Official WWE/TNA Discussion Thread

[Nick G 42390]

Chris Benoit not at fault for the murders?????

What caused Chris Benoit to do the unspeakable, killing his young son, his wife and himself on a tragic Atlanta weekend less than eight months ago?
Was it depression? Steroid rage? A cocktail combination of pills, drugs and untreated concussions?
Or all of the above?
Tonight, on the CBC investigative series The Fifth Estate, the life and death of the Canadian wrestling icon -- along with the convoluted and troubled life of so many of his ring colleagues -- is examined by former CFLer turned reporter Bob McKeown.
The answers aren't certain. The theories remain just that. But the story of how it happened -- Sun Media obtained a copy of the script -- why it happened, and quite possibly what caused this tragedy of life, sport and entertainment to occur in the backdrop of so many other catastrophes at least offers explanations.




"Benoit's brain looked like the brain of an individual suffering from a specific type of dementia normally seen in people in their 80s or 90s," Dr. Bennett Omalu tells The Fifth Estate. "We don't think it (the murders) was steroid rage. We think it's a different syndrome."
The investigation of Benoit's brain began with a strange call. Mike Benoit, Chris' father, picked up the phone and the voice on the other end asked: "Could he have Chris Benoit's brain?"
Mike Benoit was stunned. "And I kept looking at the phone thinking, 'is this is the National Enquirer? Like, who is this?' "
The brain made its way to Dr. Julian Bailes, the former neurosurgeon for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and to his colleague, Omalu.
The doctors believe an abnormal protein, usually found in the brains of elderly people with dementia -- but rarely in middle-aged men -- led to the murder/suicide. They also believe Benoit was not responsible for his actions.
WWE boss Vince McMahon rejects the doctors' argument, saying Benoit could not have functioned as well as he did if he was suffering from dementia.
What is clear is that Benoit was the beneficiary, then the victim of his lifestyle and desire for success.
The fact pro wrestlers die young isn't new. What's startling is the fact their death rate is 7-10 times higher than the general population of similar age.
"If you read their life story, you'll see a very common thread," Bailes says of athletes who die young. "A failure in their personal life, failure in their business life, depression, suicide attempts and then suicide completion."
Chris Benoit's father needs something to hope for.
"I can't bring my son back, can't bring my daughter-in-law back, can't bring my grandson back. But I can make changes going forward," he says. "The wrestling industry will change and they'll change dramatically because of what happened to Chris Benoit."
He believes that. Maybe he needs to believe that. History suggests otherwise.

Source: http://ottsun.canoe.ca/Sports/OtherSports/2008/02/06/4829543-sun.html

[Shinsetsu]

Chris Benoit not at fault for the murders?????



Source: http://ottsun.canoe.ca/Sports/OtherSports/2008/02/06/4829543-sun.html

You know what makes me sick about the Benoit thing? The way the WWE handles it. Makes me sick that they skip a year of the Rumble when they mention rumble winners, they skip mentioning all his matches etc. HE HAD GOOD MATCHES. HE WAS A PERSON. I understand, "Oh he was a murderer etc." but seriously, you are not glorifying his actions, you are showing part of wrestling history. But whatever, I like that missing year in WWE history.

[sam49]

You know what makes me sick about the Benoit thing? The way the WWE handles it. Makes me sick that they skip a year of the Rumble when they mention rumble winners, they skip mentioning all his matches etc. HE HAD GOOD MATCHES. HE WAS A PERSON. I understand, "Oh he was a murderer etc." but seriously, you are not glorifying his actions, you are showing part of wrestling history. But whatever, I like that missing year in WWE history.
Yeah I hate this as well. Benoit was a great wrestler.

[Nick G 42390]

Spoilers for Smackdown on Feburary 15th.
Credit: WrestlingNewsWorld.com

WWE taped next week's edition of Friday Night SmackDown from the Toyota Center from Houston, Texas. Below are match by match results:

WWE opened SmackDown with the opening pyros as we go straight to in-ring action.

Batista defeated MVP via pinfall.
The match begins with MVP in control but Batista ends up winning the bout with the Batista Bomb.

Jimmy Wang Yang, Shannon Moore, Jesse, & Festus defeated Zack Ryder, Curt Hawkins, & Deuce, & Domino.
Wang Yang won it for his team after nailing a moonsault off of the top rope onto Deuce for the pinfall. After the match, all eight competitors start to fight and Festus cleans house.

A video package airs from last week’s edition of SmackDown where Chuck Palumbo works over Jamie Noble. Michelle McCool is shown crying trying to get him to stop.

Victoria defeated Michelle McCool via pinfall.
Chuck Palumbo came out on his motorcycle. He distracted Michelle long enough for Victoria to hit Widow’s Peak and pick up the victory. After the match Palumbo gets on the mic and tells her that she better get used to him beating Jamie Noble up.

The Undertaker defeated Big Daddy V via pinfall.
Undertaker hit his signature DDT to pick up the win on the big monster from ECW. After the match, Undertaker hits the Tombstone Piledriver on Matt Striker. He sells it well as the EMTs comes out to take him out of the arena.

WWE World Heavyweight Champion Edge is shown looking nervous backstage. They cut to a shot of Vickie Guerrero. She tells the makeup artist to make her look beautiful for her special night.

CM Punk & Kane defeat ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero & Kane via pinfall.
Punk picks up the victory for his team by hitting Go to Sleep on Chavo.

Finlay defeated The Great Khali via pinfall.
Hornswoggle comes out and distracts Khali, Finlay nails him with the Shillelagh to get the win.

Vickie Guerrero makes her way out to ringside and says that she is excited. There are flowers and balloons in the ring with red carpet with a white heart in the middle of it.

A symphony type band comes out and plays a slow song in which WWE World Heavyweight Champion Edges comes out too. He says that he has to ask his soul mate a question. According to our correspondent, he sings We Are In Heaven by Brian Michaels. He proposes to Vickie, she says yes. They kiss and proceed to make out.

Rey Mysterio comes out and says that this is the most disgusting thing that he has ever seen and tells Vickie that she is putting the Guerrero name to shame.

Edge attacks Rey but Mysterio ends up hitting the 619. Mysterio goes for another high flying maneuver but Edge ducks and he connects on Vickie.

Dark Match Main Event:

Rey Mysterio defeated Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins via disqualification.
As Rey is getting beat up, Batista comes out for the save. Mysterio nails the 619 on one of the Edge Heads and a Frog Splash. Batista & Rey celebrate in the ring together.

TNA offer Coach Bob Knight a contract.
TNA Wrestling sent out a text message today to its "TNA Mobile" subscribers that said: "TNA is in talks with coach Bobby Knight....more details to come."

Now, TNA's official website is reporting that the company is trying to sign controversial college basketball coach Boby Knight:

TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION WRESTLING OFFERS COACHING JOB TO BOB KNIGHT

Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling is offering its first-ever Head Coaching job to Bob Knight, the all-time winningest Division I men’s basketball coach known as much for his coaching genius as his fiery temper, who resigned Monday in the middle of the season as the Texas Tech coach.

“TNA Wrestling was shocked, like the rest of the sports world, to hear Coach Knight resigned,” said Jeff Jarrett, co-founder of TNA Wrestling, who was a high school and junior college basketball player in Tennessee before becoming a professional wrestler. “Coach Knight is a sports icon and we’d be thrilled and honored to have him join the ranks, to further build TNA Wrestling into a national power, much like he did for Texas Tech.”

Knight, 67, has been a head coach for 42 years at three Division I schools: Army, Indiana and Texas Tech. Knight won three national championships, including his 1976 Indiana team that went undefeated, a feat no team has done since. In 1984, he coached the U.S. Olympic team to a gold medal in Los Angeles.

TNA Wrestling has a lighter schedule than college basketball which should appeal to Coach Knight, Jarrett said, and TNA not only endorses chair-throwing, but has an endless supply of steel chairs.

[sam49]

Looks like another Samckdown let-down.

[GottiMafia]

EDGE IS THE MAN!! I was at Royal Rumble and the Cena sucks chants were in full effect before the show started but once Cena came out I didnt hear anything at all lol.

[sam49]

Lol. I hate Cena and like Edge.

[Nick G 42390]

World Wrestling Entertainment has severed all ties with Ohio Valley Wrestling. Effective immediately, OVW will no longer be a WWE developmental territory. Here are the details:

-- A meeting was held today with all contracted developmental talent. WWE's John Laurinaitis and Ty Baily made the announcement that all of the contracted wrestlers training at OVW there would be heading to Florida Championship Wrestling - which is now WWE's only developmental territory.

-- WWE wants all of their developmental talent in one place. From a logistical standpoint, it didn't make business sense to have their developmental talent in Kentucky, specially since so many WWE employees live in Florida.

- Talent was told that there will be no releases stemming from OVW shutting down and that they will all be relocated to Tampa after finishing a few more weeks in OVW.

- Talent was told the trainers in FCW would be Tom Prichard, Steve Keirn, former WWE star Billy Kidman

- FCW is slated to run its first official TV taping later this month and there have been plans in place to run a regular schedule of live events in Florida.

The move had been suspected for some time as the amount of contracted talents working in Louisville had dwindled greatly in the last year and morale in OVW overall had fallen. Over the years, OVW has groomed a number of WWE's biggest stars, including Brock Lesnar, Batista, John Cena and Randy Orton, among others.

WWE has confirmed the news we reporter earlier today, that Ohio Valley Wrestling will no longer serve as their developmental territory. Here's the official press release:

WWE® To Cease Affiliation With Ohio Valley Wrestling

STAMFORD, Conn., February 7, 2008 – World Wrestling Entertainment® announced today that Ohio Valley Wrestling (OVW) will no longer be affiliated with World Wrestling Entertainment as an official developmental territory, making Florida Championship Wrestling™ (FCW™) WWE’s official development training facility for talent around the globe.

“Ohio Valley Wrestling has been a tremendous partner with World Wrestling Entertainment through the years, and we thank them for their work in developing many of today’s WWE Superstars,” said John Laurinaitis, Senior Vice President of Talent Relations. “We look forward to Florida Championship Wrestling playing host to the next generation of WWE Superstars recruited from around the world.”

Last November, WWE announced the formation of Florida Championship Wrestling, a new training center for future WWE Superstars. The facility has four wrestling rings and approximately 35 contracted athletes, with plans to increase that number to more than 70 in the near future. The facility is now fully operational, as WWE undertook large-scale renovations to FCW in order to accommodate its training needs. The finished training facility is more than 10,000 square feet, including an arena that will seat nearly 300 fans. The new training facility will also host a weekly show in front of a live audience, to be broadcast for regional television.

FCW is owned and operated by Steve Keirn, a former professional wrestler and producer for WWE. WWE trainer Tom Prichard oversees all talent training at the facility.


