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[KrisYeager]

in asia, total of 800 MS points with 4 stages.

Title: Beautiful Katamari
Content: Milky Way Constellations
Price: 200 Microsoft Points
Availability: Asia only
Dash Text: [ESRB: E (Everyone) Alcohol Reference, Comic Mischief, Mild Fantasy Violence] Roll up all 88 constellations to make the Milky Way. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts (http://www.xbox.com/live/accounts).

Content: The Weaver Girl
Price: 200 Microsoft Points
Availability: Asia only
Dash Text: [ESRB: E (Everyone) Alcohol Reference, Comic Mischief, Mild Fantasy Violence] Collect lots of string and yarn to make the Weaver Girl, Vega. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts (http://www.xbox.com/live/accounts).

Content: Shopping Spree
Price: 200 Microsoft Points
Availability: Asia only
Dash Text: [ESRB: E (Everyone) Alcohol Reference, Comic Mischief, Mild Fantasy Violence] Be a thrifty shopper and go on a shopping spree to make a Space Station. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts (http://www.xbox.com/live/accounts).

Content: High-calorie Katamari
Price: 200 Microsoft Points
Availability: Japan only
Dash Text: [ESRB: E (Everyone)Alcohol Reference, Comic Mischief, Mild Fantasy Violence] Collect lots of food to make Cetus the Whale. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts (http://www.xbox.com/live/accounts).

[The Pants Party]

You could probably use the fake account trick to download that, but I have read it will be in the US on the 25th, so I'm just going to wait.

I also heard there will be six stages in all. Not bad, 1200 MS Points for the additional achievements. Less than Oblivion, but a little more than Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

[Clipse 2]

From what I've read the content is already on the disk, you're just paying for the key to unlock it. Kind crappy deal if you ask me.

Source: http://news.filefront.com/new-beautiful-katamari-dlc-is-a-ripoff/

[dlslhc]

if this will happen to ace combat 6 later, shitty company

[gatorbait]

DLC was such a great idea when it was first announced when Xbox Live came out but now I feel the gamers are just getting ripped off by DLC most of the time. It is nice to see when they change some of the content for free for a little bit but when the content is in the game and they are going to make us pay more just to unlock what is in the game is just flat out weak on the part of the company and just trying to make a quick buck off of those who already support the game.

[The Pants Party]

I don't see what the big deal is. Every other game that has had DLC has been $60 retail with another $10-30 for the DLC. This was $40 retail, so paying another $10 for the content still makes it cheaper than all the other games retail price, not to mention their price after DLC.

The only reason they did this, was because of Microsoft's Achievement Points rule. They wanted to give players the 1250, so they figured out what they wanted the extra 250 to be, built it in and then got the DLC ready while they were making the game. Now we don't have to wait six months and wonder what the DLC achievements are going to be. We'll have them within weeks of the game's release.

[SegaSaturnSNK]

I don't see what the big deal is. Every other game that has had DLC has been $60 retail with another $10-30 for the DLC. This was $40 retail, so paying another $10 for the content still makes it cheaper than all the other games retail price, not to mention their price after DLC.

The only reason they did this, was because of Microsoft's Achievement Points rule. They wanted to give players the 1250, so they figured out what they wanted the extra 250 to be, built it in and then got the DLC ready while they were making the game. Now we don't have to wait six months and wonder what the DLC achievements are going to be. We'll have them within weeks of the game's release.

People are just being cheap and expecting to get things for free. I bought Marvel Alliance when it first came out and once the DLC came out, I bought it right away so that was over 70 bucks for me. I didn't mind because it was worth it and this DLC for Katamari is worth it whenever it comes out. People need to stop bitching and realize its all about business and if you were in Namco's shoes, you would be doing the same thing as well.

If you love Katamari, get the DLC or if you're being a bitch about it then save your money then! If you don't like the game or just wasn't into it then save your money and get something else instead of spending 10 bucks on a DLC. Simple as pie.

[Clipse 2]

I wouldn't complain if its content you don't already have in your possession, BUT when its already on the disc you purchased, one that you own, one that you spent hard earned money on (even if it is only $40) then you should get 100% of the content that is on that disc.

[ThaPrototype]

i agree. if its already on the disc it should be free. I dont mind giving them my points if its something extra they were working on. But if its on the disc, that means they are holding out on us.

