkzeug
11-20-2007, 07:33 PM
I completed all of the tasks before killing all 9 guys and didn't get the achievement. :(
templargunman
11-20-2007, 08:28 PM
I completed all of the tasks before killing all 9 guys and didn't get the achievement. :(
Thats really weird...
SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR! <-- Don't forget this!
scarjack
11-21-2007, 09:05 AM
never mind, just read the post above...
templargunman
11-21-2007, 04:19 PM
never mind, just read the post above... AHA! My method worked!
SYNC BAR IS NOT THE DNA BAR!
Alien Nation
11-21-2007, 04:31 PM
its a glitched achievement, ive seen ppl get the disciple of the creed at memory block 4 wich is impossible either way.
according to the offical strategy guide it says:
30\ Disciple of the Creed
Assassinate all your targets with full DNA Synchronization.
You've fully honored the tenets of the Creed.
You are a master Assassin.
Check your bar before you begin.
Full DNA synch means full health, not max DNA bars... that would be Absolute Symbiosis achievement
but i guess everyone can argue about it.
just keep in mind it's glitched either way.
PerpetualHeaven
11-21-2007, 04:32 PM
It has nothing to do with your health bar (sync bar). Really, I think it's all the side missions, extra objectives, etc not including flags. It has to be considering I did every single one. I did all eavesdrop, save the citizen, interrogations, informers, and pickpockets. That's the only thing that's called "DNA".
templargunman
11-21-2007, 05:27 PM
its a glitched achievement, ive seen ppl get the disciple of the creed at memory block 4 wich is impossible either way.
according to the offical strategy guide it says:
30 Disciple of the Creed
Assassinate all your targets with full DNA Synchronization.
You've fully honored the tenets of the Creed.
You are a master Assassin.
Check your bar before you begin.
Full DNA synch means full health, not max DNA bars... that would be Absolute Symbiosis achievement
but i guess everyone can argue about it.
just keep in mind it's glitched either way.
Absolute Symbosis is getting Max health (not full, max)
Assassinating everyone with full health just seems dumb, I guess it could be true though.
battle cry714
11-21-2007, 05:48 PM
does your health look like dna?
no...
also in the first "mission" where you get the traitor in maysaf, they tell you that "you now have one bar filled in in your DNA BAR.
Edit: i think the guide combined dna and synch into one thing. Synch is your health, dna is the missions.
edit 2: this ach must be glitched.
templargunman
11-21-2007, 05:53 PM
does your health look like dna?
no...
also in the first "mission" where you get the traitor in maysaf, they tell you that "you now have one bar filled in in your DNA BAR.
Edit: i think the guide combined dna and synch into one thing. Synch is your health, dna is the missions.
What they're talking about is when you have full health you get that little glowing thing over your health, and that supposedly looks like a DNA strand... I never really payed attention to what it looked like, but whether it was there or not.
The guide also seems to have a lot of problems. The only real way to find this out is to ask Ubisoft.
PerpetualHeaven
11-21-2007, 05:56 PM
That's not true because I had the achievement and I've not had full health before. So that can't be it.
templargunman
11-21-2007, 05:59 PM
That's not true because I had the achievement and I've not had full health before. So that can't be it. So it's not true that asking Ubisoft is the only way because you have the achievement? hmmmmm... Sir, starting a sentence with that or they can only confuse your readers, may I suggest 10th Grade English?
Sydanc1an
11-21-2007, 07:08 PM
Looks like this is still a problem to some.
The DNA bar is the bar which missions completed fill it up. Just do every side mission before you kill a target AS WELL AS doing all the View Points and Save the Citizens. To make it clearer, your DNA bar for a specific target should be completed by the time you get the achievement for killing him.
Just Lucky
11-22-2007, 01:52 AM
Ok, this thread is annoying me. You don't need a full Sync Bar, as I killed all the Templars will damage. And you only get a complete Sync Bar so far through your assassinations, so stop going on about that.
... The achievement says assassinate them with a full DNA bar. That bar only becomes full when you assassinate them. So if your theory was right the achievement would actually say "assassinate them to GET a full DNA bar"...
Thing about that though, is that once you killed the last Templar, the bar becomes full and then the achievement unlocks. So the at the point of assassination, it is technically full. It only shows you that after the cutscene. Once again, it is technically full.
For people unsure, still...
Do all the side missions anyway, there's 3 achievements to get for doing that anyways. Also, there is an achievement for getting all the high points so do them aswell.
The investigations aren't hard to do, and each one will take 5 minutes max to do. Play the game properly. You'll understand the story better, and learning about the Templars before killing them gives you a better idea of how to attack.
Just Lucky.
Deyankees1
11-22-2007, 02:04 AM
Ok, this thread is annoying me. You don't need a full Sync Bar, as I killed all the Templars will damage. And you only get a complete Sync Bar so far through your assassinations, so stop going on about that.
Thing about that though, is that once you killed the last Templar, the bar becomes full and then the achievement unlocks. So the at the point of assassination, it is technically full. It only shows you that after the cutscene. Once again, it is technically full.
For people unsure, still...
Do all the side missions anyway, there's 3 achievements to get for doing that anyways. Also, there is an achievement for getting all the high points so do them aswell.
The investigations aren't hard to do, and each one will take 5 minutes max to do. Play the game properly. You'll understand the story better, and learning about the Templars before killing them gives you a better idea of how to attack.
Just Lucky.
Yup just do them all to get the full experience. Thats wat I ve been doing.
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