Ron "The Truth" Killings News:
Source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter

- Ever since David Lagana was fired as ECW head writer, Ed Koskey has been handling all the writing with Dusty Rhodes as the idea man. ECW will continue to become part of the SmackDown soap opera, thus Michael Hayes will be the person deciding the main direction for both shows.

- Michael Buffer (who showed up at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view) had a terrible reputation in WCW and apparently his rep followed him with his WWE debut. Jim Ross said on his official website that he didn’t talk to him but Jerry Lawler tried to and Lawler had the same reaction everyone in WCW had toward him.

- Ron Killings was told to keep his independent bookings through the end of March, so he will be working a lot of dates with AAA pro wrestling.

Carlito's brother in the WWE? Also, news on Jeff Hardy's health:

- As reported earlier, "Wildcat" Chris Harris officially signed his WWE contract on January 29th. As of right now, no word on his start date.

- Carlito's youngest brother Eddie Colowill be debuting in Florida Championship Wrestling this week. He's been down there training for the past few weeks since leaving Puerto Rico.

- In a recent interview Jeff Hardy told Mike Mooneyham that his body is all beat up, a lot from doing motocross. Hardy said that his ankles are really weak, he has a bone chip in his right kneecap, both elbows are in pain, two herniated discs, one in his neck and one in his back.

[sam49]

Wow! Some big news there.

[Nick G 42390]

Friday Night SmackDown will cease to air on The CW at the end of the 2007-08 television season, which concludes in late August. WWE issued the following press release earlier tonight, which can also been seen on Yahoo's Business page at this link:

WWE(R) SmackDown(R) Leaves CW
Thursday February 7, 11:47 pm ET

STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The following statement was issued today by World Wrestling Entertainment®:

After a successful decade of “SmackDown” on both UPN and The CW, World Wrestling Entertainment and The CW have agreed to conclude our partnership. Since The CW’s exclusive negotiation period ran out as of last Thursday, January 31, we have been contacted and have been in negotiations with other networks. “WWE SmackDown” will continue to air on The CW until the conclusion of the 2007-08 broadcast season. We are grateful to Les Moonves, Dawn Ostroff, and their entire organization for bringing “WWE SmackDown” to millions of viewers for so many years.

Following last night’s announcement by WWE that Friday Night SmackDown will not return to the CW Network after the 2007-2008 season, the obvious question is what is next for WWE’s second highest rated show? According to Variety the most logical choice for WWE would be to get a slot on the USA Network as they already have a relationship with NBC Universal with RAW airing on USA and ECW on the Sci-Fi Channel.

However, Variety also hinted that News Corp.’s MyNetwork TV could be in the running for the series. Obviously Friday Night SmackDown would be the highest rated show on MyNetwork TV but it would have to be considered a huge set backwards for WWE.

If WWE is able to get SmackDown under their current deal with NBC Universal, the USA Network, Bravo, and the Sci-Fi Channel would be the top networks in the running. NBC and MSNBC would be the other options but would be long-shots for obvious reasons. If SmackDown doesn’t fall under WWE’s current deal with NBC Universal or NBC Universal lets WWE shop the show with other networks, there could be several other possibilities.

Source:http://www.sescoops.com/

[sam49]

Dunno why WWE would do such a thing. SD was doing some good ratings on CW network.

[CoachCO62]

Ahhh..I guess I should have looked around the off topic forums sooner but anyway I saw people debating who was better, edge or Cena, truth is they both are lame, If you go back and watch those ladder matches for the mos tpart edge is the only one not doing anything super amazing, hell even Bubba and devon took bigger hits then him. No one in the WWE can compare to what Jeff Hardy gives to the fans.....Noone. He cant talk like the Rock, he doesnt have the raw talent of the Hart family, He doesnt have the personality of Stone Cold, He doesnt have the Size of the Hulk Hogan, but he can do what noone else can he can amaze the crowd and any given moment. He cant do what Foley did but he can do amazing things with actual talent. (By the way Im a huge Foley fan I am just a realist all he did was fall from cages, and throw thumb tacks on the floor, maybe wrestler in brutal barbaric matches, but never with any actual wrestling talent).

[sam49]

Why dont you like Edge? He is a better wrestler than John Cena. I mean in terms of technical in wrestling.

[Ritchie Goodall]

i watch the wwe all the time. it sucks that tna isnt on that much on sky (or if it is please advise me of which channel)

[sam49]

Its on Bravo.

[Jonesy2008]

I Think The CW Network was bad for smackdown.
Since moving to CW it has become lame. I Watched It All The Time, then noticed when it changed. People do finishing moves differently, like Batista changing to the Spinebuster and other people not doing finishers properly. Time for a change in my opinion.

[tadpeters]

I always thought SmackDown! was on the worst channel on the worst day of the week.

They need to make it LIVE and more spectacular. Right now, nobody gives a crap about SmackDown! anyways...

[sam49]

Yeah I agree.

[tadpeters]

To be honest I don't think anybody's really given a crap about Smackdown! since The Rock, Austin, HHH and D-X were on there.

Well... maybe thee Guerrero, Mysterio, Angle, Team Angle, Jamie Knoble, Nidia, Lesnar, Big Show days. Those were pretty good.

[CoachCO62]

I would love to go doqwn the roster and break down each person based on who sucks and who is great and all this but the truth is when I see people dislike Cena (i personally have always hated him but now that everyone else has jumped on the hate bandwagon I like him alot more) but he is not that different from the Rock as far as IN-Ring is concerned, when it comes down to Mic talent noone compares to the Rock. Anyway that is just current wrestlers, Noone can compare ever to Mid 80's early 90's WWF Hogan. He would wrestle 5 times a year and people loved him. Once he went to WCW until he became hollywood Hogan he sucked big time, and even then he was only great for about 2 months. Many people here dont know about the legends I know from the 80's and early 90's.

At least thankfully Ive seen a few people hate on that waste of space Kennedy, Im not the biggest Shawn Micheals fan, but you can have him do a hell of a lot better then wasting time with Kennedy. As far as WWE people with mass appeal the Undertaker will always be what he says the top Dog in the yard.

Another overrated bum is Jericho, I mean damn he is and always has been boring. The WWF should have put the belt on Hardy they pushed him all the way and then they had him just get destoryed by 1 move and the rumble in a boring ending to a decent match. Cena coming out @ the rumble was good very surprising. And again the best match was put on by one of the companies top performers ever and wrestlers top performers ever, Ric Flair. His matches are still great no matter how old he is. I hope the next game gives him updated stats from his great years not from his old broken down years.

Anyway I know Im all over the place here but I will leave it with this comment, 2 guys who never got the credit they deserved were Bill Demott (Who had some horrible gimmicks like General Rection and Hugh Morrus) and Bam bam Bigelow. For the size of these guys what they would do in the ring was amazing. Watch some of the matches and you will see guys who could really do some great stuff for big men.

[SpongeBob x360a]

does anyone agree with me that king booker is dumb enough to go on TNA

[sam49]

To be honest I don't think anybody's really given a crap about Smackdown! since The Rock, Austin, HHH and D-X were on there.

Well... maybe thee Guerrero, Mysterio, Angle, Team Angle, Jamie Knoble, Nidia, Lesnar, Big Show days. Those were pretty good.
Yeah I second this.

[Jonesy2008]

To be honest I don't think anybody's really given a crap about Smackdown! since The Rock, Austin, HHH and D-X were on there.

Well... maybe thee Guerrero, Mysterio, Angle, Team Angle, Jamie Knoble, Nidia, Lesnar, Big Show days. Those were pretty good.

I Third This.

[DFILL450]

To be honest I don't think anybody's really given a crap about Smackdown! since The Rock, Austin, HHH and D-X were on there.

Well... maybe thee Guerrero, Mysterio, Angle, Team Angle, Jamie Knoble, Nidia, Lesnar, Big Show days. Those were pretty good.
I...what comes after 3? Fourth this...no that doesn't sound right. FORGET IT :p

I really havn't given a crap about wrestling since those people were wrestling. WWE has really gone to shit lately.

[sam49]

^ Yep, it sure has. Especially Smackdown. Oh Gawsh thats what you call utter waste of 2 hours.

[sam49]

Well heres my No Way Out 2008 preditions:

WWE Championship Match
- Randy Orton (c) vs. John Cena.
My Prediction: Randy Orton

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- Edge (c) vs. Rey Mysterio.
My Prediction: Edge

Raw Elimination Chamber Match
(Winner gets WWE Title shot at WrestleMania 24)
- Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. JBL vs. Chris Jericho vs. Umaga vs. Jeff Hardy.
My Prediction: Triple H

Smackdown/ECW Elimination Chamber Match
(Winner gets World Title shot at WrestleMania 24)
- The Undertaker vs. Batista vs. The Great Khali vs. Big Daddy V vs. MVP vs. Finlay.
My Prediction: Batista

ECW Championship Match
- Chavo Guerrero (c) vs. CM Punk.
My Prediction: Chavo

- Ric Flair vs. Mr. Kennedy.
My Prediction: Ric Flair

[Bax x360a]

Why did you double post? Anyway, two elimination chambers is one night is going to be awesome. I barely ever watch wrestling anymore, but I might have to watch No Way Out! Should be entertaining.

[Jonesy2008]

Yep, shame i have school in the morning.

[Bax x360a]

Yep, shame i have school in the morning.
Record it? 45 minutes till it starts, and I'm falling asleep already, nooooooooo!! Hopefully I can stay awake :) Enjoy it people.

[Jonesy2008]

Its on double record....

[SABER Linkdude]

No Way Out so far is pretty good.

[wild dog]

Well heres my No Way Out 2008 preditions:

WWE Championship Match
- Randy Orton (c) vs. John Cena.
My Prediction: Randy Orton

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- Edge (c) vs. Rey Mysterio.
My Prediction: Edge

Raw Elimination Chamber Match
(Winner gets WWE Title shot at WrestleMania 24)
- Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. JBL vs. Chris Jericho vs. Umaga vs. Jeff Hardy.
My Prediction: Triple H

Smackdown/ECW Elimination Chamber Match
(Winner gets World Title shot at WrestleMania 24)
- The Undertaker vs. Batista vs. The Great Khali vs. Big Daddy V vs. MVP vs. Finlay.
My Prediction: Batista

ECW Championship Match
- Chavo Guerrero (c) vs. CM Punk.
My Prediction: Chavo

- Ric Flair vs. Mr. Kennedy.
My Prediction: Ric Flair


lol you were right in every 1, exept the Smackdown chamber match - Undertaker won that.

It was pretty obvious who was going to win them though seemings how wrestlemania is around the corner. I mean Cena won the royal rumble so hes going to be fighting for something - perhaps a triple threat for the WWE title ? Ric Flair is obviously going to be beaten at wrestlemania and have a jolly send off, Cm Punk will get the title back and the Undertaker will get the Heavyweight by chockslamming Vickie Guerrero.

Anyone think the same ?

[sterob70]

no way out was ok

big show returning was great

i expected a bit more from the ec matches tho

[sam49]

Yep my predictions pretty much nailed it apart from the Smackdown elimination match which was a dissappointment.