[The Pants Party]

Well, if you think about it... if they did that, the game would have retailed for $50 because of the extra content. Then, when they wanted to add the 250 points for DLC, they would have to charge us another $10 for that.

This way, we save $10 and get all the points quicker.

[gatorbait]

Has nothing to do with being a bitch. Simple idea really, if it's in the game then why do we have to pay additional for it? I still think the concept of DLC has gotten way out of hand, perfect example being sports games and having to buy additional stadiums and uniforms that have always been included in the games. It's not hard to grasp the idea of making a quick buck but when it's your quick buck after buck they're receiving then it's not such a sweet deal. And have no clue where people being cheap is an issue. We're forking over the 50-60 bucks and even more sometimes for these games and for a little bit more of content we're getting charged 10 bucks more. I understand though when it's 10 bucks more for a map pack that the developers have been working on for weeks and months.

[The Pants Party]

The point is, you would have had to pay for it either way. Either they raise the retail price to $50, or they charge you $10 later for the DLC.

If they raised the retail to $50, they would STILL have to charge you $10 for DLC at a later point to add in the extra 250 achievements, meaning you would end up spending $60 on the game instead of $50. They could of course off the content for free, but no self-respecting company is going to do that.

People keep saying Namco is ripping off the customers, but they actually saved us all $10 by handling it this way!

[firecracker118]

First off its just an assumption by most that the content is already on the disk. After reading several atticles on the subject its my understanding that the DLC was not done before the release of the game. The game is meant to stand alone without the DLC, and the DLC is just a bonus.

[ZoopSoul]

I don't see what the big deal is. Every other game that has had DLC has been $60 retail with another $10-30 for the DLC. This was $40 retail, so paying another $10 for the content still makes it cheaper than all the other games retail price, not to mention their price after DLC.

The only reason they did this, was because of Microsoft's Achievement Points rule. They wanted to give players the 1250, so they figured out what they wanted the extra 250 to be, built it in and then got the DLC ready while they were making the game. Now we don't have to wait six months and wonder what the DLC achievements are going to be. We'll have them within weeks of the game's release.

The difference being that this Katamari has a severe lack of variety compared to We Love Katamari (where are the different stages? it's all just portion of one big stage in this one... I want an underwater or snow world, or even the killer flower world), and it's only two hours long. This should've been a $20 game with the content adding up to $40, not a $40 game with the content adding up to $60. That said, I'm a Katamari junkie, and I'll buy it anyway. :P

[newbsicle]

I have no problem paying for downloadable content if it's not on the disc... Buying a game and then charging someone a fee for content already on the disc you bought is just plain lazy and sad.

Most likely this was microsofts decision to make a quick buck off gamers. I couldn't see a team put a game out for $40 and then say "you can only play everything on the disc if you pay us another $10".

Besides I thought games were "next gen" and that's why we are already paying another $10 for games.

[Eyeradicate]

And not to mention that 1200 points is more than 10 dollars. It's more or less 15-20 bucks. So Really Your getting this Game and All the achievements for around 60 bucks. Just like any other game. I don't really want to pay for the extra content but I'm going to anyways no matter what. I can see how people are somewhat angry but seriously, its' the same way with how the Guitar Hero 2 content was (besides no extra achievements)
People insisted on bitchin how much the DLC was and then got it anyways. I just don't see why so many people care so much if your going to buy it anyways....but that's just me......

[The Pants Party]

And not to mention that 1200 points is more than 10 dollars. It's more or less 15-20 bucks.

While that is a true statement...

So Really Your getting this Game and All the achievements for around 60 bucks. Just like any other game.

That is not.

There are four stages you need for the DLC achievements at 200 a pop. 800=$10. 1250G=$50 total.

Not to mention, every other DLC game has been $60 retail + $10-30 for the 250 extra points. BK is at least $20 cheaper than any other 1250 points you'll get.

[Eyeradicate]

While that is a true statement...



That is not.

There are four stages you need for the DLC achievements at 200 a pop. 800=$10. 1250G=$50 total.

Not to mention, every other DLC game has been $60 retail + $10-30 for the 250 extra points. BK is at least $20 cheaper than any other 1250 points you'll get. Yes, Sorry Pants, I was basing that off of their being 6 stages for 1200 Points. My Mistake.