[Bax x360a]

Yep my predictions pretty much nailed it apart from the Smackdown elimination match which was a dissappointment.
I thought that was an awesome match personally. What happened with Flair's match I fell asleep :p Flair win or has he retired?

[wild dog]

I thought that was an awesome match personally. What happened with Flair's match I fell asleep :p Flair win or has he retired?

Flair won, he got kicked in so much he should have died but as per usual he does the figure four and wins.

[sam49]

I thought that was an awesome match personally. What happened with Flair's match I fell asleep :p Flair win or has he retired?
Awesome match? Personally in my books it was a 6.5/10. Now the Raw Elimination chamber, that was complete awesomness. 9/10.

[wild dog]

Awesome match? Personally in my books it was a 6.5/10. Now the Raw Elimination chamber, that was complete awesomness. 9/10.

Yeah that match was great, I loved the bit where Umaga got thrown into one of the chambers and then when he got up everyone did their finisher on him lol. Poor Shawn getting pedigreed by his old partner, he was gushing blood through the whole match so know wonder he couldnt fight back :(

[MapleMire]

does anyone know when the next elimination chamber is going to be, i would love to see jericho, john cena, triple h, shawn michaels, big show, and umaga. thats a elimination chamber match

[wild dog]

does anyone know when the next elimination chamber is going to be, i would love to see jericho, john cena, triple h, shawn michaels, big show, and umaga. thats a elimination chamber match

Well there was kinda just 2 on sunday so I dont think even Vince Mcmahon knows yet. They need to develop a big storyline for chamber matches, they tend to be at No Way Out, Armageddon or Wrestlemania

[sam49]

Well the triple threat was confirmed on RAW and I cant wait for the Floyd Mayweather match!

[Nick G 42390]

Well, No Way Out was one of the best pay per views I've seen in a long time. The RAW elimination chamber match was m favorite of the night. Jeff Hardy put on a hell of a show at the end of it and Umaga was pretty good through out the match. The Smackdown chamber was also good. That was a very good ending to the match if you ask me, never saw it happening that way. Big Show is a fucking beast for taking all those shots without hitting the floor. Mayweather hit him pretty damn hard. That part was insane because I wasn't sure what was going on. It almost seemed like that wasn't suppose to happen, especially when Shane ran out to calm down Show. I wasn't sure if it was suppose to happen or not until after RAW last night.

I wanna see who else is gonna be in the Money In The Bank match this year. If a couple of no names are in it, then I think it will be Hardy winning it. They keep involving him in big matches and he's been on a roll lately and gave Triple H hell in the chamber. But, Kennedy never got his title shot last year because of the wellness thing. So, I'm not sure if they will have Kennedy win again this year and then get his title shot. The WWE was big on making him a champ in the begging but I don't know if that has changed since then or is still the same...

[wild dog]

Well the triple threat was confirmed on RAW and I cant wait for the Floyd Mayweather match!

Really ! between John Cena, Triple H and Randy Orton lmao. I thought that before it was even announced, WWE sucks now you can guess what the matches are going to be.

[sam49]

MR K is winning money in the bank.

[Shinsetsu]

My friends went to the RAW show yesterday and told me that some of the pop/jeers are indeed filtered out for West coast feed.

[Jonesy2008]

Its plainly obvious whats going to happen with flair. Beaten, Retire, Hall Of Fame, Lots of money...

[wild dog]

MR K is winning money in the bank.

lol again ? he won last years then edge took it from him. I would like to see Mr Kennedy win a title hes one of my favorite wrestlers but his big mouth gets him nowhere.

[MapleMire]

Well there was kinda just 2 on sunday so I dont think even Vince Mcmahon knows yet. They need to develop a big storyline for chamber matches, they tend to be at No Way Out, Armageddon or Wrestlemaniai hope its not wrestlemania cause i want to see some intense glass breaking like when goldberg speared jericho threw the glass

[wild dog]

i hope its not wrestlemania cause i want to see some intense glass breaking like when goldberg speared jericho threw the glass

Nah I dont think they would do another just after 2 at the month before ppv, people would be like another ? give us somehting else. Probabaly wont be another for a year or so.

[Nick G 42390]

lol again ? he won last years then edge took it from him. I would like to see Mr Kennedy win a title hes one of my favorite wrestlers but his big mouth gets him nowhere.

Learn to read dude. I already explained everything that happened with the Kennedy thing from last year.

Also, about that west coast filtering thing, is that why it sounds not so loud lately? Makes it seem like the crowds are dead now when I listen to it...

Anyways, here are the Smackdown spoilers:
Dark Match:

* Michelle McCool pinned Victoria.

Smackdown:

* WWE World champ Edge comes to the ring to discuss his match at Wrestlemania with the Undertaker. Edge says they are both undefeated at Mania, but Edge will end Taker's streak. The lights go out and Taker hits the ring. He chokeslams the Edgeheads but Edge escapes.

* Shelton Benjamin defeated Jimmy Wang Yang in a Money in the Bank Qualifying match.

* Backstage, Maryse led Teddy Long into a room, saying she needed to show him something.

* Jesse and Festus defeated Deuce and Domino.

* Big Daddy V pinned Shannon Moore.

* Batista pinned MVP in a non-title match after the Batista Bomb.

* Kane pinned The Great Khali. Khali had the head vice on Kane, but Kane ran up the ropes and pushed off, forcing Khali down.

* Chuck Palumbo pinned Matt Jackson.

* Rey Mysterio came out and announced that he needed to miss Wrestlemania because of surgery on his torn biceps. Chavo Guerrero came out and Rey defeated him in a non-title match. Vickie Guerrero came out and said that wasn't good enough after what he did to her, which brought out Big Show. Show attacked Rey and chokeslammed him, saying that he was doing this to Rey but in his mind, he was really doing it to Floyd Mayweather.

Dark Match:

* Undertaker & Batista & Kane defeated WWE World champion Edge & The Edgeheads.

[Emfulz]

This is going to be interesting, Edge vs. Undertaker; both undefeated at wrestlemania. I bet undertaker will win just because he's been at wrestlemania more and won more times then edge so they always have to make the better populated star win most of the time. I'd just like to see Edge win so undertaker can FINALLY lose a wrestlemania after all these other ones I seen him win, and a couple of them he could have lost but what happened? You get the picture(i hope)

[wild dog]

Learn to read dude. I already explained everything that happened with the Kennedy thing from last year.



What are you talking about ? I know you explained all that, all im saying is that I find it funny hes in another money in the bank and that id like to see him win a title ! no offence but jeez get a grip.

[sam49]

This is going to be interesting, Edge vs. Undertaker; both undefeated at wrestlemania. I bet undertaker will win just because he's been at wrestlemania more and won more times then edge so they always have to make the better populated star win most of the time. I'd just like to see Edge win so undertaker can FINALLY lose a wrestlemania after all these other ones I seen him win, and a couple of them he could have lost but what happened? You get the picture(i hope)
Is Edge still hyped up as undefeated because at WM 23 he didnt loose but neither did he win?

[Shinsetsu]

Also, about that west coast filtering thing, is that why it sounds not so loud lately? Makes it seem like the crowds are dead now when I listen to it...


They went to smackdown as well, so i'll find out Friday if it was filtered, but yeah West Coast we get a filtered sound feed apparently. Like pops or boos sometimes get filtered lower, or higher it seems. Or sometimes they take it out completely. Because I was told Orton and Cena BOTH had louder pops than what was televised to the west.

[Nick G 42390]

They went to smackdown as well, so i'll find out Friday if it was filtered, but yeah West Coast we get a filtered sound feed apparently. Like pops or boos sometimes get filtered lower, or higher it seems. Or sometimes they take it out completely. Because I was told Orton and Cena BOTH had louder pops than what was televised to the west.

I thought it sounded really quite. It always seemed really quite when Big Show returned. Hopefully that gets fixed because I really don't like that. I use to hearing a loud eruption when Hardy, HHH, Cena and all those others come out but haven't since the whole HD thing.

@Wild Dog- My bad dude, thought you meant something else bro.

[silentkiller]

If anybody read the spoilers Shelton qulified for MITB.......You think Y2J will be in MITB since at 1st i thought he would face JBL but after RAW with him attacking Hornswoggle and all maybe JBL vs Finlay at WM24.......Also Carlito should be in MITB it would be great for him and maybe Santino....he cant wrestle but his whole gimmick is hilarious if not then Carlito/Santino vs Hardcore Holly/Cody Rhodes for the tag titles at WM24......

[sam49]

If anybody read the spoilers Shelton qulified for MITB.......You think Y2J will be in MITB since at 1st i thought he would face JBL but after RAW with him attacking Hornswoggle and all maybe JBL vs Finlay at WM24.......Also Carlito should be in MITB it would be great for him and maybe Santino....he cant wrestle but his whole gimmick is hilarious if not then Carlito/Santino vs Hardcore Holly/Cody Rhodes for the tag titles at WM24......
What has happened to Carlito? He hasnt been on RAW for ages.

[silentkiller]

He was in a feud with Santion against Holly and Cody for the titles but looks like they will put him on the side for now with the whole Maria/Playboy thing and Santino not wanting it to happen.....

[tadpeters]

The last RAW I watched full-length was when Jericho made his re-arrival. Long time ago, I know. I used to watch it every single week but I've just been so busy with mah gamuhscore I just ain't had duh time!

I may sit down and watch next Monday.

PS: Why don't they just close ECW? It's not even ECW anymore.

[sam49]

After readin this article I bet no wrestler would want to win the triple threat at WM 24 for WWE title.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2008/articles/1203570198.php

[silentkiller]

Man that was the best reading i have done in a while. The guy just made everything clear with making 3-ways at WM....Wow just wow!

[sam49]

I hope Cena wins the WWE title at WM 24 so the curse strikes him and he has to leave WWE for 4 years.

[Nick G 42390]

The McMahons have been rumored to be interested in starting a mixed martial arts promotion. Shane McMahon in particular is said to be a big fan of the sport and the McMahon name has come up a number of times when various promotions have been up for sale (including PRIDE) or starting up.

Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban has spoken before about working with the McMahons in the MMA world. Cuban owns "HDNet", a high-definition TV channel that features a lot of MMA shows. HE is trying to put together the heavyweight fight that everyone wants to see later this year - Randy Couture vs. Fedor Emelianenko.

In a recent interview with The Edmonton Sun (http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2008/02/21/4864241-sun.html), Cuban was asked:

Are you trying to form an MMA company to rival the UFC? Are you thinking of involving the McMahon family from the WWE?

His answer was: "Absolutely. We are looking to partner where we can, do our own promotions where it makes sense. We think the future is built around the fighters and their personalities. No one else has this focus and partnership approach. We think it's a winner."

Hogan Wants To Fight Flair At Wrestlemania 24.
Just days after claiming that he is on the verge of starting his own wrestling promotion with Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan now says that he wants to fight Ric Flair at WrestleMania.

Hogan told MTV.com, "they need a main event real bad, brother" and said WWE still has a lot of tickets to sell. Hogan said that with Flair's career on the line, it's the perfect match to have - and he even has an idea for who could be the special guest referee. “Either he’ll put me out for good or I’ll put him out for good. One or the other. That would be the match of the new millennium. Hogan vs. Flair. Maybe get Vince McMahon as a special guest referee. Me and Flair both hate Vince.”

With the involvement of boxing superstar Floyd Mayweather at WrestleMania, it looks like Hogan has realized that WrestleMania will be a success with or without him. With minimal leverage, he's putting his cards on the table and showing that he does still want a piece of the action.

Hogan also commented on a possible match with Steve Austin. "That’s on him. Apparently he don’t want none. I’m easy to find, my brother."


We reported here on Tuesday that Hulk Hogan is making public statements that he should be the one to wrestle Ric Flair at WrestleMania XXIV. He even suggested Vince McMahon as the special guest referee!

Hulk Hogan was a guest on the Todd Wright Show on Sporting News Radio last night and once again he brought up the "dream match" of Hogan vs. Flair at WrestleMania.

Todd Wright asked Hulk about American Gladiators and Hogan Knows Best. Hulk then turned the conversation to wrestling, where he once again said that "there really is no main event for WrestleMania XXIV". Hulk said that he and Flair could tear down the house and Vince should make the match happen.

The chances of this happening are a real long shot. While it's not impossible that Hogan gets involved at WrestleMania in some capacity, its unlikely Flair would want to have his final big match against someone who is known for stealing the spotlight.

Hogan vs. Great Khali match would probably be a better way to go - Hogan gets a win over another big slug and Flair can face HBK - somebody who can carry him to a classic match and would work hard to put him over.


Also, RAW is in Phoenix on Monday so hooray! My dream for front row seats was not made yet again this year. I'll probably end up in 5th row like I did for ECW/Smackdown. So, now I'll definitely be able to tell if sounds get muted out on the TV.

[sam49]

^ Hope you have a nice time, Nick.

[silentkiller]

i went to this years Royal Rumble at MSG it was fricken unbeliveable....Best day ever!!!

[sam49]

I went to a houseshow back in 2005. There were some good matches ons how. But my best one was Undertaker vs Kurt Angle. It simply was a great match.

[Pieface]

Ive just started watching this again, haven't really been a fan since it changed to WWE but one thing that Pisses me off is how stupid it gets.
Take for example jesse and Feetus, its the most moronic and stupidest thing that feetus is in a "trance" until the bell goes. We're not idiots.

But yeah, taker to beat edge deffo

[sam49]

^^ I think Edge may as well is gonna end Undertaker's streak.

And here is an interesting read:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=205792321

[Nick G 42390]

Jeff Hardy On New Hardy Boyz DVD:
Matt Hardy's recently updated his blog on his official myspace page, including comments from Jeff Hardy on the new Hardy Boys DVD. The following is the updated section from Matt Hardy's latest blog:

FINAL UPDATE-WORDS DIRECTLY FROM "THE CHARISMATIC ENIGMA" JEFF HARDY ABOUT THE NEW WWE MATT & JEFF DVD! HE JUST WATCHED IT ON FEBRUARY 21ST!

From Jeff-"I've been on the road for almost three weeks, and just now got to watch our new DVD with Matt. All of the fans will love this DVD-it amazingly capture a total honesty of the last few years of mine and Matt's careers! When you see 'Twist of Fate', you'll respect the honesty and connection that we have with the fans more than you ever have. To me, it's metaphorically a total inspiration for anyone to follow their dreams and never believe the disbelievers. It makes me proud of what two kids from Cameron did."

Victoria Opening A Custom Car Shop:
ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero will be at the WrestleMania Fan Axxess Tour, signing autographs from 4-6pm today at Universal City Walk, Universal City, CA. For a guaranteed autograph, pick up a wristband at the Fan Nation Station at the start the event. Wristbands are limited to 200 per day.

CM Punk is scheduled to be signing autographs today at New York Sports at The Broadway Mall, Hicksville, NY. He will be there from 2 to 4pm, for more information, call (516) 942-8185. Candice Michelle is also scheduled for an autograph session today at GameStop 3580 Stevens Creek Blvd San Jose, CA 95117, San Jose, CA from 4-6pm.

WWE Diva Victoria has announced that she will be opening a custom car shop in Louisville, KY. She is scheduled to have the shop open some time next month, she noted that they have finished their first build, which was customizing her Chrysler 300C. She also mentioned that she was involved in all aspects of the design of the vehicle, and that she has a crew that are able to complete anything.

[Nick G 42390]

Cena Blasts The Rock:
Former WWE champion John Cena recently lashed out at Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in a recent interview with The Sun in the United Kingdom. Cena was quoted as saying the following:

"He is a genuinely nice guy and a fantastic human being. What I kind of get peeved about, and this is my Achilles heel, is that I've wanted to do this my whole life. Rock falls into that category. At one point he loved wrestling and wanted to do this all his life. So explain to me why he can't come back. Simply put it's because he wants to be an actor and there's nothing wrong with that. He's very good and very successful. Associating with sports entertainment doesn't do much for his acting career. I get it. Just don't f*** me around and tell me that you love this. That's the only thing that gets me really p***ed off. Our fan base have so much admiration for him, he's got to respect that. He doesn't give anything back."


More On Cena's Comments:
John Cena got some major heat from veteran wrestlers in the WWE locker room for his negative comments about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in an interview with The Sun in the UK. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that several people are real upset about Cena's strong words.

"At one point he loved wrestling and wanted to do this all his life. So explain to me why he can't come back. Simply put it's because he wants to be an actor and there's nothing wrong with that." Cena said. "He's very good and very successful. Associating with sports entertainment doesn't do much for his acting career. I get it. Just don't f*** me around and tell me that you love this. That's the only thing that gets me really p***ed off. Our fan base have so much admiration for him, he's got to respect that. He doesn't give anything back."

It's worth noting that these comments were made prior to The Rock agreeing to appear at the 2008 WWE Hall Of Fame ceremony, but The Sun only released them recently.


Wanna see Maria's Playboy cover before Monday?

http://www.sescoops.com/images2/000.jpg

A 3 hour RAW in March:
- As we reported earlier, Colin Delaney's WWE contract is a three year deal. The story behind Delaney getting a shot in WWE is that Brody Lee, who teamed with Colin and Jimmy Olsen in CHIKARA Pro Wrestling was backstage at a WWE event several weeks ago. The company was looking for a guy to get squashed but felt like Brody was too big. According to Bryan Alvarez, Brody called Jimmy Olsen and when he didn't answer, they got Colin to do the job. The rest is history.

- The USA Network has announced that the April 7th edition of WWE Monday Night Raw will be three-hours long. As we reported a few days ago, the March 10th edition of Raw will also be three hours long.

Hogan cheated on Linda with one of Brooke's best friends:
Reports are surfacing that the Hulkster had an affair while he was still living with his wife, prompting Linda to file for divorce from him. But what makes it even more interesting is that Hulk allegedly had an affair with a close friend of his daughter Brooke.

Christiane Plante, a 33 year old friend who worked with Brooke on her album back in 2006, has confessed to The National Enquirer about her affair. Christiane told them:

"My relationship with Terry [Hulk Hogan] began at a time when Terry and Linda privately knew their marriage was ending. She had left him already, although no official papers had been filed. Terry is a good man, good father and a good friend, and he and I grew close at a time when he was going through a very difficult period. It seemed right then, but I know it was wrong."

"Having felt the guilt and pain build up, I gave a note to Brooke apologising for my actions. I will never be able to fully forgive myself for this. I have lost an amazing friend."

Awww, she feels so bad that she contacted the National Enquirer and got paid to talk about the situation. The poor thing! The alleged affair took place last year, while the family was still shooting their reality TV show and Hull and Linda had yet to split. Even better - Christiane Plante is given "special thanks" in the credits that aired at the end of last season's episodes. Zinnng!

Hulk's daughter Brooke is rightfully distraught over the situation. She posted the following blog entries on her official MySpace page over the past week:

Thursday, February 21, 2008

hey….
Current mood: distressed
Category: Life

I'm going through one of the hardest issues i've ever had to deal with in my life…please keep me and my family in your prayers…. I'm continuing work in the studio… I'm sure my writing will reflect my state of mind at the moment. I need all the support i can get. thank you…

love you much,
b

Brooke also posted the following blog, but later deleted it:

Saturday, February 23, 2008

i never thought…

Current mood: sad
Category: Life

When your best friend and one of your closest family members that you have loved unconditionally since your first day on this earth, betrays you together, you could MAYBE find it in yourself to forgive one day… but you will NEVER forget the hurt they caused you and how it hurt the people who mean the most to you…its the worst feeling in the world to be betrayed. And worse to know you can never trust the one you should be able to…

[sam49]

Man, John Cena thinks he is 'the man' of WWE when he isnt. He seriously needs to come off from the title contention.

[Bax x360a]

Wow, I heard Hulf and Linda were splitting up, but didn't know its because Hulk cheated on her :eek: With Brookes friend :eek:!!! That is just genius, fair play to you Hulk Hogan. I will forever be a Hulkamaniac :p

[UNDERWALLY]

Wow Hogan cheated hahaha I can't believe it, and Cena, he sucks sooo much, but he's right about the rock, he can't even take a day of his life to go to the Raw Aniversary, or anything else, he sucks

[CLAPSTER]

Wow, I heard Hulk and Linda were splitting up, but didn't know its because Hulk cheated on her :eek: With Brooke's friend :eek:!!! That is just genius, fair play to you Hulk Hogan. I will forever be a Hulkamaniac :p

Linda said the reason for the divorce was, that he lied to her telling her she was signing something about the house, and she was really signing something money related. He lied to her that way not cheating.

Wow Hogan cheated hahaha I can't believe it, and Cena, he sucks sooo much, but he's right about the rock, he can't even take a day of his life to go to the Raw Anniversary, or anything else, he sucks

Cena may suck, the modern Rock also, but hey he's going to introduce his family in to the hall of fame I think. I haven't been seeing it recently, I saw two weeks back I believe.l

[Bax x360a]

Linda said the reason for the divorce was, that he lied to her telling her she was signing something about the house, and she was really signing something money related. He lied to her that way not cheating.
Fair enough. Seems a bit harsh to end a long term marriage over though, I'm sure they've been through worse times than that...

[Georgekoog7]

Is It Me or is WM really predictable this year?

[sam49]

^ WM is predictable this year?
The WHC is looking interesting and for some reason I think Edge might finally end the Taker's record. The triple threat is looking very, very unpredictable. The Big Show match is looking unpredictable as well. The only way to truly find out who is going to win is going to be the episode before WM because 99.999% the person who has the advantage looses.