[Chuppernicus]

So let me get this straight, If I made a game and was able to finish DLC earlier than expected, in other words before my game goes gold, then I should NOT include it on the disk right? That way gamers would be happy that they are getting new content. I'm not sure I understand that logic. A developer could choose to release the DLC later even though they had it finished and pretend that they were "working on it".
I like to get more out of the games I like. DLC is there for me if I so choose, for many games now. Microsoft was even wise enough to let developers add points to entice points hounds into getting the extra content for the points. Which is the wave of the future, by having to buy content online I can't go to gamestop and buy it used or rent it at Blockbuster or gamefly, I have to pay full price.
Anyway I could really care less about where the DLC comes from, on the disk, via download or some other method. I look at DLC in terms of is it worth the money? I think ( no I know ) there is a growing sense of entitlement in kids today, they want everything easy and free.Good times.

[sanger]

Pants Party's views are both correct and wrong. We are paying $50 total to get the game + 4 new maps which is still $10 less than most games which retail for $60. However, people in Asia who have already played the 4 stages are saying, the all presents/all cousins achievements are still locked after completing them all. Add to that the news which was uploaded on Major Nelson's blog yesterday with 3 stages worth 700 points total means we really need to buy 7 stages @ 1500 points in order to have a chance of getting the full 1250. (Maybe there is even more stages required for all cousin/presents, this is not confirmed yet.)

This brings us to about $58 bucks for the full 1250, which is still less than normal retail games that give us 1000 points. I hope that from now on Namco just gives us a $50 game or $60 game and then offer the DLC for free as a "service" This way some gamers who are complaining and not doing the money calculations will just think Namco is so nice for giving free contents and more achivements to play with.

I do agree that this Katamari is a bit short compared to its PS2 brethrens and the PSP version as well. It basically forces achivements junkies to continue playing by the 100 requests and 200 requests but it does get boring to play the same stages over and over. Even if it was just the same stages over and over again, more variety like in the PSP version would have been nice and allow us to want to go for that 200 requests. Would also have been nice if it was 200 requests including time attack, normal and eternal. Or since there is a 10 planet for stage limit, the achievement for creating 10 planets per stage would have been cool too.

Anyway, back to pricing... I think it really should have been $40 or $50 with the full 1250 points, but not going to complain as it is still below retail price of other games and gives me 250 extra points. :)

[sanger]

Alright. It is confirmed the 7 downloadable stages makes the full 1250 points possible. So, the final price is $40 + 1500 points = $58.75.

[The Pants Party]

Well, that's a bit of a bummer. I thought the first four they announced was all we needed. However, like you said, we're still getting 1250 cheaper than most 1000's out there, so it's a decent deal for achievement players. For Katamari players, it is a bit expensive to do the same level in different ways...

[jan36zero]

The other 3 DLC stages are,

1. Perfectly sized Katamari - Make a katamari of just the right size as requested by the Kind.

2. Dangerous Katamari - Collect lots of dangerous objects to make Scorpius.

3. Perfectly Sized Katamari - Make a katamari of just the right size as requested by the King. (yes the same as 1, just play in different area, picking up mechanical stuff.)

You need all 7 DLCs in order to get the all cousins, all presents achievement. I just got the all presents achievement and started working on all cousins.

I live in Hong Kong the first 4 downloads were available the day I bought the game, but the other three almost a week later.

[newbsicle]

It's not always as simple as, 'don't like it? don't buy it!' Obviously there are people who will pay anything for nothing.... GAMERPICS* THEMES* The fact that people pay sends a message that these companies can rip us off when their stock plummets.

With how quickly the nickle and dime is growing in gaming I would expect to see games out with nothing more than a title. Sure all the content is on the disc, but you can't have it until you pay another price on top. Or until you strip it and go to jail. The funny thing is I read about this years before the xbox 360 came out. There was a publisher who had an idea to sell a racing game with all the tracks and no cars. You had to buy the cars on top of the retail price through download.

So while you could say, 'homg, nobody is making you buy it.' Realize not everybody lives in a world of money and fame... Some of us work hard for the little we have. I'm not blaming the developers, publishers, or even people who buy the content. Nope. I'm blaming the entire system.

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