[CLAPSTER]

^ WM is predictable this year?
The WHC is looking interesting and for some reason I think Edge might finally end the Taker's record. The triple threat is looking very, very unpredictable. The Big Show match is looking unpredictable as well. The only way to truly find out who is going to win is going to be the episode before WM because 99.999% the person who has the advantage looses.

Edge is not going to end Taker's streak, Edge isn't in Undertaker's league, for them to give him that. Triple H is going to win, and Cena's going to get pedigreed. :p The boxer is going to win, probably. WWE is so dumb in the storylines nowadays.

Example: Hornswoggle is really Finlay's son?

[Nick G 42390]

Interesting Interview With Kurt Angle:
Kurt Angle recently spoke very openly with Wrestling-Radio.com host Orlando Quinones about several subjects including WWE erasing Chris Benoit's name from the books, his DUI, his family life and much more. You can listen to the interview here (http://www.wrestling-radio.com/?view=audiointerview).

- Kurt says that TNA's goal is to match SmackDown's ratings, and wants to get it done within the next year.

- Angle says that Booker T is one of the best in the business, and isn't only a great wrestler but a great coach to the younger guys. He says that when Booker T came in, Booker got him more focused on helping the younger guys which Angle admits he wasn't doing as much as he could have been.

- On the subject of Chris Benoit, he says that Chris was a very quiet guy who kept to himself, and he never thought Chris would do something like that. Angle said that the first version of the story he heard had Chris's wife and son dieing from food poisoning which lead to Chris killing himself, but as time went on the real truth revealed itself. Angle says that the Benoit incident was not because of pro wrestling, but because of Chris' personal decisions, including not taking time off when he needed it as opposed to Angle and Booker who both left when they were unhappy.

- Kurt says that WWE erasing Chris Benoit's name from the history books is B.S., and you can't re-write history no matter how bad it was.

- Kurt spoke on his DUI, saying that he had three beers at a restaurant and the only person who said he was driving erratically was some crazy lady that he accidentally cut off. The police questioned people working at two construction sites that Angle passed in his Cadillac Escalade and they didn't see anything out of the ordinary. The lady who called the police on him had a DUI herself just three weeks earlier, and actually wrote down his license number to give to the police on the back of a receipt from a liquor store which had enough alcoholic purchases on it to kill three people. Angle says he passed the field tests, but was arrested for not taking the blood test at the advice of his agent. Kurt says his agent is an NFL agent and knows that if they find the pain-blockers Angle takes in his blood test they will blow it out of proportion.

- Kurt says for the first two years of his daughter's life, he was gone so much working for WWE that she was calling him Kurt instead of Dad because she thought he was a friend of the family. Kurt says that Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett give him a schedule that has let him clean up his life and he feels much better about his health and his family now.

- Angle speaks on TNA's drug testing. He says that Dixie and Jeff are both concerned about keeping their talent clean, and Jeff had Angle tested a few weeks ago.

- In regards to power struggle rumors, Kurt admits that the first month in TNA was very rocky between him and Jeff Jarrett. After the first month though things smoothed out and after a sit-down talk him and Jeff have gotten along great.

- Kurt says that he is very good friends with Bobby Lashley was he was actually the one who got him his WWE try-out. Kurt talks with Lashley every week, and says there's a possibility he might come to TNA.

- Kurt says that WWE would probably be more innovative and unpredictable if Triple H would just fall back a little bit. Kurt says that The Undertaker is doing things the right way, he is a veteran but he goes in cycles between the main event and mid-card and helps to make new guys in the business. Kurt says that he once told Stephanie that Triple H would be a bigger asset to the company backstage as an agent or creative team member, and out of the ring.

- Kurt says that Brock may have lost his first fight with UFC but he did a great job and just made a rookie mistake. He says that when the referee stopped the fight, he should have put them back in the position they were in rather than standing them up again. Kurt admits that there was a little bit of heat between him and Brock, but has nothing bad to say about him.

Smackdown Spoliers:
Credit: Richard Gray & WrestlingNewsWorld.com

WWE taped this week’s edition of Friday Night SmackDown from the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. They taped ECW on Sci-Fi earlier in the night. Below are pre-show notes and match results from this week's tapings. I apologize for the lack of detail as we were not given a lot of information but at least we have results.

Pre-Show Notes:

- They are having an ice storm in Cleveland right now, so it might be causing some transportation problems. Our correspondent arrived several minutes late.

- According to our correspondent, the arena is 70% full. Again, attendance could be effected by the severe weather.

Dark Match:

Kofi Kingston def. Kevin Thorn

WWE SmackDown (Air Date 3/07):

The show opens with the Cutting Edge segment with Ric Flair as Edge's guest. Flair talks trash to Edge and calls his relationship with Vickie Guerrero a sham. Eventually Flair slaps Edge and Vickie Guerrero breaks up the fight.

Jesse, Festus, & CM Punk def. Chavo Guerrero, The Miz, & John Morrision
Festus hit his finisher on The Miz to pick up the victory.

A backstage vignette airs with Jamie Noble and Michelle McCool.

It is announced that Undertaker will face Edge, Zack Ryder, and Curt Hawkins later tonight.

Shannon Moore def. Deuce
Jimmy Wang Yang came out with Moore while Domino was with Deuce. Moore won the match via pinfall after he hit a superkick on Deuce.

US Champion MVP def. Batista to retain
The match was in and out of the ring. MVP picked up the victory when Batista was counted out.

Backstage segment with Jamie Noble. He says that he wants to face Chuck Palumbo, however, Palumbo is set to go against Kane tonight. Noble will face Big Show.

It was confirmed that television personality Kim Kardashian will be a guest at WrestleMania XXIV.

A WWE Diva swimsuit competition is next. Featured are Eve Torres, Maryse, Victoria, Michelle McCool, and Cherry. It is announced that one diva will be voted off each week as fans will be able to vote through text messages. During the segment, Victoria fell off the middle turnbuckle.

Kane def. Chuck Palumbo
I was told it was pretty much a squash with Palumbo walking right into Kane's chokeslam. Kane got the pinfall for the victory.

Big Show def. Jamie Noble
Noble got himself disqualified by hitting a low blow on Big Show. Big Show retaliated with a severe beat down that resulted on Noble being busted open. He gets on the mic and taunts Floyd Mayweather.

World Heavyweight Champion Edge, Zack Ryder, & Curt Hawkins defeat The Undertaker.
The only information that I got from the match was that Ryder, Hawkins, and Edge won the bought after Edge hit a Spear. It was given a significant amount of time.

Lashley To TNA?
Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that Booker T and Kurt Angle are pushing TNA officials to reach out to Bobby Lashley.

While Lashley has been telling people that he wants to pursue a career in Mixed Martial Arts, there is a much better chance that he will end up in TNA Wrestling.

According to Meltzer, Lashley will be free to do whatever he wants when WWE finishes paying on his contract in May.

-- If you thought the Floyd Mayweather segments on this Monday's Raw were bad, you're not the only one. Head creative team member Stephanie McMahon was said to be very upset with how Floyd Mayweather's speaking segments came off on Raw. Bruce "Brother Love" Prichard was in charge of Mayweather's segments, and Stephanie allegedly chewed him out for doing such a bad job of directing him. Stephanie hasn't been backstage at WWE shows due to her pregnancy, but she made her feelings known to Prichard in a telephone conversation with him.

-- It was announced at last night’s SmackDown taping that Ric Flair will face Edge, Curt Hawkins, and Zack Ryder on next week’s edition of SmackDown in a steel cage match. The match will not be a “career threatening match.”

[Bax x360a]

No wonder why the WWE storylines suck these days with Stephanie McMahon in charge of the creative team, jeez. If Taker looses his streak at Wrestlemania, that would really piss me off. The man is a legend and deserves some sort of record to go down in history. I'm actually astonished he hasen't won the title on more occassions, not a very good way to treat someone so talented and so dedicated to the company.

[sam49]

I actually want Edge to end the streak. (Yeah, I'm and Edge fan!)

[Bax x360a]

Meh, I doubt I'll watch Wrestlemania anyway, can't be arsed to pay £14.95 for it :p Thats another Blu Ray!

[sam49]

My friend is a vivid WWE fan, so I'll probably be off to his house to watch it. (Yes I know I'm a tramp. lol.)

[Pieface]

Meh, I doubt I'll watch Wrestlemania anyway, can't be arsed to pay £14.95 for it :p Thats another Blu Ray!
True, £15 is deffinitely not worth it to watch something for free the next day.

[sam49]

Huh? For free?

[sterob70]

Huh? For free?

i think he means that the day after ppvs the ppv is on youtube until they get deleted by the admin type ppl

[sam49]

Well what a surprise. Jeff Hardy got caught for breaking the drug policy and got suspended for 2 months. I knew he was getting too cocky.

[Shinsetsu]

AH Jeff does it again. He will NEVER get a title shot now. Go Jericho!

[sam49]

And I also doubt that Jericho will win MITB. I would say Mr Kennedy since last year he won it but he got injured.

[Nick G 42390]

And I also doubt that Jericho will win MITB. I would say Mr Kennedy since last year he won it but he got injured.

Come on Sam, if you're as big a fan as you make it seem you would know Kennedy wasn't injured, he was one of the 10 superstars suspended for violation of the wellness policy.;) That's why he had to give up his title shot and that's why Hornswoggle was named McMachon's son. It was originally gonna be Kennedy.

As for Hardy, first off, it wasn't anything like steroids, it was a recreational drug so it was either weed or coke. That's what Jeff got caught with last time. I think it sucks and is horrible timing seeing as how they had plans to make him champ sometime this year. I also thing it is stupid is they don't do that now. It wasn't affecting his work so who gives a shit? Sad to see that he may never get to hold the World Title even though he's worked his ass off and deserves to one day be champ....

How was Hardy being cocky? I would just like to know why you think that....

[Ptbull2020]

Anybody else here going to mania??

[punker]

As for Hardy, first off, it wasn't anything like steroids, it was a recreational drug so it was either weed or coke. That's what Jeff got caught with last time. I think it sucks and is horrible timing seeing as how they had plans to make him champ sometime this year. I also thing it is stupid is they don't do that now. It wasn't affecting his work so who gives a shit?

How does it not effect his work? Granted Jeff is great, I'm a huge fan. But in an industry where a career/life ending injury could happen at anytime, Jeff going to the ring high could be disastrous. If he doesn't have his bearings, one wrong Swanton means a broken neck. He could not catch someone properly from a plancha to the floor and hurt them pretty badly. He could drop someone on their head. A lot of things can happen. Those guys go out there with not only their well-being in their hands, but their opponents as well.

[Nick G 42390]

Who said he goes to work high? There are off days you know. Maybe one or two a week and I guarantee that is when he did it. Anyone can smoke pot and still have a full time job. As long as you don't do it at work or let it effect your work, you're good. Jeff wasn't letting it effect his work.

[sam49]

Come on Sam, if you're as big a fan as you make it seem you would know Kennedy wasn't injured, he was one of the 10 superstars suspended for violation of the wellness policy.;) That's why he had to give up his title shot and that's why Hornswoggle was named McMachon's son. It was originally gonna be Kennedy.

As for Hardy, first off, it wasn't anything like steroids, it was a recreational drug so it was either weed or coke. That's what Jeff got caught with last time. I think it sucks and is horrible timing seeing as how they had plans to make him champ sometime this year. I also thing it is stupid is they don't do that now. It wasn't affecting his work so who gives a shit? Sad to see that he may never get to hold the World Title even though he's worked his ass off and deserves to one day be champ....

How was Hardy being cocky? I would just like to know why you think that....
Huh? Wasnt there a injury first that made him loose his MITB to Edge and then when he was to recieve a push (Being Mr Mcmahon sons) he got caught for the online drug policy or was it the other way around? And BTW way I personally think he was being cocky because of him getting caught with drugs and thinking he could get away with it.

[punker]

Who said he goes to work high? There are off days you know. Maybe one or two a week and I guarantee that is when he did it. Anyone can smoke pot and still have a full time job. As long as you don't do it at work or let it effect your work, you're good. Jeff wasn't letting it effect his work.

Two things:

1. How exactly can you "guarantee" when he did his drugs?

2. He was NOT busted for marijuana. If you read the WWE Wellness Policy, it states that the punishment for marijuana is a $1,000 fine and a warning... no suspension.

Like I said before, don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Jeff Hardy fan. He's the reason I ordered Royal Rumble and No Way Out, and I was pretty mad when he didn't win at either show. But this suspension... it's a preventive measure. If Jeff was using pain killers excessively, or if he's slipped back into his meth habit which was what led to his release in 2003, then they want to get him to stop-- especially in light of events in recent years (such as Eddie Guerrero's death and the Benoit murder/suicide). The company feels more culpable now than they ever have in their history. The press is looking at them more harshly, as is congress. Better to suspend him now, get him the help he needs, and he can come back in two months with a fresh head. Which really, for him isn't all that bad. True, it came at a horrible time-- since he was the favorite to win the Money In The Bank match-- but if anyone in the company can use a rest mentally and physically, I'm guessing it's Jeff.

Also, 'nothing has happened yet' is a ridiculously poor argument. If someone shoots a gun into a crowd but doesn't hit anyone, the police don't show up and say, "Well, it's ok... he hasn't killed anyone yet, so we're not going to take the gun away."

[sam49]

^ I lol'd so hardly at your gun example.

[Nick G 42390]

@Sam-It was the other way around. The injury was fake, he was suspended.

@Punker-Good points. I guess we should just wait and see what happens. I really hope he can get another shot. He was respected by many guys in the back and everyone was pulling for him to finally be champ. Hopefully Vince still let's that happen eventually.

[punker]

It's a major set back for now that could not have come at a worse time. Jeff was arguably the most over face in the company, and has never had a hotter time in his career.

But I think the company is pretty forgiving. Hell, Orton was suspended how many times last year? And he's the champion right now. Jeff will be back around mid-May, will probably have to work his way up the card a bit again, but by Survivor Series, if he's still as over as he has been, I'm sure they'll start to push him into the main event again.

[ThunderStorm101]

im glad hardy cant win MITB, he was getting pushed for the title way to fast, there was a danger of him turning into the next cena but with more talent which no one wants so its not all bad

Ill be watching WM me and some mates watch it to split the cost, cant beat the buzz of live on a good tele

,T/S101

[Shinsetsu]

im glad hardy cant win MITB, he was getting pushed for the title way to fast, there was a danger of him turning into the next cena but with more talent which no one wants so its not all bad

Ill be watching WM me and some mates watch it to split the cost, cant beat the buzz of live on a good tele

,T/S101

It's not hard to have more talent than Cena. You just need to know more than 6 moves. Ultimate Warrior I think had more.

[sam49]

@Sam-It was the other way around. The injury was fake, he was suspended.

@Punker-Good points. I guess we should just wait and see what happens. I really hope he can get another shot. He was respected by many guys in the back and everyone was pulling for him to finally be champ. Hopefully Vince still let's that happen eventually.
I thought it would be like that way.

[CLAPSTER]

I actually want Edge to end the streak. (Yeah, I'm and Edge fan!)
Oh lord, I hope not. Edge isn't in Undertaker's league.

[ThunderStorm101]

i think taker will win and will retire next mania keeping his streak

[sam49]

But I for some reason want Undetaker to loose. And its not like I have a grudge against him either but I want him to loose to Edge for some reason.

[CLAPSTER]

But I for some reason want Undetaker to loose. And its not like I have a grudge against him either but I want him to loose to Edge for some reason.

Because your blinded by the way they promote Edge, making him look like he's cool.
He should lose just for kissing Vicky Guerrero :eek: how can he do that.

[punker]

Edge is carving his niche in wrestling history to be mentioned alongside Flair, Michaels, Jericho, etc... as guys who are not only the best performers in the ring, but the best on the mic as well. Plus, he's possibly the best heel the company's had in the past three years.

[UNDERWALLY]

Yeah, Edge is an amazing heel, but I'm with Taker, he really deserves it, and Edge kisssing Vickie.. he should lose for that too, totally agree with CLAPSTER

UPDATE: Jeff Hardy's house lost in fire! OMG, total loss, damn, Hardy is having the worst month

[Shinsetsu]

Yeah, Edge is an amazing heel, but I'm with Taker, he really deserves it, and Edge kisssing Vickie.. he should lose for that too, totally agree with CLAPSTER

UPDATE: Jeff Hardy's house lost in fire! OMG, total loss, damn, Hardy is having the worst month

I heard it was a gas fire in his trailer.
Seriously, sounds like he was trying to kill himself, but I don't think he was there.

[sam49]

Jeff Hardy is having one of those tough times everyone experiences sometime in their career. But what I dont usually see is when the toop superstars fall this hardly like Hardy.

[o Rebelz x]

why would edge want to marry the guerro man ???
maybe its a big twist in the storyline soon to come
and why would edges fiance disrespect rey HE WAS EDDIES BEST FRIEND !

[Shadow Of A Man]

From what i heard Matt Hardy might come back as a surprise just like Cena at RR and Big Show at No Way Out and participate in the MITB

[MrMondayNite341]

Does anybody think that WWE had just gone down hill in tha last 10 years. I remeber the late 90's, back the it was still good. Now, its just different............:(

[Nick G 42390]

why would edge want to marry the guerro man ???
maybe its a big twist in the storyline soon to come
and why would edges fiance disrespect rey HE WAS EDDIES BEST FRIEND !

Jesus christ, how much wrestling do you actually watch?

[sam49]

From what i heard Matt Hardy might come back as a surprise just like Cena at RR and Big Show at No Way Out and participate in the MITB

Yeah I heard the same as well. I think it may as well be true because theres only 7 people participating and nearly 99.9% of the time all the contestants are even number.

[JohnFrantastic]

Expect Matt to knock MVP off the ladder...interfering and costing MVP the case, and re-igniting the fued flame.
WM Predictions
MITB - Kennedy
Batista Umaga - Tista
HBK Flair - Flair but retires anyway (would you send a 17x world champ out on a loss at WM)
Money Show - Show
Trips Cena Orton - Trips
Chavo ? - ? probs Kane OR A surprise Gregory Helms return?
Taker Edge - Taker ( dont be and r tard and end his streak )
Bunnymania - Who gives a left one?
Finlay JBL - See above

Thats it, I think?

[UNDERWALLY]

Expect Matt to knock MVP off the ladder...interfering and costing MVP the case, and re-igniting the fued flame.
WM Predictions
MITB - Kennedy
Batista Umaga - Tista
HBK Flair - Flair but retires anyway (would you send a 17x world champ out on a loss at WM)
Money Show - Show
Trips Cena Orton - Trips
Chavo ? - ? probs Kane OR A surprise Gregory Helms return?
Taker Edge - Taker ( dont be and r tard and end his streak )
Bunnymania - Who gives a left one?
Finlay JBL - See above

Thats it, I think?
These are my predictions:
MITB: Kennedy
Batista vs Umaga: Batista
HBK vs Flair: I think it's going to be match of the year, and Flair wins, but I don't think he will retire, he doesn't want to, he really wants to keep wrestling
Money vs Show: Big Show
Taker vs Edge: TAKER!!!!
Bunnymania- I don't give a rat's ass
Finlay vs JBL: Finlay
Chavo vs ??: Dude, your idea is great, Helms returning would be AWESOME, if he doesn't I hope Kane wins
Orton vs Triple H vs Cena: Triple H wins title
Triple H vs Mr Kennedy: Kennedy wins title after cashing MITB :woop::woop::woop: I HOPE!!!!

[Nick G 42390]

MITB: Kennedy/Y2J
Batista vs Umaga: Umaga
HBK vs Flair: HBK
Money vs Show: Money Mayweather Babyyy haha.
Taker vs Edge: Taker
Bunnymania- Ashkey and Maria.
Finlay vs JBL: Finlay
Chavo vs Mark Henry: Mark Henry
Orton vs Triple H vs Cena: Triple H or Cena. More than likely it will be H but I know Randy is losing his title.

[darkXhawk]

HBK Flair - Flair but retires anyway (would you send a 17x world champ out on a loss at WM)

He's a 16 time champ.

Anyway. Did anyone watch the Hall of Fame? The speeches given by HHH and Flair were very touching. I really enjoyed the speech by John Cena. He basically told the fans to shut up and stop booing him and start cheering for the legends that they were there to honor.

[sam49]

Well looks like its time for my predictions which I will say are obviously gonna be 99.9999% accurate. lol. Anyway heres sam49's extravagnaza predictions:

BunnyMania Lumberjack Match
Master of Ceremonies: Snoop Dogg
- Maria & Ashley Massaro vs. WWE Women's Champion Beth Phoenix & Melina.
My prediction: Maria's team but who will actually care is the question.

Belfast Brawl
- JBL vs. Finlay.
My prediction: Finlay. I just cant see JBL winning. Another thing is that JBL wins, but Finlay starts beating the crap out of him after the match.

Raw vs. Smackdown: Which is the superior brand in WWE?
- Umaga (Raw) vs. Batista (Smackdown).
My Prediction: No contest.

Career Threatening Match
- Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels.
My Prediction: Ric Flair. Yep he is going to loose, no doubt.

- Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. The Big Show.
My Prediction: Floyd Mayweather. Well if this really does go on his record then yeah he is definately gonna win.

"Money in the Bank" Ladder Match
(Winner earns a shot at a WWE World Title)
- WWE Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho vs. Mr. Kennedy vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Carlito vs. WWE U.S. Champion MVP vs. CM Punk vs. WWE Tag Team Champion John Morrison.
My Prediction: I think that Mr K is gonna win since he got screwed out of the MITB last year. (Yes he won it, but the injury caused him to loose it to Edge)

ECW Championship Match
- Chavo Guerrero (c) vs. Winner of 24-Man Battle Royal.
My Prediction: Kane's gonna win the 24 man battle royal and beat Chavo Guerrero

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- Edge (c) vs. The Undertaker.
My Prediction: Edge. I think it is very, very likely that Undertaker's streak is going to come to an end.

WWE Championship - Triple Threat Match
- Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H vs. John Cena.
My Prediction: I really think that all 3 have a fair chance of winning even Orton, but if I had to choose one, then its HHH.


Well those are my predictions.

[Emfulz]

Who else is tired of seeing undertaker win? I thought Edge had a big chance but it is getting old seeing Undertaker win every wrestlemania he is in and it needs to stop! I think he needs to be in a handicap match elimination against 5 other people no disqualification tornado. If he would win that [match is never gonna happen] I would stop watching T.V. forever :eek: I thought the same thing for John Cena because he got played out to quick, winning every title match he was in till they realized it was getting boring for entertainment. (Just my Thoughts)

[Jonesy2008]

Right, Results.
MITB- CM Punk
Batista VS Umaga- Batista
JBL VS Finlay- JBL
BunnyMania- Beth Phoenix and Melina
Money VS Show- Money (KO)
Triple Threat For The WWE Championship- Orton Retains
World Heavyweight Championship Match- Taker Is The New Champion
HBK VS Flair- HBK (Flair Retires)
Chavo VS ????- Kane wins battler Royal. Chavo turns around and kane is there. Chavo tries to punch but Kane chokeslams and pins. Basically a 5 second match. Kane = New ECW Champion

Also, Shadow Of A Man was right. Matt Hardy did come back, interfered while MVP was on the top of the ladder. And Twist Of Fated him off the top. Nice.

Im In the UK and i stayed up till 4am to watch it live. It was great, alot better than last years (which i also watched live).

[Bax x360a]

Who else is tired of seeing undertaker win? I thought Edge had a big chance but it is getting old seeing Undertaker win every wrestlemania he is in and it needs to stop! I think he needs to be in a handicap match elimination against 5 other people no disqualification tornado. If he would win that [match is never gonna happen] I would stop watching T.V. forever :eek: I thought the same thing for John Cena because he got played out to quick, winning every title match he was in till they realized it was getting boring for entertainment. (Just my Thoughts)
Undertaker = Legend, no way were they going to end his streak... And your so true about Cena, looks like they burnt him out too quickly...

[darkXhawk]

I liked how Cena tryed to buy the fans by coming out with the band and wearing school colors and yet he still got booed.

[sam49]

Damn. I really did flop in my prediction. But coming up is a very detailed review:#

Below 10%- GRADE: F- You might as well sleep than watch

11-30%- GRADE: E- Well this isnt much different than F

31-49%- GRADE: D- WTF ARE YOU DOING WATCHING THIS, GET OUT IN THE REAL WORLD.

50-69%- GRADE: C- Average, nothing special really

70-82%- GRADE: B- Some special things about this PPV, but could be improved.

83-89%- GRADE: A- Watch it, watch it right now!

90%+ - GRADE: A*- WOOOOOO

Finlay vs JBL (Belfast brawl): This was a decent opener to get the crowd going. This was nothing very special but certainly was entertaining. 7/10

MITB: Money in the Bank was exciting this year. There were some good spots, but Shelton Benjamin didnt really shine as much. Definately not the best MITb, but exiting. 8/10

Brand Supremecy match Batista vs Umaga: Perobably the let-down of the night. Was not what it could've been, but decent match. 6.5/10

ECW championship: Chavo vs Kane: Pointless match really, but very funny. Wont ruin it for you. 3/10 for serouisness but 10/10 for entertainment.

HBK vs Ric Flair: I didnt really expect much from this match, but it really surprised me. It told a good story and a good match. This isnt a high-paced match but a good technical match. 8/10

Bunnymania: I wont rate this at ALL.

Triple Threat for WWE championship. Was a decent match, but it could have been million times better. I think that HHH let this match down, was really surprised with the winner. 7/10

Floyd 'Money' Mayweather vs The Big Show: I really didnt expect much from this match, but this surprised me. Was a decent match for what it was. 6/10

WHC Edge vs Undertaker: A excellent match. Had all types of action in it. Fast, slow and technical and it was all exciting. Just tells us why Edge and Undertaker are great wrestlers. 9/10 (Match Of The Night)

Overall: 68%. GRADE: C. Really I think this is the truth. This PPV was good, but not great. I think WM 23 was better.

[Nick G 42390]

Michaels and Flair was the match of the night, not doubt. The Taker and Edge match was good but the Flair match was the highlight of Wrestlemania and the best match.

Also, Money Mayweather and Big Show was probably the 3rd best match of the night behind Taker/Edge and Flair/Michaels.

[Bishop24]

THANK YOU RIC FLAIR!!!!!!!! AND JOHN CENA IS THE BEST WRESTLER RIGHT NOW...THE ROCK IS THE BEST WRESTLER EVER, BESIDEs RIC FLAIR....I watch every episode of RAW, ECW, and Smackdown....and I order every pay-per-view...I love the WWE....

[sam49]

Michaels and Flair was the match of the night, not doubt. The Taker and Edge match was good but the Flair match was the highlight of Wrestlemania and the best match.

Also, Money Mayweather and Big Show was probably the 3rd best match of the night behind Taker/Edge and Flair/Michaels.
The Flair match was good as well, but it was more of a story than a match which in my opinion lets it down a bit.

[Bax x360a]

THANK YOU RIC FLAIR!!!!!!!! AND JOHN CENA IS THE BEST WRESTLER RIGHT NOW...THE ROCK IS THE BEST WRESTLER EVER, BESIDED RIC FLAIR....I watch every episode of RAW, ECW, and Smackdown....and I order every pay-per-view...I love the WWE....
The Rock was an awesome wrestler, but sorry, Hulk Hogan is the best ever ;) Flair is a legend though, I can produly say I saw him in action Live before he retired :)

[Bishop24]

yea i've seen him too....and yea Hulk Hogan was not really a wrestler to me....all he had was the leg drop and that finger wave....but he was VERY entertaining in the ring

[MrMondayNite341]

I still think they should have had somebody else wrestle Flair. either Sting or Ricky Steamboat. I know the Dragon is old, but think he could have pulled a match off.

Still would have liked to see Sting wrestle Flair one last time.

[Bax x360a]

yea i've seen him too....and yea Hulk Hogan was not really a wrestler to me....all he had was the leg drop and that finger wave....but he was VERY entertaining in the ring
The finger wave = best move ever :p If you can even call it a move. The big boot followed by the leg drop was genius. I geuss your right though, the Hulkster was definitely more of an entertainer than a pure wrestler. That title would go to someone like Benoit or Kurt Angle.

[Shinsetsu]

I personally HATED the end of the MitB match. Give it to CM punk so he could waste it on the ECW belt... eh. Seriously, he beat Jerico by technicality not by a finisher, submission, Jericho being out of the ring. He just pushed him right so his ankle would get caught.... horrible ending. =/

[Bax x360a]

I personally HATED the end of the MitB match. Give it to CM punk so he could waste it on the ECW belt... eh. Seriously, he beat Jerico by technicality not by a finisher, submission, Jericho being out of the ring. He just pushed him right so his ankle would get caught.... horrible ending. =/
I'm geussing now is the period when CM Punk enters the WWE and quits ECW...

[Nick G 42390]

I personally HATED the end of the MitB match. Give it to CM punk so he could waste it on the ECW belt... eh. Seriously, he beat Jerico by technicality not by a finisher, submission, Jericho being out of the ring. He just pushed him right so his ankle would get caught.... horrible ending. =/

CM Punk is more than likely being moved over to RAW so that second sentence was probably a waste to type....

[Himself0890]

Used to love wrestling. In fact, I owned a DX site last year (DX-Unlimited.com) if you guys heard about it. It isn't up anymore anymore though.


Anyways, I peek in every now and again and watching Ric Flair leave gave me chills. And w00t for taker winning the title and continuing his streak :D

[Bishop24]

I'm geussing now is the period when CM Punk enters the WWE and quits ECW...


ECW is owned by the WWE, so he is already in the WWE...haha

[Jonesy2008]

Sam mate, it is clear that you are not as serious WWE fan as many of us. Flair/HBK was clearly one of the best matches and not a letdown. Also, MITB was an excellent match, beaten only by last years. Edge/Taker was brilliant but the triple threat was pathetic.

[sam49]

When did I say that HBK vs Flair was a letdown? I said I didnt expect much from it, but it went over my expectations.

[Bax x360a]

ECW is owned by the WWE, so he is already in the WWE...haha
Yeah, hilarious... Douche.
Sam mate, it is clear that you are not as serious WWE fan as many of us. Flair/HBK was clearly one of the best matches and not a letdown. Also, MITB was an excellent match, beaten only by last years. Edge/Taker was brilliant but the triple threat was pathetic.
The MITB was friggin awesome. Shelton Benjamin falling from the ladder onto the ladder onto and splitting it in half made me say out loud HOLY SHIT. There was some amazing moments in that match, awesome stuff.

By the way, was it only me who shed a tear when Flair retired? :(

[sam49]

Well I didnt shed a tear at all for Flair, but I felt very sad. EDIT: What WM do you think was better? WM24, WM23 or WM22. For some reason for me it is WM 22 even though most people will disagree.

[Bax x360a]

Well I didnt shed a tear at all for Flair, but I felt very sad. EDIT: What WM do you think was better? WM24, WM23 or WM22. For some reason for me it is WM 22 even though most people will disagree.
Can't even remember WM 22 or 23. WM 17, now that was the best ever Wrestlemania; at least in recent times anyway.

[sam49]

Yeah WM 17 was the best ever overall.

[Bax x360a]

Nah not ever, Wrestlemania 3 where Hogan slammed Andre the Giant infront of 90,000 people was AMAZING. The good times when Hulkamania was running wild, ahhh.

[UNDERWALLY]

It's difficult to say which wm is my favorite, I too loved WM 17, SCSA vs Rock OMG was amazing!, the hardocre triple threat, the TLC II. everything, but WM 24. 22. 23 and 19 are great too.

[silentkiller]

WMXX was also a great one!

[CoachCO62]

Just becuase I was a kid at the time wrestlemania VIII when Hogan was fighting evil Sid Justice and Papa Shango came out to join Justice, All of a sudden the Warrior's music hit and he came running down, that to me was the greatest moment in wrestlemania history which is Why VIII to me is the best wrestlemania of all time, followed by VI, when Hogan lost finally, then IX and X. Much better in the early 90's then recently, although XXIV was really good a solid card overall. Even with the two most garbage guys that arent named Kennedy and Jericho, in Finlay and BRadshaw having a good match.

[sam49]

WMXX was also a great one!
WMXX was great as well. It had 2 great main events.

[Bax x360a]

Just becuase I was a kid at the time wrestlemania VIII when Hogan was fighting evil Sid Justice and Papa Shango came out to join Justice, All of a sudden the Warrior's music hit and he came running down, that to me was the greatest moment in wrestlemania history which is Why VIII to me is the best wrestlemania of all time, followed by VI, when Hogan lost finally, then IX and X. Much better in the early 90's then recently, although XXIV was really good a solid card overall. Even with the two most garbage guys that arent named Kennedy and Jericho, in Finlay and BRadshaw having a good match.
I can't remember that moment your on about, sounds awesome though. The Ultimate Warrior was an absolute legend, I remember Papa Shango aswell :eek: Wonder what that guy's up to these days...

[CoachCO62]

I can't remember that moment your on about, sounds awesome though. The Ultimate Warrior was an absolute legend, I remember Papa Shango aswell :eek: Wonder what that guy's up to these days...

Well the thing about it was that the Warrior was gone for a while, it was before the internet ruined all the surprises in wrestling, I guess it was one of the times Warrior and McMahon got in a fight. But rent the DVD or something and watch the Hogan match to me it was just great, that was also the Wrestlemania that Flair fought with the Nacho Man. I think Nacho won the title but I am probably wrong on that one.

[Shinsetsu]

Warrior was great to watch as a kid... till you got the back story, and watched his matches and noticed he wrestled REALLY stiff, and matches usually wouldn't last more than 10 minutes tops.

[CoachCO62]

Warrior was great to watch as a kid... till you got the back story, and watched his matches and noticed he wrestled REALLY stiff, and matches usually wouldn't last more than 10 minutes tops.

Wrestling in the 80's and 90's was better than anythign that is out now. Better personalities, better wrestlers. Anyone who says John Cena is the greatest wrestler around now must be about 6 years old or a fan for less then a year. I give Cena credit he is strong as all hell, and from what he says drug free which is even more impressive, I give these guys the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Anyway Cena is entertaining but he is nothign special, he is Jimmy Powers with a better personality.

the biggest problem in wrestling today is every match is a PPV match, why not go back to when guys like Barry Horowitz and the Brooklyn brawler wrestled. You knew they were gonna lose but at least it was a clean loss not like now where Triple H cant get pinned because he wont look as strong, or Edge can only win with interference, its lame as can be. It all started when Raw let the 1-2-3 kid beat razor Ramon, ever since then it went down a bad path where every guy is a superstar.

[Crusher524]

Best Wrestler ever isn't Flair, Hogan, or The Rock, it is The Excellence of Execution, the Best There Is, The Best There Was, and The Best There Ever Will Be: Bret "The Hitman" Hart!

[CoachCO62]

Best Wrestler ever isn't Flair, Hogan, or The Rock, it is The Excellence of Execution, the Best There Is, The Best There Was, and The Best There Ever Will Be: Bret "The Hitman" Hart!

Yea Bret Hart and his 5 moves of Doom as I beileve they were called, the best wrestler on the PLanet is either Lesnar or Angle.

[sam49]

OMG how crap was the RAW last night? I slept through the first hour.

[Chpainkiller]

what a boring Raw:uzi:.
Good:- Santino and Carlito won

Bad:
- Cena
- Batista vs HBK feud
- 2 diva Matches
- Main event
- Umaga squash match

[Crusher524]

That may have been one of, it not the worst episode of RAW ever. I am sorta glad that they are getting back to the Tag Team wrestling, now they should just do a unification of the Tag Titles and let them go across brands.

[Bax x360a]

Well the thing about it was that the Warrior was gone for a while, it was before the internet ruined all the surprises in wrestling, I guess it was one of the times Warrior and McMahon got in a fight. But rent the DVD or something and watch the Hogan match to me it was just great, that was also the Wrestlemania that Flair fought with the Nacho Man. I think Nacho won the title but I am probably wrong on that one.
Nacho man lmao, it's Macho Man Randy Savage, not Nacho :p The guy was a legend though. Macho man and Hogan as the Mega Power's owned. Best tag team ever.
Best Wrestler ever isn't Flair, Hogan, or The Rock, it is The Excellence of Execution, the Best There Is, The Best There Was, and The Best There Ever Will Be: Bret "The Hitman" Hart!
The excellence of execution, the guy was awesome. The Sharpshooter was an awesome finisher aswell.
what a boring Raw:uzi:.
Good:- Santino and Carlito won

Bad:
- Cena
- Batista vs HBK feud
- 2 diva Matches
- Main event
- Umaga squash match
How can a Raw with 2 Diva matches be boring :eek:

[sam49]

what a boring Raw:uzi:.
Good:- Santino and Carlito won

Bad:
- Cena
- Batista vs HBK feud
- 2 diva Matches
- Main event
- Umaga squash match
I actually am finding the Batista/HBK feud very good.

[CoachCO62]

Nacho man lmao, it's Macho Man Randy Savage, not Nacho :p The guy was a legend though. Macho man and Hogan as the Mega Power's owned. Best tag team ever.



Of course its Nacho dont you remember the skit when Nacho and the yuckster first went to WCW along with Scheme Gene to work for Billioinaire Ted. And the WWF had A geriatric match before Wrestlemania 12 that I believe ended with both guys having a Heart attack in the Middle of the ring.

[UNDERWALLY]

Hey, What fo you think of Backlash matches??
The only one I'm really looking forward to is the F4way match, and I'm obviously pulling for Randy :D

[sam49]

TBH none of the backlash matches are looking good. Even the fatal 4 way aint gonna be that good.

[Bax x360a]

What matches are at Backlash then? I'm too lazy to look it up. I hope Orton loses the title, guys a douche.

[CoachCO62]

Khali and the Big Show is gonna be funny, otherwise the matches are really stupid looking, Fatal four ways are such a waste of time unless they are elimination fatal four ways then they are entertaining.

[UNDERWALLY]

What matches are at Backlash then? I'm too lazy to look it up. I hope Orton loses the title, guys a douche.

F4W match for the WWE championship: Randy:woop: vs CENA:( vs Triple H vs JBL
BigShow vs Khali
ECW Champ. Kane vs Chavo
WHChampionship Take vs Edge
Batista vs HBK with Jericho as special guest referee
US title MVP vs Matt Hardy
I expect Mickie James vs Beth Phoenix for the Women's title to be added since Mickie won it last Monday


UPDATE: O!! Great I just saw this, The King of the ring tournament returns again :woop::woop:

[Bax x360a]

F4W match for the WWE championship: Randy:woop: vs CENA:( vs Triple H vs JBL
BigShow vs Khali
ECW Champ. Kane vs Chavo
WHChampionship Take vs Edge
Batista vs HBK with Jericho as special guest referee
US title MVP vs Matt Hardy
I expect Mickie James vs Beth Phoenix for the Women's title to be added since Mickie won it last Monday


UPDATE: O!! Great I just saw this, The King of the ring tournament returns again :woop::woop:
Cheers mate. I'm surprised it took them this long to put Big Show vs Khali, now that will be epic. Taker vs Edge AGAIN so soon, hopefully they don't keep that rivalry up too long. Why the hell is JBL back in contention for the title anyway? The guys such a hasbeen.

[sam49]

The only reason JBL is in the match is because without him it'll be the same as WM 24 all over again.

[UNDERWALLY]

Yeah, sam's rigt, they just add JBl casue without him it would be like wm24 again
So who would you like to see fight for the WWE champioonship next? It0s probably going to be the King of the Ring winner, I don't know who's gonna be in it, if Morrison or Y2J are on it, I'll pull for them

[Impact Andy]

Maybe HHH will win KOTR if he's in it. It would make sense because of his King of Kings gimmick anyway.

[Shadow Of A Man]

The competitors are:

Big Show (SmackDown),
CM Punk (ECW),
Umaga (RAW),
Batista (SmackDown),
Shawn Michaels (RAW),
MVP (SmackDown),
Chris Jericho (RAW),
Triple H (RAW), &
Shawn Michaels (RAW)

it could possibly be that Batista and HBK are the last ones left and have a Backlash preview thing

[UNDERWALLY]

Thanks for the list :p I hope Jericho wins it! bit I highly doubt it, so I'll go with MVP

[CantSeeMeFools]

The competitors are:

Big Show (SmackDown),
CM Punk (ECW),
Umaga (RAW),
Batista (SmackDown),
Shawn Michaels (RAW),
MVP (SmackDown),
Chris Jericho (RAW),
Triple H (RAW), &
Shawn Michaels (RAW)

it could possibly be that Batista and HBK are the last ones left and have a Backlash preview thing



From what I am hearing and what I think, C.M. Punk will take this win. He will fight fair until the finals...where he will cheat and turn heel.

[duckydan]

King of the ring was a load of trash. I was all excited they were bringing it back and they treated it like a joke. Major disappointment in my eyes and not just because of who won but because of how it was handled. The first few fights were legit then Finley vs Khali (the worst fighter in the WWE) began the decline.

[Around The Bend]

TNA rules all!!

[kiwi18]

TNA rules all!!

EPIC FAIL... UFC rapes ALL OTHERS

[sam49]

Well since Backlash is like 48 hours close I'll post my prediction:

WWE Championship - Fatal Four Way Match
- Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H vs. John Cena vs. JBL.
Winner: I have to go with Randy Orton. If it was a triple threat without Cena then I could see HHH winning, but this is gonna be RKO's night.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- The Undertaker (c) vs. Edge.
Winner: You'd be mad to think Edge is gonna win. 'nuff said.

ECW Championship
- Kane (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero.
Winner: Kane. I cant see Chavo winning here no matter what.

Special Guest Referee: Chris Jericho
- Shawn Michaels vs. Batista.
Winner: This has been a good rivalry so far, but I can see Batista teaching HBK a lesson here (Even though I dont want him to win)

- Big Show vs. The Great Khali.
Winner: Big Show. The Great Kahli has got some sort on injury apparently and if he wins this rivalry will prolong even ore.

WWE United States Championship Match
- MVP (c) vs. Matt Hardy.
Winner: Hardy's gonna win here, definately.

[CoachCO62]

Well since Backlash is like 48 hours close I'll post my prediction:

WWE Championship - Fatal Four Way Match
- Randy Orton (c) vs. Triple H vs. John Cena vs. JBL.
Winner: I have to go with Randy Orton. If it was a triple threat without Cena then I could see HHH winning, but this is gonna be RKO's night.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- The Undertaker (c) vs. Edge.
Winner: You'd be mad to think Edge is gonna win. 'nuff said.

ECW Championship
- Kane (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero.
Winner: Kane. I cant see Chavo winning here no matter what.

Special Guest Referee: Chris Jericho
- Shawn Michaels vs. Batista.
Winner: This has been a good rivalry so far, but I can see Batista teaching HBK a lesson here (Even though I dont want him to win)

- Big Show vs. The Great Khali.
Winner: Big Show. The Great Kahli has got some sort on injury apparently and if h